Finally! Another Option... Spend Less Get More! RSL Speedwoofer ii review
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Whatever your takes vs what your sponsors would like you to say, but that you don't say if not just to please them once in a while (a man has to put steak on his table, and I've learned to read those cues between the lines and that you give in those occasions), that CGI intro is awesome! 👍
Owner and operator of a REPAIRED SpeedWoofer. It failed after the warranty (plate amps generally suck) I called while they were getting around to making the MK II. They shipped me, for free, a new amp. The son was my phone buddy and he was great.
I feel like I joined a family.... at a very reasonable cost.
I had the same issue with my amp. They trouble shot with no questions asked. Quickly shipped me a new amp and stayed on the phone with me with instructions to replace it. Customer service is top notch.
@@CandBLawnCare I had a Velodyne that weighed over a hundred pounds and it ate amps. They don't do in-home repairs. When the 'philes' are talking about this crap, they don't consider failure and repair and replacement often.
I had a Sherwood Micro-CPU FM (only) tuner. When it worked it was at the top of the heap. It became a $2,000 anchor in 1984. After my Maritn Logans Aeriuses crapped out, I decided to go tried and true tech with NO maintenance issues.
Same experience for me. Amazing!
I just ordered a Speed woofer 10 S Mark II and it is in route to me. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas! Thanks for your great review.
Thanks, Randy! I've had my 10s for two years and love it every day. Thanks for the review and keep up the good work!
Great intro cinematic! Thank you so much for this great review. I shall certainly look into purchasing this speaker in the future. Your time and effort is, as always, greatly appreciated. Stay well and all the best.
Love the video entry of the building stuck by lightning and coming down. Probably assisted with the slam of the subwoofer.
Thanks for the great review. For $150 less I decided to go with this over the svs sb1000 pro and ordered through your link!
I have the Speedwoofer 10s MKII and love it in my bedroom two channel setup. It's from the first run of the new model and RSL offered it for the old model price, so I am a happy customer. I don't feel like I'm missing anything meaningful when they offer great sound, features (wireless built in, LFE, high level inputs, RCA inputs, RCA daisy chaining, variable phase control, and DSP), and great customer service!. I don't feel a need for an app nor do I want one more thing tethered to my phone.
Can't wait till the 12S comes out! I have 2 10S mkii's and they hit hard and are great!! They are always sold out, I believe I had to wait a month n a half or something close. Definitely worth the wait!! Get one or 2 and u won't regret it folks. Hope you test the 12S when it's released finally! It has a remote and various settings for movies, music etc...it looks promising for sure!!!
I have a pair of them! Slightly older front ported 10s and the new MkII. They work well together and will rip your guts out! Movies and music are at another level. I did purchase the wireless transmitter but I think my positioning was negatively impacting it and was somewhat hard to pair to two different era speakers. I ditched it and put them in the same corner of the room and the dead spots are pretty much non-existent now and they are so tight and can really reach low especially with a pair of them. I can also attest to the fact that it's accurate. I believe it is the RSL signature waveguide that makes the sub act like a sealed enclosure while also boosting those lows and SPL with the port. Also the port is quiet so these suckers whether it's the older front facing or the rear facing seem crazy accurate. Love it!
Got my 10s II 2-4-2023 I love it.
I am a big fan of RSL. I have had a couple pair of vintage RSL‘s. I currently on the Nevada speakers. Still sound great after 30 years.
These are simply the best value in subwoofers at the $450 price point. They are fast and produce deep accurate high quality bass. I bought two last year and run them off the speaker level inputs and my system improved to a level that made me regret not implementing dual subs from the beginning of my journey. Anyone that purchases these will be happy. Nemo Propaganda also did an excellent review of these.
Thanks Randy for taking a look at them.
Bass
I think the rythmik L12 is another good value option. 12 inch sealed driver with 14hz extension for 600$
They are absolutely a great sub. I've got dual Starke SW-15's on the way that may best them in the value department @ $500/ea. on sale BOGO.
@@Believeintimetravelthose prices look unbeatable on there now I want to hear those that are under 700
Thanks for the info. I pre-ordered one and will also be using the speaker level inputs. I was wondering if I would be missinng the deeper extension offered in lfe mode.
Like all your videos I had to watch it twice. Real good info. Good to know options available that don’t break the bank. Look forward to users thoughts. Thank you Randy.
Waited for months during the pandemic for a mk1 with wireless. Almost cancelled the order, glad I didn’t. RSL was great with updates and no questions asked refunds. These are quick and tight as others have said and works great in a two channel setup paired with Elac DBR62.
Hey Randy! For someone who acknowledges they move and change speaker configs regularly I'm surprised you didn't appreciate SVS's setup app more. In my use case, I use more than one speaker setup in my listening room (basically small vs. large) and can setup, store and recall different configs for each using the SVS app. Also, to get the best setup possible as efficiently as possible, I pass a test tone to the both the main and subs centered on the desired crossover frequency and then sit in my listening chair with a decibel meter and tweak the phase of the subs from the SVS app until the meter maxes out. My small speakers' crossover is 80Hz and phase is 35 degrees. The large speakers' crossover is 60 and phase is 80 degrees. Lot simpler to toggle between them on my phone than crawling around to change settings on the back -- even more important when you have two subs (SB1000 Pro's) like I do. As always, I appreciate your work and will remain a patron.
Awesome intro. The wife and I laughed our socks off at that! Brilliant.
Awesome opening sequence. The sub looks pretty good too!
So far I'm loving my RSL Speedwoofer. I have it set up with L/C/R of the RSL W25E in walls running on a Denon S760. Going to add some C34E's to try out 5.1.2 in the next few weeks.
Love your new intro - the building demolition! Very Metal
I always heard good things about this brand but never used them. A few weeks ago I purchased their in-ceiling speakers to use for my atmos setup and I am pretty happy with them. I will be replacing some Def Tech 9004 towers in my living room at some point and may look to RSL for a 2.1 or 3.1 setup.
Didn't really feel the bass in our home theater until I repurposed a couple old Rockford fosgate 15" car subs (HX2) from the 90's and connected them to a crown XLS 2002. 1050w RMS per sub with a 2ohm load on each channel of the amp.
I pre ordered it based on your review. It arrived a couple of weeks ago and I love it!! Thanks for posting the vid!!!!
of course
HOLY INTRO Batman! Love It!! Randy, You're becoming quite the pro! All the best, Kevin
Found you at the perfect time! Based on this video I ordered this sub and love it! Thanks for showing out to set it up! Now I’m comparing the Elac corina to evo 4.1 evos I like much better than my Polk r100s
Excited for the speaker review!
RSL FTW. I have 2 OG Speedwoofer 10S in my system. I also have 2 CG25s to round out my 2.2 setup. It's an excellent combo. I drive them with a Cambridge Audio CXA81 and a Willsenton R8 tube amp. The CG25 and Speed woofers work great with both. I also use the Wireless transmitter to connect the subs. That works great as well.
Do you use speaker connection or traditional sub-out? Have you tried both? Thoughts? I am running an Onkyo RZ50.
I have this subwoofer and it is awesome and I just got the new speedwoofer 12s, 500w rms 1,500 peak and goes down to 16hz anechoic which is the big brother that is awesome! It's really big but it's got the power and they've bass extension that you just can't believe. Effortless Bass
This company has been everywhere after I started researching options for a sub to add to my 2 channel system. I was looking at a SVS SB-1000 pro to begin with until I got wind of the RSL 10s. RSL quoted for the 10s and shipping to Western Australia only $60 more than it costs to buy a PB-1000 pro here and to my understanding the RSL out performs it in every respect apart from the app, looks and size( if you value any of those things). This will be my first proper sub and very exited to see how it will sound with some edifier s3000 pro bookshelves. Fingers crossed I can snag one!
I can attest to the RSL’s as I have two of the 10s’s in our HTR.
They do not disappoint us
What size room are you working with?
I specified two, count 'em, of these in my friends basement home theater. Their affordable wireless solution sealed the deal. Awesome bass, reasonable prices. "nuff said.
i just preordered one it looks awesome
Just bought a HSU Research VTF-2 MK5. Another manufacturer everyone seems to speak very highly of. Very excited to receive it and integrate into my 5.1 setup.
Any update? It's sold out now.
@@Idiotsincarshere No regrets. Sounds awesome!
@@KickDrumKid23 Sweet! I'm starting my hifi journey and found one used for $500. Also found an RSL speed woofer for $290 with slight damage that doesn't really bother me. The journey is fun!
Im signed up for the waiting list on one of these. Can't wait!!
Love the opening!
Ive been running two of the original Speedwoofers for years in my home theater. They work amazingly well together.
The new intro is pretty slick!
Decent review. I have 2 10smk2 and 1 10smk1. Love there products. Can't wait to here your review on there bookshelf speakers. Not many reviews of the loudspeakers exist on the interwebs, so spend some time on editing and make it a good one.
Just got mine. Very nice. Gonna line cabinet w/ No Rez, as it does vibrate a bit. But outstanding sound for the money. Using w/ Merlin TSM-MME that are run full range. I may build some passive hi pass filters using really high end caps down the road. BTW: those cheap inline filters from Amazon are a waste of money. I suspected as much but bought anyway. Came back out of rig within minutes of listening.
Got 2, love at first sound !
I'd love to see more budget subwoofer reviews. Feels like there's lots of speaker reviews but few for subs.
Love the new intro!
Hey, got my PSA test done and it came back normal!
No Rez takes to another level. Cutting out cabinet vibration cleans up the sound. Still not totally dead (like my Merlins) but a worthy upgrade.
Digging your new intro Randy!
Randy! Check this out! There's a simple tweak to double your sub's output (3 dB boost). No. I'm not joking. I spoke to the nice folks at SVS (call them and ask them yourself), and they confirmed a way I found to gain 3 dB of output. It's something that I stumbled across when tinkering with my subs:
If you use BOTH RCA plugs (i.e. left AND right, as opposed to only the single LFE input), then you will gain 3 dB of output. Double your output, with a single plug. If you've got a mono subwoofer cable, get a one female to two male RCA cable Y adapter, and use both L and R inputs. The reason? Simple. You double your INPUT gain, so you double your OUTPUT. Cheapest and easiest subwoofer tweak EVER. Try it. You can thank me later. 👍
Lol??
You're so right!
Thank U for a good review .
wow. new intro. cool. although i like the original retro tune. i sort of miss the last few notes after you switched to the rock ending, lol. Now, onto the video...
Raaandayyyy! about RSL, they are a SoCal company based in the San Fernando Valley where Howard Rodgers, the dad, successfully marketed knock-off JBL monitor style speakers at very reasonable prices. they weren't to my liking as i wasn't fond of the JBL sound. i was more into the Infinity and Dahlquist plus other flatter, less efficient speakers nor did i like the horn-based Klipsch (still not my bag) but i recognized the value and it got a lot of kids started into audio. starting with one location, RSL blossomed into a small chain of stores, one of which had a department called U
I own an RSL Speedwoofer II. I asked the company about a configuration where I shared the subwoofer between a 2-channel music system in my dining room home theater system in my living in an open concept living space. The company reached out to try to help me troubleshoot the setup. I didn't end up sounding the way I wanted with my 2-channel setup, so it's on full-time HT duty (sounds great) but I was thrilled by the level of customer care they provide.
It’s at the point where I watch Randy for entertainment, rather than audio buying advice, but that’s perfectly fine. Gives me something to do while I’m relaxing and enjoying my cup of coffee. 👍
Plus, hearing about “new” cheap hobby products is interesting . now that I’m an old dinosaur, people like Randy make my day lol
Well thank you!
@@cheapaudioman 👍Well, your welcome there CAM. Idk what kind of commissions they pay you, but I did get a few things on Amazon based on your recommendations, for example, the Elac BS41’s, a couple of WiiM mini units, and a Topping E50 DAC to name a few.
I always do appreciate your efforts regardless, so I hope and pray your business arrangements are working out for you. These days I’m essentially the FAM (Frugal Audio Man). That said, whenever I run into a situation where I need a piece of audio equipment,
I won’t hesitate to do whatever it takes to get it working or replace it.😉.. since I have some vintage stuff and it’s all in service, I never know when I’m going to need an amplifier or whatever; I don’t currently have to change any cables, recap anything, change any phono styli, or fix any speaker driver or crossover.. yay👍
It must get friggin’ hot over there where you live, and we’re about to get to “those” months.
Me too,.
Nice SFX at the lead-in, Chief! (and "excursions" is one of the more ridiculous jargon I've heard that DIDN'T come out of D.C.!)
Nice new intro ! Keep up the good work. I don't see there anything wrong with having premium gear from time to time if it is worth a mention a la Denafrips Aries, Elac unifi reference etc. May not be cheap, but plenty worth the investment for those who truly identify as "HiFi Enthusiasts". Randy should be re-labelled as the Affordable Audio Man (Destroyer of buildings).
Bro! Awesome intro!!
Thanks!
I purchased a 10s Mk II about a year ago and have been very happy with it. I delayed purchasing a sub for years as my main speakers do quite well with bass. So I was pleasantly surprised when the bass (especially with movies) became fuller and deeper and not localized. I set the crossover at 60hz and that relieves much of the bass burden on the AVR and mains. At 450, it's a steal! The preorder process is acceptable to me for a company that works hard to bring top value for buck and relies on word of mouth advertising rather than incessant Internet ads (svs). Oh.. musically the RSL doesn't disappoint either!
Full deja vu moment right at the beginning. I think it is really widely conceived in the community how loyal rsls fans are. I think it was dms who said something similar, not about how good rsl is but about the fanbase
Nicely done, gents.
I want too get two rsl 12" subwoofers for my basement.. i was thinking two rhythmik 15" subwoofers not sure yet those get lots of love as well.. but i think 12" will be perfect size that wont take up too much space them rhythmiks look huge ..
Have you done a video with their RSL surround speaker set up?
Thanks for the review! I'm building a system with Klipsch bookshelf speakers, but am thinking of going with this sub for space reasons. What is the 12" Klipsch sub that you might replace with this one?
I've wanted to try one for many years now, but without a minidsp or dirac/rew I can't go without the PEQ that SVS offers. No way I could go back to not having dsp/peq options
Listening to this on my pc from a Fosi TB10D (remake) and Klipsch R-50M (waiting on a review for these newer bookshelves.) Love the sound. like most Klipsch of the size they are lacking some bottom end. I think I found the sub to complete the system. (minus a usb DAC. High end MOBO with one of the best built in DACs so its not as important at the moment)
My question is, do you plan on getting into PC audio and differences in MOBO Built in sound cards? seems a fairly Niche area though so no sweat!
I had the same opinion of the SVS being underpowered until I got it put in the right place and got the phase adjusted right. Now I have way more power than I need. The RSL is monotone in my opinion.
I'm seriously considering this sub. I love all the extra control and inputs/outputs that most in this class lack... and its only 10" (holds its weight against many 12" subs). It also extends upwards of 160 Hz with pretty flat response... a good pairing with my good bookshelf speakers I use for my mains and surrounds. Lack of app... That has no impact for me. Once dialed in, it will stay setup as-is.
Love your new intro! Lol
Please try a hsu subwoofer. I believe they take the cake for high quality next to rythmik or psa and they are budget friendly compared to those brands at $560ish for one.
I didn't "feel" the bass in my music until i got a SB3000. Had a SB2000, but there's a world of difference stepping up. Totally changes the listening experience for the better. The low end just keeps staying strong. Haven't heard this one, but it would interesting to hear comparisons as you review more subs.
I have a SB2000pro. Now it's a good sub, better than some others I tried, and I couldn't live without the PEQ unless I have a minidsp or Dirac with a sub..but the 2000 doesn't give that low end that stays strong like you mentioned. So the 3000 is that much better?
The ported PB2000 it can be very good value too, I recently picked up two PB2000's for $500/ea on the SVS outlet, I find them to be pretty fast and punchy after tuning with REW/MiniDSP. But they are primarily for movies which they really slam in a mid size treated room.
@PleesJakMeHof the tone of the 3k is just deeper and stronger, giving a more premium, live, professional, expensive, overall better feel to the music. Its not just volume, it sounds better at the same volume.
I don't disagree with your results, but I will add that if you have the PB 2000 Pro, you can simply plug the ports with their port tuning feature, thereby giving yourself a sealed 2000 series sub, and with a larger enclosure, no less. Best of both worlds. I've got a pair of them, and after having all the adjustment controls (PEQ, etc.) accessible from my phone (read: my comfy seat in the sweet spot), I just can't go back. If I'd had more cash on hand, I would've gotten the 3000 series, but hey...one does what one can.
I went from a sb1000pro to a sb3000. It was like going from little league to the MLB. Tight, accurate, fast. It's amazing.
I seriously think I'm going to be grabbing RSL speakers for my first true HT set up. I've heard nothing but great things about their products!!
You will not be sorry. While you're at it get the wireless transmitter to connect to your amp, and you don't have to run a cable to it... (Wireless receiver is built into the sub.)
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@@littlegti84 sorry, just contemplating the wireless part. 😁
Highly recommend them. I've gone from 2 CG3/CG23 and 10S to 3 CG25, 2 CG3 rear and a 10S +10SII. Waiting to order the 12S to replace the original speedwoofer. They're all great.
Hey Randy. You should do a review on the Aiyima DAC-A1. I've been using it for a few months. Seems like a great super cheap DAC / Digital preamp too me. No idea what someone that has heard more DACs to compare with would think. I'd be curious.
which mode were you running the sub in for most of your testing? can you/ anyone speak at all about the difference heard between the two modes? running speaker level inputs I think I can only use music mode.
Zu audio also produces in batches.
Thanks for the review, have a question, would you take the rsl speedwoofer 10 or the Starke sound sw12, I'm can't decide on which one to buy?
This sub is amazing! I have it paired with some Emotiva B2+ and it is great for both music and movies.
Excellent! It delivers the goods! Having high quality bass is one of those things - once you have heard it, you really don't want to be without it.
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@@cheapaudioman really great to know.that kind of thru me thru the loop as i didnt think the whole emoji thing was consistant with CAM to begin with!
Sold out!
Their 12” speedwoofer looks promising.
I just got it and it's big but it sounds incredible
Per the website there’s a $50 return fee. Not too sure if that’s standard in the industry but if performs well at a great price they might not have the margins for a lot of returns.
SVS is currently selling the regular SB 1000 for $399. Which would you prefer now? I like clean/quick base, but for me bass isn't necessarily the be all and end all.
The best subwoofer integration room response is when it really doesn't call attention to itself.
The speedwoofer is the bomb!!!!
Never heard RSL, but when I wanted to add a 3rd sub for the rear (some bump in the trunk), I did not wish to to buy another SVS PB1000 Pro (because of the price alone), so I picked up the Monolith by Monoprice 10in THX for $499, and I must say I am still impressed 9 months later with what comes out of that sub for a $500 10". I can only imagine the RSL being the same way.
Monolith 10 inch is superior to this one hands down. Hdf, thx certified, XLR, 500w amp , heavier build at 75 pounds ish .. and I bet the driver is better too.
This is not a bad value but I don't see it dethrone the monoprice monoliths 😊
@@MichelLinschoten do you actually own the monolith 10”?
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What are you using or recommend for a home theater receiver these days?
Been a minute since you mentioned home theater audio. Lol.
I love the way the manual is written, especially the part warning against buying expensive audio cables. However, I think what they actually have here is just a variant on a bandpass enclosure. Not saying it's not legitimate, just that it's not all that new.
The excursion and powerful amplifier are big plusses. The amp being more powerful than many larger woofers means more definition and bass excursion when needed.
share a wall with my neighbor but really want to add this sub, any reccomendations to keep this from bleeding through the walls so much?
About time, Randy😛....I have 3 Speedwoofers, 1 MKII and 2 MKI. I only use 2 at a time in my small room. The MKII is an improvement over the MKI...deeper extension and more output. Just ordered a new white MKII to match up with the other one.....now, what do I do with the two MKI's ? I could sell them in a heartbeat, but hate to part with them.
How would you set the crossover if you don't have the capability on your mains? It looks like the crossover on the back only applies to the input but the outputs are all line level. I'm running out of an apollo x6 and unfortunately there's no capability of running multiple simultaneous outs and setting the crossover in the software?
Hi ! would it be an upgrade from an emotiva se12 ? I found mine to lack a bit of speed for some genres (mostly fast double drums and extreme metal in general)
Never ever experienced to have to use max gain. Do you only conmect to the single channel LFE output or do you use a Y-splitter to connect to both inputs? Because that has ALOT to do on most subs. I never just use the single LFE input. That sucks
I need a new subwoofer (mine is now humming, I used to be able to jiggle the cord to stop it but now it is always humming). I don't think I can afford an RSL one though. I'm thinking of getting a Yamaha NS-SW280. My current one is 70w and is too big for my setup so a 50w one should be perfect
luv mine
ye man had to do that with zu speakers. the jury is still out on that deal.
What kind of whiskey do you prefer in your coffee?
Dear owners, when using speaker level inputs, does it apply a HPF to the speakers?
holy intro batman
I use two different sized subs in my system. I think the smaller one gives better articulation and the big one better extension.
What an awesome idea! That idea never even crossed my mind. Do you run them with the same crossover point?
@@greenbeginner3353 I have a 12 inch set at 60Hz and one that has dual 8 inch drivers in a push-pull configuration set at 80Hz
Hi Jeff, could you elaborate? I'm not sure what you mean with articulation / extension? I'm interpreting it as: Articulation being the speed and tightness of the bass notes and extension the more boomy goes lower part? So you combine it to get both clean feel and punch and it punches deeper?
@@danielh12345 Yes, the larger sub has more low down SPL, while the smaller one is faster yet both are rated 3 dB down at 27 Hz.
Keep the big sub and measure it. I'll bet it has some sudden changes in frequency response in your room leading to high group delay and therefore mushy 'slow' sound. I run four 15" subs that are flat to 10hz in room (not actually that hard to do btw) and they are tight as heck. Summary? Tuning is everything!
where is the grill? What does it look like with the grill on?
When do we get a rsl speaker review?
Hmm svs pb1000 pro ported or the speedwoofer 12s sealed for movies?
Rsl10s mkii vs Starke sw12,which of the two is your choice?based on your reviews.thanks for your answer.❤