Two Shafts With the Same Weight & Flex | Ball Flight Testing
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txg.ca - Testing two shafts from VA composites that are the same weight and flex, but differ greatly in bend profile. See how much feel, timing and ball flight difference can be made even with two shafts that are similar on paper!
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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Crossfield would like this one.
TXG best golf channel online bar none. Top work lads
I played an old shaft in tsi2 11 degree aldila rouge 95msi 60g S 2.8 torque and sold the club ,after many drivers and shafts i saw a vyln 55 four s in the tsi3 driver 8 degree tour head set at 9.5 degrree with it being 1/2 inch short when built. I tried it out and yip i got the whip back without flying mad left! Appreciate the video this video is bang on.🏌👍🏴
Ian, you described my swing exactly so I went right online and ordered the Vylyn. Will let you know how it works out. Keep up the great work!
How did it work out?
So??? Guessing not good 🤔
Phil R What were your results? I’m curious
Only golf channel where I don't skip the intro.
Another great video! I learn so much every time I watch one of your videos. Thanks
Only videos I actually watch on TH-cam... by far the best channel I’ve come across!!! Keep em coming boys!!
You guys just keep pumping out gems. This stuff is fascinating; I have said it before, but: GOLF COLLEGE. Thanks again fellas!
LOL. Hearing Matt say “Chillin like a villain” under his breath, made my day.
Cant tell you how valuable the discussion around feel and profiles are for those of us who aren't near a premium fitter. Bravo gents, thanks for the great content!
Great video love it
Definitely like the graphics 👍
I got the Vylyn headed my way for the Cobra f9 in my bag, been looking for an upgrade shaft to fit my swing now that I'm in the late 60's age wise. This was a fine review of golf tech, thanks guys.
How is this shaft in a 3 wood????
12:51 “that ball flight, you could fall asleep to that...could put a baby to sleep” 😂😂
Like the graphics on the shafts
The UK custom fit market is a sham ie you get fitted to a specific specification and then the clubs are made up and sent to you.
Problem is that they have so much tolerances that when you receive your clubs they do not have the same specifications as those tested.
Off the shelf is even worse. 2 yrs ago I purchased a 64 deg wedge and had it checked for loft and lie - the loft was 68.5
A 68°+ wedge should be called a F Wedge aka Flop Wedge
This would have been a good video to film on gears, to see how the different shafts bend and load during the swing
Great videos guys absolutely love watching your channel 👍⛳
I'm curious about your comment ... "This one doesn't cross the line"(Raijan Black) From what I saw in the video Matt closely centered almost every shot with the (Vylyn Shaft) and produced a very controlled 5-10yd draw. However the Raijan Balck was 10-15mm toed almost every shot producing a Push Draw. What happens when that strike moves more to the center and doesn't benefit from the toe Push effect ? Does it then start on a much straighter line and cross center ?
This would be a good test for someone who swings smooth around 100 - 105mph to show what difference could be.
Great video
Ian, Matt update on the VA Vylyn shaft I purchased after watching your review. I absolutely love the feel and stability, it just feels like it was made for me and what I want a shaft to feel like. I purchased the 55 Gram Stiff and have it in my Cobra f9 head, and it's just as great feeling with my Cobra Fly Z head on it, the ball flight seems higher and rolls out farther for me, and extra seven to ten yards. It's a great great feeling golf shaft , once again, good video on golf tech, thanks.
Great to hear!!
The VA Drago is a winner for me 💪
Matt was definitely "Kapow!" with the Vylyn..liked the graphics....with Ian taking the Riddles out of club fitting.
You guys should try to get your hands on the new HZRDUS smoke green!!!
"he`s hitting it quit well". Dude, he bombed everyone LOL. his tempo is so controlled and smooth, love watching these.
On the topic of feeling a shaft move, don't know if you guys watched The Tiger Woods Project on Golf Channel last week, but he mentioned that his Dad used to cut down the shafts on his clubs when he was growing up so it wasn't until he was tall enough to hit standard length clubs that he even felt a shaft move. He used to just grip it and rip it and the shaft was so stiff he didn't have to worry about timing, but as soon as he got to playing standard length, he had to learn timing.
Hi guys!! Will you be doing a review of the new PXG 0211 irons?
Curious about your thoughts on these new irons from PXG versus the P790, Apex 19, Hot Metal Pro.
I think what makes you love the bucket list fit at TXG comes with the added bonus of verbal wizardry “chalk and cheese” just doesn’t get any better. TXG definitely the cheese. 👍
Lamkin Sonar grips are the best!
can install these shafts in older glue style heads
DespitefulShadow yes
It's amazing watching matty's ability to alter his swing to match two different shafts and produce a very similar outcome. How does he pass the I'm not a robot checks online?
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A question would be whether a player, skilled enough, could simple manipulate the clubhead/face to be the same place at impact, regardless of shaft characteristic/flex? Like a dead stiff vs a whippy soft, might simple mean that the player reacts and therefore delivers the same numbers? Could this be a thing? Thoughts?
Cheers!
Max Caysey A highly skilled player would indeed manipulate the club to create something closely resembling the desired result.
@@ianfrasergolf That was my thought too... I basically assume that's why someone like Mark Crossfield has the same result regardless of shaft. Sure, he was measured in Ping studio where they could measure his lead deflection/ droop etc. and they found that the way he loaded the shaft, shaft made little to no difference for him... I assume his stance on shafts is a mix of both :)
Just watched the stock vs aftermarket shaft video from May15 2018, Matt's swing is COMPLETELY different now!!
Great video, I tried the vylan shaft in my recent fit. It was really good but I got better performance from the Fujikira ventus shaft with the F9.
Thanks Greg
Ian how would this compare to the GD tour AD XC and paired with a lighter head driver (ie Callaway Mavrik)
Matt you made swinging the Vylyn look so easy.
That's gotta be worth some confidence credits off any driving hole out on a real golf course yes?
Ian the fitting 🧙♂️strikes again!
Outstanding video once again guys (chip and a putt for par or putting for 🐦 for Matt on all those 320 yard par 3 drives)
i have f9 driver n wood with smoke shaft which i love, what would be a good similar shaft in the hybrid?
How did the VYLN numbers change between 13:39 and 16:46 ?
Vylyn shaft's graphic looks awesome. I wish there are more of those graphics out on the market.
Watch prices skyrocket even more
Question: At 1:31 you can see the little "S" logo that says "FOR SHAFT" next to it, I've seen this on a lot of "premium" shafts, what does it mean??
so will the draw/fade bias change if the shaft is in someone elses hands or is that just the behavior of the shaft? like if anyone else swung the raijin black would they also tend to hit fades?
Would that Villain shaft be somewhat comparable to the tensei blue? I believe Sergio is or was gaming those.
You guys are awesome!
I have 2 questions that been bothering me and I can't really find a satisfying answer to this
Question 1: When should you change stiffness of a shaft? (like a certain swingspeed, handicap related, just the feeling?)
Question 2: clubs with offset, how should one align a golfclub with offset?
Keep up the good work!
Sounds like the vylin shaft would match up well with my Nippon 120 shafts and one to try in my woods as the profile seems similar to tour ad di. Soft in the handle firm in the tip
A quick question, is the VA Vylyn 75x similar in profile and performance to a Tour AD DI 7x.
Many thanks for your time
Ol Iron Byron was on today.
Great video... Is this vylan profile similar to the ADBB? I'm interested in this sort of profile since I have about 112 hc speed but with a very smooth transition where I feel like I almost pause at the top (I currently play the ADBB 7x)
Love the VA slay in my 3 and 5 woods
I swing it at 117mph but when I last did a fitting they said I load it really well and I am hitting the ball with 3500rpm. what type of shaft would be a good fit for me?
Hayden antonio Garcia If you watch some more TXG vids ~your numbers are similar to matts 3 wood spin ~ drop spin to 2500 and you will get the distance with 30yds of height rainbow flight .
Is it wrong that I can picture the Vylyn shaft in my white F6 5 wood with a small Harley Quinn sticker over the alignment logo?
What other shaft compares to the vylyn?
The Raijin Black sounds similar to the Paderson Kevlar series. Have you ever reviewed Paderson shafts?
Random idea, guys. Has their ever been a test of refinished golf balls vs. new balls? I have some refinished prov1s that I haven't used. Whatever they've been refinished with doesn't seem to contain urethane . . .
How does the Raijin Black you tested here compare to the Tensei Orange, I believe you guys tested the Orange a while back.
You guys were just starting to hint at the idea of feels and how they can affect your attitude toward a swing during a round, etc. This year I'm noticing that when I stick with my basic "smoothie draw" I tend to give myself a ton of looks at birdie (and "smoothie" in more putts as well!). I'll end up -4 versus when I'm being aggressive and end up +6! My coach thinks I might need to move up from stiff shafts but I'm hesitant to because I don't want to lose that ability to just smooth it around the course and stay cool as a cucumber.
i agree with matt that you can feel like you get more for less. i have a kuro kage silver, soft butt, in one driver and when i feel like i hold back a hair its pretty rewarding vs. my other driver which has a BiMatrix Proto in it. i feel like i have to put a real amount of swing effort to get a similar feeling.
I'm curious why you guys went from the Z Star xv to the Prov1x. I thought you loved the Z Star XV.
Z Star XV didn't have as good quality control levels at Pro v1x
How about a Vyln vs Ventus test ?
Ummmmmm, just wondering if a Bandit can be a Vylyn? Love the Pop Art graphics, very Roy Lichtenstein!
Would be very interested in seeing one of your guests fit for the lighter 45 or 53 gram VLYN.
I think matt found his new driver
Love this. So who said picking the right shaft was easy. Do you want the smooth Vylyn or do want bring the tomahawk? Hmmm. Nice way of highlighting the more subtle differences influencing selection.
Put Matt in the VA with the Ping 410 with the Factory adapter set at 0 flat. My guess he can play four rounds aka tour event not get tired and take the miss right out of the golf equation. Just my 2 cents.
Dang when you said it has a good price point then said $250 my jaw dropped. I play a shaft designed by Tom wishon (designer of the sterling single length irons you tested the other week) cost $29 brand new. Best driver shaft I’ve ever played. Swing speed around 123-125 with my 43.5” driver feels just like those old proforce v2 shafts. Haven’t hit a tee shot OB in like 3 years since playing it. Can’t imagine paying $250 for a driver let alone just a shaft. To each his own I guess.
Which Wishon shaft is it?
@@jamesroam773 s2s black 85 gram stiff tip trimmed 1 inch
I’m 47 and grunge was all the rage in college so I’m down with the graphics. I have a smooth transition but only a 93 mph driver swing. Would they make that shaft in a flex that would work for that? Love what you guys do. Always learning new things when I watch. Keep up the good work!
Absolutely, they make both the 55 and 65 gram versions in Regular and Stiff flex so you'll have options
Do you think that the performance of that Lst head makes shaft not as important in the fitting process. Matt is at exceptional speed. Ping tends to fit most average players into one of thier 2 proprietary shafts. It seems easier for average fitters, if they can get the static loft correct the low spin nature of the head makes it easier to get a not perfect but close fit. I personally can count on one hand how many great fitters I've experienced. One of these days I'm getting on a plane to come see you guys! Cheers
launch/spin would be more determined by the head for sure, shafts would just be dialing in feel, timing, etc. to help consistency, strike location
Look at you guys. Sorta, kinda, matching.
I want to put babies to sleep with my ball flight!!!! 😂😂
Put the ego aside. Has to be the Villain. He definitely looks like he's forcing the Black.
So ...two very different shafts.....both perform well......has Mark Crossfield got some compromising photos of you....??
😆 didn't say they performed the same!
@@clubchampionmedia as if!!!!
Wait... we weren't supposed to eat the chalk?
apple and bannana.....chalk and cheese looooooool
Chalk & Cheese
Lol secondary marketing at its finest
Great video similar to what Crossfield says about shaft flex making little difference. Two 65 X stiff shafts totally different profiles and makes minimal difference to back spin which is MCs point when he goes from ladies to x stiff... although it shows the influence a profile can have on shot shape and feel to the player 👍
“ apple and banana ... chalk and cheese” Lol You’re a clown dude