I did the same thing sold my 92X for for the M9A4 Centurion to me it is the ultimate 92 standard with the threaded barrel and night sights. Berettas for me are a gun I pick up and am naturally accurate with. I installed Trijicon night sights on the 92X but it was a beast to do and they where even bigger then the m9a4s. It would be nice if Dawson made some believe it or not there are not a lot of sight options for the 92X. Not something I carry more of a range or SHTF gun. I found the more standard I can keep it the more comfortable I feel depending on it. Thanks for the review,
Yep I did the same but I went with a full size M9A4. I concealed carry it every day AIWB in a trex arms sidecar, I'm a bigger guy so it's not uncomfortable for me. Haven't modified anything on mine other than getting a Surefire X300U for it. I think the stock triggers on Berettas are already so good, and I really like the heavy DA pull considering mine is a decocker only. I grew up learning on my dad's old italian 92fs and also have my own 92fs so stock the trigger on the M9A4 is already miles better for me. I'm one of those weird superstitious people that likes to keep my handguns with stock parts. I do modify my rifles and shotguns though as those arent pointed at my family jewels all day😂
Great review. I just wanted to note that the Wilson Combat Mag Guide you have is fitting exactly as it should. I have those on multiple Beretta 92s (M9a3, M9a1, 92X, 92FS) and that's how it fits. The 92 it doesn't fit on is actually the 92X Performance not the regular 92X. Langdon's website is confusing because it only says that it's not compatible with the 92X. This is obviously a hold over from when the only 92X was the 92X Performance before all the other 92X guns were released.
The Beretta actually won the latest contract but they went with Sig because it was cheaper. I'm personally saving up for the full LTT kit with the np3 coatings. I still wanna get my hands on an M9A4 though. I HATED the Beretta when I was in the Marines but thinking back its probably because the guns where ran through more than a Thai hooker lol. It also had the half moon sights on it and not the 3 dot.
Well, beretta won the contract in the 80s, but was never even allowed to enter the MHS competition sadly. I like your idea of getting the NP3 LTT, I would like to have one myself one day. The Marines definitely had the better beretta with the M9A1 vs the Army’s M9, but with the hard double action pull at 12lbs pull, and the government contracted magazines with the phosphate type coating the beretta never got the credit it deserved in the military. Not to add the fact most military personnel never get proper training with pistols didn’t help with a bad reputation when the operator didn’t know how to best employ their equipment.
Whew that was close was looking at both now glad went with the A4 for the threaded barrel, wanted for home suppression gun at bedside and wanted a decocker , only reason thought about the 92x is because it’s black and less thought surely could add a threaded barrel easily, waiting on it to come in to my dealer I wasn’t keen on color at first, but like you may change up when getting beat up , maybe bazooka green frame and barrel with black slide Wish was available from manufacturer in more color schemes
I wonder why Beretta didn't apply the *A3 style* _angle-up_ on the de-cocker. Do you know if it's possible to swamp out the *A4 style* for the *A3 style* ?
@@Duty2Domicile I don't own either an A3 or A4 so I can't confirm, but going just by what I see here, th-cam.com/video/ybKPyuGBSvg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CvX8y3Oof-5fGrNJ&t=375, the A4's _angle-up_ is not a pronounced as on the A3.
Which type of ammo does your beretta not like? Usually these guns run everything well, do you believe it could be a guide rod spring issue or a tolerance issue in the chamber?
Man I wish I saw this video earlier, I have a 92X centurion that I bought because I wanted the shorter barrel. Unfortunately the barrel was a piece of junk. When I got a hold of Beretta they replaced the barrel with a threaded barrel, I would have gladly swapped barrels with you.
I appreciate the thought. But to be honest, next time I get one it will be the full length slide. It’s just easier for swapping parts and I personally prefer the looks of the full length as well
@@georgegravette1132 Unlike most barrels that are shiny, it was a dingy grey and rough inside. At 10 yards half the shots were keyholing, a piece of junk.
great vid! that tjiab, should just come standard on all berettas...lol. it is without a doubt the best upgrade i believe you can get for a 92. my unicorn beretta 92 is the billenium. favorite of what i have is just the plane ole fs model, but most of the internals have been changed out. other than things you did with yours, i put in the short reach trigger.
I was thinking about getting a short reach trigger from WC, but beretta advertised it already came with their version of a short reach trigger so I figured I’d save the money as I still have to buy red dot stuff and sights for this project. Thanks for watching and your comments!
I only did one on the PX4 which is a little different, as you don’t need a separate kit for that. But I never did one on the 92. I seen videos about it and if you have the right punches it is something I think you could do with a little patience. I do know that working with the smaller components can be a pain especially if you don’t have the right tools ( punches, and bench block mainly).
i put a g conversion in myself on my 92fs. it's not too bad, just be careful of the little parts. there are also a couple vids on the tube that would probably be helpful.
I carried the Sig M11 as a duty weapon for years so I can tell you my opinion with some confidence. The beretta M9A4 is the better gun, especially if you put a LTT trigger job in a bag into it. The beretta has a better grip, recoil impulse, and is smoother shooting overall, just get the G version. Both are reliable and both have a great track record. But if it were my money after using both of them, I’d go for the beretta all day every day.
@@Duty2Domicile that’s probably what I’ll do then. I carry a full size M9 pretty regularly, but I shoot my P239 better than any gun I own. The more compact size of the sig is appealing. I could always cut threads off of the A4 though and recrown it.
@@redbarronreviews2429 , if possible, try each one, but shooting both stock compared to what you can do to the M9A4 is almost an injustice 😂. If you’re shooting great with the sigs, the M11 will probably not be too much different than what you’re used to. The best part is, you can’t go wrong with either one
That trigger upgrade kit was really meant for other models....mostly. The M9A4 already comes with a upgraded trigger and a de-cocker so spending time $ on this upgrade...meh. No real bang for the buck unless you want a skelatized style hammer. Trigger pull and reset is exactly the same.
The spring kit does not have anything for the decocker, but I can tell you the trigger was leaps and bounds better afterwards. Especially the double action and the reset
I’m shy of 300 rounds away from 1000 rounds through the m9a4. No problems so far! Great shooter.
What brand of fmjs are you feeding thru it may I ask?
@@titaniumgreen5367 mostly Midwest Ammunition & sometimes magtech
@@titaniumgreen5367I’m 400 rounds in, all mag tech 115, no issues.
Wouldn't that be 700 rnds!
I did the same thing sold my 92X for for the M9A4 Centurion to me it is the ultimate 92 standard with the threaded barrel and night sights. Berettas for me are a gun I pick up and am naturally accurate with. I installed Trijicon night sights on the 92X but it was a beast to do and they where even bigger then the m9a4s. It would be nice if Dawson made some believe it or not there are not a lot of sight options for the 92X. Not something I carry more of a range or SHTF gun. I found the more standard I can keep it the more comfortable I feel depending on it. Thanks for the review,
Yep I did the same but I went with a full size M9A4. I concealed carry it every day AIWB in a trex arms sidecar, I'm a bigger guy so it's not uncomfortable for me. Haven't modified anything on mine other than getting a Surefire X300U for it. I think the stock triggers on Berettas are already so good, and I really like the heavy DA pull considering mine is a decocker only. I grew up learning on my dad's old italian 92fs and also have my own 92fs so stock the trigger on the M9A4 is already miles better for me. I'm one of those weird superstitious people that likes to keep my handguns with stock parts. I do modify my rifles and shotguns though as those arent pointed at my family jewels all day😂
I got the 92G elite compact LTT. All I can say is wow. Langdon did a great job on it, amazing trigger. I like the color on yours.
Thank you
Great review. I just wanted to note that the Wilson Combat Mag Guide you have is fitting exactly as it should. I have those on multiple Beretta 92s (M9a3, M9a1, 92X, 92FS) and that's how it fits. The 92 it doesn't fit on is actually the 92X Performance not the regular 92X. Langdon's website is confusing because it only says that it's not compatible with the 92X. This is obviously a hold over from when the only 92X was the 92X Performance before all the other 92X guns were released.
Thank you for the feed back, I and others I’m sure who are looking to do the same thing appreciate it.
The Beretta actually won the latest contract but they went with Sig because it was cheaper. I'm personally saving up for the full LTT kit with the np3 coatings. I still wanna get my hands on an M9A4 though. I HATED the Beretta when I was in the Marines but thinking back its probably because the guns where ran through more than a Thai hooker lol. It also had the half moon sights on it and not the 3 dot.
Well, beretta won the contract in the 80s, but was never even allowed to enter the MHS competition sadly. I like your idea of getting the NP3 LTT, I would like to have one myself one day. The Marines definitely had the better beretta with the M9A1 vs the Army’s M9, but with the hard double action pull at 12lbs pull, and the government contracted magazines with the phosphate type coating the beretta never got the credit it deserved in the military. Not to add the fact most military personnel never get proper training with pistols didn’t help with a bad reputation when the operator didn’t know how to best employ their equipment.
I'm getting my license just to buy this gun. I love it. Thanks for the reviews. So helpful, stay safe and God bless
Whew that was close was looking at both now glad went with the A4 for the threaded barrel, wanted for home suppression gun at bedside and wanted a decocker , only reason thought about the 92x is because it’s black and less thought surely could add a threaded barrel easily, waiting on it to come in to my dealer
I wasn’t keen on color at first, but like you may change up when getting beat up , maybe bazooka green frame and barrel with black slide
Wish was available from manufacturer in more color schemes
great looking gun, will be good to see a revisit video after 1000 rounds. Keep up the good content
Thanks man, appreciate it
WC 92g Centurion is amazing.
Got the A3 with beretta trigger job and muzzel break with adjustable rear sight....
Hogue rubber grip modified to fit...like it...
I have the M9A3 and love it!
They maintained their value better than most guns I’ve seen as you can’t find a used one cheaper than what they went for new😂
Did you replace your hammer? Looks like a WC. Only berettas I have are the WC updated 92ct & 92 brig tac. They’re fantastic
The hammer is a beretta match hammer. It goes really well with the LTT TJIB and 13 lbs hammer spring
I just bought the full size and the rear tritium night sights do not glow, contacted beretta for warranty.
Hello USA! Do you know If M9A4 centurion will be available EU (Europe)?
Thank you for answers!
I'm not sure
@@Duty2Domicile Thank you, Dude.
@@cjeje8145no problem; however I would recommend the full size due to ease of more upgrades.
@@0QualityOverQuantity Corrected.
Isn’t Beretta Italian
I wonder why Beretta didn't apply the *A3 style* _angle-up_ on the de-cocker. Do you know if it's possible to swamp out the *A4 style* for the *A3 style* ?
The decocker is slightly angled up on the A4s as well. I believe they are the same exact parts
@@Duty2Domicile I don't own either an A3 or A4 so I can't confirm, but going just by what I see here, th-cam.com/video/ybKPyuGBSvg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CvX8y3Oof-5fGrNJ&t=375, the A4's _angle-up_ is not a pronounced as on the A3.
Have you found a steel guide rod that fits the centurion?
No I have not.
The flex in the polymer guide roses was also engineered with reliability when it comes to dirt dust and what have you. Love steel and love this pistol
IIRC, Mec Gar makes all of Beretta's OEM mags.
M9a3 is my baby.❤ It is ammo sensitive though compared to my cz p07 gen 2 which eats everything.
Which type of ammo does your beretta not like? Usually these guns run everything well, do you believe it could be a guide rod spring issue or a tolerance issue in the chamber?
@@Duty2Domicile It didn't like the reloads I shot through it. You are raising interesting factors that I didn't think of.
You gotta get the wire button for the light.
I’ll have to look into that.
Man I wish I saw this video earlier, I have a 92X centurion that I bought because I wanted the shorter barrel. Unfortunately the barrel was a piece of junk. When I got a hold of Beretta they replaced the barrel with a threaded barrel, I would have gladly swapped barrels with you.
I appreciate the thought. But to be honest, next time I get one it will be the full length slide. It’s just easier for swapping parts and I personally prefer the looks of the full length as well
You can't call it "a piece of junk" without elaborating. 🤨
@@georgegravette1132 Unlike most barrels that are shiny, it was a dingy grey and rough inside. At 10 yards half the shots were keyholing, a piece of junk.
Sand the inside of the grip..had to do the same with mine
great vid! that tjiab, should just come standard on all berettas...lol. it is without a doubt the best upgrade i believe you can get for a 92. my unicorn beretta 92 is the billenium. favorite of what i have is just the plane ole fs model, but most of the internals have been changed out. other than things you did with yours, i put in the short reach trigger.
I was thinking about getting a short reach trigger from WC, but beretta advertised it already came with their version of a short reach trigger so I figured I’d save the money as I still have to buy red dot stuff and sights for this project. Thanks for watching and your comments!
It wouldn't set off those weird euro/NATO primers tho.
Hi, are you’re empty cases showing a crater like bump on the primers? My A3 does
To be honest, I will have to check. I will add the results in my next range trip.
Great informative review man you just earned yourself a sub! 👍
Thanks for the sub!
Have you ever done the "G" convertion kit mod.? Do you think it's something that a non-gunsmith could do?
Good video, thanks for sharing!
I only did one on the PX4 which is a little different, as you don’t need a separate kit for that. But I never did one on the 92. I seen videos about it and if you have the right punches it is something I think you could do with a little patience. I do know that working with the smaller components can be a pain especially if you don’t have the right tools ( punches, and bench block mainly).
@@Duty2Domicile Thanks for the reply 👍
i put a g conversion in myself on my 92fs. it's not too bad, just be careful of the little parts. there are also a couple vids on the tube that would probably be helpful.
Great reviewsl! Ill probably will be picking up m9a4 full size
I’m really torn between this beretta and a sig M11A1. It would be a range toy, as well as daily concealed carry.
I carried the Sig M11 as a duty weapon for years so I can tell you my opinion with some confidence. The beretta M9A4 is the better gun, especially if you put a LTT trigger job in a bag into it. The beretta has a better grip, recoil impulse, and is smoother shooting overall, just get the G version. Both are reliable and both have a great track record. But if it were my money after using both of them, I’d go for the beretta all day every day.
@@Duty2Domicile that’s probably what I’ll do then. I carry a full size M9 pretty regularly, but I shoot my P239 better than any gun I own. The more compact size of the sig is appealing. I could always cut threads off of the A4 though and recrown it.
@@redbarronreviews2429 , if possible, try each one, but shooting both stock compared to what you can do to the M9A4 is almost an injustice 😂. If you’re shooting great with the sigs, the M11 will probably not be too much different than what you’re used to. The best part is, you can’t go wrong with either one
@@Duty2Domicile I ended up going with a colt commander in 9mm, but I will have both the Sig and the Beretta eventually!
That trigger upgrade kit was really meant for other models....mostly. The M9A4 already comes with a upgraded trigger and a de-cocker so spending time $ on this upgrade...meh. No real bang for the buck unless you want a skelatized style hammer. Trigger pull and reset is exactly the same.
The spring kit does not have anything for the decocker, but I can tell you the trigger was leaps and bounds better afterwards. Especially the double action and the reset
With the trigger job and a match hammer, the trigger changes drastically. Have you even shot one with a LTT Trigger job in a bag??
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