Inside look at becoming an Elite Hotshot Firefighter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- This 22-minute documentary movie short goes deep into the wildland fire academy's militaristic training methods and Marine Corps style of hardcore discipline to motivate young fire trainees.
Former Marine Corps DIs take command of 30 individual civilians, weed out the toughest 18, and transform them into a working team of gung-ho, can-do wildland firefighters.
From check-in to graduation, the three-week academy employs tough physical and mental challenges, and uses a steep 800-foot San Diego mountain "MF Mountain" as a metaphor to overcome and conquer personal preconceived notions of mental and physical limits through teamwork and close group comradery.
This is not a very good representation of hotshot training.
That’s cool but this is what my department required of me to do to work there so i didn’t have an option to choose if I wanted to work for them
Just remember *Republican* U.S. Rep. *Tom McClintock* called wildland firefighting an unskilled labor and voted against additional funding. Mean while his state California is currently on fire...If he's in your district I suggest voting for someone else.
Well this certainly ain't how my hotshot crew was. I would say our PT was probably worse but we didn't do all this militaristic stuff. Overhead must all be ex-military. Most fire crews are not like this, although the PT is just as hard if not harder.
I'm a hotshot and we don't train this way. This doesn't develop production and safety protocalls.
You were
Hey brother. I’m trying to get on with the forest service myself. I have all my certs, can you give me some advice on how to fill a slot?
@@jessecorbett3751 what region are you trying to get in ? Call the hotshot crews, go in for a meet and greet, see if you can PT with them. You can also get on an engine that is stationed near a shot crew. During fire season they pull from engines and other crews to “fill in” during assignments
Some crews specifically hire vets
I see many asking "Is the paramilitray training really necessary?"
My answer is maybe, maybe not.
I believe the main thing this sorts out is if each individual has a strong enough WHY in their mind.
Don't like the paramilitary gauntlet of training? Quit. Don't like Running, hiking with heavy pack, digging fire line? Quit.
You HAVE to know your WHY and have the motivation to see it through.
As many have stated here not all IA , Hotshot, smokejumper training is Paramilitaristic but it is still very challenging. You will still need a WHY.
Thank you guys for your service.
Thank you to all the wildland firefighters AND wildland firefighter support staff for what you do your work dose not and will not go unnoticed!!!
This is not necessary. Somebody’s got a military fetish. We did PTs calisthenics and we all performed perfectly fine.
I like this, I’m a marine engineer 15-19 and then went into Wildland as a type 1 for a bit. Although the pride the firefighters may have is there and they work their ass off. Doing all the little shit by the numbers instills discipline. If you’re not a marine, you won’t understand. Definitely different from what I experienced tho
Lmao boot
Been a hotshot for years that we do not do anything remotely close to this all the military stuff is completely unnecessary
Are they trying to pretend that they're in the military?
It’s more like the military type training is to instill discipline and induce stress to ensure they’re able to operate efficiently in a stressful/life or death situation.
Does it actually do that? When I left the military I wouldn't trust half the guys with a sharp #2 pencil much less my life.
@@jaymag9350 Yeah alot of the guys aren't exactly the tip of the spear ha.
that shit looks easy compared to when i started my first type 2 IA crew. hot shot cert was much more tough. hell even we figured that turning those govt issue gloves rough out were more comfortable. supply hated it but happy feet, happy hands happy life on the line
😂😂🤣🤣
No one does that
That was 100% a Marine Corps cadence in the begining.
Haha this is a poor reenactment of what it's like
Well it wasn’t a reenactment lol that was my academy video from 2009 when I worked for them
For those who dislike the hard training, remember these people are fighting for our native land, so maybe ya we want well disaplined people handling very dangerous shit, ya maybe they seem they stole from the military, but hell at least they don't let weak un motivated individuals try and do this job, only the best for our country and I approve, loads of respect for anyone who is driven to serve, thanks to you all
We trained till we puked but more of a collage team and class feel than military. I worked five season, and this looks silly to me.
What in the bagger is this??????
Something you wouldn’t make it through.
What in the actual heck did I just see..... looks like someone watched way too many USMC and BUDS vids...
What the hell was that hahaha
Awesome!! Incredible respect for these guys!!
Yellow up for everything!! Type 2 shit
Facts
That's all the easy part boys, go get u some fire now. HELL YEAH BOYS☝️💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
To each their own, hotshot for many seasons an never had nothing like this for hiring.
Drop the yelling in their face! It doesn’t do anything positive or make them tougher. When I was going through the academy we had a LT try that and no one had respect for him. If the trainers were never in the military don’t try and act like it.
All of the cadre were current marine DIs that were hired by the department for the academy for us recruits to go through for hire
@@soreviloify that’s fucking dumb
Did wildland as part of my combination department rolled to two of the largest incidents in my states history than went into the corps, kinda backwards but been trying to get back into wildland since getting out
I’m a vet and it annoys me when I see non military act like it’s basic training. They are training to be firefighters not go into combat.
What the hell is this? 😂 this is NOT AT ALL what it’s actually like 😂
Bro is this bull shit ?
There are thousands of crews across the country, feds and contractors. I'm sure a few are
I was thinking the same thing
Lol well it sure was reality for me when I was being filmed doing it lol this is my academy video from 2009 when I joined their shot crew
@@soreviloify I’m in the Navy and I have all my certs for fire fighting. What do I need to do when I’m out to get on board with the wildfire crew and then a hot shot crew? I been in the Navy for 12 years.
Keep it up to get you’re home\ peace of mind.
This looks like reform school
Making firefighters or robots?
Making men.
@Martin King elaborate on the walking to their death part
Someone is still stuck in Drill Instructor school.
Where do I sign up or get information on how to apply.
You gotta apply in September for the following fire season, really lame, but that's how the FS is doing it currently. It's all through USA Jobs as well.
Tanner Kinkela what grade do I need to be?
USAJOBS.GOV
The forest service deadline was around October, usually falling somewhere around the end of September. If you hop on it now, the National Park Service still has app’s open up until tomorrow for some jobs, and early February for others, as does the Bureau of Land Management. You can still get on a crew for the upcoming season if you get your resume squared away, submit your app, and start making calls. You’d be applying at the GS-3 level as an entry level forestry aid/technician, unless you’ve got a Bachelors degree in a forestry related field. Then you might be able to qualify for a GS-4. The NPS and the BLM are both solid agency’s and getting on a handcrew would be your ticket towards training to get on a shot crew. There’s a hotshot app open on usajobs for the bureau of Indian affairs as well out of Arizona.
Also dude you don’t have to do any academy’s where they shave your head and make you do boot camp. You can if you want I guess, but just put in an application, find some contact info, call the crew’s overhead and tell them how stoked you are to get a job, work hard, and learn. Then ask if you can stop by in person and drop off your resume and put a face to the name. Then if they like you, you’ll get a callback and a tentative job offer and be good to go for the season. Then train your ass off for it and show up in shape and ready to go.
Look into to some contract crews now it's your only hope for the 2020 season
This looks like marine corps ff style
Are all fire academies like this?
No
So what is it actually like to get your cert?
This is a BIA crew - different culture than USFS and BLM.
Footing !
I’m in the military and this a straight rip from boot camp training. Teach people to fight fires and treat them like humans. No need to shave their hair off and do jodies.
This is cute 😂
You wouldn’t make it.
@@Ronniejosephgasca
Comradery goes a long ways.
Your cute 🤣😉
@@bradleygerdes138 Hey baby 😉 hahahHa🤭
such bullshit. no spacing in the line. bad managment. and the sawyer was kinda reckless. not even close to being a hotshot 12 14 hours on line if you get lucky on a hot spot. i went over 40 hours online with a team in cave creek az
As a mop shot type 2 crew member. I did 16 hour shifts minimum.
I died when he said 12 hours 😂😂😂
This is a joke…. No shot crew trains like this.
I find it hilarious about them being a military camp 🤣🤣
Nah I'm good on the hair cut mate
Man these guys running it like marine corps boot camp , if these guys were former marines like myself , that’s a dishonor in my eyes !!!! Thats sacred for men and woman becoming marines not for a couple week dog and pony show . Make your own program don’t steal that honor from the marine corps that took many many years to develops for the average joe . Only way is if everyone of the trainees were former marines !!!! They shouldn’t be running with a marine guide on unless they earned that right and wore the EGA serving . Hope everyone of these guys were marines especially the trainees .
Personally man wildland firefighters are trained in a military mindset to operate against wildland fires. I like it how they do marine corps bootcamp training cause I’m a marine too and this is the right training to be a Hotshot
You do realize what these guys actually do right? They jump into the middle of fires without almost no support to combat massive wildfires. A few die every year. Hell, I think more wildland firefighters die in a year than marines in combat. Don't act like the marines haven't already been disrespected. I've seen plenty of little 5ft 3in goblin looking mexicans join the marines and act hard because they are marines, in reality they are doing inventory in a warehouse. Far away from any real danger. If you cannot understand why wildland fighters who need lots of discipline to simply not run away from the job need this type of training. Then I'm guessing you are one of those crayon eating 5ft 3in marines sweeping a floor somewhere. This isn't the early 2000s anymore. You guys aren't going house to house in Fallejuh so spare me the dishonor crap.
Daytona Sixty-Eight lol got’em
@B Massaro hotshot crews do a lot of training, they are elite wild land firefighters.
@Daytona Sixty-Eight where did you serve ?
This is first ridiculous and second illegal
What a joke of a crew
Golden eagle is actually a solid crew
Being a hotshot firefighter doesn’t pay and doesn’t get you anywhere in life other than developing severe medical problems
But nothing beats the views and people you see. And that alone is worth all the pain
@@alejandrocorderorios7877 wildland firefighting is a joke, forests are supposed to burn, it helps regrowth, if someone builds a cabin in the middle of a half dead forest and it burns to the ground that’s their problem
Sigh. I don't think I even want to even try to tell that wildland firefighting is more then just stopping wildfire. It seems like you are the type of person who will never change their belief. Have a good day or night depending on time zone
@@NJFireBuff you think they go out there for fun? The work is miserable. One of the first things the Incident commander will determine before engaging the fire is if there’s any reason to. They don’t put their lives in danger for shits and giggles. They let plenty of fires burn out, They even do prescribed burns in areas. The fires we fight are the ones that pose a threat to infrastructure or whole communities not “cabins in the woods”
There a lot of life lessons and valuable information in it. It’s also a very important job that’s gotten get done. Without them it wouldn’t be long till places like Cali literally did it exist anymore.
" good morning ladies" how degrading.
what the hell is this
What the hell HAHAHAHAHA
Joke of a crew.Hahaha
This is hilarious. This ain’t training nobody to fight a fire. And I’m sure it’s a dishonor to people who are actually in the military.
This is exactly when no one wants to be a volunteer firefighter or even a hot shot anymore it's videos like this that just show hazing and unprofessionalism to the highest standard.
Maybe this is why they have shitty pay and no workers?
This is bullshit. Maybe a prison crew!
Propaganda