Just my thoughts here... A "Steins Gate" world line refers to(theoretically at least, but proven by 1.048596β) any world line that, regardless of where it is designated within an Attractor Field, lies between two Attractor Fields thereby effectively cancelling out their respective causal influences(eg: See Steins:Gate true Ending). 2. 0's Okabe was only able to reach that conclusion by brute forcing open a Beta World Line that would allow just the right conditions for his past, or rather, the first game's, self to reach the True End via a long series of D-Mails sent to several parties all at once and at different points in the "past". The other issue was 0's Mayuri and Suzuha. Namely their retrieval from the botched 2011 depaeture(See Vega and Altair). The goals of Operation Skuld, Operation Aquila(Arc Light), and Operation Altair would take 14 years and the development of yet another time machine(FG-C193. The "first" time machine). However, 2 other keys were needed. 1. Kagari herself, who seems unique to the Beta Attractor Field but whose existence is very much a necessary trigger/anomaly. 2. The D-Rine 0's okabe would later recieve from the 1st 0 branch world line(Kurisu's ending). Both of these were just as crucial to allowing 0's True End as it was for all of those hoops experienced in 0 to allow the past Okabe to finally reach the Steins Gate. A similar case would be within the Alpha Attractor Field and Okabe. SERN purposely released Okabe in order to allow his founding the Valkyries and preserve the history they knew. Same idea. A feat only possible through an artificial form of Reading Steiner that SERN has in the Alpha lines. Skip to 2025---The date Okabe should die. By creating the Milky Way Crossing world line, he forced open an option that was Operation Altair(The same case as the alternate 2036 Okabe would later time leap from despite having "died" in 2025---See Kurisu Ending) That just leaves what happened to 0's Okabe, Suzuha and Mayuri. They *cannot* return to the Beta world line. That would effectively undo all their hard work. This then could infer. 1. Their arrival in a world line within an Attractor field with a Divergence value 5 or above whose causal ends(convergence points) are unknown. 2. Their arrival in Attractor Fields whose Divergence values fall at -1 or below. Cases 1 and 2 naturally will exclude any and all world lines within the Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, and Omega Attractor Fields unless explicitly proven otherwise or--- (simplicity's sake and to exclude "known" variables) 3. They arrive in a "Steins Gate" world line between 2 other Attractor Fields free of causal influence such that it allows a mutually exclusive outcome not possible within the Attractor Fields it lies between in some point point in the "future" relative to the "past". These outcomes can either be thought of as "one off miracles", or the possible seeds from which a new Attractor Field may be born. (My personal conjecture, but it *should* be possible) A plausible precondition being that they "decieved the world" to reach it. Case 3 could explain certain discrepancies and anomalies unique to 0 outside the plot, namely the insertion of Kagari into the Beta Attractor Field from somewhere completely outside any other known world lines or Attractor Fields via the condition that the world itself was successfully tricked so as to avoid(at least on the surface) any deviations to "fate" as dictated by any given Attractor Field's world line convergence points. Another factor to consider for case 3 to apply would be that at least 2 normally mutually exclusive outcomes must "occur" yet be "negated". For example. 1. Okabe Rintarou sees Makise Kurisu "dead in a pool of her own blood" *and* Shiina Mayuri must "not be killed at some point in August 2010". But, who really knows.
I've never seen anyone bring up divergence number beyond 5 before. Do you have a source for this? Why 5? And not 2? Between 1 and 2 is already an infinite number of world lines, we don't need such a large number.
Jo Fu 1. Purely hypothetical. No need to nitpick. Besides, why not? 2. Divergence values for Attractor Fields between -0 and 4 have been explored across various media(eg: VNs, drama CDs and other stories like Linear Bound Phenogram which has a story set in world lines 4.456441, 4.456442, 4.493624, 4.493623, 4.530805, and 4.530806%) 3. I simply excluded known Attractor Fields since they are knowns. No real reason to count them since they've been accounted for and explored somewhat. That just left any Attractor Field values that are total unknowns. 4. Again, just *my* thoughts. Not claiming any rightness here. I mean, you could argue for any stray world line really, so long as they provide the right conditions for a behind the scenes cheat---which is fine if you can come up with a scenario that skirts known convergences. I just felt like using totally unknown values for simplicity's sake, that's all.
Ur explanation should blow up my mind but was easy to understand and logical. Btw all those unanswered questions they leave for maybe a steins gate 3 or any extra vn I believe.
Imagine how smart this okabe is like he already knew how to create a time leap by himself of course in this age I wonder if he can create a time machine all by himself even if its a unstable one
Have no idea why people keep saying the OVA and Deja Vu movie is not canon. The OVA and movies was made in collaboration with .5pb, Nitroplus and White Fox studios, the OVA and movie can be considered canon until at least any other official media or game from .5pb and Nitroplus themselves directly deny the events in the OVA and movie. As for a third season, it is possible to do something, given the amount of material. It's just whether they want to do it or not, and whether they can integrate it into the currently established story, smartly. As far as I can see, a third entry to the series could maybe touch on the Committee of 300 and go more in-depth into story. Perhaps link the Steins:Gate World Line, in terms of background events or setting, to that of Robotic;Notes and Chaos;Child. A third entry is not entirely impossible, but quite unlikely. In any case, anyone who enjoyed Steins;Gate have to watch or play Steins;Gate 0. It'll make you appreciate the entire story and how the True Ending was actually achieved. It just adds that much more value to the story. I, myself am waiting for the English version of Steins;Gate Elite to be released. So gonna play the heck out of it and relive the memories. Just my two cents. personal opinion and nothing more. Steins;Gate is and always will be my favorite series. Edit: Only noticed these couple of comments 1 year later, but another of my two cents. - All material can be considered canon, as long as they are from the same publisher/developers/author, etc. They've intended it to be this way in the first place, especially with how much leeway they can play around with the time travel genre. All are canon, so stop trying to put one material above the other, as if the other is trash. If you hate it that much, then you really shouldn't support the series at all.
"Have no idea why people keep saying the OVA and Deja Vu movie is not canon." - The OVA contradicts with the official after story, the Holy Day of Scourge light novel - The movie contradicts with the rules of time travel and worldlines which were established in the anime and in the VN as well.
@@villadavid1997 It also doesn’t fall in line with the material books detailing the events between Steins Gate and Robotic Notes AND contradicts Robotic Notes DaSH. Basically, the movie is a hot mess that existed just to please anime-only watchers.
This is the divergence value of 1.123581%. Maybe this is 1.1235814% while the anime is 1.1235813% due to short haired Kagari and less vibes between Maho and Rintarou.
Neither, this unseen world, at this point, is steins;gate, which is only seen after this d-video reach 2010 Okarin. That's how powerful this ending actually was
I needed it to end on a higher note. Preferably with Okabe and Kurisu having some coffee in the Steins gate world line after they were re united. But i guess they went out on a sombre note to show that this version of Okabe gave up everything to make the happy end we know happened possible.
I wonder if I should watch the anime steins gate 0 or if it would destroy my mood xD I never played the game too so is there a chance that in the anime steins gate 0 he somehow saves kurisu or so ?^^
The video message was about Operation Skuld details, which would she later explains the details to the 2010 Okabe, after he failed to save Kurisu once. But this plan was totally dependant on Okabe's success on saving Mayuri and Suzuha. Why in the original true ending of SG she can't remember the D-Mail, and why Mayuri isn't with Suzuha in the time machine in 2010, you ask? Because at that time when she receives the d-mail, because of the world line shift, she would never remember receiving the video and the gap between 2010 and 2011 would totally change, as they would already reached the Steins Gate.
@@soul8985 pretty sure it was to 2011 Suzuha, the one from the Arc Light operation. Suzuha was supposed to tell Her past self and Past Mayuri about the video and not to allow Okabe to give up. They are merely repeating the steps to ensure they don’t alter the worldline in an unforeseen way.
@@shreshtchavan980 Well for Suzuha and Mayuri they supposely return to 2025, but this Suzuha that went to 18000 BC with Mayuri doesn’t really have any place to go back to, as she is basically the Suzuha that failed to motivate Okabe to go back one more time to save Kurisu and her wordline stops there, u also can notice she is replaced by this kid Suzuha while 0 Okabe was recording the video. This kid Suzuha is the one that won’t fail to motivate Okabe and help him reach Steins;Gate, though the other Suzuha that failed could just stick with them in 2025 just until the kid Suzuha in 2036 helps the other Okabe to reach Steins;Gate and then all the war zone stuff becomes like a distant dream to everyone cause Beta wordline will be dead by then. Now as for the 0 Okabe if he went back to 2025 with them he would die as he is destined to die this year in Beta worldline. So we don’t really know, we can only make up theories about it.
"Unlocks after seeing The Promised Rinascimento (“Kurisu” ED) Either start a new game or use a save from before [Closed Epigraph] (12/15 Wed) Don’t use a later save because you receive a RINE message at [Closed Epigraph] (12/15 Wed) shortly after the shrine scene which’s important for the true end. Follow the steps on how to reach Vega and Altair (Mayuri ED) and the true end will happen immediately after Mayuri’s ED. Don’t skip the credits!" Source: unluckyhero.wordpress.com/2016/11/22/steinsgate-0-walkthrough/
dhjebshnd ahjdjuzjs True, and we don't know what happened to 2025 Okabe. Did he find Mayuri and Suzuha and if so, where/when did they end up being? All we have now is the nightmare where Mayuri tells Okabe they're on earth 70M years in the past and will die there, and the spooky fact that 2025 time machine can go 70M years in past or future. I demand new VN/season 3!
dhjebshnd ahjdjuzjs Well that's just sad, all that work and planning and you end up dying in a horrible way. Are those cd dramas in english? What happened to suzuha and to the rescue plan? Sorry to bother you, I just finished SG;0 VN and trying to fill that "empty" feeling with information lol
![Steins;Gate 0 [Vega and Altair] (Final)](/img/n.gif)
They adapted it well even adding in the part where he succeeded.
THEY ADAPTED IT PERFECTLY !!!
And damn the last 3 min
It is perfect way to end this.
@@kenikeni9912 yeah, but more like after Steins gate 0
Steins;Gate is the best franchise i’ve ever watched, it made me cried my heart out from both sadness and happiness 😭
Your pfp :(
The game makes it worse, because in maho's ending it's made clear that Amadeus also has memories from the first game.
@@atoaster9940that's power of love
I loved both the anime and the VN, though in the anime I wished Okabe called Maho by her first name like he does here
sub: "because it sounds cool"
alternate trans: "it doenst mean anything"
Just my thoughts here...
A "Steins Gate" world line refers to(theoretically at least, but proven by 1.048596β) any world line that, regardless of where it is designated within an Attractor Field, lies between two Attractor Fields thereby effectively cancelling out their respective causal influences(eg: See Steins:Gate true Ending).
2. 0's Okabe was only able to reach that conclusion by brute forcing open a Beta World Line that would allow just the right conditions for his past, or rather, the first game's, self to reach the True End via a long series of D-Mails sent to several parties all at once and at different points in the "past".
The other issue was 0's Mayuri and Suzuha. Namely their retrieval from the botched 2011 depaeture(See Vega and Altair).
The goals of Operation Skuld, Operation Aquila(Arc Light), and Operation Altair would take 14 years and the development of yet another time machine(FG-C193. The "first" time machine).
However, 2 other keys were needed.
1. Kagari herself, who seems unique to the Beta Attractor Field but whose existence is very much a necessary trigger/anomaly.
2. The D-Rine 0's okabe would later recieve from the 1st 0 branch world line(Kurisu's ending).
Both of these were just as crucial to allowing 0's True End as it was for all of those hoops experienced in 0 to allow the past Okabe to finally reach the Steins Gate.
A similar case would be within the Alpha Attractor Field and Okabe. SERN purposely released Okabe in order to allow his founding the Valkyries and preserve the history they knew.
Same idea.
A feat only possible through an artificial form of Reading Steiner that SERN has in the Alpha lines.
Skip to 2025---The date Okabe should die.
By creating the Milky Way Crossing world line, he forced open an option that was Operation Altair(The same case as the alternate 2036 Okabe would later time leap from despite having "died" in 2025---See Kurisu Ending)
That just leaves what happened to 0's Okabe, Suzuha and Mayuri.
They *cannot* return to the Beta world line. That would effectively undo all their hard work.
This then could infer.
1. Their arrival in a world line within an Attractor field with a Divergence value 5 or above whose causal ends(convergence points) are unknown.
2. Their arrival in Attractor Fields whose Divergence values fall at -1 or below.
Cases 1 and 2 naturally will exclude any and all world lines within the Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, and Omega Attractor Fields unless explicitly proven otherwise or--- (simplicity's sake and to exclude "known" variables)
3. They arrive in a "Steins Gate" world line between 2 other Attractor Fields free of causal influence such that it allows a mutually exclusive outcome not possible within the Attractor Fields it lies between in some point point in the "future" relative to the "past".
These outcomes can either be thought of as "one off miracles", or the possible seeds from which a new Attractor Field may be born. (My personal conjecture, but it *should* be possible)
A plausible precondition being that they "decieved the world" to reach it.
Case 3 could explain certain discrepancies and anomalies unique to 0 outside the plot, namely the insertion of Kagari into the Beta Attractor Field from somewhere completely outside any other known world lines or Attractor Fields via the condition that the world itself was successfully tricked so as to avoid(at least on the surface) any deviations to "fate" as dictated by any given Attractor Field's world line convergence points. Another factor to consider for case 3 to apply would be that at least 2 normally mutually exclusive outcomes must "occur" yet be "negated".
For example.
1. Okabe Rintarou sees Makise Kurisu "dead in a pool of her own blood" *and* Shiina Mayuri must "not be killed at some point in August 2010".
But, who really knows.
I've never seen anyone bring up divergence number beyond 5 before. Do you have a source for this? Why 5? And not 2? Between 1 and 2 is already an infinite number of world lines, we don't need such a large number.
Jo Fu
1. Purely hypothetical. No need to nitpick. Besides, why not?
2. Divergence values for Attractor Fields between -0 and 4 have been explored across various media(eg: VNs, drama CDs and other stories like Linear Bound Phenogram which has a story set in world lines 4.456441, 4.456442, 4.493624, 4.493623, 4.530805, and 4.530806%)
3. I simply excluded known Attractor Fields since they are knowns. No real reason to count them since they've been accounted for and explored somewhat. That just left any Attractor Field values that are total unknowns.
4. Again, just *my* thoughts.
Not claiming any rightness here. I mean, you could argue for any stray world line really, so long as they provide the right conditions for a behind the scenes cheat---which is fine if you can come up with a scenario that skirts known convergences. I just felt like using totally unknown values for simplicity's sake, that's all.
u mad scientist
UserNumberOne
*FWUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!*
Well... No need to worry about it...
If it helps...
*All is the choice of Steins Gate!*
*EL PSY KONGROO!*
Ur explanation should blow up my mind but was easy to understand and logical. Btw all those unanswered questions they leave for maybe a steins gate 3 or any extra vn I believe.
5:34 equations on the whiteboard is just some high school em theory equations
5:45 This is all I can do
9:02 The world can be deceived
10:30 farewell
12:53 I'm off
14:35 maho
I'm interested in how they're going to do this in the anime..
Well, they did well
@@kyrlio I agree
@@kyrlio Operation Altair
They did it better than the VN in fact
Daniel L listen I’m 8 months in the future he reached mayuri and suzuha
Imagine how smart this okabe is like he already knew how to create a time leap by himself of course in this age I wonder if he can create a time machine all by himself even if its a unstable one
so many Okabe's death flag
Have no idea why people keep saying the OVA and Deja Vu movie is not canon. The OVA and movies was made in collaboration with .5pb, Nitroplus and White Fox studios, the OVA and movie can be considered canon until at least any other official media or game from .5pb and Nitroplus themselves directly deny the events in the OVA and movie.
As for a third season, it is possible to do something, given the amount of material. It's just whether they want to do it or not, and whether they can integrate it into the currently established story, smartly.
As far as I can see, a third entry to the series could maybe touch on the Committee of 300 and go more in-depth into story. Perhaps link the Steins:Gate World Line, in terms of background events or setting, to that of Robotic;Notes and Chaos;Child.
A third entry is not entirely impossible, but quite unlikely.
In any case, anyone who enjoyed Steins;Gate have to watch or play Steins;Gate 0. It'll make you appreciate the entire story and how the True Ending was actually achieved. It just adds that much more value to the story. I, myself am waiting for the English version of Steins;Gate Elite to be released. So gonna play the heck out of it and relive the memories.
Just my two cents. personal opinion and nothing more. Steins;Gate is and always will be my favorite series.
Edit:
Only noticed these couple of comments 1 year later, but another of my two cents.
- All material can be considered canon, as long as they are from the same publisher/developers/author, etc. They've intended it to be this way in the first place, especially with how much leeway they can play around with the time travel genre. All are canon, so stop trying to put one material above the other, as if the other is trash. If you hate it that much, then you really shouldn't support the series at all.
"Have no idea why people keep saying the OVA and Deja Vu movie is not canon."
- The OVA contradicts with the official after story, the Holy Day of Scourge light novel
- The movie contradicts with the rules of time travel and worldlines which were established in the anime and in the VN as well.
we need omega worldline
@@villadavid1997 It also doesn’t fall in line with the material books detailing the events between Steins Gate and Robotic Notes AND contradicts Robotic Notes DaSH.
Basically, the movie is a hot mess that existed just to please anime-only watchers.
@@lenleon3699 Exactly
I think the OVA is the perfect way to end the series currently. I liked the movie's start but the rest was really weird.
15:24 Something happend between Okabe and Maho..... I guess with Kurisu and Mayuri gone this was to be expected.
This is the divergence value of 1.123581%. Maybe this is 1.1235814% while the anime is 1.1235813% due to short haired Kagari and less vibes between Maho and Rintarou.
It is!
No, they are the same. Those are just minor contradictions, and the Maho and Okabe scene were shortened because of the time limit.
I'm CRYING.
I lovee this showw
The sadness came after its ending Q^Q
"and go to the world which are still unseen" = Possible Gamma and Omega worldline game/anime?
Neither, this unseen world, at this point, is steins;gate, which is only seen after this d-video reach 2010 Okarin. That's how powerful this ending actually was
There are drama cds i hope they grt adapted
No. The "unseen world" is Steins;Gate
"sobs"
Loved the game, but this ending felt.. lacking.. incomplete? idk.. something was off
I totally agree. I felt it was a bit rushed and needed more to it..cause there were so many questions unanswered.
I needed it to end on a higher note. Preferably with Okabe and Kurisu having some coffee in the Steins gate world line after they were re united. But i guess they went out on a sombre note to show that this version of Okabe gave up everything to make the happy end we know happened possible.
I wonder if I should watch the anime steins gate 0 or if it would destroy my mood xD I never played the game too so is there a chance that in the anime steins gate 0 he somehow saves kurisu or so ?^^
I too think this, maybe writers want to write some new stuff to explain the unanswered questions...
this ending makes me sad, cuz our favorite mad scientist won't meet our favorite loli scientist );
nah, he will
it just hasn't happened in the Steins;Gate world line yet
Super late but material books and details from Robotic Notes DaSH suggest Okabe went to America and thus met Maho properly again.
@@lenleon3699 can u plzz provide the link of those proofs..
I thought OKabe is not in the R; N DaSH.
@@backdoorguy1 He wasn't directly in the game, but he was mentioned by Daru! You can look up his wiki page, it should be somewhere on there
don't worry Okabe will meet Maho soon.
So the sequel of the perffect ending is a prequel... Cuz time travel... But it is in some way sequel... Cuz time travel. is cofusing...
Cool!
Does anyone know what does 5:20 mean? When did Suzuha received the video message and what the effects in the plot?
The video message was about Operation Skuld details, which would she later explains the details to the 2010 Okabe, after he failed to save Kurisu once. But this plan was totally dependant on Okabe's success on saving Mayuri and Suzuha. Why in the original true ending of SG she can't remember the D-Mail, and why Mayuri isn't with Suzuha in the time machine in 2010, you ask? Because at that time when she receives the d-mail, because of the world line shift, she would never remember receiving the video and the gap between 2010 and 2011 would totally change, as they would already reached the Steins Gate.
bruh that's was a long one lol
@@soul8985 hahaha thankyou btw
@@soul8985 is there any posibility for new steins gate adaption
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Because it still has sufficient materials
@@soul8985 pretty sure it was to 2011 Suzuha, the one from the Arc Light operation. Suzuha was supposed to tell Her past self and Past Mayuri about the video and not to allow Okabe to give up. They are merely repeating the steps to ensure they don’t alter the worldline in an unforeseen way.
Can someone explain me what happens to Suzuha and Mayuri after that? Which year do they return to and what happens to okabe after that?
Satania yeah i watched..but didnt get one thing that whether all three return back to 2025 or it is just mayuri and suzuha
@@shreshtchavan980 Well for Suzuha and Mayuri they supposely return to 2025, but this Suzuha that went to 18000 BC with Mayuri doesn’t really have any place to go back to, as she is basically the Suzuha that failed to motivate Okabe to go back one more time to save Kurisu and her wordline stops there, u also can notice she is replaced by this kid Suzuha while 0 Okabe was recording the video. This kid Suzuha is the one that won’t fail to motivate Okabe and help him reach Steins;Gate, though the other Suzuha that failed could just stick with them in 2025 just until the kid Suzuha in 2036 helps the other Okabe to reach Steins;Gate and then all the war zone stuff becomes like a distant dream to everyone cause Beta wordline will be dead by then. Now as for the 0 Okabe if he went back to 2025 with them he would die as he is destined to die this year in Beta worldline. So we don’t really know, we can only make up theories about it.
How to get this ending
"Unlocks after seeing The Promised Rinascimento (“Kurisu” ED)
Either start a new game or use a save from before [Closed Epigraph] (12/15 Wed)
Don’t use a later save because you receive a RINE message at [Closed Epigraph] (12/15 Wed) shortly after the shrine scene which’s important for the true end.
Follow the steps on how to reach Vega and Altair (Mayuri ED) and the true end will happen immediately after Mayuri’s ED. Don’t skip the credits!"
Source: unluckyhero.wordpress.com/2016/11/22/steinsgate-0-walkthrough/
So in other words there is a possibility of Third Season. :D
I hope so, it would be n i c e!
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Well the complete ending is the true ending in the Steins Gate VN so it's not incomplete. So there's really no point in another Steins Gate.
dhjebshnd ahjdjuzjs the steins gate movie is basically around that idea
dhjebshnd ahjdjuzjs
True, and we don't know what happened to 2025 Okabe. Did he find Mayuri and Suzuha and if so, where/when did they end up being?
All we have now is the nightmare where Mayuri tells Okabe they're on earth 70M years in the past and will die there, and the spooky fact that 2025 time machine can go 70M years in past or future. I demand new VN/season 3!
dhjebshnd ahjdjuzjs
Well that's just sad, all that work and planning and you end up dying in a horrible way. Are those cd dramas in english? What happened to suzuha and to the rescue plan? Sorry to bother you, I just finished SG;0 VN and trying to fill that "empty" feeling with information lol