I understand what you mean, in that elements of the V8 engine were pretty crude. But it was also still at prototype stage so I think that is kinda to be expected. I thought the fundamentals of it actually seem fairly advanced and ambitious for the time. The fact that they actually designed and built a running prototype of a pretty exotic engine is no small feat.
You can see how we practically designed and built the world we live in to day, down to brilliant designers and inventors, engineers etc. This bike could have changed the biking world.... I can only imagine what this bike would be like to day, had it went through its evolution....Engineering Genius at its best!
So much has changed since these days its amazing what we could have done back in the day, but unfortunately it was all about the money at the time, so many British projects got lifted just before they became great producers due to the guys higher up thinking about the cost to develop further such a shame! I would love to see this thing rekindled and yes arojnd the 30k mark with the power they say it could make and the front end and rear end designs put into it and modern engine design i think they could easily roll out 300 a year
yeah i still have the original article about this bike. i was 4 years old i was amazed by it... first and only time i've heard about norton from 1998 untill 2012. than i found my old motorcycle magazines from my childhood and there was norton nemesis..
@@omkarmhatre1751 there are no links. it was a magazine article in the 1998 automotosport magazine from croatia. it was on cover. i have it home in croatia but i think its ruined in the shed by now. if i find when i go on vaccation i'll send you the photos so you can read it.
Lovely piece of work .......... great castings . Why sod about with carbon fibre ? ........ and if the bloke goes down the pub on a Sunday , it may be hoped he'll stuffs it in a hedge on the way home & have to buy another one ?
I've Been Watching Allen Millyard's Progress With This "Prototype"(?) & I Just Don't Understand Why That Group Of Quite Wealthy People Didn't Just Hire Him To Design & Build It In The First Place! There's A-lot Of Good Bike Builders Around & Then There's Allen Millyard. Thank You. (Like #292)
Titanium would be aircraft spec but very hard to work with and expensive. Ive worked with it. We werent allowed to use any electric tools on it. Only emery paper for deburring and chamfering it in aircraft parts place.
Interesting video, it was a concept design, thrown together to satisfy the investors that progress was being made using their money. After watching the thing being stripped by Allen millyard, and seeing some of the pitiful engineering, design, it is obvious it was miles from being put into production. Could it have competed whith whith bikes from the far east giants, I doubt it very much, apart from the novelty of a v8 bike, and it has been done before in the past, most riders tend to put their serious money into bikes from companies which shall we say have a good consistent track record. Personally I'm watching whith great interest Allen working his magic on the nemissis, I'm sure it will run properly when he's finished ironing all the bugs out of it, calling him a genius is an understatement.
As usual, over enthusiastic adherence to a legendary name, coupled with a 'difficult' motor engineering genius......it ended in tears. John Bloors pragmatic approach was always preferable.
Not sure why everyone bags on this engine. There's only one on the bike plus a apre engine, and it was a prototype which is what Alan Milyard is rebuilding. Fundamentally sound design but in building the prototype they took some shortcuts, totally understandable. I'd like to see anybody build a V8 motorcycle engine along with the entire custom rest of the bike! Now the front end on the other hand is absolutely bizarre and baffling. The fender is built into the fork sliders, but the real problem is the disc is bolted to the wheel rim and not the hub, plus the calipers are also cast into the sliders as well. You can't remove the wheel or change a tire without disassembling the entire front end off of the frame!
This guy is talking about all the stuff it does, but it never did anything. Some people in the motorcycle world talk about it, others are about it. With the correct approach, any of these classic British motorcycle names could be brought back as viable companies making sensible product, instead do nothing assholes waste money and never create a worthy end product.
They need a leader with a mind like Elon Musk, no money problems and a passion for British Motorcycles … (definitely NOT Elon Musk ) and maybe you would see the return of the great British Motorcycle !
A heap of crap -it’s amazing that the engine worked was very poorly constructed - Please look at Allen Millyard series as he tries to make it work properly
The engine was a bag of shite. It will only work now because of Allen Millyard's brilliance. The throttle control was a joke! I'd like to know where all that development money went?
Very poorly designed very bad engineering practices for the low mileage done to 2024 I would not brag,this is same heap MCN had people clicking and calling to listen to it.
Has Allen Millyard seen this ? Seeing as he's currently rebuilding that engine
It’s the smaller engine that went in the Spondon frame, not the v8 Allan’s putting right.
@@MrWaynetolson yes Allen is restoring the V8
he's rebuilding professionally what they built as amateurs
none of this is new stuff
I'm watching Milly's rebuild, I certainly wouldn't be boasting about designing the bag of spanners he's dealing with.
I understand what you mean, in that elements of the V8 engine were pretty crude. But it was also still at prototype stage so I think that is kinda to be expected. I thought the fundamentals of it actually seem fairly advanced and ambitious for the time. The fact that they actually designed and built a running prototype of a pretty exotic engine is no small feat.
Looks like the whole Allen fan base is hear did notice the frame had damage then
You can see how we practically designed and built the world we live in to day, down to brilliant designers and inventors, engineers etc. This bike could have changed the biking world.... I can only imagine what this bike would be like to day, had it went through its evolution....Engineering Genius at its best!
SCRAP !
Quite the opposite... Was THE worst "so called" Norton ever built, it's a bag of shit, absolute terrible design, abortion of a thing
Allen Millyard has got it running on ITV4's motorbike show, Henry Cole going to attempt V8 LSR
So much has changed since these days its amazing what we could have done back in the day, but unfortunately it was all about the money at the time, so many British projects got lifted just before they became great producers due to the guys higher up thinking about the cost to develop further such a shame! I would love to see this thing rekindled and yes arojnd the 30k mark with the power they say it could make and the front end and rear end designs put into it and modern engine design i think they could easily roll out 300 a year
Enter Allen Millyard.... 😂
There is a prototype Norton Manx March 750. Like SBK. Half Nemessis. It's in the Czech Republic.
Its in the Motorbike Museum at Birmingham.....
took a little research,but I discovered the timeframe for this video is circa 1998
yeah i still have the original article about this bike. i was 4 years old i was amazed by it... first and only time i've heard about norton from 1998 untill 2012. than i found my old motorcycle magazines from my childhood and there was norton nemesis..
@@donren5332 can you send the link of that article to me, I would love to read more about this motorcycle.
@@omkarmhatre1751 there are no links. it was a magazine article in the 1998 automotosport magazine from croatia. it was on cover. i have it home in croatia but i think its ruined in the shed by now. if i find when i go on vaccation i'll send you the photos so you can read it.
@@donren5332 Oh, got it and thank you for the kind gesture 😁
Lovely piece of work .......... great castings . Why sod about with carbon fibre ? ........ and if the bloke goes down the pub on a Sunday , it may be hoped he'll stuffs it in a hedge on the way home & have to buy another one ?
At least the BMW inline six motorcycle was real...this was a super ambitious project that came a cropper
Many years after the Benelli and Honda 6's were already real. (Benelli was a rip of the Honda CB 500 four with 2 extras tacked on)
@@ekspatriat You forgot about Kawasaki.
@@1t_wasnt_me Yes I did,
I've Been Watching Allen Millyard's Progress With This "Prototype"(?) & I Just Don't Understand Why That Group Of Quite Wealthy People Didn't Just Hire Him To Design & Build It In The First Place! There's A-lot Of Good Bike Builders Around & Then There's Allen Millyard. Thank You. (Like #292)
Titanium would be aircraft spec but very hard to work with and expensive. Ive worked with it. We werent allowed to use any electric tools on it. Only emery paper for deburring and chamfering it in aircraft parts place.
Alan Millyard : Hold my beer 😅
Interesting video, it was a concept design, thrown together to satisfy the investors that progress was being made using their money. After watching the thing being stripped by Allen millyard, and seeing some of the pitiful engineering, design, it is obvious it was miles from being put into production. Could it have competed whith whith bikes from the far east giants, I doubt it very much, apart from the novelty of a v8 bike, and it has been done before in the past, most riders tend to put their serious money into bikes from companies which shall we say have a good consistent track record. Personally I'm watching whith great interest Allen working his magic on the nemissis, I'm sure it will run properly when he's finished ironing all the bugs out of it, calling him a genius is an understatement.
The march 750 super bike existed I take it they ran out of funds
As usual, over enthusiastic adherence to a legendary name, coupled with a 'difficult' motor engineering genius......it ended in tears. John Bloors pragmatic approach was always preferable.
Not sure why everyone bags on this engine. There's only one on the bike plus a apre engine, and it was a prototype which is what Alan Milyard is rebuilding. Fundamentally sound design but in building the prototype they took some shortcuts, totally understandable. I'd like to see anybody build a V8 motorcycle engine along with the entire custom rest of the bike! Now the front end on the other hand is absolutely bizarre and baffling. The fender is built into the fork sliders, but the real problem is the disc is bolted to the wheel rim and not the hub, plus the calipers are also cast into the sliders as well. You can't remove the wheel or change a tire without disassembling the entire front end off of the frame!
accountants that rule it nowadays
I feel topiary has advanced since the date of this…
This guy is talking about all the stuff it does, but it never did anything. Some people in the motorcycle world talk about it, others are about it. With the correct approach, any of these classic British motorcycle names could be brought back as viable companies making sensible product, instead do nothing assholes waste money and never create a worthy end product.
They need a leader with a mind like Elon Musk, no money problems and a passion for British Motorcycles … (definitely NOT Elon Musk ) and maybe you would see the return of the great British Motorcycle !
@@chrisbraid2907 The marques are nearly all owned by Indian companies these days . BSA are back , seen one being ridden near me
A heap of crap -it’s amazing that the engine worked was very poorly constructed - Please look at Allen Millyard series as he tries to make it work properly
Those "investors" must have applied incredible pressure to produce, as the finished product was a horrid bodge. Embarrassing.
many are such of that sort of eventual dir😂cation and urge - not a few known of important strata such as curry or even fish! 😮
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The engine was a bag of shite. It will only work now because of Allen Millyard's brilliance. The throttle control was a joke! I'd like to know where all that development money went?
Very poorly designed very bad engineering practices for the low mileage done to 2024 I would not brag,this is same heap MCN had people clicking and calling to listen to it.