Unleash the Bass Monster: RSL Speed Woofer 12S Review - High Performance at a Steal!
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The video review takes an in-depth look at the RSL Speed Woofer 12S, providing a comprehensive overview of its specs, build, and performance. At a price of $799, this 12-inch subwoofer with a 500-watt RMS amplifier offers impressive bass response, going down to 16Hz, and comes with features like four DSP presets and a physical remote control. While highlighting the monstrous sound and remarkable value, the review also points out some cons, such as a large enclosure and lack of app control, and compares the subwoofer to alternatives in the market, ultimately endorsing it as an attractive option for audio enthusiasts.
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Ive been using two of the 10 inch speed woofers in my condo theater for years.They are small but powerful. If I switched to these I would either get kicked out or my floor would collapse into downstairs unit
The fact that this sub has far better specs in driver alone compared to 2x the price Klipsch's 16" crappy driver is legendary. Not to mention the almost tline/voigt pipe like port design. What more can you ask. I like that the finish is cheap as they didn't waste even a single penny in looks department.
I haven't looked into the Klipsch subs. Are you referring to the new ones?
@@joentell yeah new ones.
@@datdudeinred even the old ones are crappy. Klipsch does not make good subwoofers at all
@@joentell It sounds like he's talking about the newest Klipsch 16" that was on sale for around $1500 a couple weeks ago. Coincidentally, RSL was running a sale for two 12S for the same price. People underestimate how cone size increases area and think two 12" equals more output than a single 16".
I still think the RSL 12S is a better value. Especially when you compare something like the Paradigm X12. Sure it comes with advanced DSP and a microphone, and slightly better build quality. But you're still only getting a 12" driver with 150 more watts for double the price.
I have an RSL and love it so much that I’m getting a second one.
Man I had 2 10S and added this into the mix and holy shit, this thing is literally makes it feel like the floorboards are shaking. The 2 10S were killer but man they're a joke compared to the low end on this.
I have this sub after upgrading from the 10S mk2. This is my forever subwoofer.
Bass Hits incredibly hard and low and beats my SVD PB 2000 Pro.
Wow 123db flat to 20hz! What a beast
Great Review
I think your subwoofer reviews are the Gold Standard, you give just the right amount of information and the photography is great, No guess work, you can really see the product in all it’s glory.
Nice work!!
Thank you! I appreciate you. I liked the way this one came out. A step up would be if I could do some CTA2010 testing to see how loud these can play at various frequencies.
These are some really good subwoofers . These aren't that big for the performance you get.
This RSL 12 S is quite amazing so amazing that I’m getting a second one!!!
They came out with that monster right after I bought my 2nd 10 from them. I'm not disappointed. The waveguide tech makes amazingly clean bass movies to music. RSL knows what they are doing and they keep the design minimal enough to work for anyone while keeping cost out of the least important part and putting it into the sound. Amazing speakers.
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I’d really like to see what these guys can do with a 15” or 18”
Don't give them any ideas! 😁
Someone asked the current ceo dude idk his name he’s the leader rn about a 15 and he said maybe in the future but they don’t want to rush anything and want the time to make sure it’s the best it can be
First time with one of your review, it was very good, looks a nice subwoofer, XLR would have been a good option, even if I cost slightly more
Emotiva Airmotiv XS12 for $549 a great sub is 90 Pounds HDF box, rear slot port on bottom. XLR input and output and Amplifier should be high quality as it's Emotiva.
I won't recommend putting the macbook right on top of beasts like these. I know almost everything is solid state inside but any connection can get loose & short circuit then there will be super expensive apple service because you can't do anything on macbooks.
I hear you. I used to run a computer service business and I would've never considered doing this if I had an old HDD drive in there. Nowadays, the only thing that moves are the fans and the speakers. Everything else is solid state. Apple is pretty good at taping down cables that could possibly come loose.
Love mine and so does my wife. So that’s always a win ,can’t wait to get another speedwoofer 12s. Best value and performance for the money msrp hands down
2 of them! That's gonna be awesome!
I'd like to challenge that statement. Periodically SVS has their older PB2000's for $599. Just as deep extension and sound quality...for $200 less.
@@ryanschipp8513 lol no bro think again have you heard the rsl speedwoofer 12s ?? I’ve heard the pb2000 and people that have the pb2000 pro say the 12s blows it out of the water I had a sb3000 and got rid of it because it sucked and that isn’t msrp that’s close out prices bash amps also suck
@@danemoreno88 ok Dane...you know more than Audioholics. Certified Large Bassaholics rating. It's pretty obvious you are a RSL fanboy since you already have one. I'm sure it's great. But your statement of it's the best value hands down is incorrect. I have a pair of SVS pb-2000 and they sound phenomenal. RSL is late to the game. SVS and monolith beat them to the punch and now rsl is making something that's essentially the same thing.
@@danemoreno88 You are digging yourself a hole...."bro". No BASH amp in the PB2000's. You should probably ✋️.
Use to have RSL speakers back in the day,they made really good speakers 30 years ago.
The measurements correlate with what JoeNTell hears. And they sound great. Large box!?!?! Depends on your idea of large😂😅.Best value for the price honestly ❤❤🔥🔥
The 12" driver looks like an 8" in that enclosure. 😁
@@joentell it does but you know me I am into 18, 21 and 24 with refrigerator size enclosures🤣😅
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 That's what's up! Gotta have the space for it. If I had a way to hide the subs, I would go crazy with it. Or maybe just have a bunch of 15's all around.
@@keepingupwiththejones2933lol same here. Just received my JTR 4000ULF yesterday, to go along with my Cap 2400. Which subs are you running in your HT?
Wife was in the bathroom on the other side of the house when i was testing this sub out. She got really mad. Said it was shaking the windows 😂. She asked me to return it. NOPE! This sub is AWESOME!
🤣🤣🤣
I’ve had a Hsu VTF-3 MK5 15” sub for over 6 years now and it’s fantastic! You have to review one of them!!!
I've asked Dr. Hsu in person to review some products. He politely declined.
@@joentell Ugh oh well!
@@FalconsATL for some reason hsu does not like sending subs for review to anyone. Very odd to me since they perform so well at a great value. I use to run a quad setup of the vtf3 mk5 before I switched to jtr cap 4000s. The hsu were flat out amazing for the price. I was getting 14hz extension and only 3 percent distortion. Crazy good for the price considering they were 825 dollars a piece when I bought them four years ago
@@Ctripp2448 my guess is they have a formula that works for them and they're comfortable with their level of sales and marketing. I can respect that.
I''ll bet that subwoofer is everything you say it is but, I bought my first CD player from RSL in 1984 and they left me with the permanent impression that they are shysters. Even with that experience being nearly 40 years ago I'll be avoiding that brand at all costs. Rogersound Labs made a huge impression on me. They assumed that I was an idiot.
Sorry to hear that. Maybe give them a call and give them another chance. It's been a while.
@@joentell I probably hold grudges for too long!
In the words of Frozen, let it go... Deep
Hey. I saw that You have the Sony SA-SW5 on your list of favorite subs under 1000$ on your Padlet list. But have You reviewed it. If so, I can't find the video. I would love to see a review with measurements and all.
Great sub and review. I wish RSL would of spent the money on an app instead of the remote though. App's like Elac's sub control 3.0 is so useful and easy to use that it makes setting up sub woofers easy.
Love this thing man. Great value.
can you help us audio amplifier T200w do a review on youtube,thankyou!
What is running your subs hot mean? Is it 75db and above or 80db and above? Thank you
Careful with those dust caps. They dent easily
Yeah they barely look thicker than heavy duty aluminum foil.
Careful with those dust caps. They dent easily
I believe it. Aluminum is like that.
Excellent Joe. Looking for a mid size sub to tide me over until big upgrades in future.
How would u compare this subwoofer to a pb2000 pro ?
Yoo i was hoping someone i watched would review this when it came out
Why do you show the sub measurements on a graph that goes to 10K
To see how high it plays without a crossover in place and to see if there are any breakup modes.
Love that it still has speaker level inputs. Did you try them?
I think the SVS PB-1000 Pro would have been a better comparison. 12-inch subwoofer for the same price but with app control and 325-watt RMS amp
I have the PB1000 Pro. I think it's a great deal, but the RSL has more extension and output.
Aloha, Joe! Where did you get your wall refraction panels?
They're just for decoration. Amazon.
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Can this be used for dj
for a dj subwoofer 12s
It probably could. I'm not sure it could withstand some of the beating that most Pro Audio equipment is built to withstand. Also, most PA stuff is meant to play loud. This is meant to get loud enough for most home theaters, and it has more bass extension as well. It probably won't get loud enough for a large venue though.
whats the name of the sound proofing on his wall
Kali audio ws6.2 next?
Has some nice excursion, as far as the finish at $799 It would be nice to see some wood type finishes rather than the matte grey finish.
Nice review 👌 thanks joe!
Hey Joe, should you turn the crossover all the way up on the subwoofer, and let the AVR do the work since it is set at 120?
Yessir! It's better that way because it can be easy to accidentally turn the knob on the sub. Also, it ensures you're not doubling up on the crossover point making it more steep unintentionally
@@joentell Thanks Joe. I’ll be shooting questions to you from time to time. I know my man is going through something and I want to give him space!
@@wendellwendellb339 all good. If you happen to have bought our Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit, our Discord group has some awesome people in there.
@@joentell I do have it. Angela gave me the link for it, but, I didn’t know what to look for.
@@wendellwendellb339 You have the link for Discord? Did you join?
I may be reading the chart in the video wrong but it looked to me like 16 hz was at at least 7db below reference (not within +- 3db) . So for comparisons to other subs, you would want to look at he lowest they go a 3db below reference, right?
That was only looking at the driver not including the port. The low-end extension is from the port.
I built my own 15 inch sub for that very reason. Alot of these companies build the sub small, then EQ it with boosted bass in the bottom octave. It usually sounds bloated and unnatural.
That’s your room/lack of calibration, not the sub’s “boosted bass EQ” 🤦🏻♂️. If you want good bass response then get a MiniDSP or good RoomEQ like Dirac.
@andrewskaterrr most modern-day subs have limiters and DSP built in that boost the low end. Room gain is a separate thing.
AWEsome, But for $800 + $150 for shipping. They better improve on the vinyl wrapping. Which i can see they will.
They said they already have
@@joentell Cool!
Soo... what do you think between RSL vs Monolith THX??
I have only tried the THX 8", 10", and 13". I would have to guess they're neck and neck when it comes to performance. Can't go wrong with either. You would probably purchase based on other factors aside from pure performance.
hi , not sure if you know or not but how would 4 of these compare to one jtr cap 2400 i know the jtr would go lower , also im in canada so price is fairly similar . tax, ship , duty, exchange
May be huge.... but not my Monolith M-215 huge... LOL!
That thing is crazy. I actually think dual subs stacked like that makes sense since it takes the same amount of floor space, but just more visual space.
@@joentell I was looking into the M-210 to replace my 2 aging M&K V-75ii subs, I had subscribed to Monoprice to get emails on deals a few months ago…. And that’s when the M-215 dropped to $1525! Only a couple hundred more than the price of the dual 10”s…. I mean who could pass up a sale son! So I said take my money! 😂🤣😂
@@AlexGtheDon how you like em?
@@joentell once I adjusted it (in THX mode) because I like the tighter bass as opposed to ported, it is actually too much! 🤣😂🤣 the day I got it, I had let it warm up and then played a song for five minutes at a relatively high volume, my neighbor that lives in a house 80 feet from me came and told me his walls were breathing lol. So I can understand that due to the corner loading because I had it in such a way that it was facing towards his house (that’s the wall my TV is on) so I’ve moved it to the opposite corner, facing the interior of my home, re-ran YPAO, and it is incredible. The tactile feel is almost alarming. Every time I get a significant amount I start worrying that it’s affecting him in his home. So I don’t blast and put my system up the way I used to with the 2 M&K 12’s. I actually have to turn it down a little bit. I feel that I have lost some mid bass solely because I have to turn it down and the impactful 60 Hz to 100 Hz is lower now because the low Bass that travels is so extremely far that it affects his house lol.😂🤣😂
I honestly think that I may have to eventually buy another new home with a little more room just so that I can enjoy it the way I want to. I didn’t sign up for that when I got my brand new house last year! 🤣😂🤣
@@AlexGtheDon if you have multiple subs, something like MSO Multi-Sub Optimizer can help ensure you aren't EQ'ing your subs so you have a peak at your neighbors house. 😁
Pro Tip: buy the Bose sub2. 1000Rms ground shaking bass.
According to the specs for that PA sub, it's only rated down to 37hz. Most PA subs are designed to get loud, but not necessarily very low.
With a 10inch sub I doubt that even if it clocks in the 30hz it would make a difference. It's just too small.
Hahaha!!! A ~$1,200 sub that only goes down to ~37hz, LOL. That's a terrible deal - just like anything B(l)ose.....
@@emu256 Most decent 10" subs easily reach 30hz. Hell, many floorstanding loudspeakers reach 30hz - even some smaller bookshelf speakers hit 30hz with room gain added (eg: my PSB Imagine XBs). What planet are you on???
I paid less than that for a 12-inch sealed sub from BK Electronics in Europe. Build quality is exceptional, and it has real veneer on it and is hand-built. That whole "you have to accept shit class vinyl" on an $800 sub is nonsense. RSL can and should do better. But yeah, looks like a beast. Alternatives do exist that are close on price, like the new Klipsch RP1200SW and I'd probably rather go with that. I'd expect Klipsch build quality to be better. And they definitely look better in general imo.
I think there are always compromises. The company has to stay in business. I don't know what their expenses are like but I would hope they make enough to stick around and provide a good life for their families. I always wonder how companies can afford to ship and store large items like these.
@@joentell Sure. But seriously, how much can quality vinyl - vinyl ffs - cost to put on a sub? Every sub manufacturer under the sun puts at least fake black ash vinyl on and most make it last and look good. It's one of my biggest peeves with RSL subs, they by all accounts perform great, but they look pretty awful. WAF on these is nonexistent. I myself would hesitate to put one in my living room and I have IKEA furniture in said living room already...
@@KimmoJaskari I think they're all wrapped nearly the same now with the seam on the bottom instead of at the corners. I think what makes it look less premium compared to some others is the sharp corners. Rounding the edges makes the subs look more appealing imo.