Exactly. My experience of club fittings is basically a shop sales guy letting you try several different clubs and you end up buying the one where we have a sort of vague mutual agreement on which is best. I've never really felt there was any great, in depth swing analysis. My conclusion is that a genuine fitting is a paid service, separate from the purchase of the clubs themselves.
until you realize golf champion fits u to zero stock options in any club (driver/iron set)disregarding any of the companies offerings and tries to put you in the most egregious over the top shaft setup and gives u an estimate nearing $3,000
@@fornuto1288I’ve gone to both TXG and club champions for my past 2 fits and I’ve left with the options that best fit me. Stock works for my irons. I had a stock option for my driver but I like the performance of the upgrade so I went with that. Who did you fit with? My experience was excellent
Butt Soft.... basically describing me after this year of Covid go-nowhere couch sitting... (Aaaaaand I think I better stop there before making any sort of joke on some of the other terms used in this video. 😂 )
Guys, just wanted to say thank you for your videos, I'm a "why does that work like that" kind of person and your videos have given me an understanding of why golf is so hard to get right...😊
Just bought a Ventus red velocore on eBay and found out it was tipped 1”. Had in back of my mind it was ruined and now a different shaft. You guys confirmed I have nothing to worry about. I wish there was a fitter in DFW that knew and approached fitting even half as good as Ian. Feel like I’m better off watching Ian and fitting myself than going to most “fitters” around
Guys in my experience tipping 1.5” reduces spin while maintaining launch angle pretty close. Over a lot data that will become apparent, in my experience. Typically you wouldnt do that if you have low spin shaft or low spin head. Its usually when you need to reduce spin on a forgiving head again in my experience across 50 players i have tried it wirh.
So are we saying that tipping a shaft decreases the spin a little bit? Looks like about ~150rpm from this example. Every little bit matters for some people
@@ianfrasergolf Great thanks Ian. One more thing, in general it does or doesn't change the shaft profile? Was a little confused when you guys mentioned it could completely change the shaft profile. Thanks!
Shaft tipping is a great way to manipulate the ball flight - it seems like the OEMs don't really tip their fairway woods properly and just install as if a driver shaft. Maybe it's not true for every company, but the OEM ones almost never play 'right' compared to when I buy one, tip it per the shaft manufacturer's instructions, and build the club myself. For the longest time, TM had that shallow hosel bore as well, so it was good to pull their install and tip a little bit as well, if you wanted it to play like the same shaft in other clubs. More difficult now with the changeable tips.
@@thekid5345 No, I am saying to follow their instructions. But I don't think all the OEM assembly does follow the full tipping instructions. I have played a lot of the Aerotech SS85X shaft over the years (they are from my hometown) and I can tell you tipping makes a HUGE difference when putting them in different woods. Also making sure your iron shafts are FULLY seated in the hosel, especially PING where they taper the hosel - I can post pictures of my OEM iron pulls where the shafts have been inserted by Ping to random depths, even with their hydraulic seating device. Would be nice to know if the boys at TXG have a similar experience.
@@claytonpetree527 interesting. I was thinking about sending my next iron set to KBS directly and having them install the shafts I want. As for drivers and fairways all of this stuff is pretty overwhelming. Any problems with TItleist and driver shaft installs?
@@thekid5345 Although I loved their product, I have not played a Titleist metalwood since the 983E and K drivers were out. Those had the through bore. Honestly, you would be best served going through a place like TXG to ensure you get EXACTLY what you want. I hope to some day, even though I often build my own stuff. These guys are amazing.
Matty did you like this video on upload? How did I only get the second like maybe Bradley beat me. 😂 I did hear a rumour that if this video gets 10k likes Mikey will make an appearance. Hey Mr Fraser when sorting out your budget going into a fit how does shaft tipping or for that matter fit build shop customization how do budget factor it? You can assume for the purpose of this question that I’m buying the drugs from Mikey’s Dispensary based on a TXG fitters Prescription. 👍 or sorry I guess I was second so 👍👍
Fingers crossed we'll be seeing an SST Pureing video soon as well as that will tie in with what Ian was mentioning about the shaft drooping at impact etc. I'd love to hear what he has to say about it. Great stuff again!
@@kareemchallenger I've had my whole set pured and I noticed the annoying label positions more than any playing benefit. Hate the TM shaft adapters for the same reason. The Callaway & Titleist ones don't spin the shaft. Paying for pure'ing, then having it rotated off that axis because I adjusted the hosel, made me nuts.
@@canyonaro I know what you mean. I also have my entire set pured, I know when I changed the position to test, literally rotate the shaft 180 I spun my 3 wood by 1000 rpm more and it would go much higher. All of the that is with no loft change.
Cheers guys great video. Semi-related, could you guys do a video on frequency matching? And fitting customers to a specific frequency vs. fitting customer to a more general flex. I got fit 8 years ago and was told I was a 6.9. Is this still a good practice for fittings, especially irons?
How would a ventus red tr stiff, tipped 1”, compare to say an untipped X stiff? Thinking the 70 version in a 4 wood. Driver SS ~ 104-106. Generally I create too much spin
Tipped or not, Sim or not.. doesn't seem to matter much to Matt, he pounds everything Ian puts in his hands. I think it shows the importance of a good swing, coaching.
Keeping the shaft the same length by tipping it would probably not change the flex profile as much since it only shifts the “soft” point a “negligible” amount. However tipping it and playing it 1” or more shorter (cut from the butt), I hypothesize, would make a more significant difference than stock .
Excess tipping in a butt soft shaft please! I did this in my speeder NX 50S and its money for my 7W! Strong kick but i also don’t know if that’s due to more head weight of a FW head vs Driver. Anyone… help! Haha
I have a question. I have an in between golf swing on the driver (swing speed). I swing 109mph. I guess thats between a stiff and extra stiff flex.. I have always just stuck with the stiff. Would tipping it .5 inches make a stiff a stiff.5 (a tweener stiffness) or would it not work that way?
The way a properly fitted shaft helps you find the middle of the club face still makes me smile. The ball marks and wear are beginning to accumulate right in the middle. It’s impressive, if I say so myself. I can listen to you guys talk shafts all day long!
What would you say is standard tipping for an adjustable driver? When I read the shaft manufacturer tipping charts, they all say that tipping is not necessary for drivers; however, it’s my impression that the club manufacturers all tip their shafts a certain amount. I play a TSR2 and would like to try some aftermarket shafts, but don’t know what Titleist uses for their standard tipping spec.
Love, love, love this video! I’m getting a Tour AD IZ 7X. I want to play it at 45 inches. How would I know if I should be trimming from the butt or tip section?
You may have done this already but would love to see a video where you compare a low lofted driver with high launch shaft vs high lofted driver and low launch shaft. How close would the flights get, what are the benefits of one over the other? Seems DJ is using high loft and low launch shaft
Great stuff guys! I'd be interested in learning more about whether tipping moves a shaft from an S to X flex in the same product. For example, a tipped Ventus Blue 6-S becomes more like a Ventus Blue 6-X.
Love this video! Was very interesting to see that Adam Scott put the ventus red into his driver and led the field in Houston. Do you know if his ventus was tipped? Cheers!
A blind test to see if you can tell which one is tipped would be a fun test too to see if your preconceptions are making you feel something that's not there or maybe you're reacting to those preconceptions
Hi guys love the video, not a fitter but I eat this stuff up. I’d like to see how tipping something like a GD tour ad iZ, where it’s got a firm butt, medium mid and firm tip. ? Cheers! Oh also I’ve heard TM always tips their shafts. Is this true and do other OEM’s do this?and why?👍🏼🇨🇦⛳️
Would you gents ever do a Hot Melt (Hawt Melz) video.....c'mon, show us some real esoteric voodoo magic!! ...Uh, not to say you haven't already blown our minds with club magic already. (Hot Melt Hot Melt Hot Melt Hot Melt.)
Looking to upgrade TM P790Ti iron (6-GapWedge) from MMT 65R to a Padderson or Diamana Thump 95S...do I need to be concerned about changing club head weight?
/Hey Ian & Matt, Have you ever done a test of Padersen Kinetix and Ballistic shafts? I watch all your vids and don't recall it. They are fantastic. Love to also see Kyle Birkshire in a TXG vid for how he fits his clubs at 140+mph club speed.
So I have a shaft cutting question : My driver shaft is an Oban kiyoshi purple (low kick point) and i want to cut it 1 inch and a half to fit on my 3 wood instead. If i want the lowest flight possible, should I cut that 1,5 inch from the tip or from the butt? Thanks!
I game the Ventus Black 7x tipped 1”, Mavrik head 10 degrees. I love it. I bought it second hand so I’ve never compared it to anything else. So my thought is, should I tip everything?
Hi guys, great video. Quick question when you tip do you change the kick point? I would assume yes, therefore a low kick point would be higher...for a high kick point would it be lower and add more loft? Curious to see with a High/Mid kick point if it makes a bigger difference. Thanks Marc.
If a high HCP golfer want a shorter G410 with Alta CB driver, should you tip the shaft or shorten the butt end ? Or should you select a soft regular tipped vs a regular non-tipped shaft ?
I have my oban devotion tipped 1.5" inches in my ping G15 driver it's the best driver I've had and my favourite club in the bag whether its right for me I just know when I stand on the tee am positive I'll hit the fairway.
Brilliant vid!! I tipped a fujikura speeder 84g reg, 1.5 inch for my cobra f7 5 wood, best thing i ever did, exactly as said makes the head feel firmer and more in control
Hi ian good video. sent you a quick note around shaft options (stock or aftermarket) to the members email. Just to finalize your recommendations. Thanks.
I was told that you needed to have a fast swing speed to even consider tipping, can tipping be beneficial for a slower swing speed? Asking for a friend cause I obviously have a 120 mph swing speed and hit the ball 350 yds 😉😉
It's a good solution if you like the feel of a shaft but want a little more stability at impact. It can also be useful to get the tip just a little more stout if you're using a heavier-headed driver to get your preferred swingweight. Similar to hard-stepping iron shafts, it's a subtle difference. Ventus is a very stout shaft. Evenflow Riptide S was way too soft for me & Ventus S is borderline too stiff. For a player with say mid-90s speed that feels the S is just a bit too much, tipping an R flex would effectively give you an "R+". Oddly enough, Fujikura doesn't recommend tipping these much. The Velocore is in the tip & is the signature feature so if you're just going to cut it off, you aren't buying the right shaft.
This is super interesting... I hope you one day will have Mark Crossfield over and giev him a fitting session... It would make for great content on both your channels!
Iain, does a shaft like Ventus black that already has a much stiffer tip section get affected more by tipping then a shaft with a softer tip section like the red? If you were to do the same tipping on the black do you think the results would be much different and what do you think the change in S3 CPM would be? Thanks!
How does such a process affect the shaft if it was SST pured? Does it completely make the SST Puring done of the shaft worthless due to the changed of the mass at the end in the relation to the head movement?
Thanks so much guys ! I have been kinda the local club builder in my neighborhood....and only because I always played around with my own equipment !!! You both have taught me so much on the tech side, and I totally appreciate it !!! What started as me, just changing my own grips and shafts.....to all kinds of tweeks.on others gear......lol !! I pretty much do it for fun, as the guys pay for any parts !! I love this stuff and only wish I wasn't so damn old, I'd start a shop.....I'm 68 and having fun !!!
Thoughts on tipping a graphite design shaft? The manufacturer says you don’t need to. Most other premium shafts I’ve looked at require at least a little bit of tipping on the instructions
So interesting. I built my 2016 M2 Kurakage x-stiff tipped 1/2 an inch, simply because I loved the feel of my friend's driver set-up. I assumed what it did, but nice to really see the technical details around it
Nearly like Ian’s father or grandfather was a fly fishing rod fitter cuz this type of flex in the shafts is very much like a fly fishing rod. Great video lads
By droop you mean the toe section is lower than the rest of the club face? How does droop change when the release is a rolling release versus a straighter release? Maybe Dustin johnson's release versus phil mikelsons release pattern (roll release)?
Hi guys. Just wanted to say I've learned so much from you and how much I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences. I understand the value of getting fitted. Only problem is there really aren't any fitters I trust in my area. I've been to 2 recently and because of you I know more than both of them combined. Needless to say I waisted both my time and money and went away empty handed. I purposely left there names out as I'm not looking to bash anyone So!!! I'm left with trying to fit myself. With a current driver, Callaway XR with 5.5 flex my swing speed is rather low @ 80 mph. I hit the heel low quite a bit (probably my swing path) using Regular flex. I'm sure this isn't helping my swing speed. I'm 65 years YOUNG and in pretty good shape. Shafts I'm looking at are Bassara Series E 42 and Tensei AV Blue 55. The heads I'm considering are Cobra Speed Zone and Speed Zone Extreme. I'm reluctant to go to Senior shaft but won't completely disregard. I do have a rather smooth tempo. I try to emulate Freddy Couples. I know thats a lofty goal. I understand there are no absolutes but I am interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance, ScottyD
So are you guys tipping a longer shaft or tipping a standard length shorter? I'm curious because his distances were the same so it leads me to believe you tipped a longer shaft to standard.
Possibly there are more folks than you realize that enjoy all this techie stuff. Please keep it up as this is the only place I’ve found to get that sort of discussion.
Your channel makes me think nobody in my area knows how to club fit.
Exactly. My experience of club fittings is basically a shop sales guy letting you try several different clubs and you end up buying the one where we have a sort of vague mutual agreement on which is best. I've never really felt there was any great, in depth swing analysis. My conclusion is that a genuine fitting is a paid service, separate from the purchase of the clubs themselves.
You’re most likely correct. Same deal with golf instructors.
until you realize golf champion fits u to zero stock options in any club (driver/iron set)disregarding any of the companies offerings and tries to put you in the most egregious over the top shaft setup and gives u an estimate nearing $3,000
@fornuto1288 although Ian is now a part of club champion, I choose to believe he stands out in comparison
@@fornuto1288I’ve gone to both TXG and club champions for my past 2 fits and I’ve left with the options that best fit me. Stock works for my irons. I had a stock option for my driver but I like the performance of the upgrade so I went with that. Who did you fit with? My experience was excellent
I'm definitely adding "not a quacker" to the long list of "Ian-isms" that have worked their way into my golf vocabulary.
Ian: "Hey guys, welcome back".
Me: Likes video
Standard drills
I thought shaft "tipping" was what you did when someone did a great job of fitting you.
When Ian gets in technical explanation mode, his passion massively comes out, like he goes into flow mode.
Would love Kuchar’s thoughts on tipping
That's a great one, LMAO👍
Lol
Funny shit dude….
I'm going to start using "quacker" on the course
I knew nothing about equipment before finding TXG. Now I’m geeking on out on videos about shaft tipping and EI curves
After finding TXG I became addicting to being fit for clubs. Golf game loves it. The wife and my wallet hates it
Looool same
Butt Soft.... basically describing me after this year of Covid go-nowhere couch sitting...
(Aaaaaand I think I better stop there before making any sort of joke on some of the other terms used in this video. 😂 )
7:07 "This drive has been redacted to protect the innocent".
Guys, just wanted to say thank you for your videos, I'm a "why does that work like that" kind of person and your videos have given me an understanding of why golf is so hard to get right...😊
Here they come “MATTY!!! WHY DIDNT YOU PLAY THE SIM THIS YEAR?!?” 😂
Just bought a Ventus red velocore on eBay and found out it was tipped 1”. Had in back of my mind it was ruined and now a different shaft. You guys confirmed I have nothing to worry about.
I wish there was a fitter in DFW that knew and approached fitting even half as good as Ian. Feel like I’m better off watching Ian and fitting myself than going to most “fitters” around
So does Matt run on batteries or do you plug Him in every night?
Ian is the shaft whisperer.. he can make a golf club perform.. crazy knowledgeable..
Guys in my experience tipping 1.5” reduces spin while maintaining launch angle pretty close. Over a lot data that will become apparent, in my experience. Typically you wouldnt do that if you have low spin shaft or low spin head. Its usually when you need to reduce spin on a forgiving head again in my experience across 50 players i have tried it wirh.
So are we saying that tipping a shaft decreases the spin a little bit? Looks like about ~150rpm from this example. Every little bit matters for some people
That would be a fair assessment. 100-300rpm
@@ianfrasergolf Great thanks Ian. One more thing, in general it does or doesn't change the shaft profile? Was a little confused when you guys mentioned it could completely change the shaft profile. Thanks!
Ian...Quick Question..your opinion on the Graphite Design Tour AD IZ driver shaft 6x...Tks....
Good shaft. Very versatile, you see it played by many different players and swing types.
@@ianfrasergolf Much appreciated Tks Ian 👍👍👍
Shaft tipping is a great way to manipulate the ball flight - it seems like the OEMs don't really tip their fairway woods properly and just install as if a driver shaft. Maybe it's not true for every company, but the OEM ones almost never play 'right' compared to when I buy one, tip it per the shaft manufacturer's instructions, and build the club myself. For the longest time, TM had that shallow hosel bore as well, so it was good to pull their install and tip a little bit as well, if you wanted it to play like the same shaft in other clubs. More difficult now with the changeable tips.
Are you saying to tip more than the manufacturers instructions?
@@thekid5345 No, I am saying to follow their instructions. But I don't think all the OEM assembly does follow the full tipping instructions. I have played a lot of the Aerotech SS85X shaft over the years (they are from my hometown) and I can tell you tipping makes a HUGE difference when putting them in different woods. Also making sure your iron shafts are FULLY seated in the hosel, especially PING where they taper the hosel - I can post pictures of my OEM iron pulls where the shafts have been inserted by Ping to random depths, even with their hydraulic seating device. Would be nice to know if the boys at TXG have a similar experience.
@@claytonpetree527 interesting. I was thinking about sending my next iron set to KBS directly and having them install the shafts I want. As for drivers and fairways all of this stuff is pretty overwhelming. Any problems with TItleist and driver shaft installs?
@@thekid5345 Although I loved their product, I have not played a Titleist metalwood since the 983E and K drivers were out. Those had the through bore. Honestly, you would be best served going through a place like TXG to ensure you get EXACTLY what you want. I hope to some day, even though I often build my own stuff. These guys are amazing.
Matty did you like this video on upload? How did I only get the second like maybe Bradley beat me. 😂 I did hear a rumour that if this video gets 10k likes Mikey will make an appearance. Hey Mr Fraser when sorting out your budget going into a fit how does shaft tipping or for that matter fit build shop customization how do budget factor it? You can assume for the purpose of this question that I’m buying the drugs from Mikey’s Dispensary based on a TXG fitters Prescription. 👍 or sorry I guess I was second so 👍👍
Can we actually get a ventus purple though? I don’t care what it is it would just look sick 😍
Fingers crossed we'll be seeing an SST Pureing video soon as well as that will tie in with what Ian was mentioning about the shaft drooping at impact etc. I'd love to hear what he has to say about it. Great stuff again!
Pureing is real, one can definitely see the difference
@@kareemchallenger I've had my whole set pured and I noticed the annoying label positions more than any playing benefit. Hate the TM shaft adapters for the same reason. The Callaway & Titleist ones don't spin the shaft. Paying for pure'ing, then having it rotated off that axis because I adjusted the hosel, made me nuts.
@@canyonaro I know what you mean. I also have my entire set pured, I know when I changed the position to test, literally rotate the shaft 180 I spun my 3 wood by 1000 rpm more and it would go much higher. All of the that is with no loft change.
Cheers guys great video.
Semi-related, could you guys do a video on frequency matching? And fitting customers to a specific frequency vs. fitting customer to a more general flex.
I got fit 8 years ago and was told I was a 6.9. Is this still a good practice for fittings, especially irons?
How would a ventus red tr stiff, tipped 1”, compare to say an untipped X stiff? Thinking the 70 version in a 4 wood. Driver SS ~ 104-106. Generally I create too much spin
Tipped or not, Sim or not.. doesn't seem to matter much to Matt, he pounds everything Ian puts in his hands. I think it shows the importance of a good swing, coaching.
Keeping the shaft the same length by tipping it would probably not change the flex profile as much since it only shifts the “soft” point a “negligible” amount. However tipping it and playing it 1” or more shorter (cut from the butt), I hypothesize, would make a more significant difference than stock .
Excess tipping in a butt soft shaft please! I did this in my speeder NX 50S and its money for my 7W! Strong kick but i also don’t know if that’s due to more head weight of a FW head vs Driver. Anyone… help! Haha
I have a question. I have an in between golf swing on the driver (swing speed). I swing 109mph. I guess thats between a stiff and extra stiff flex.. I have always just stuck with the stiff. Would tipping it .5 inches make a stiff a stiff.5 (a tweener stiffness) or would it not work that way?
The only shaft tip I need....is how to get my hands on an autoflex? ;)
The way a properly fitted shaft helps you find the middle of the club face still makes me smile. The ball marks and wear are beginning to accumulate right in the middle. It’s impressive, if I say so myself. I can listen to you guys talk shafts all day long!
What would you say is standard tipping for an adjustable driver? When I read the shaft manufacturer tipping charts, they all say that tipping is not necessary for drivers; however, it’s my impression that the club manufacturers all tip their shafts a certain amount. I play a TSR2 and would like to try some aftermarket shafts, but don’t know what Titleist uses for their standard tipping spec.
I saw the title and go so excited that we might finally see Mikey in a video!
😆 it's coming eventually!
This video shows just how high quality that the fitting service that TXG provides
Great video. You mentioned the standard shaft was tipped 1/2", Is that to compensate for your universal (club conex)adaptor?
Love, love, love this video! I’m getting a Tour AD IZ 7X. I want to play it at 45 inches. How would I know if I should be trimming from the butt or tip section?
Love this . Would be nice to see the affect of soft or hard stepping as well
Maybe you could annunciate the word “section” so we can hear the “shun” part a little better? 🤷🏽♂️
Great video. I would have thought the tipping would have had greater effect. Thanks gents.
How does this channel not have at least 500k subs? Some of the best content around an quality delivery.
Does Taylormade pre tip their shafts? My stiff kuro kage feels so much stiffer than my other shafts.
Please do the one about headweight
Why dont just get stiffer shaft to begin with? Just trying to understand in simpler ways
You may have done this already but would love to see a video where you compare a low lofted driver with high launch shaft vs high lofted driver and low launch shaft. How close would the flights get, what are the benefits of one over the other? Seems DJ is using high loft and low launch shaft
Much appreciated guys! Great test to confirm tipping is a gentle adjustment ....
What shaft has the closest profile to the tipped Ventus Red (without having to tip it)?
Everybody is a Ventus guy if they can afford it
Great stuff guys! I'd be interested in learning more about whether tipping moves a shaft from an S to X flex in the same product. For example, a tipped Ventus Blue 6-S becomes more like a Ventus Blue 6-X.
Me too can u give me some advice
Love this video! Was very interesting to see that Adam Scott put the ventus red into his driver and led the field in Houston. Do you know if his ventus was tipped? Cheers!
A blind test to see if you can tell which one is tipped would be a fun test too to see if your preconceptions are making you feel something that's not there or maybe you're reacting to those preconceptions
Hi guys love the video, not a fitter but I eat this stuff up. I’d like to see how tipping something like a GD tour ad iZ, where it’s got a firm butt, medium mid and firm tip. ? Cheers! Oh also I’ve heard TM always tips their shafts. Is this true and do other OEM’s do this?and why?👍🏼🇨🇦⛳️
Is there a bigger difference for players that aren’t as consistent? Like, does tipping it help more?
👍👍👍
i can watch you 2 discuss technical issues like this all day. great video and explanation of tipping
These are the videos that separates you from the rest.... please more tech... txg so cal🤟🤙
6 unedited shots in a row.... Get it in the bag! Haha
Extremely informative guys. Would love to see a video with checking the tipping of Ventus Black/Blue vs no tipping. Great video!
Its the same. I tipped my blue. Les whip im the head
The gear geek in me is purring
Top notch
I could listen to these all day. Wait a minute, I usually do lol
My shaft always gets stiffer near the butt section.
Wife walks in the room @ 1:39 "We leave the stiffer part which is up in the ....." WDF ARE U LISTENING TO?
Would you gents ever do a Hot Melt (Hawt Melz) video.....c'mon, show us some real esoteric voodoo magic!! ...Uh, not to say you haven't already blown our minds with club magic already. (Hot Melt Hot Melt Hot Melt Hot Melt.)
useful video, thank you guys
Looking to upgrade TM P790Ti iron (6-GapWedge) from MMT 65R to a Padderson or Diamana Thump 95S...do I need to be concerned about changing club head weight?
What does tipping do to torque thank you
/Hey Ian & Matt, Have you ever done a test of Padersen Kinetix and Ballistic shafts? I watch all your vids and don't recall it. They are fantastic. Love to also see Kyle Birkshire in a TXG vid for how he fits his clubs at 140+mph club speed.
So I have a shaft cutting question :
My driver shaft is an Oban kiyoshi purple (low kick point) and i want to cut it 1 inch and a half to fit on my 3 wood instead.
If i want the lowest flight possible, should I cut that 1,5 inch from the tip or from the butt?
Thanks!
Would tipping an Evenflow Red give similar results? Looking for something that feels like a Modus 130X but doesn't spin to much.
Don't you need to tip a shaft in a 3 wood or a 5 wood?
I game the Ventus Black 7x tipped 1”, Mavrik head 10 degrees. I love it. I bought it second hand so I’ve never compared it to anything else. So my thought is, should I tip everything?
Hi guys, great video. Quick question when you tip do you change the kick point? I would assume yes, therefore a low kick point would be higher...for a high kick point would it be lower and add more loft? Curious to see with a High/Mid kick point if it makes a bigger difference. Thanks Marc.
If a high HCP golfer want a shorter G410 with Alta CB driver, should you tip the shaft or shorten the butt end ? Or should you select a soft regular tipped vs a regular non-tipped shaft ?
I have my oban devotion tipped 1.5" inches in my ping G15 driver it's the best driver I've had and my favourite club in the bag whether its right for me I just know when I stand on the tee am positive I'll hit the fairway.
Brilliant vid!! I tipped a fujikura speeder 84g reg, 1.5 inch for my cobra f7 5 wood, best thing i ever did, exactly as said makes the head feel firmer and more in control
Hi ian good video.
sent you a quick note around shaft options (stock or aftermarket) to the members email. Just to finalize your recommendations. Thanks.
I was told that you needed to have a fast swing speed to even consider tipping, can tipping be beneficial for a slower swing speed?
Asking for a friend cause I obviously have a 120 mph swing speed and hit the ball 350 yds 😉😉
It's a good solution if you like the feel of a shaft but want a little more stability at impact. It can also be useful to get the tip just a little more stout if you're using a heavier-headed driver to get your preferred swingweight.
Similar to hard-stepping iron shafts, it's a subtle difference. Ventus is a very stout shaft. Evenflow Riptide S was way too soft for me & Ventus S is borderline too stiff. For a player with say mid-90s speed that feels the S is just a bit too much, tipping an R flex would effectively give you an "R+".
Oddly enough, Fujikura doesn't recommend tipping these much. The Velocore is in the tip & is the signature feature so if you're just going to cut it off, you aren't buying the right shaft.
@@canyonaro thx for the info.
This is super interesting... I hope you one day will have Mark Crossfield over and giev him a fitting session... It would make for great content on both your channels!
Iain, does a shaft like Ventus black that already has a much stiffer tip section get affected more by tipping then a shaft with a softer tip section like the red? If you were to do the same tipping on the black do you think the results would be much different and what do you think the change in S3 CPM would be? Thanks!
How does such a process affect the shaft if it was SST pured? Does it completely make the SST Puring done of the shaft worthless due to the changed of the mass at the end in the relation to the head movement?
Oh, and by the way. Matt I'm a lefty too.
might be a stupid question here, but does tipping the shaft 2” mean the shaft is 2” shorter?
Tipping a driver shaft one inch for example , how much would it alter the torque number then ??
Thanks so much guys ! I have been kinda the local club builder in my neighborhood....and only because I always played around with my own equipment !!! You both have taught me so much on the tech side, and I totally appreciate it !!! What started as me, just changing my own grips and shafts.....to all kinds of tweeks.on others gear......lol !! I pretty much do it for fun, as the guys pay for any parts !! I love this stuff and only wish I wasn't so damn old, I'd start a shop.....I'm 68 and having fun !!!
Thoughts on tipping a graphite design shaft? The manufacturer says you don’t need to. Most other premium shafts I’ve looked at require at least a little bit of tipping on the instructions
What is this Matty? 120 speed? 😅 You slowing down?
So interesting. I built my 2016 M2 Kurakage x-stiff tipped 1/2 an inch, simply because I loved the feel of my friend's driver set-up. I assumed what it did, but nice to really see the technical details around it
I always thought tipping was removing like 1/8-1/2" max. Had no idea you could remove 2" and still have a useable shaft.
Nearly like Ian’s father or grandfather was a fly fishing rod fitter cuz this type of flex in the shafts is very much like a fly fishing rod. Great video lads
Great content guys. Would you recommend Butt tipping a tensei white shaft for mini driver
By droop you mean the toe section is lower than the rest of the club face? How does droop change when the release is a rolling release versus a straighter release? Maybe Dustin johnson's release versus phil mikelsons release pattern (roll release)?
Hi guys. Just wanted to say I've learned so much from you and how much I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences. I understand the value of getting fitted. Only problem is there really aren't any fitters I trust in my area. I've been to 2 recently and because of you I know more than both of them combined. Needless to say I waisted both my time and money and went away empty handed. I purposely left there names out as I'm not looking to bash anyone So!!! I'm left with trying to fit myself. With a current driver, Callaway XR with 5.5 flex my swing speed is rather low @ 80 mph. I hit the heel low quite a bit (probably my swing path) using Regular flex. I'm sure this isn't helping my swing speed. I'm 65 years YOUNG and in pretty good shape. Shafts I'm looking at are Bassara Series E 42 and Tensei AV Blue 55. The heads I'm considering are Cobra Speed Zone and Speed Zone Extreme. I'm reluctant to go to Senior shaft but won't completely disregard. I do have a rather smooth tempo. I try to emulate Freddy Couples. I know thats a lofty goal. I understand there are no absolutes but I am interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance, ScottyD
So are you guys tipping a longer shaft or tipping a standard length shorter? I'm curious because his distances were the same so it leads me to believe you tipped a longer shaft to standard.
Hi Ian, will a shaft weaken over time? Will the material be the same strength after X amount of swings and possibly become softer?
Great videos guys! Do you advise to tip a Graphite Design AD DI fairwaywood shaft ?
I've never heard "Butt stiffness" or "Butt stiff shaft" ever lol. Keep up the great work!!
Very interesting video. Have you measured the torque after tipping it? i am quite interessed to know by how much it has lowered.
Matts feedback comments while he holds his follow through can turn you on if you’re not careful
Very interesting. If you ask Fujikura they say not to tip the Ventus at all but if needed 1/2 to 1 inch at most.
"I feel "this" or I feel "that". You have to love the feedback you get from Matt. Something you can't get from a robot. Invaluable information.
Possibly there are more folks than you realize that enjoy all this techie stuff. Please keep it up as this is the only place I’ve found to get that sort of discussion.