I doubt if Tim Spiers watched united this season. I think any one saying "I don't what they are trying to do" about United this season clearly has not watched their games. They may not be executing well but its very clear patterns of play this season.
I don't think he cares to learn. What United are trying to achieve (become the best transition team in Europe) is an insane goal with very little stability. The style magnifies errors that happen and is physically exhausting. Patterns are emerging but you have to admit it's still a pretty chaotic side
@@mattvarner5825yeah spot on there. They have a clear style of play it’s just not one that has worked and he’s been given plenty of time to make it work so it seems to be the wrong style
@@tonylipsmire5918 I think there's something to this style of play, but it hinges on being able to cover more space and make better decisions than your opponent. If your team is more athletic than the others, it's a workable strategy. I don't think it works when the level is as high as the Prem has become
I really respect The Athletic but surely when you focus on a team you get people on who actually know that team? Why tf is Spiers on when you have Anka, Whitwell etc on your roster? This guy has either just watched United highlights or is taking his opinions from TalkSport. As The Athletic subscriber I say, do better.
Jim Spiers just totally contradicted himself in saying that EtH comes out with the same thing every post match interview, but then he says that he needs to show some more consistency WTF🤣🤣🤣🤷🏻 4:41
Same with United, United have been playing well and not conceding chances like last season, but they are always about I don't know what they are doing. Crap journalism
Can Tim Spiers stop flirting every time he gets asked a question? Don’t need the heavy breathing and lip squeezing, and maybe some more informed answers than, “dunno, it could go either way”
Final score: United 0-3 Spurs. Easy victory for Spurs but apparently Tim Spiers has an agenda against Erik Ten Hag - the greatest manager of all time who has unlimited excuses for failure!
Why is everyone including intelligent journalists like these guys, expecting an overnight challenge for titles??! As a Utd fan I want him given time with the new structure and not having to deal with a continuous discord about him getting sacked 😂
I love this channel, but that was a very average take. Especially regarding Tottenhams recent form. They are only lacking in finishing, looking at the stat's they're number #1 in nearly everything that matters.
I'm so tired of Journo's who have no clue about Spurs only talking about surface narratives like they know what they're talking about. They're only making themselves look stupid.
Exactly. Against Newcastle, Spurs dominated and were well worth the win-except they didn’t. Two errors cost them huge and fair play to a quality Newcastle. Spurs again played well against Arsenal but the finishing wasn’t there. Lost on a quality goal to a top quality side. Even with the losses, you can see what Spurs are trying to do and the progress they’re making. Found these pundits utterly lacking in insight to either team. Spurs absolutely smashing Man U at Old Trafford was not a shock to me
Seriously this matchweek preview format is an egregious waste of time. It’s just analysts and journalists that seemingly have as much knowledge (sometimes less) of the clubs they’re talking about as a regular punter. Either scrap this show format or get guests in that specialise on the clubs in question.
I think the spirit of Tim says it all most of the analysts, former players, main stream journalists just don't like ETH personality in press conferences he is not a charming person when infront of the camera of journalists
It's obvious they just don't like how ETH comes off in press conferences. If he had a little bit of personality or charm, they might see him differently and have a bit more patience
At this point their blind support for this failure of a manager is more a show of ego (I stick through my club through thick and thin) or fear of admitting they were wrong. It is utterly ridiculous and cultish behaviour. They don’t have genuine conviction in Ten Hag’s tactics, talent ID or personality. Just blind faith.
@@academicresearch2280 they don’t understand football. This manager got tactically outclassed almost every single game last season. They say he needs a structure 😂 why not give that structure to a better coach, tactician and manager?
So biased on Ten Hag, whether you're pro or against him being there, the so-called reporters don't even give any context or nuance to Man Utds underperformance - just because we overpaid on players doesn't make this a top 4 squad, and how long until this same lot start pushing for Southgate or one of the class of 92 to manage - so predictable, so stupid😣
@@CMEAGAINmate Jon just said United played their best game under 10 Hag against Crystal Palace. We United fans can all see we're performing A LOT this season already even when we're not picking up points. All those haters might have to swallow their words soon.
What is it about Tim Spiers and his dislike for ETH and Man United? I have only watched this channel a few times and both times Tim Spiers speaks dislike
All the hysteria about Ange's defensive approach misses the point. He baits teams into thinking they can score, and lets in a few goals as part of the plan.
The disrespect to newcastle united. Newcastle were well worth the win against spurs as the way to beat them is to let them have the ball in ineffective areas and hit them in transition. Newcastle do it and win, they were lucky. Arsenal do it in the north London derby, arteta is a genius and postecoglu has been found out
Genuinely baffled by how many journalists harbour such spite and vitriol towards Ten Hag and United. No other club gets this level of blind criticism and hate despite clear, statistically evidential progress in their play this season. Only makes me want him to succeed more just to piss this lot off. That’s without mentioning the complete lack of any likeability or professionalism. Who thought it was a good idea getting Spiers on camera - miserable guy should stick to the clickbait and columnist writing.
spurs are the perfect team for united to play right now. united have a top defense and are crying out for a gung ho team like spurs to tear apart on the break
Are we seriously using US timezones?! Why are we catering to a US audience. Nothing against the US, but can they not do maths? Unless Eastern Time is somewhere else
That's a bit unfair to ETH and United, United this season is definitely better than last two and as a fan I could clearly see how the team wanted to play the last few games but they just couldn't finish off the chances so I don't quite understand why the media keep mentioning "United dont have an identity blah blah blah"...
The Ten Hag cultists in the comment section are hilarious. No matter what lows Ten Hag takes United to, they still defend him with unlimited excuses. They are convinced that rivals fear Ten Hag when they literally want him to stay and weaken United until we are no longer competitive. They consider this horrible start to the season and improvement from the disaster of last season! This is still far from good enough for the richest club in England and any serious club would have sacked this fraud a long time ago!
@@gorgar0311 Spurs would have lost if the referee didn’t make a mistake and unfairly send off a Utd player. So my prediction wouldn’t have been far off if it was 11 v 11.
@@milezthegoat9299 what are you talking about? Man Utd had various clear cut chances to score in the first half. Spurs would have gone into half time 1-0 up and then completely capitulated in the second half if it was 11 v 11. Happened against Leicester and many many other times before.
The Ten Hag cultists in the comment section are hilarious. No matter what lows Ten Hag takes United to, they still defend him with unlimited excuses. They are convinced that rivals fear Ten Hag when they literally want him to stay and weaken United until we are no longer competitive. They consider this horrible start to the season and improvement from the disaster of last season! This is still far from good enough for the richest club in England and any serious club would have sacked this fraud a long time ago!
Sounds like you're an Anti-10 cultist too by the way. 2 trophies in 2 seasons with one of the most ill-equipped squads and infrastructures in the league. And this season? We're actually playing our best football IN YEARS! Not picking up points but we're improving VERY quickly even without half of our new signings and with injuries as usual. Not everyone you disagree with is a conspiracy theorist
@@haimainjauo242 Please get real and stop repeating the Hag mantra about trophies. The FA Cup carried a mere £2M prize and not even the chance to play in the Championship League where the real money is. Do you even know what the prize money is for winning the CL? Do you have any inkling how much money United dropped by not qualifying for the CL? Ineos are doing their best to improve things by playing within the PSR rules, but it will take time. Not qualifying for top competitions really hinders them financially. Do the maff. Ineos have improved the defence, but they ran out of money, Even you should concede that an experienced striker is urgently needed: Toney and Sterling were chances missed - and don't give me the guff about Sterling having played for City: Denis Law played for City before he subsequently joined United. This next summer United are going to have to sell again, in order to carry on buying cheaper players who have to improve: expect to see one of more of the following ex-Academy players sold: Rashford, Amad; Garnacio or Mainoo. jep! It''s two steps forwards and one step back. And it is not helped by a flaky manager who is out of his depth.
I doubt if Tim Spiers watched united this season. I think any one saying "I don't what they are trying to do" about United this season clearly has not watched their games. They may not be executing well but its very clear patterns of play this season.
I don't think he cares to learn. What United are trying to achieve (become the best transition team in Europe) is an insane goal with very little stability. The style magnifies errors that happen and is physically exhausting. Patterns are emerging but you have to admit it's still a pretty chaotic side
@@mattvarner5825yeah spot on there. They have a clear style of play it’s just not one that has worked and he’s been given plenty of time to make it work so it seems to be the wrong style
I haven’t seen any encouraging patterns of play
@@bobvickers9387 lmao
@@tonylipsmire5918 I think there's something to this style of play, but it hinges on being able to cover more space and make better decisions than your opponent. If your team is more athletic than the others, it's a workable strategy. I don't think it works when the level is as high as the Prem has become
I really respect The Athletic but surely when you focus on a team you get people on who actually know that team? Why tf is Spiers on when you have Anka, Whitwell etc on your roster? This guy has either just watched United highlights or is taking his opinions from TalkSport. As The Athletic subscriber I say, do better.
All you lot do is moan 👏
"roster" haha are you a Yank?
@@dontbewoke no actually - I’ve read a few other comments and for some reason it came into my head
Any conversation about United that involves Tim Spiers is just a waste of time. You have Carl Anka on the roster, we all deserve better.
Yeah not watching this
i am a simple man, when i see Spiers i close it immediately
"roster" haha are you a Yank?
Why are you copy pasting this comment? @@dontbewoke
Jim Spiers just totally contradicted himself in saying that EtH comes out with the same thing every post match interview, but then he says that he needs to show some more consistency WTF🤣🤣🤣🤷🏻 4:41
Such lazy comments in this
Zero research.
So apparent they haven't been watching tottenham at all
Mate those journalists are worse they're not even watching the teams they're discussing
Same with United, United have been playing well and not conceding chances like last season, but they are always about I don't know what they are doing. Crap journalism
Can Tim Spiers stop flirting every time he gets asked a question? Don’t need the heavy breathing and lip squeezing, and maybe some more informed answers than, “dunno, it could go either way”
doesn't seem to know much about United tbh-his answers are always strange
Final score: United 0-3 Spurs. Easy victory for Spurs but apparently Tim Spiers has an agenda against Erik Ten Hag - the greatest manager of all time who has unlimited excuses for failure!
Not watching this. Get better pundits. Tim is not objective and seems like a sad person
Jon Mackenzie without his glasses 😲
"It's such a soap opera" says a journalist without a hint of irony.
Why is everyone including intelligent journalists like these guys, expecting an overnight challenge for titles??! As a Utd fan I want him given time with the new structure and not having to deal with a continuous discord about him getting sacked 😂
I love this channel, but that was a very average take. Especially regarding Tottenhams recent form. They are only lacking in finishing, looking at the stat's they're number #1 in nearly everything that matters.
I would not mess with Jon. Tough looking man without his glasses.
Spurs played Arsenal and he said no serious team they played to assess 😊
Apparently Brighton and Liverpool aren’t serious either 😂
I'm so tired of Journo's who have no clue about Spurs only talking about surface narratives like they know what they're talking about.
They're only making themselves look stupid.
Absolutely, so much group think.
Well spurs have played Arsenal already this season…so are they “not a decent team” anymore?
Tim Spiers. Childhood ruined
Neither team has played anyone decent yet? So Arsenal and Newcastle aren’t considered decent?
Exactly. Against Newcastle, Spurs dominated and were well worth the win-except they didn’t. Two errors cost them huge and fair play to a quality Newcastle. Spurs again played well against Arsenal but the finishing wasn’t there. Lost on a quality goal to a top quality side. Even with the losses, you can see what Spurs are trying to do and the progress they’re making. Found these pundits utterly lacking in insight to either team. Spurs absolutely smashing Man U at Old Trafford was not a shock to me
Neck beard back on, turning off.
Seriously this matchweek preview format is an egregious waste of time. It’s just analysts and journalists that seemingly have as much knowledge (sometimes less) of the clubs they’re talking about as a regular punter.
Either scrap this show format or get guests in that specialise on the clubs in question.
I think the spirit of Tim says it all most of the analysts, former players, main stream journalists just don't like ETH personality in press conferences he is not a charming person when infront of the camera of journalists
Any chance of getting journos who clearly didn't get their childhood ruined by the United dynasty commenting on United?
It's obvious they just don't like how ETH comes off in press conferences. If he had a little bit of personality or charm, they might see him differently and have a bit more patience
I love how United fans glaze Ten Hag. Hope he signs a long term contract
im a united fan and im horrified by these "fans" they dont seem to want to get back to the top. I even heard a lot want Ole back, its a disease
At this point their blind support for this failure of a manager is more a show of ego (I stick through my club through thick and thin) or fear of admitting they were wrong. It is utterly ridiculous and cultish behaviour. They don’t have genuine conviction in Ten Hag’s tactics, talent ID or personality. Just blind faith.
Blind tribalism.
@@academicresearch2280 they don’t understand football. This manager got tactically outclassed almost every single game last season. They say he needs a structure 😂 why not give that structure to a better coach, tactician and manager?
And why would we "glaze" him if we didn't think he's good? DUMMY 😂
Does anyone like Tim Speirs?
Seriously, I bet he has zero friends and none of his work colleagues ever ask him to go for a drink.
Well that's unnecessarily vicious. I bet you just described yourself.
@haimainjauo242 loool that seems unfair too
So biased on Ten Hag, whether you're pro or against him being there, the so-called reporters don't even give any context or nuance to Man Utds underperformance - just because we overpaid on players doesn't make this a top 4 squad, and how long until this same lot start pushing for Southgate or one of the class of 92 to manage - so predictable, so stupid😣
what is the nuance? is it the same nuance of last years shambles?
You'd be better off back in the echo Chambers of the fan channels.
Southgate in!
@@CMEAGAINmate Jon just said United played their best game under 10 Hag against Crystal Palace. We United fans can all see we're performing A LOT this season already even when we're not picking up points. All those haters might have to swallow their words soon.
@@haimainjauo242 I'm a unite fan and you're talking bollocks
What is it about Tim Spiers and his dislike for ETH and Man United? I have only watched this channel a few times and both times Tim Spiers speaks dislike
What top 4 players do man United actually have? Onana, Martinez, Rashford, Bruno is there anyone else?
Mainoo
@@gorgar0311 behave he’s nowhere near
"I dont think they'll go that attacking this weekend", well that aged well 😂
The clubs been shit for 10 years… patience 😂
Tim Spiers is not a fan of Ten Hag
Why would anyone be a fan of Ten Hag
He ain't alone
Anyone with half a brain isn’t a fan of 7 hag
hairlines higher than Spurs' defensive line. Mediocre uninformed analysis
Fantastic comment
"Era's come to an end."
17:28 tell me you haven’t been watching us without telling me you haven’t been watching us.
BATTLE OF THE FRAUDS LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
Title Should be like this: Premier League Gameweek 6 Preview
All the hysteria about Ange's defensive approach misses the point. He baits teams into thinking they can score, and lets in a few goals as part of the plan.
The disrespect to newcastle united. Newcastle were well worth the win against spurs as the way to beat them is to let them have the ball in ineffective areas and hit them in transition.
Newcastle do it and win, they were lucky.
Arsenal do it in the north London derby, arteta is a genius and postecoglu has been found out
Took me seconds to realize that is Jon without glasses
"Who would you rather be coaching? Manchester United for sure" well that aged well ffs
Anyone taking the ManU squad over Spurs atm is clueless. I bet most ManU fans to take that wildcard fantasy right about now 😂
Genuinely baffled by how many journalists harbour such spite and vitriol towards Ten Hag and United. No other club gets this level of blind criticism and hate despite clear, statistically evidential progress in their play this season.
Only makes me want him to succeed more just to piss this lot off.
That’s without mentioning the complete lack of any likeability or professionalism. Who thought it was a good idea getting Spiers on camera - miserable guy should stick to the clickbait and columnist writing.
Saying Tottenham won't play so attacking at Old Trafford is comical. They totally will. Started scoring goals too, so could be a goal fest 🎉
Lots of united fans don't lie hearing the truth it seems from the comments
Keep blaming the manager. Meanwhile Rashford gets away with murder, figuratively speaking.
spurs are the perfect team for united to play right now. united have a top defense and are crying out for a gung ho team like spurs to tear apart on the break
Remember to thumbs down so they get the message
Totters reign supreme
HAG is on the verge of losing his job
You are not Ten fan (Tim Spiers). Remove that in your mind and learn what Ten is cooking. Check other channels and learn some of the Ten tactics.
His tactics are dogshit
@@smollgeez9034great opinion. 4 people agree. Must be true!
@@haimainjauo242 shut up you bum
Are we seriously using US timezones?! Why are we catering to a US audience. Nothing against the US, but can they not do maths?
Unless Eastern Time is somewhere else
The Athletic is a U.S. based company
Sell Rashford
That's a bit unfair to ETH and United, United this season is definitely better than last two and as a fan I could clearly see how the team wanted to play the last few games but they just couldn't finish off the chances so I don't quite understand why the media keep mentioning "United dont have an identity blah blah blah"...
tim spiers is not it.
So many whinging united fans in the comments upset that a journo dare not be an expert in their washed up team. We're gonna batter you, coys!
😂😂😂 we will be there. Ange is the most overrated manager in the league.
The Ten Hag cultists in the comment section are hilarious. No matter what lows Ten Hag takes United to, they still defend him with unlimited excuses. They are convinced that rivals fear Ten Hag when they literally want him to stay and weaken United until we are no longer competitive. They consider this horrible start to the season and improvement from the disaster of last season! This is still far from good enough for the richest club in England and any serious club would have sacked this fraud a long time ago!
Win or face the sack Erik
With Ten Hag United are consistently inconsistent. Serves up dross.
Son's injured. Man utd is going to win it.
BOYCOTT THE ATHLETIC. Allowing lies
You’re watching free content. Just chill 🥤
Two shit teams that won’t do nothing this season. United get lucky cup draws tho so could maybe sneak a league cup again but ultimately going nowhere
Spurs don’t have a hope in hell. 4-1 to Man Utd.
Time to rethink they way you size up football teams
@@gorgar0311 Spurs would have lost if the referee didn’t make a mistake and unfairly send off a Utd player. So my prediction wouldn’t have been far off if it was 11 v 11.
@jeffrey6171 The half was over at then, and it wouldn't change anything
@@milezthegoat9299 what are you talking about? Man Utd had various clear cut chances to score in the first half. Spurs would have gone into half time 1-0 up and then completely capitulated in the second half if it was 11 v 11. Happened against Leicester and many many other times before.
@jeffrey6171 What clear cut chances? even the shot from zirkzee the situation was awkward for him
First
Adam we know how spurs are going to play. Win fuck all.
United are trying to play a possession based system with a pretty high press
Pretty comfortable win for Spurs was it? Lol what an absolute Whopper u are!
The Ten Hag cultists in the comment section are hilarious. No matter what lows Ten Hag takes United to, they still defend him with unlimited excuses. They are convinced that rivals fear Ten Hag when they literally want him to stay and weaken United until we are no longer competitive. They consider this horrible start to the season and improvement from the disaster of last season! This is still far from good enough for the richest club in England and any serious club would have sacked this fraud a long time ago!
yh arsenal fan here and i can confirm, united are a sleeping giant right now and id love for you guys to keep him around and stay sleeping.
Sounds like you're an Anti-10 cultist too by the way. 2 trophies in 2 seasons with one of the most ill-equipped squads and infrastructures in the league. And this season? We're actually playing our best football IN YEARS! Not picking up points but we're improving VERY quickly even without half of our new signings and with injuries as usual. Not everyone you disagree with is a conspiracy theorist
@@haimainjauo242 Please get real and stop repeating the Hag mantra about trophies. The FA Cup carried a mere £2M prize and not even the chance to play in the Championship League where the real money is. Do you even know what the prize money is for winning the CL? Do you have any inkling how much money United dropped by not qualifying for the CL? Ineos are doing their best to improve things by playing within the PSR rules, but it will take time. Not qualifying for top competitions really hinders them financially. Do the maff.
Ineos have improved the defence, but they ran out of money, Even you should concede that an experienced striker is urgently needed: Toney and Sterling were chances missed - and don't give me the guff about Sterling having played for City: Denis Law played for City before he subsequently joined United. This next summer United are going to have to sell again, in order to carry on buying cheaper players who have to improve: expect to see one of more of the following ex-Academy players sold: Rashford, Amad; Garnacio or Mainoo. jep! It''s two steps forwards and one step back. And it is not helped by a flaky manager who is out of his depth.
@@haimainjauo242talk now.