BAYLINER 2855 BOAT - Bennett TRIM TABS NOT WORKING - Can We Fix it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Something completely different for this channel. Here we attempt to repair faulty Bennett Trim Tabs on Brian's BOAT!!!! The boat is a Bayliner 2855 Ciera from 1998. If you would like to see more attempted repairs on this boat, please say so in the comments section.
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Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things. I do love fault finding and trying to fix broken things, so I hope that comes across in this 'Trying to FIX' series. Many thanks, Vince.
A Rolls Royce, now a boat, mate can't wait to see in a couple of years Vince fixing the ISS and the blue / yellow mat in space!
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What could possibly happen to the blue / yellow mat that it would need fixed?
@@Box223 new capacitors, she'll be good as new!
@@jatie9 I don't imagine that would fix all those slight discolourations all over that could be there in 2025. I guess we can wait and see.
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Hey Vince, you can always check fuses with the circuits live. In the automotive repair industry, we typically use a test light connected to ground and check each side of the fuse. A blown fuse will only illuminate the test light on one side. I highly recommend that you start using test lights and substituted loads when checking circuits on cars and boats and stuff. A heavily corroded wire can still allow voltage to flow and show 12 volts on a multimeter and pass a ohm test, but will break down when you try to pass a substantial current through it. Watch some automotive repair videos on TH-cam if you have time. I highly recommend ScannerDanner and South Main Auto. They're some of the best automotive electrical diagnosticians on the internet.
ScannerDanner is the man for automotive electrical diagnostics
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Let me see what time is is on my Omega watch while I look for a weather station on my B&O system to tell me if the weather is okay to fiddle with my Rolls Royce or go boating today. I can hardly wait for Vince to start working on his Gulfstream G700 which seems to have some electrical issues and a leaky toilet...Love My Mate VINCE and look forward to each and every vid! 25:51 my favorite part of the vid: "annoyingly I dropped a screw.....into the pit of despair." Made me laugh nearly spitting out my coffee! Brilliant!!!
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thanks so much for this video. I have a 30' bayliner with stuck trim tabs and until watching your vid, had no idea about trim tabs. now i am confidant enough to work out whats wrong without bringing in the Marine Engineer.
I love how you will Try to fix anything with a solder joint and mabie some without crazy cool
I heard Brian saying "i think you got it vince well done mate"
Omg I remember all those videos. u helped me like it is crazy you came from showing people how to do basic Things like with Bluetooth and how to connect controllers to fixing boats
Good to see the blue mat back in action...my eyes thank you, Vince! 😎
Definitely! I think he took on board all of our comments!
Haha, I mention that in episode 24 on the Rolls car 👍👍
Loving the diversity of things you’re fixing lately vince. Keep it up!!!
Thank you Fudge 👍👍
The switch order makes sense in that lowering a tab causes that side of the boat to rise and vice versa. So hitting the left switch down will cause the starboard side to rise, thus lowering the port side (relatively). So in land lubber terms: left up makes left side go up, right side up makes the right side go up, left side down makes the left side go down, and right side up makes the right side go up.
Thanks Jeffrey, written that way is fully understandable 👍
Loved the video. First Rolls Royce now a boat. Looking forward to the next series title cheapest private jet in the uk lol 😂👍🏻👍🏻
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I love your excitement!
New series for you Vince, Plains, trains, boats and automobiles LOL
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Can't wait to see the repair of the airbus landing gear next week! Cool video!
He has to do a tractor next like the one I did.
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Hey Vince you should get a power probe. It will make your life so much easier! Good job fault finding on a boat!
Really enjoyed this video, fault finding is quite satisfying to watch 👍
Thank you👌👍
... and to think I though the Roller was high-end! total legend Vince. A great video. learned a lot on this one.
Thank you so much! Hope you're keeping well. I know you're a busy man at the mo but I do miss your videos👍👍👍
@@Mymatevince Thanks Mate. Stay tuned ! There is vid coming soon and something a bit different Inspired by your Rolls and luxury yacht :) I am very well thank you I hope that you are too.
@@RetroTechRepair Excellent news 👍👍👍👍
the rolls royce car, now a boat, good job vince 👍
looking forward to see some maybe private jet fix/repair video? 🙂😉
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Fantastic... excellent video! hats off to you sir.
Cute boat. So glad it was just the valve.
Enjoyed this, would love to see more boat fixes in future! (once the Rolls is done of course)
Thanks Vince for an entertaining video. I mean this in the nicest possible way, but it was like watching the blind leading the blind. Your knowleadge of electronics blows me out of the water, but I think that your troubleshooting skills were a little long winded in this video. HOWEVER, don't stop! I enjoyed your journey.
Being on a boat I’d tidy up the fuse box area sea air and exposed wiring will soon have corrosion set in remove the majority of those crimps /scotch locks lol and solder the wire and insulated just to avoid any future problems with your electrics will also save you any future headache looking for faults
WELL DONE!!!!!
Nice one Vince . Yes keep them up was brill.
Excellent, thanks Guy 👍
Ha, molex for the win. I hate these in PC. They are very hard to connect/disconnect. Never the less - next time on MMV: Vince fixing Boeing 636!!!
Hey Vince! I work on boats as a living so this was fun to watch lol! Good work!
Thank you Jason, hope it wasn't too painful 😂👍
@@Mymatevince no way! You do great work!!
Feel free to consult me for questions. I’ve been in the industry for 6-7 years worked on so much top to bottom. Electrical, diesel, plumbing, gel coat repair, bright work etc.. be a fan for a long time so I’d like to give back!
Thanks! Nice vid. Something different. Really enjoyed the working out of the issue.
Thanks Adam, also very nice to see a super chat come through. It doesn't happen very often. I really appreciate it 👍👍👍
@@Mymatevince I just prefer to do it that way. Not to be bad to anyone but I like to pay for a vid that's useful to me, rather than pay patreon etc when there might be a lot of vids that are not much use to me. I selfishly hope it might help a channel put on more of what I like. :)
@@theshemullet I get that👍 It is quite a new feature on this channel (last few months) and since then I have had around 8 'super thanks' so for me it is a nice surprise to see one pop up 👍👍
@@Mymatevince Well keep putting on interesting stuff and you get more quids from . I also throw a couple of quids to the order, stez, dionegonwild etc. I just like paying for the vids that help me :) Hlad you understand
Vince... After years of watching. You've gone from water damaged Nintendo switch's to water damaged boats. Either way. Always happy to watch your entertaining flamboyant style of videos. 💪😀🎉
P.s I'm all for the blue mat. Yellow mat plays tricks with my peepers!
Another great video Vince! You are demonstrating that basic troubleshooting skills can be used in many different types of repairs.
Thanks SP 👍👍👍
The switch positions are correct. Once you engage the starboard “bow up” the following happens: First, it raises the port side tab which lowers the port stern. As the stern lowers, the starboard bow rises upward.
For the opposite side, engaging the port “bow down” deflects the starboard side tab downward. Thus, raising the starboard stern section and lowering the port bow. As expected, engaging the port “bow up” has a reverse effect.
Oh, I get that. I was thinking more from an electronic point of view with the wires but from an operating point of view the bow side that moves matches the switches. Thank you 👌👍
Hi Vince, all we need now is a plane to fix and you then have the hat trick . Great video.
Nice job well done.
Great video Vince👍
Thanks Joe 👍👍
Vince. What a great upload, well done. I found this so fascinating.
Thanks Rikardo 👍
I did enjoy that little excursion on the Themes .
yes vince that wire shorted well done👌
From what I see, it does not matter if the battery is on or off as the power connection is directly to one of the batteries and not through the switch.
And the operation is very simple. All centers of the double pole double throw switches have main positive power. Each swith does the same thing to the motor. Switch/s up runs the motor in forward and switch/s down runs the motor backwards. The port switch opens the Starboard port for either up or down just to enable that cylinder and the opposite on the other side. So one switch up opens that port and runs the motor forward. That same switch down opens that same port and runs the motor backwards. The motor has a common ground and one lead powered up runs it forward and the other lead runs it backward. If you should put one switch up and simultaneously put the other switch down, then the fuse would blow because now you have power on the forward winding of the motor as well as the reverse winding. Very simple little system.
I was recently having a recurring sometimes failure that I found difficult to diagnose as in a larger boat, I have 2 separate switches without the bussing on them. There is the single middle wire that had some corroded crimp terminals, but only slightly corroded in the jumpers from that main wire to the other 3 posts. They would read good voltage without a load, but when under load, the high resistance would take the power away. This would have been rather simple to diagnose except for the fact that one of my switches was also intermittent with a slightly corroded contact internally. I finally changed both switches as well as redoing all of the crimp splices and everything has been perfect since.
And I have found on my boat that every single wiring failure can almost always be attributed to an open type crimp splice that has corroded internally. Whenever I work on any of the wiring, the first thing that I do is replace all of the open connectors with a heat shrink type that I find very rarely fail even when under water.
Great job fixing it as I did not know that individual solenoids were available and replaceable, thanks for that.
Superhero fix another thing nice job Vince
Thanks Catherine 👍
Huh? What? A boat?
Next on MMV: This 737 was grounded due a fault in one of the engines. Let's see if we can find the fault and fix it. Remember, I'm not an expert...
I was thinking the same thing, but can you imagine how long the cleanup part of the video would be for a 737 with some IPA and wipes.
Got a good laugh from this.
Hahaha well I am getting experience on Rolls Royce engines...can a jet engine be that much different??? 😂😎👍
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MMV and Rebuild Rescue collab? :)
keep up the boat faults thanks vince
Totally awesome Vince!!!! Next - aircraft!
😂 One day Chris, cheers buddy 👍👍👍
Brian has saved a fortune in boat mechanic fees.
He owes you a pint or ten Vince .
Haha, he's such a nice bloke. He's lent me quite a few tools and given me advice on the Rolls. Sounds sad but I had the best time working on this boat. Something completely different for me. I will of course not mention this and get a couple of pints out of him 😂👍
Love the boat video it's unique 👍
OOh Arr Me Hearties! shiver me timbers, screws have a built in satnav system that make them automatically fall into impossible spaces.
Aye, Aye Capn Vince 🤬
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I'm very jealous of Brian, I've always wanted a boat, great fix
Vince, if you are going to be doing more vehicle electrical you might want to invest in a "Power Probe" I use to do a lot of automotive electrical and they are a god send. You hook the main leads to the battery and the "probe" can then be touched to areas and it will tell you if it's grounded or hot and a little rocker momentary switch on it allows you to then inject hot or ground if needed (it has a resettable breaker if you overload it). The company also has extensions (it's already like 15' long but they have them another 30' for use on things like motorhomes, trailers and such) They also have special wire piercing probes that have tiny needle inside, you lay the wire into a grove and tighten the probe and it pierces the wire for testing, the holes are so tiny that there is no need to do anything to the wire when you are done. It's an amazing tool but a little pricy. If you plan on doing automotive (12v or 24v) then it's a super good investment.
I have been told about them on the Rolls Royce. Apparently, they can save me a ton of time. I should get one really, but I'm just so used to my multimeter, I been told this can give false reading though. Maybe I'll treat myself, cheers Epoxy 👍👍👍
That was a great video Vince, loving the wider range of things to try and fix. Personally I think it makes for more interesting viewing, I would enjoy more videos on fixing things on the boat.
Granddad from pawn stars quote is 100% right. Boat stands for bust out another thousand! .
I forgot to mention tho fair play to you Vince for keeping this fix reasonable for the owner, great fix..
I like boat fixes. I'd watch for sure.
Great video Vince. I enjoyed watching.
First a car, then a boat, only a matter of time before they have Vince fix a lunar rover!
This was awesome Vince, Thanks
My son bought a boat the engine looked as beautifully clean as this one. Don't forget Vince if the fuses are blackened then the contacts in the fuse box will probably be the same and maybe need cleaning to, perhaps this increase in resistance is causing the fuse to blow. A long time ago someone told me to remember port and starboard as THERES NO PORT LEFT TO DRINK. Correct me if I'm wrong but those connectors bear a remarkable resemblance to computer power supply molex connectors. Oh yes here's a thought, maybe those switches are upside down if you turned them around the left switch would operate the left trim and the right switch would operate the right trim. Just a thought.
I'm really enjoying the range of fixes lately. Having said that, don't feel pressured to buy the cheapest Benetti yacht in the UK. I'm just saying I'd watch that too.
This time next year Alexander 😂😂 If I am honest, I would be tempted with a little river cruiser 👍 Something smaller than Brian's boat that I could feel confident operating.
hi vince should always put the right value fuse as stated on the manual tbn
Electronics, car and now a boat? Vince gonna be fixing a 747 next before he'll travel to the ISS 🚀
Great detective work vince . That’s was some satisfying fault finding
Thanks Eathen 👍👍👍
Rolls-royce Speed boats, MMmmmm What next Aeroplanes....Great repair. Vince......
OMG!! A Boat! whatever next Vince, Next week My Mate Vince fixes a faulty Jumbo Jet! 😆 Very enjoyable though.
Hahaha, I had so much fun on this one Mike. A nice peaceful day down on the Thames. The next video on it is the horn not working!!!! No spoilers but it wasn't quite so peaceful by the end of it 😂👍
@@Mymatevince looking forward to watching that one too. 🙂
Yep, 350ci Chevy mercruser. Very good motors.
A fascinating video.
well that was fun to see :) and what great fault finding techniques :) would it be possible to just swap the red and green wire to enable the right wire on the right side and left on the left :) just a thought :)
Thanks GDaddy, it would yes BUT apparently it is correct because the switches are labelled up as BOW. The left trim tab effects the right bow and the right Trim Tab effects the left bow. Other comments on here explain it better than that 😂👍👍👍
Love your videos Vince. I used to take things apart when I was a kid to see how they worked or to fix them when they broke. I’ve learned a lot from you. You are may favorite TH-camr.
Thanks Ron, I too took everything apart as a kid 👍👍👍
Great video Vince, really enjoyed it and found it really interesting. Lovely boat, could just picture myself cruising around the med with a few beauties sunbathing at the rear 🤣 Mick 👍🍻
Hahaha. I pictured myself doing that as well Mick. Unfortunately, reality kicked in and I realised I was stuck on the Thames in the rain looking at Brian!!! 😂👌🍻
@@Mymatevince Lol enjoy mate 👍🧉
👍👌👏 Very well done again (video and work). Yeah, boat people really seem to be a special and nice breed, very helpful too. I watch some sailing boat channels and it seems the same all over the world. I wish your friend good luck and a lot of fun with his boat (unfortunately the actual gasoline prices will not cooperate). I would like to see more boat work/repairs done by you. But please don't forget the Rolls Royce restoration over that. By the way: Don't you have the possibility to put the car under a roof? Even if it's only a shed, everything is better than working when it's wet outside.
Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all involved people.
Very interesting, I know nothing about boats, so nice to see something completely different for a change :)
Likewise. I found it fascinating looking at them so closely 👍
Great Video Vince! And a change of scenery! I saw your interview video with dubious engineering, it was good! I'd be interested in doing one of those TH-cam fixers video's with you if you are planning on doing any more of them! Also you might want to check my Dyson Fan Repair I just did.
Thanks BiFi. Nice one, you'll be first in line if I do BUT like most new things I try now here on TH-cam they've died a death. I don't know why as the people that watched them really liked them, but YT just didn't push them to the wider audience. I'm obviously biased but I thought they were great 🤣👍
Next time Vince trying to fix a plane!
And a rocket after that!
Vince one day you should live stream the diag video, I sit here going "why did he test it like that" LOL Great video and best wishes !
VERY ENJOYABLE, MORE PLEASE
Switch positions left/right ?
Suppose that you are zooming along and want to lower the right side of the boat. You press the bottom of the right hand switch to lower that side by lifting the left side of the boat and vice versa
Thanks HeliBob, yes it makes complete sense now as the switch is labelled up as BOW. I was thinking more from a wire point of view rather than how it operates in the water 👍👍👍
In Canada we have the Canadian Power Squadron which gives lessons and trains people all about power vassals and how to use them, read maps, etc (there is also the Canadian Sail Squadron which does the same thing for sailing boats) I am sure a similar group exists there, and i hope your friend is using their services
I can't believe you are now on to fixing boats!!! Amazing work, Vince.
Cheers Michael, I loved this as I have never looked at any workings on a boat. I have another video upcoming on the horn not working 😂👍👍
Now you are fixing a boat?! Is there something you can't fix? What's next? A Plane, a Space Shuttle?🤣 Very good job. It was really interesting to see this.
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nice one sir
Good job shipmate Vince ! 😊
Thank you shipmate Mike 👍
Love it Vince,that is the dream right there,some day soon hopefully,just have to do with the 13ft clinker for now 😭😭
Thanks Titan. At least it is a start 👍👍👍 and cheaper on fuel 😂
Use a load across the fuse, like an automotive brake light bulb in series, to keep from blowing so many fuses. The light bulb will glow bright when there is a large current but should drop all the current across the filament. I have seen many mechanic channels using this trick, and the light bulb can be connected in series with others to increase the load. It is also used in the electronics field. It is called the series light bulb trick. After working on a power supply circuit put a 120 volt light bulb in series with the "hot" the light will come on bright then go dim as the power supply circuit comes up to full voltage. If there is still a problem or overload in the circuit, the light bulb will drop all the current and protect all the components that were just replaced.
The trouble with boats is that lots of owners do their own electrics on them....and not everyone is as thorough as you.
I mean look at the rats nest of wiring on that fusebox , and that was tidy compared to my first boat! Lol
Friend of mine (Nathan) who came on a mine explore / repair video with me the other week actually lives on a boat, and I know he's told me about the nightmare he's had with the wiring with connector blocks here and there, and wires that were too thin burning out etc.
I look at that in more detail Adelle in an upcoming video on why the horn isn't working 👍👍👍
Rolls Royce to Speedboat. I think the next watch repair should be a nice vintage Rolex Yacht-Master.
😂 Now that would be nice...Not quite a Yachtmaster but I do have a very rare Omega video awaiting release 👍
Really good viseo vince, it was nice to have you work with someone as well.
Next up, a little prop plane :)
Just don't do a Jimmy's world 😂 #savethe310
"It's all connected" 🤣 I got an MCU movie vibe after hearing that phrase. Well done in this video Vince! BTW got a MMV coffee mug in, may feature it in one of my future videos 😁.
Nice one Shawn, I hope it enhances the flavour 😂 Whenever I hear "It's all connected" I now instantly associate it with 'Manifest' about the plane that went missing for 5 years. Properly binge watched all 3 series of that show 😎👍👍👍
@@Mymatevince my wife swears it was a good series. I've only seen bits and pieces. May have to watch it now.
@@HavingFunRepairs The acting can be a bit irritating BUT I think the storyline is really good. Just waiting for series 4 to come out now to see how it all ends up.
Great video, I have learnt something new about a boat. For another boat video (Which we’d all like to see) why don’t you wire the trim switches into the fuse box under the dash instead of the horrible retro fitted wire with in line fuse? That would give it a more OEM feel and be independent of which battery the isolator is switched to.
I'll mention that to Brian. There are 2 spare fuse board slots under there as well 👌👍👍👍 Cheers Techy
Really interesting fix! Great stuff Vince.
Thanks Psycho 👍👍👍
love it..
I enjoyed this video. Well done 👍
Thanks Mark 👍
boats? Rolls Royces? Vince is going up market and will soon forget about us,
😂Me, never...Call me Sir Vince and I will never forget you!
Job well done 👍👍👍
Vince can't fix it nobody can lol Love the video always something different keeps me coming back for more keep up the awesome videos
Thanks KS 👍
That connector is called a Molex, they are used on Pc power supply's though they are being phased out in favor of the SATA power connector.
Nice work Vince.... nice deductive troubleshooting - excellent - did you finish up with a 20amp fuse ? Anything else may still blow depending on the draw for the solenoid. Perhaps moving both sides at the same time would cause the highest amperage draw.
Thanks Ron, yes, we put a 20Amp fuse in at the very end. Sorry, we forgot to film that bit. I think it still had a 15Amp in when testing 👍
Great repair, Vince. One quick test for solenoids is to measure the resistance of the coil. A reading of 0 ohms would indicate a short and infinite ohms would indicate a wire break. The normal operating resistance range varies according to the particular solenoid design, but it should match other solenoids of the same model if you have them available to compare.
The same test also works across the coil terminals of typical electromechanical relays-- in that case you're measuring the internal solenoid that flips the relay's mechanical switch contacts.
Thanks George. It was cut from the video due to the length but the working one was 8 Ohm from wire to metal case and the faulty one was 2 Ohm 👍👍👍
Maybe I'm wrong but I think the tabs switch are always energized with 12v because the orange wire goes directly to the the switch and not the battery selector rotary switch, unless it breaks ground too but I don't think so.
I agree. No need to use the 1/2/BOTH/OFF switch which isn't involved in the trim tab circuit. Worth noting: even with the battery switch at OFF the trim tab circuit is still energised.
Oh yeah, I'll get Brian to double check that...unless like you mention the rotary switch only breaks the negative. Hmmm I curious now as I was working on it with complete disregard as I thought it was a dead circuit!!!
From rollers to boats, we're really branching out here 😂🔥
Helicopter next 🙃
Great video. Think once the Rolls is done you could move on to a boat project.
Vince goes Nautical - wow
I havnt seen the full video but if the fuse was blown, I would check the hydraulic switch, or something is jammed.
@23:00 my guess is the valve is stuck so it is dead heading the motor causing it to stall and over current.
Thanks for watching Scott. I didn't show it on the video as it was cut out, but the solenoid looked perfect inside, it did have a 2 Ohm short from the wire to a clean part of the case. The working one had a 8 Ohm short. I'm wondering if the coil inside failed with a few strands of wire touching the case. You would think that would have been a dead short though. It still blew the fuse though without the motor connected so something must have been shorting inside that solenoid. It was a fun one to fault find. Shame it couldn't be fixed and had to be replaced but still a win. Cheers Scott 👍👍👍
TronicsFix in one of his vids wearing a My Mate Vince t-shirt.