Battle of the Mowers!! Ventrac goes up against The John Deere With Woods Mower!
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- Ventrac Brush Hog v/s John Deere Farm Tractor with Woods Mower! You Decide!! Today we'll put these two work horses against each other and show you the results of the test. Each mower cuts differently...each has it's own place on the farm....I hope you enjoy the comparison!
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Why grow grass if your not using it or selling it?
Please take the time to read this....because this question get's asked alot:
This is the story of building pastures on the farm.....
Imagine you just cleared 50 acres of forest....raked off 90% of the top soil....planted various varieties of grass..and most certainly every weed in the county is gonna sprout....now when you planted that grass you put down fertilizer and lime.....because there is no "organic fertilizer" or manure option that's available here for me...that's at all cost feasible....I spread $3500 worth of grass seed, $4000 worth of fertilizer and lime....and the weather conditions are right for the grass to grow.
Follow me here....... There is still no top soil..nothing but dirt to retain moisture...no worms...no microbes...nothing....just dirt. So....mow it for the next season....the grass clippings feed the land...building some top soil....seek out organic and sustainable methods of fertilizing......still nothing that's cost feasible......spend another $5000 on lime and fertilizer to correct the Ph of the soil (4.2) and mow it down for hay! Bale up 120 bales of hay and sell them at $25 each 120X25= $3000
Getting me here....so far we've lost $10,500!! By year 2.....so we robbed the land...we took hay from it.....we stole top soil building material....so what do we do the next year....another $5000 of lime and fertilizer.....by this time we've got a great stand of grass...and broad leaf weeds....because we've stolen from the land....and put back garbage to watch it get green and grow...the weeds if left unchecked and uncut will seed out and overcome the expensive grass that I've planted.
So what do we do?? REALITY CHECK !!!! THROWING MONEY AT A LOOSER....EVERYTIME!!
That's why this year we are gonna mow it 4 times...keep the grass in the vigorous growth stage...before it "bolts" (sends out seed heads) We'll mow down the undesirable weeds before they seed out...cutting the weed population....feeding the land, building top soil, saving money and doing the right thing this year and next year. We will build fences this spring......start grazing the land and take it back the natural way......the way that takes less money and more time. We are feeding our pastures "green manure"....grass clippings......it's what's best for the land.....
The general system of agriculture in this country is plant....pound it with fertilizer....sell the commodity....plant again.....fertilize and sell.......this viscous cycle is what we want to get away from on our farm.....for the future of the land we will mow it to the ground this year. Hope this helps all of you understand a little better
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer, Why would you lose 90% of the topsoil from clearing the forest ? Something wasn't done right. Sorry.
august forest soils are generally much less fertile than grasslands or pasture.
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer *vicious circle, Josh... not viscous cycle.
Stoney Ridge Farmer thanks
Really enjoyed this one my friend! I enjoy mowing as much as anyone, and having a good friend helping is even better. Best channel on TH-cam!!
You should get a 12’ batwing
Happy Memorial day thanks for your service and all that has served this country
Great video Josh! You never cease to amaze me!
Love the video showing more of the ventrac I'm thinking of buying one
Josh, I have a couple of tractors also, love them they are hard working machines wouldn't trade them for anything! But I've been licking on a Ventrac for several years just haven't pulled the trigger on one yet! Thanks to people like you giving honest reviews, I'm pretty sure if they have issues we will all know about it! Thanks buddy, work that thing!!! Lol take care!
Hi..... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Thats why i like my little mahindra 1526 for mowing our small pasture. Easy on the wallet lol. Thanks for sharing.
Dude awesome stuff!!
You mentioned the foot hills of the blue ridge mountains. I’m well aware this mountain range spans a few states. When I lived in Virginia I was a few miles away from both the Appalachian trail and the blue ridge parkway. I loved that area. You are a lucky man to be doing what you love on such a beautiful area.
Great job enjoyed that!!!
Great video keep making that farm awesome!
Hey Josh. Glad to see you looking like the Stoney Ridge Farmer again. I love that look.
Why not use your haybine and set it to lay flat and not a row , It is wider and can cut a lot faster
Good comparison video. Enjoyed it Josh. The editing was spot on...well except for the crash. Lol.Those drone shots were awesome
lol...I thought the crash was the best part!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer :) it was pretty cool !
I remember when you had around 27k subs and your channel has grown and got better and more informational ever since.
When you turn the JD at the end of the row you should raise the mower deck. Less stress on your mower connections.
We have been waiting for this video of the two mowers side by side test. I like the Vintrak better for a more finished look to the feild.
Very cool comparison. Now all you need is a big bat-wing mower for that John Deer and cut that field in 1/3 the time. Grass sure is looking good! I've just recently started doing something similar on my property. I've only got ~4.2 acres or so. I make do with a 5" hog for clearing and a 72" Scag for the shorter stuff that's been previously cleared. No plans to hay the land or anything but I can sure appreciate the larger mower over the little 48" Cub cadet we use for the front "yard" portion of the land.
Both cutters did a nice job for their intended purposes. The Woods mower is in the hush hog family where the Ventrac mower is more of a combination design mower. Woods makes a finish mower meant to give a better, final cut. As for as turning the John Deere like all tractors doesn't have the turning ratio. Both are fine pieces of equipment and I'm glad you have shown us the capability of the Ventrac. Thanks Josh and Jason.
Love the channel keep up the good work
Keep on keeping on another good one
Jason is such a big help....what are old friends for.....
For big fields we use a 15 foot brush hog not sure if you need one that big but it saves. A Lot of time but we all so have hay morrow that does 9 foot but leaves a nice feld but you need bale it after
Your shirt is awesome!
Nice comparison
Great video Guys
Thanks for the video homeboy very cool brother thanks for the info
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love your videos brother keep them coming 5 thumbs up
Great video Josh, the Ventrac is pretty awesome, it's my pick. Happy Memorial Day Josh, thank you for your service! :)
The Ventrac definitely mowed better and time to turn around was much quicker which will shorten the mowing time. Enjoyed the comparison video.
Awesome what you do it’s great!! and the fact there’s a machine like this and many more that what ever you condition is the attitude triumphs it. great to see that doesn’t hold ya back
From the great white north
As I see some of the comments, some of these people have never used a ventrac. I grew up on a farm and have used the tractors. I also own a ventrac with a mower and snow blower attachments. The JD is great but notice that the land is fairly flat. The ventrac will go as fast as you want it to go and will also go in places where a bat wing can not go. That ventrac is 32.5 horse and can go up to a 30 degree slope with those duals on it. It is also all wheel drive. I do 10 acres with the mower plus a 60 inch pull behind at 6mph on flat and hill. Keep up the entertaining videos!!
Here in Wisconsin, yes a farmer could put some of their land in CRP and it could not be used for 10-15 years. We could simply not do anything with it for a year (fallow), but then we would have to at least bushhog it once or twice a year to keep down any weeds, especially noxious weeds.
Enjoyed this video. I’ve looked into a ventrac for me personally I can’t justify the cost. Like you I own a John Deere and another tractor similar to your Massey. For me I can justify a 14 foot batwing mower over a ventrac. Only reason being is they are a bit cheaper and will speed up the mowing process. That’s just me personally though. Ventrac’s are one tough machine and if I ever find a good used one for the right price I’d be interested.
Yep...I'm headed out to mow with the Ventrac right now....as for the batwing v/s ventrac.....man...the ventrac is so much more capable than a batwing...we are getting a batwing from my dad...it's a TURD!! But we'll work on a restoration of it together on the channel!
Stoney Ridge Farmer awesome look forward to it. Can’t beat a batwing in a open field though just due to the size. Now hillside and thick stuff I’d love to try the ventrac on that. That’s one of those if your able to have both that’s obviously the choice. Have fun mowing today man. I’m stuck at work might get a field mowed after work though.
Still love the Ventrac. I did a lot of research, and you can even get multiple decks for like a golf course to cut your mowing time even less and less. Now if they can figure how to make it drive by remote like a drone (without running into another tractor Josh...LOL). Thanks for another great video. Hipe you and your family have a great Memorial day. WHOOOOO XD
Have you ever looked into a batwing mower to make you're farm more efficient?
I can see the vientrac has some pro's but for acreage above 5 10 of open acres especially pasture land to mow I'm going to mow with something bigger and not spend all day or two days doing it I got other things to do
Good video y'all have a good day and stay safe 👍
Nice video!!!
Wow if I had a field like yours I would make hay but I have a rough stoney small tree covered pasture that I would like to trim so thanks for showing me this . Think I'll leave the John Deere in the shed and see if I can get one of those little rigs , nice video
I'm a huge John deere fan but I'm impressed with the ventrac. I wish I had a dealer closer than almost a 3 hour drive lol. I'm going to look into ventrac more. Have a great memorial day. Be safe.
Hey Josh, have you looked into a 12ft batwing. I just purchased a used 2017 Woods BW12. I only requires 35 PTO HP with a 750 lbs tongue weight. Only requires one SCV. Man, it gets it done!
Have you thought about getting a finish mower from Wood's?
In Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas they're called "brush hogs".
Not another drone biting the dust lol. Woo
lol Cost of doing videos I guess lol
Want to see the Ventrax on the hay rake, round baler, front end loader, pulling trees etc.... Not trying to be negative but there are a lot of things the tractor does the Ventrax is not heavy enough for. Thanks
Ventrac has a wide variety of attachments and can handle 30° slopes. That ventrac can get to places no other Tractor or skid loader can go.
Batwing....
Love that Ventrac and what would that one you have cost with the brush cutter? Thanks good video
What was the instrumental music playing during the grass cutting competition? Great stuff!
There is a big difference between bush-hogging & making hay. You will always notice either a side-pull mower (or m/c) or a windrower cutting the hay so no tires actually run it down. In bush-hogging, you just want to get the majority of it chopped up or ran down. This is a comment to others and not you SRF. Take care and keep up the great videos!
Good stuff! I demoed the Steiner 450, but haven't had the chance to demo the Ventrac 4500. Hopefully I'll be able to check it out soon! Do you have any other attachments for the Ventrac that you've been using on the farm?
What Ventract and deck?think it’s a 4500p but could be a Y, any hills for the ventract? Property is hill so lean skid steer
What kind of drone do you use? Love the drone footage!
Very nice comparison. Sorry about your drone- I am just glad it didn't fly a few feet higher and hit you!
I LOVE THE DRONE VIDEO
when are you planning to build some fences?
Are you still using the Ventrac for mowing? Are you using just the tough cut or are you using a finish mower as well? Thanks!
I do have a question on the ventrac mower .
With the mower in the front doesn't the driver catch all the dust and debris ?
Hey did I miss the video on the hand you guys salted up? Love the content
Josh that was a fair comparison. But the tractor could pull a bat wing cutter that would cut 3 times the with. But for a better cut the ventrac is the winner.
does your ventrac have a gasoline engine or the kubota D902 diesel? i just bought a 2007 kubota BX2350 which has the D902. im very impressed both the power and fuel efficiency of that engine. im sure the durability is going to be good too. the tractor only has 399 hours on it.
Love the lil ventrac it does everything you want it to but question not asking about what you pay for it but just wondering what the payments on a one year lease is and how ya go about buying it after that lease I up does the one year come off of it and payments stay the same or go lower just wondering what payment is on the ventrac is a month and what it goes for whith the attachments you have for it and what comes whith it for basic attachments..sorry about all the questions but I like it and might check one out for my self
If I was a guessing man. I bet you done created a monster with your friend Jason. He probably going to be showing up a bunch more to work with that ventrac. Working on the land, among such beauty, can be therapeutic for the mind and body for anyone
I want that shirt!
Hey Josh 😜 Really enjoying your content lately. Wondering why you don't get a few cows or something to graze the land. Or take it up for hay. Have a good day.
When you hay the only thing you are doing is removing nutrients from the soil, and when that is done year after year after year, your pastures degrade significantly. By chopping and dropping you are putting those nutrients back into your pasture...still not as good as having livestock graze it where you get manure and urine added back, but not nearly as bad as haying.
takes a lot of nitrogen to rot that hay but very little to grow it green comparatively speaking...we grow some clover in with our other grasses to help feed it, every once in a while we soil test and throw some fertilize on it when we need it but it has been a few yrs since a weak test...lime is important but where Josh is there may be a lot since there is quite a bit of white rock in the ground there...Like this video and conversation of viewpoints,Thanks, Kev
@@kevinpilkington6527 true some nitrogen is used, but there is much more contained in the grass itself ( a regular lawn is about 4% N). It's always better, long-term, for the pasture to chop and drop vs haying. One process gives back, the other just keeps taking away.
We are new property owners (17 acres with about 6-7 acres of rolling terrain which will need to be bush hogged). Apart for the cost, I am impressed with what I've seen with the Ventrac product line. One concern is the availability of attachments to rent v buy. I cannot justify buying attachments that I would infrequently use, and I'm having no luck finding places in my area (Athens, GA) that will rent Ventrac attachments.
Have others had a similar issue / concern? Thanks.
Hire a neighbor to do the occasional stuff with his equipment. Spend your money on animals...
That's awesome I actually know what cruising is. But I gotta say, Ashe county had Wilkes cruising beat hands down!!
The ventrax clearly does a better job at less cost than the big tractor! If it has the longevity and dependablity of the JD your set. Great comparison Josh!!!!
Well you got me sold on the ventrac. I think it would also be better if you had a lot of rain because the tractor is like you said heavy. The tractor would either get stuck or leave big ruts in the ground were the Ventrac is small and the weight is more spread out on 8 wheels. Now I just got to talk dad into buying one. I will make him watch this video.
very nice field as others have said should be growing and bailing round bail hay
No market for hay in that area.
Jason and I have something in common, I'm a left leg amputee too. Above knee.
I was 31 though.
thats why my kubota dealer has 24hour emergency at the dealer if theres was a fire or accident with the machines he can be contacted and be at sene to help out
it sucks when lose legs from machinery or accidents wich my gf sees when shes at her work at the medical hospital clinic over in texas wich shes gonna be happy moving here to pei canada wich her and i are thinking of getting engauged and married wich im so glad having her even she is deaf shes smart medical nurse :)
@@michaelmactavish1728 mine was a work related accident.
@@maddmaxx6730 yeah that kinda sucks at losing a leg or arm is better then being killed be reather to be alive wich is the main important thing
at least im kinda lucky having a beautiful girl soon graduating becoming a full nurse wich she soon be graduating wich im proud what she does to help people and patiants out even shes deaf shes the best girl on the job wich shesgraduating pretty soon over in texas at medical school with my help i paid for all her graduating fees for her graduating gowan,and getting her hair done and everything woooooo :)
I love that Ventrac, to much money for me though.
Hey Jason just let him know it's all in a man power
Cool to see that you still have a Buddy from School that you still hang out with !! Me i would like the deer, Better if you had a Bat Wing on the back of her, Plus when its August that shade top on the deer will be nice to have !! I don't know Sir they both have their Pros & Cons... I would have to break them both down to make the right Decision.. The deer with a bat would be my choice for out in the field. On the Ventrac would use on Brush/ Hedge Row's .. Then i would use a z535 m Deer or something like that for around the Crib.. Thank you sir foe All Of Your Videos !! LOVE THEM !! Be Safe with Family this Hollyday Weekend !!
Takes alot of tractor to push a batwing my friend....
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer Well when shes ready to be traded in think about it then after a couple more years of cutting that field.. We did the same at first just like you did. Start off with a 6...And then later down the road we went with the Bat.. Saving so much time & money.. Sure you can Agree with me that there's not enough time in the day living on a Farm ... I Thank you Sir for all of the Videos that you drop for all of us
I've wanted a ventrac for a while, but a bush hog and a farm tractor still have its place. I mow some very rough terrain with ruts and ledge outcroppings and I don't think the ventrac would handle it well.
Josh can you post a video on how to attach the ammo can to the loader?
Take off the old tool box....sit ammo can in place....mark with a sharpe where holes go....drill and put 2 to 4 bolts with washers and nylon locking nuts.....POW! Ya got it! I'll make another for the ventrac soon and to replace the little tool box on the fender of the John Deere...very simple and fun install my friend
That ventrack kicked butt
We call them " Slashers" here in New Zealand.
Slashers! Awesome!
Try 6 foot sagebrush. Good luck
Who else was shown the Ad with the gimicky PTO hookup where the guy says it usually takes him 40 minutes to connect the PTO and then fumbles with the gimick so much that it took longer than it takes most people to connect a regular PTO shaft?
Crashes happen! Part of flying a drone. Really enjoyed watching Jason out cut you. Love the ventrac and thought it would get you in the turns. What happened to the beard? Glad to see that your buddy has adjusted so well to his disability. Check out "the homeless farmer", no arms. He even drives the semi. Do more videos with your friends. Thumbs up from me.
That's not a good comparison. Cuz them are two different mowers used for two different job.
Ventrac mower is more of a finish mower. The woods is a brush cutter for small saplings and ruff brush.
I would say if you has a finish mower for the deere would have been a better comparison.
Just my thought. Doin a great job. I enjoy watchin yer videos. Have a great day
Hey Josh good video and when I eventually do get my property I'm going to buy me a ventrac from watching your video I just wonder how much they are
Havnt had to deal with a missing leg, but came close. Metal internal with full metal knee. Cant complain, as i can do 80% of everything just different ways. Just cant climb or run.
Overall, i prefer the tractor. Im just ise to it.
The drone footage was epic with the awesome music!. I hope your drone is OK it look like it crashed hard.
Dusted off and ran just fine! Pretty awesome!
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer That is awesome! When it crashed I yelled at the screen NOOO!. LOL.
Boy, those JD tractors aren't cheap. Does the job, though. Fortunate happenstance that Jason, as an amputee, can easily operate the Ventrac as it is - no adaptations needed. Kudos to Jason for carrying on.
HAVE A GREAT MEMORIAL DAY HOLIDAY WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!! Yes, I see your point of view, but both tractors need an over top sun shield of some kind... Cancer from the sun is coming, Ventrac that is needs...Need to leave a little more grass on top for it to grow... 6- inches or so the grass will not have to use all of the roots to produce new shots after being cut
and you are not in a lawn or ballpark but a farm field... not sure which kind grass you plant but some fill in the ground by rhizomes and some by Stolon...What are you going to do if you go 4 to 6 weeks without any or little rain if you cut so close to the ground... you do not have a watering system for the fields but 6-inch grass will survive easier than to the ground cut grass......
The tractor is better because it can take a licking and keeps on ticking. They are better suited for the rough farm land. The ventrac is better for land that's already been made in to hay fields.
Damn that mower looks great. I don’t know the cost yet but I bet it’s an arm and a leg
Is the drone done or did the props take the hit?
I picked it up....dusted it off...and it was good to go!
Remember, the bush hawg is spinnin counterclockwise so the right side is mostly turnin' the same way the grass is layin' while the left side is lifting the grass that is mashed back up to cut it. if you create a circle cut counterclockwise around the field and put the tractor wheel to the outside edge of your uncut line, you will git rid of a lot of the streaks. In other words,section it off and make right hand turns from the center cut out...Yes the Ventrac in most circumstances is a much superior mowing machine, been thinkin bout one here in west tennessee for some of our farm... How do they handle steep levees and the occasional washout? thats perty much my deciding factor! Thanks, Kev
I have not been a subscriber that long but man I'll tell you what,that is sure some beautiful country.
It sure does make for some good videos.
One of the things I really like about your videos they're not full of a bunch of junk and foolishness thank you for bringing them to us.
Ventrac is the real beauty.....real....real work horse.
You was sandbagging the John deere quite a bit. It would been able to go much faster than you were going
Is the ventrac a sponsor deal?
Yes, my 20 year old 25 horse JD is faster than that.
@@TheTomBevis My 62 year old JD 420 is faster.
The Ventrac's top cutting speed... CUTTING speed, not TOP speed, is 5 MPH. So he has to slow the JD down or it wouldn't be close. I tried a Ventrac. They say "only cut in low range." Check it out. Low range top end is ABOUT 5 MPH.
That's a huge area to mow. For what reason do you need this field? Granted it is beautiful. But why bro beans.
I see one advantage of the ventrack it gets a full 6 foot with the mower in front of you. The bush hog on the back has to overlap just a little to cut your tracks out
The ventrac works out to be about 20% faster cutting and much more accurate than the conventional tractor....headed out now!
I’d like to try one of them out on my farm and for my custom bush hogging business in the hills of Kentucky. I bet with rougher tires on there it would be like a mountain goat
My grandpa uses a heavy duty bush hog to cut 4-5 inch grass and for some reason won't get a finish mover(which is better for shorter grass and gives a finer cut). No clue why