Decoding Bear's Creative Compulsions - You Gotta Hear This! feat. Troy Baker
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ย. 2024
- A really fun, special YGHT in which @bearmccreary joins Troy and me to talk through his new solo album THE SINGULARITY, plus lots and lots of general career talk!
More on the album here:
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Edited by Dallas Crane
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Me!
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How dare Troy diminishing my ability to spot Bear IN A METAL FESTIVAL!? 😤If anything, Austin was the one popping out amongst all metal heads.
Yeah! He must have been a Skittle in a bag of m&m's, not a Skittle in a bag of Gummi Bears! 🧐
Someone's in trouble. XD
We need an on screen counter for the number of times Troy's told the Sistine Chapel story lol I know there's always a new audience, but it does make me laugh
Like with convents. Every video i found that interested me turned out to be the same story.
I love internet in 2024 where we can hear those talented people just talk to each other and be a fly on the wall to experience this. This is insanly good. Thank you.
It never ceases to amaze me how something as intensely personal, visceral, and emotional as music is written in a language that is so logical and mathematically precise.
Legends all around
This is perfect, so many of my favorite people in one place, on one of my favorite series.
Bear's music for Agents of SHIELD has always stuck with me. "A Spy's Goodbye" is one of the best pieces of music I've ever heard in any TV show, and it wrecks me every time.
"Crossing Into Darkness" has never and WILL never get old to my ears, on the topic of AoS music
@bearmccreary I am going to listen to this entire album in order. Thank you for this amazing creation you have shared with us.
I'm dying for an Orpheus under the hood episode ❤
Man… I’ve never listened to Bear talk nor have I heard his music outside of TWD and GoW but the clips of the album that were on display here along with the WAY he talks about his music have both made me an instant fan.
I got shades of Korn, Muse, Rage, Velvet Revolver, and much more from those tracks. Truly fucking SICK.
What a trio. Had a total blast listening this episode. Everyone's passion is so contagious
I always love these conversations. It was like sitting down with old friends and just shooting the breeze about a new album. It was especially cool to see Troy's face on some of those cut. As Bear said "It melted his brain."
Great video, as always. Keep up the fantastic work.
Excellent episode!! I love being able to get into the mind of a composer WHILE listening to their music because the actual composer IS listening along with you.
Yay, blessed with a new You Gotta Hear This!
Blessed indeed lol Already hooked on it
This was super incredible thanks so much for letting us experience this Austin! Super keen to go and listen to Bears full record now!
Holy shit.
Lmao. Bear says anything cool, and Troy is just instantly born again by it.
Ooh, I'm so glad I've gotten to hear this. It is Always a pleasure to stumble upon a deep and passionate conversation of two, or in this case, three friends. Three of my beloved people from the industry. I'm still very excited since I've seen this yesterday.
I've listened to the album, some compositions blown my mind.
Thank you dear Austin for this.
Had to pause the video after "Escape from the Machines," to properly un-melt my face...
What an unexpected treat, thank you! I only found out about Bear McCreary recently (through the God of War soundtrack) and have been exploring his stuff ever since - what a great timing🎉
That new metal album from Bear is Fire…I love it!
Love Troy grappling with Bear’s comment about “not being an asshole” lol
Thoroughly enjoyed the mix up of format. Thanks Austin. More of this please!
Also, if there’s one good thing I can impart into this conversation, it’s that Austin and Troy need to listen to Opeth. The craving for dynamic range and interesting tonal color is right there through that band’s whole history. Want their heavier blackened stuff? Orchid, Morningrise, and My Arms Your Hearse. Want the almost Death Metal by way of jazz fusion? Still Life. Progressive Melodic Death Metal at its absolute best? Blackwater Park, Deliverance, Ghost Reveries, and Watershed. Something softer that feels like the soundtrack for November? Damnation. Jazzy progressive rock? Heritage, Pale Communion, and Sorceress. It’s all there, it is the end all be all of heavy music in my honest opinion.
Absolute gem of a channel, Austin, thank you for all the work you do. Can't wait to watch! Between Bear McCreary and John Powell recently, it's always amazing to see the insight of composers talking to composers. Troy always asks such great questions, too.
Damn. "Type III" has now been my ear worm since I first heard it. I'm dead.
Dammit Troy! I was in the process of writing a comment about how I want Bear to demo a Bond opening song after listening to "Type III" and then you had to say it. ;)
I've always had a lot of respect for metal but only ever listened casually/occasionally. I listened to The Singularity from start to finish today though and it definitely shook something loose. What a treat! Surprisingly (and excellently) eclectic without sacrificing cohesion. I know I shouldn't be surprised, considering Bear's track record, but the layers of craft on this album are on another level. Also Brendan McCreary's vocal work is staggering. I really did gotta hear this, so thanks for putting it in my ears! I have a lot of metallic exploration to do now.
I loved everything on this. So much interesting information on the creative mindset and a conversation that flows like water. Thank you!
what bear wrote/continues to write for rings of power is genuinely some of the best music written for picture in the last ten or fifteen years. immense achievement!
This was an amazing episode, and perhaps the most I've related with Mr. Baker, head banging with every song! I'm one of those who still listens to whole albums in strict order so Mr. McCreary is not asking much of me, but this definitely sounds like it's going to play on loop for me (also, for what is worth, I listened to his Rings of Power and God of War scores BEFORE watching the show or playing the game, and still found them incredible musical works).
It took me a whole week to see the entire episode 😅 just back and forward listening to guns and roses and yes indeed Slash is the best and this episode was also amazing 🤘
What a delight to see this pop up in my feed ❤
this was amazing!
It’s interesting to see how Bear breaks down recording, because as a metal guitarist that also writes all of the orchestral parts for my bands music, I am INTIMATELY familiar with the concept of demoing. It’s the idea of composing a piece and then finishing the song in the recording process, rather than finding the song in a room with 5 other musicians.
The parallels between genres actually helped the composing side of things come naturally and it’s something I absolutely don’t take for granted.
Is this were we might do reaction/discussion requests? : D
A special guest interview with Wilbert Roget II would be Tip Top...!
Would LOVE to hear you guys discuss/react to Helldivers 2. "Cup of Liber-tea" is the most visible one, but for my money "Extraction" is the one that really takes the crown. I must have listened to it 50+ times at this point, and everytime it still gives me a semi. (I can only apologize)
Bonus Points, "Mercenaries" Theme from 2005 - by Michael Giacchino...!
I asked about this once upon a time, but any chance of making downloadable or streaming audio files for all the "You Gotta Hear This!" episodes? Love watching, but would love to be able to listen on-the-go too! Thanks in advance if so!
yeah I will be potting on Spotify at some point soon!
Well come back!!
1:30:22 On the subject of a motif that ties a concept album together, I'd point towards Kamelot's Epica/The Black Halo albums. While it's jam-packed with banger tunes, the one constant through it all is solemn waltz of Helena's theme.
Oh my god! Yes!!!!
Ugh I LOVE Bear's work, Agent's of Shield is made so much better from his talent. Loved this talk!
I adore this series so much Mr. Wintory! Hearing all of your thoughts on this stuff is so incredibly interesting and inspiring.
I may have mentioned this before, but if you’re taking recommendations for potential episodes, I would love if you could explore the film scores of composers mainly famous for their classical concert music. Sergei Prokofiev, Leonard Bernstein, Ralph Vaughan Williams, John Corigliano, John Adams, Philip Glass, Nico Muhly, etc. all have film scores in their catalogue. That would be fun I think :)
Yeah I've thought about that very idea before!
@@awintory awesomeeee! Love your work as always (both compositionally and video wise of course) :D
Austin's listening face: -_- (all thoughts and analysis occurring in his head)
Troy's listening face: @~@^*$#*&$@#($*@)$&^ (MAKE ALL THE FACES TO MIRROR THE MUSIC)
(I know Austin's probably already listened to the album and Troy probably hasn't, but still a good chuckle side by side.)
Three friends passionately talking about the process of making music...ah that makes me wish I had friends lol
Can't overlook what happens to different faces when listening to music.
Austin looks like he is mentally visualizing the mix. I love it.
New episode anytime soon? 🥺🙏
Hopefully!
All GOATs here. ;)
❤❤❤
Sting recently put out an album, and duets with Brian Jones!
Saw Bear and Claudio Sanchez from Coheed and Cambria on Instagram going to a broadway show together. So need a collab between Bear and Coheed!!
Ok I wrote the earlier comment before listening to the whole thing. Bear is basically making a Coheed and Cambria record! I’m almost upset he didn’t mention them when talking about concept albums, as ALL (almost all) of their albums are concept albums AND part of the same concept. And they take the approach of it’s there if you want it, or just enjoy the music. Crazy. I think Bear and Claudio are kind of converging on the same thing coming from 2 different directions. Bear coming from soundtrack composing and Claudio coming from being a rock act. 😮
Oh AND Satch is here AND Forrester Saville did the mix!! Come on😂
1:08:26 I like how nobody corrects Troy here. Renoir was born some 360 years after Raphael, should have stuck with the Ninja Turtles. :D
I loved Agents of SHIELD and Outlander's scores.
Then I lost my shit with God of War, Ragnarok and Rings of Power when I can hear it all together.
I love that it only took 40 minutes to get to the actual point of the video :)
This is definitely something worth listening to, even if to my metal ears it's way overproduced. Genre is such a weird filter to listen to music through. I'm one of those metal people that, when you tell me it's metal, live is king. It's that idea that the ideal metal record captures what's going to be your live performance or, even better, sets up what's going to become a definitive version when you do it live to that perfect audience, that if you can't give a memorable rendition of it every gig, you shouldn't waste your time recording anything at all, yada yada yada. If I approach it as "metal", it will do nothing for me. If I just approach it openly, as "music", I find it to be a "fusion-metal-thing" and then I'm able to properly appreciate the many metal elements it has. Bear seems to be pretty confident in his live performances of this, and that in itself for me is quite encouraging. Props to him, his brother and their team, and thanks for bringing such an amazing guest.
This episode is 22 hours too short
At the moment, I can't afford a Spotify subscription. That means that while I'm on the move, Spotify shuffles EVERYTHING. It also adds random suggestions in between my playlists. It's a bit less punishing on PC, but I would love to walk in the Finnish summer night, listening to these albums from beginning to end in order for maximum impact. Alas, maybe once I can get that subscription, until that, I'll listen indoors!
Spotify doing the shuffle thing though? Absolutely horrible experience, which they're going for anyway. Money over artistic vision, man. Sucks so bad.
I'm confident there are other platforms you can use!
@@awintory I'll have to look into them. In general, my brain of autism likes Spotify a lot so that's my go-to. Thank you for the reminder that there are others! :D
@@awintory Also congrats to you and Angela!
AI is different. Unlike actual tech advancements, AI depends on robbing creatives of their work with the sole purpose of replacing them. There's no beating about the bush - they will take everything you are and everything you ever did, and try to seel it without giving you any credit. People who are pushing for this are so divorced from any sort of reality we recognize, with their minds already in that dream of "future" and the mountains of money being thrown at them, and actively fighting them is a necessity, for all our sakes.
You know the whole end conversation about listening in order, happily consuming a *dense* double album, focusing not on just playing music but sitting *in* the music and experiencing it fully, experiencing it not just digitally but also on vinyl as well as rapturously becoming a part of the music in live shows, there is one group out there doing all of that...some to the point of being reallllly annoying with it but that's going to happen when it's *that* many people...Swifties. Do you know where you were at midnight, April 19th, 2024? Every Swiftie on the planet does. Mediocre music critics call the album too long and who has every song meticulously studied like it was a college course and could readily sing along when they debuted on stage? Swifties.
People can and will sniff down their noses like priggish assholes about it and act like it's a bunch of teen girls in spite of endless evidence to the contrary, but as a group the people who are putting in the work to enjoy an artists work to its utmost is that community.
Heartily agree. I'm not really part of her "audience" but anyone who makes music is foolhardy to ignore others who do so and engender ENORMOUS reaction. It doesn't happen randomly
Bear is great of course. His Battlestar Galactica stuff is amazing. Too bad his talent in wasted on such a pile of garbage like Rings of Power. Not only is the music less than nothing compared to Howard Shores score but it doesn't stand out at all or make any impact or help the show in any way. Amazon really had zero idea what they were doing with the show and I'm sure that didn't help the music at all. Such a waste. But In this DEI filled age where video games are being destroyed thanks to ESG agendas and Marxist nonsense it's not surprising. It's amazing anything creative is allowed to happen at all now since it's not the Communist way.
I pretty heartily disagree that his show is "less than nothing" compared to Shore. It's tackling LOTR from a very different angle, much less broad strokes in the manner of Shore's. And therein it's magnificent. In most ways I prefer hands down, despite my love of the Shore scores (or at least, the themes). I also don't agree that it's not helping the show. I'm with you on the quality of the show but I think the big exception is his music, which is doing all it can sell an otherwise very mediocre show.
I think it's convenient boogeyman to blame everything on the DEI / cultural marxism (and I'm no fan of either). At minimum I think we're seeing the growth pains of non-Hollywood companies trying to get into Hollywood. The only thing they really have is money, so it's going to fumble a bit to start.