I have one of these paired with a second-hand RX 5600 XT graphics card and, while it might not set the world alight, surprisingly it has so far played everyhing I've thrown at it at 1080p on default settings, and stays cool and quiet. Very happy, for the price.
I bought a 5500 2 years ago to upgrade from an R7 1700, it's been working a treat with my aging 2060S ever since. It's a perfect cheap upgrade for budget 1080P gaming, better frame times, random hitches gone etc and as my PCB is a B450 I don't have PCIe4 to miss out on either.
In Malaysia, if you look around the online store, you could buy AMD Ryzen 5 5500 with better performance, which is same price as 4500... but funny thing is, 5500 doesn`t have PCI-E 4.0, 5600 have, but with +RM50 ($11 more), you can get Integrated GPU 5600G, but PCI-E 3.0. Brain exploded 😇
Great video, as usual. This was actually the CPU that i bought for my recent build. Got to use it for a few months until I upgraded to a 5700X. Overall, when paired with my 6700XT, the thing was doing just fine in esports titles like CS2, but in games such as RDR2 or Death Stranding, there was some big frame drops here and there, which was a bit annoying imo and also one of the main reasons why i upgraded to a 5700X.
@@jonpeley Just upgraded to 5700x, found it cheap and gave my son the 5600g with a B450 motherboard, upgrading his Aliexpress special i5 2500 machine. Currently on RX6600 graphics. Hoping to pick up a RX7700XT or 6800 for the right price.
I think this chip is just for people with old ddr4 PC that has Intel 6th gen+ with very few cores or dead mobo and has a favourite GTX 970 to do a quick upgrade to bring the PC back to life all you need is this cpu+cheap mobo and you can instantly do the transfer with significant performance boost to 6c12t
This is also great for basic home servers. the monolithic die means no more 30w idle power usage! For a generic desktop where gaming isnt the main focus, its pretty alright. Its a 3600 alternative thats brand new.
My 4500 been treating me alright for a year, really nice CPU at a bargain price. Pairs well with my RX 6600, make a really nice, cheap gaming + productivity setup. Might upgrade to a 5600 someday.
I'm not sure there's much value going up to a 5600. My system is about the same as yours, it's a 5500 with a 2060Super and for gaming I don't really see much point adding more CPU without adding more GPU. I'll probably wait until I platform swap next time.
@@darthwiizius Ryzen 5500 is a fair bit better than ryzen 4500 tbf. Ryzen 4500 is worse than Ryzen 3600. Also depends a lot on what games you play, some a better CPU can make a lot of difference.
@@Flyon86 It's a bit better (very slightly faster than a 3700X) but I think we're both still GPU constrained, except for in e-sports titles and emulation. But I suppose it comes down individual use cases in the end. If I pick up a cheap used 2080ti I reckon that will be more or less pushing the sensible limit of my CPU and system.
@@darthwiizius Yeah, although depending on your motherboard the 5500 could be causing reduced performance on you gpu too since it doesn't have pcie 4.0. OP said he had rx 6600, so switching to a ryzen 5600 should give him a bit of boost just due to that alone. Personally I think moving up to a ryzen 5700x3d (or 5800x3d) makes the most sense for a substantial upgrade if you have a 3600 or 5500 etc. like we do and don't want to buy all new for am5. A lot of games like the big cache from the x3d and it should help with 1% lows a lot.
its more like 3 core with 2 tiny cores in each so they call it 6 core but nobody care to make programs for such weird shit architecture lol if only AMD made fx with 3 fast core + 3 slow core instead it would be revolutionary at the time
@@EbonySaints my mobo gotten faulty sine a power outtage. So i had to change that to begin with. It was a combo, the new board and cpu, and discounted too!
i think this ryzen 4500 is meant for people with old or dead pc from the ddr4 era 5+years ago to make a quick upgrade to 6c12t the first thing to die is always the mobo so you can just transfer the ram, gpu, psu over and give your legendary gtx970 a new boost
Had this since February. The anaemic L3 cache is a bummer but I needed something so I could take the old processor and board off my main rig and put them on my mum's office PC.
Great video! I use a Ryzen 3 3100 which is in your video as a comparison! I’m really happy with it but will probably upgrade to a R5 5500 or 5600 if the price for the performance is right. Love the AM4 and see no real need to go for AM5 in the next 5 years! With a new GPU it will do even 1440p well👍🏻
Yeah, at that price point there's better options unless you really have to watch pennies. Tons of used r5 3600's out there for around $80, or buy a new r5 5600 for a little bit more. I saw amazon had a sale on 5600 recently at $120.
I upgraded my gaming pc from an Intel Xeon W-2135 (6core/12threads 4.5 GHz max boost) to an Intel i5-12600K last December. I think I’m starting to regret my decision of going with Intel now that LGA 1700 is officially dead(as in no more new cpus). I feel like I should have gone with a Ryzen 5 7500F. But it would have probably increased the cost of my whole build by $300 at least. I would need an expensive AM5 mobo and DDR5 RAM. My total build cost was $850. I have a RX 6700 XT, i5-12600K, 32GB DDR4 3600, and ASROCK Z690 Extreme mobo, a 1TB SN770 SSD, a Cooler Master 850W 80+Gold rated PSU, a MSI MAG ATX case, and a Thermal Take 240mm AIO(I got this for ONLY $40!!!!). So, was I right to go with the i5-12600K?
Oh hey it's my CPU! I bought it back almost 2 years ago as platform upgrade (had a i7 2600 rig which i only used for about a year after upgrading it so much over the years XD) Although i'm still bit bitter on not waiting for cheaper prices as i did buy it new in June '22 buut then again i was considering buying a used R5 3600, but since i heard some people having issues with them i decided to avoid it. Anyway it's still chugging along since then i don't really regret buying it, just regret not waiting a bit so i could've saved bit more money :)
That's my cpu too! I don't want a pc that has a power consumption of a whole kitchen appliances turned on. This cpu is perfect when electricity isn't cheap.
Interestingly enough, if you download chipset drivers for a b550 board with this CPU installed, It downloads and applies the ryzen power plans. (Which as far as I know and can tell those power plans are only really applicable to Matisse chips, not Renoir.) I noticed for myself that the windows power plans give me much better performance, fps and frametimes. I could not believe how dogshit my performance was using this chip until I switched back to the high performance windows power plan which gave me the performance I initially expected. Can someone verify this?
I'd like to point out that the power consumption of this little guy is absolutly nuts, sits at or below 20w most of the time while pushing +60 frames. I have this CPU in my laptop (5500u) and it's a joy to use, it shred through code compilation without any issues.
Usually, the 4500 and 3600 kinda switch places as the cheapest 6 core CPU. But what i find offensive is that even a Ryzen 3 3100 has PCIe 4.0, but even the 4500 and 5500 only has PCIe 3.0 and the 4500 in particular only has 3.0 x8
4500 are not meant for new pc builder if your old intel skylake mobo from 6+ years ago died you can just get this with a cheap mobo and transfer everything over your old pcie 3.0 gpu will get significant boost from 6c12t cpu
I have seen listings of this CPU recently, and I was already suspecting, that this CPU likely has bigger drawbacks. It's better to just spend a little more, to get a Ryzen 5600 instead
Built a similar system for a friend late August 23. You could get a new motherboard and processor for just slightly over the £100 mark. Second hand market for AM4 motherboards and Ryzen 2xxx and 3xxx processors was worse than what was shown in the video with prices being higher than the 4xxx series and even similar chips for "new". Intel you were getting hit by lack of availability on the second hand market and new still had the Intel tax applied. While compromised slightly, it's a phenomenal chip for the price.
Yes, but just like he said IF you dont wanna take a risk in second hand market, this 4500 is not a bad choice at all. Because i know some people dont comfortable to buy second hand, they better buy new with 3years warranty and all. At cost slightly worse performance. Well im one of them
@@pavelstoikov3780 You don't know how to use aliexpress. I've ordered many parts for PC off of it, and none of them died yet. This includes Gtx 750 (retired last year) in 2018, Amd athlon x4 640 (bought in 2017), intel xeon bought last year still in use, 1 kingspec 512gb sata ssd (in use), 1tb fanxiang nvme (in use)...
@@puffyips He literally covered it at the beginning of the video. If you go by the fact that the 5000 series is better than the 3000 series, which is better than 2000 and so on, the 4000 should be ahead of the 3000 series. But, it isn't. The 4500 has slightly lower clock speeds, 1/4 the L3 cache, and much less PCIE bandwidth than the 3600, it's direct "predecessor."
I got this for 55 bucks with a coupon for my little brothers old budget ryzen 3 build. Got him to stop stuttering in many games and hes super happy with a nice 1080p monitor. Cant beat that for a new chip
I actually got this one for my PC, because I needed something with ReBAR support for my Intel Arc A580. So far, I'm happy with it, the performance is good (I do gaming at 1080p and 60 fps), except I'll need a new cooler as well, cause the stock one just isn't doing it. Even with new thermal paste, synthetic stress testing leads to temperatures just over 90 C, which is pretty bad at stock clocks (at ~4.2 GHz boost), even if no normal workload pushes the CPU that hard, neither games, nor streaming, nor video editing or compiling code.
I have a 4350g that will do 4.7 ghz no issues, Rather surprised your cores would not budge! Also boards are super picky with what bios you use with these "g" series apu's (i know this is a 4500....but it is a G cpu still) They will work but you get odd cpu turbo behavior etc.
It's kinda disappointing when tech tubers ignore power efficiency when reviewing cpus & gpus. It's one of the things that affects my buying decisions when building a pc.
I just don't get it, yeah cutting corners, but down to 8 MB of L3, that's just crazy. AMD of all companies seems to get how important L3 is to frame rate stability and percentile lows, yet this is what they produced? If it had 16 MB, it would be passable, better than many Intel cpus, but 8? Yeah, it's budget, but that's just crazy.
To be honest its a good enough cpu if all you want is around 60 fps in almost all titles in medium to ultra (depending on tilte) settings. I myself have it paired with a GTX 1080 and are very happy with this combo.
recently got a Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G super cheap for 50€. Originally wanted to simply resell it on ebay for 2x-3x the price as these are PRO chips and seem hard to get hands on. One reason being, its an efficient APU due to monolithic design and due to PRO features, it also supports ECC (oposed to non-PRO APUs). Now i am unsure if I should keep it for said reasons. When i upgrade my main rig to AM5, i could throw that 4750G into my current AM4 board, sell my non-ECC Ram, buy some single ECC stick and upgrade my NAS to use ECC, while still running an efficient APU
This along with the RX6600 have been on my radar for some time now for a budget gaming build Though... The 5500 is only slightly more and has some extra cache too!
This has the same vibes as when Intel nerfed the Celeron by cutting cache. Would love to see this compared to that FX! The 4500 seems to be better value than the 12100F in most cases, especially when considering that you can get AM4 motherboards for same or less than LGA 1700 ones. However, LGA 1700 has better upgrade potential if you dismiss the power costs of the i7/i9 CPUs. Otherwise, I would simply always pick AM4 at this budget.
I started with this CPU on my first AM4 board (and a GTX 770 lol) but I upgraded to the 5800X3D and got an RX6800. I bought this CPU quite literally BRAND new when it came out for only $99, and was kind of disappointed in the absolutely horrible reviews it got. I think some reviewers forget that some people can only spend the absolute bare minimum, at this time I was saving money and paying rent for 2 people so I just needed a computer that worked for basic stuff. Considering I already had the GTX 770 and a case, I was plenty happy with spending $250 total to build a computer with a new CPU/MOBO/RAM. That same Motherboard (B450M) powers my 5800X3D+6800 and sits in a new case with an AIO and plenty of RGB. And even though I use it for video editing and photoshop as well, it holds up just fine when compared to how it started lol
3:10 they dont have "better memory controllers", they are monolithic and thus dont have constraint in form if infinity fabric that needed to be in 1:1 ratio with memory controller and memory for better performance.
If anyone is considering a 4500, you should also price compare with the 5500. Both processors have similar deficiencies (pci versoin), but the 5500 is a fair bit faster. In my market, the price difference for the uplift is about $7.
Nice review👍👏 The cpu didnt get enough love when released, not one good review by major tech channels. But it was soon dirt cheap and a good entry level modern cpu. Nowadays, Ryzen 5000 starts to become too cheap, in Germany the 4500 is 72 vs the 5500 at 90 Euro. 5600x is 100 right now. I upgraded several low end b450 boards with the 5500 which was available here for 90 Euros. This cpu is doing well even with low end (may i say bad?!) vrms.
Hey big fan i have a question is it worth it to get a high refresh monitor if my pc is weak My rig is i5 2500 gtx 1650 and planning on upgrading later in 2025 or 2026 And xbox series s And also can you do a video about getting high refresh rate on old cpus
🙂 gaming monitors are coming down in price, i recommend AMD Freesync Monitors, 24 27 32, 1440p, Hertz seems to be 120mhz to 165mhz seems to be the sweet spots rite now, also if you got room pickup a nice big TV 55inches or larger
@@Darth001 yeah, mine came at USD 350. I upgraded the RAM to 16 GB dual channel. That also bumped the performance of the iGPU. It's OK for older games and for general productivity.
@@konstantinlozev2272 think mine was an MSI gaming laptop with a rx560x 4gb, had 8gb ram which I did same upgraded it to 16gb. Also had 512gb m.2 SSD which I added a sata 2tb hhd firecuda to. Same as you played games made before it ok but new releases always had to play on low
I really wish the 4500 was the official consumer version of the Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G, but no, they turned off the GPU cores, and left it at 1/4 the cache per core of the 3600
Whats funny is that the parent die of the Ryzen 5 4500 is more expensive to manufacture than the 3950x. I have 3x4650G, and 2x4750GE, they are AMAZING processors if you're looking for efficiency, my 4750GE based server draws only 26w with all of the drives spun down, but all 128GB of DDR4 running (these used to be 4200 but i think i dropped it down to 3200 for power savings as this drops power usage on the CPU as well as the RAM) These APUs when pushed to the limit can hit 4600-4800 RAM but that significantly increases power draw, IIRC over 100w at the socket. The 5000G can top 5000MT/s RAM but arent as efficient as my 5700G clocked to 3Ghz(same as 4750GE) is using around 40w despite only having 32GB of RAM, not having 10x3.5 inch drives/drive controller and no high speed network. It may be the 12 PCIe TV tuners, not sure, could even be the different power supplies. Speaking on efficiency i hope to try tuning my 8700G, but still messing around with overclocking. Right now its running DDR5 8000 in gear1 using XMP profile(not an EXPO kit) I'd like to see how close to 10k i can get, and see if i can push the GPU to 3.4Ghz at those speeds.
Like these tests, but some results are really strange, I guess it is because of the platform settings. 140fps in wz is what I get with an 10400f with an vega 64 at 1080p basic for instance.
If this one had PCI-e Gen 4‚ it would've been an absolute banger. Though it is no problem for my country as we can still get the R5 3600 that is slightly more expensive (somewhere around 10 - 15 Euro more)‚ and it manages to deliver every bit of bandwidth RX 6600 would require. But for some other stuff than gaming‚ this CPU is really nice. I would love to see it compared to the Ryzen 5 3600.
@@itsatrap4986 sorry to dissapoint but where im at the 3600 is decently more expensive brand new, and buying second hand is not really great either as there are very few listings and it is just full of delusional sellers selling at close to a new one
Well young man as far as memory goes You might want to try V-Color I actually have a set of 4800Mhz and believe me it is extremely hard to find And I do mean ultra extreme hard to find your best bet would probably be either the 4600 megahertz Or the 4200 megahertz
That cpu most certainly is bottlenecking it. Only 8mb of L3 cache and gen3 support. My 6700xt was bottlenecked with a 5600x,5800x and 5900x. Once I went 5800x3D there was clear improvements in sustaining the FPS. Even at 4k that 6800 is getting held back at times. Wait for a good deal and move up to zen3 5600 or better. I’ve seen them for $80 on the local used market.
@@45eno Thanks , I am running AC Valhalla and RDR2 in 1080 Ultra settings 70 fps +, The CPU runs at 34% under load and the GPU 95-100% under load during gaming. With still an upgrade path to fully enjoy the XFX RX 6800 16gb , I will surely upgrade in the near future to a better CPU for AM4.
The Ryzen 5 4500 gets a lot of hate but after its price drop to $70-$80, it's a very solid CPU to buy new at its current pricepoint. Its only real competitor there is the i3-10100, and I'd say the Ryzen is a little better especially in multitasking. Maybe. That low cache might hurt it. There are better CPUs for under $100 though, the i3-12100 and Ryzen 5 5500 come to mind.
Probably the biggest competitor to the R5 4500 is it's predecessor, the R5 3600, which commonly costs about the same price as the 4500, but has 32MB L3 cache instead of 8MB, and PCIe 4.0 support instead of 3.0. At my local shops, it's a €2.50 difference in cost.
Have this in my homelab, pretty nice for something like that, cost me 40 quid and a 20 quid motherboard, sorted for less than any decent intel chip wouldve cost me. Just missing quicksync but i do mostly direct play/stream and the gtx 1050 handles the rest
my PC has a Ryzen 5 4500 and an RX 6400 (I didn't know this was a problematic Combination when i Built it 😭) I also have 16 GB of DDR4-2400 Memory too wtff why did I pair the 4500 with the Components that literally choke its Performance😭😭
On a side note, if you're on a B550 Mobo you probably wouldn't be looking at a Ryzen 5 4500 to begin with as it kinda defeats the purpose. If you're set on a B550 it's probably better to buy a 5600 instead as on principle if budget is that big of an issue you would have gone with a B450 instead as those are cheaper and would make more sense with a 4500 imo
I wish this was 5500, only bit more expensive but Zen 3 architecture (albeit with 1/2 of cache of 5600), and almost always sold at tipping point of 100$ (+/- 5).
Once I've liquidated a few assets, the 3600 is on my review shopping list. Could be a while though, I'm working on a big GPU project over the next couple of months.
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I was just comparing old CPUs with TH-cam this morning. A perfect one to end my binge
I have one of these paired with a second-hand RX 5600 XT graphics card and, while it might not set the world alight, surprisingly it has so far played everyhing I've thrown at it at 1080p on default settings, and stays cool and quiet. Very happy, for the price.
🙂 yes this tiny chip 🐢 pairs well with older graphics cards like a 970 1060 1070 470 570 480 580 and the RX 5000 lineup
@@MrSamadolfo cheap radeon 5000 is goated, got my 5700 xt for 130 usd
I use mine with a evga 980ti and it actually does very well on mid settings!
is it playable on Alan Wake 2 ?
@@a.bamatraf6054 I don't have AW2, but I doubt it! 😁
finally, i see my CPU on a big channel, this is what I have in my current/ first gaming PC
“Big”! 🥹
@@IcebergTech The quality of your videos reflect a big channel believe me
@@IcebergTech The quality makes me forget that this is a small channel
Wake up honey!! Iceberg Tech uploads a Ryzen 4500 video
I'm up
I’m too tired
Bro it’s noon lmao
Yes babe im waking up😴
This has become one of my favourite tech channels, with such high quality vids you're gonna hit 100k subs in no time.
Got to say, love those b-rolls! Lighting on point!
Keep up the work.
this and the 5500 are great for getting people into pc gaming. I've build cheap pcs with these for friends
I bought a 5500 2 years ago to upgrade from an R7 1700, it's been working a treat with my aging 2060S ever since. It's a perfect cheap upgrade for budget 1080P gaming, better frame times, random hitches gone etc and as my PCB is a B450 I don't have PCIe4 to miss out on either.
In Malaysia, if you look around the online store, you could buy AMD Ryzen 5 5500 with better performance, which is same price as 4500...
but funny thing is, 5500 doesn`t have PCI-E 4.0, 5600 have, but with +RM50 ($11 more), you can get Integrated GPU 5600G, but PCI-E 3.0.
Brain exploded 😇
Same in Indonesia. They're priced really tight together.
Okay the 4000MHz compatibility was interesting, NGL was amazed to see it actually work!
That’s my CPU
I have it paired with an 8GB RX580, it runs macOS excellently
Great video, as usual. This was actually the CPU that i bought for my recent build. Got to use it for a few months until I upgraded to a 5700X.
Overall, when paired with my 6700XT, the thing was doing just fine in esports titles like CS2, but in games such as RDR2 or Death Stranding, there was some big frame drops here and there, which was a bit annoying imo and also one of the main reasons why i upgraded to a 5700X.
That's my exact setup. I'm quite happy with it.
@@jonpeley Just upgraded to 5700x, found it cheap and gave my son the 5600g with a B450 motherboard, upgrading his Aliexpress special i5 2500 machine. Currently on RX6600 graphics. Hoping to pick up a RX7700XT or 6800 for the right price.
@@CaptainZombeh I had a 5600g (I still own it) and changed it for a 5700x. My GPU is a 6700XT. Quite happy with it.
I think this chip is just for people with old ddr4 PC that has Intel 6th gen+ with very few cores or dead mobo and has a favourite GTX 970 to do a quick upgrade to bring the PC back to life
all you need is this cpu+cheap mobo and you can instantly do the transfer with significant performance boost to 6c12t
This is also great for basic home servers. the monolithic die means no more 30w idle power usage! For a generic desktop where gaming isnt the main focus, its pretty alright. Its a 3600 alternative thats brand new.
My 4500 been treating me alright for a year, really nice CPU at a bargain price. Pairs well with my RX 6600, make a really nice, cheap gaming + productivity setup.
Might upgrade to a 5600 someday.
Once price drops a bit r5 5700x3d seems like it'd be a nice upgrade. Planning on that eventually for my 3600.
I'm not sure there's much value going up to a 5600. My system is about the same as yours, it's a 5500 with a 2060Super and for gaming I don't really see much point adding more CPU without adding more GPU. I'll probably wait until I platform swap next time.
@@darthwiizius Ryzen 5500 is a fair bit better than ryzen 4500 tbf. Ryzen 4500 is worse than Ryzen 3600. Also depends a lot on what games you play, some a better CPU can make a lot of difference.
@@Flyon86
It's a bit better (very slightly faster than a 3700X) but I think we're both still GPU constrained, except for in e-sports titles and emulation. But I suppose it comes down individual use cases in the end. If I pick up a cheap used 2080ti I reckon that will be more or less pushing the sensible limit of my CPU and system.
@@darthwiizius Yeah, although depending on your motherboard the 5500 could be causing reduced performance on you gpu too since it doesn't have pcie 4.0. OP said he had rx 6600, so switching to a ryzen 5600 should give him a bit of boost just due to that alone.
Personally I think moving up to a ryzen 5700x3d (or 5800x3d) makes the most sense for a substantial upgrade if you have a 3600 or 5500 etc. like we do and don't want to buy all new for am5. A lot of games like the big cache from the x3d and it should help with 1% lows a lot.
the fx cpus were found to be lying about core counts, the six core parts are actually 3-core 6-threads
its more like 3 core with 2 tiny cores in each so they call it 6 core but nobody care to make programs for such weird shit architecture lol
if only AMD made fx with 3 fast core + 3 slow core instead it would be revolutionary at the time
Honestly the sound at the very end of the video made me think my PC crashed or something
I love my 4500
I upgraded from a zen 1 ryzen and feels like heaven and hell
That's an upgrade that makes sense if you got it for cheap.
@@EbonySaints my mobo gotten faulty sine a power outtage. So i had to change that to begin with.
It was a combo, the new board and cpu, and discounted too!
i think this ryzen 4500 is meant for people with old or dead pc from the ddr4 era 5+years ago to make a quick upgrade to 6c12t
the first thing to die is always the mobo so you can just transfer the ram, gpu, psu over and give your legendary gtx970 a new boost
I like these chips, super low power draw and does everything I've thrown at it just fine.
You can't be throwing much ,,, my dog is tough because when I throw tissues at him he doesn't need to go to the vet
Had this since February. The anaemic L3 cache is a bummer but I needed something so I could take the old processor and board off my main rig and put them on my mum's office PC.
Great video! I use a Ryzen 3 3100 which is in your video as a comparison! I’m really happy with it but will probably upgrade to a R5 5500 or 5600 if the price for the performance is right. Love the AM4 and see no real need to go for AM5 in the next 5 years! With a new GPU it will do even 1440p well👍🏻
You could get a 5700x3d if you saved a little longer, they're $190 on Aliexpress currently. It competes with AMDs entire non-x3d lineup on AM5.
@@ALmaN11223344 not sure if my B450m motherboard would like this CPU so much 😅but thanks for the hint! Will check deeper on this
Nearly got one recently but thankfully ended up getting a 3600 used for cheaper
3600 is better, imo
@@StarCo11 yeah it is. the 4500 is basically a 4600G but without its graphics and slower clocks
Yeah, at that price point there's better options unless you really have to watch pennies. Tons of used r5 3600's out there for around $80, or buy a new r5 5600 for a little bit more. I saw amazon had a sale on 5600 recently at $120.
@@StarCo11no it's not idiot 😂
I upgraded my gaming pc from an Intel Xeon W-2135 (6core/12threads 4.5 GHz max boost) to an Intel i5-12600K last December. I think I’m starting to regret my decision of going with Intel now that LGA 1700 is officially dead(as in no more new cpus). I feel like I should have gone with a Ryzen 5 7500F. But it would have probably increased the cost of my whole build by $300 at least. I would need an expensive AM5 mobo and DDR5 RAM. My total build cost was $850. I have a RX 6700 XT, i5-12600K, 32GB DDR4 3600, and ASROCK Z690 Extreme mobo, a 1TB SN770 SSD, a Cooler Master 850W 80+Gold rated PSU, a MSI MAG ATX case, and a Thermal Take 240mm AIO(I got this for ONLY $40!!!!). So, was I right to go with the i5-12600K?
I think I have learned more about pc parts because of this channel more then any other place on the internet and i'm glad of it.
got my r5 4600g series.... it's awesome Upgrade since my old machine came from Core 2 Quad era 😂😂😂😂
Oh hey it's my CPU! I bought it back almost 2 years ago as platform upgrade (had a i7 2600 rig which i only used for about a year after upgrading it so much over the years XD)
Although i'm still bit bitter on not waiting for cheaper prices as i did buy it new in June '22 buut then again i was considering buying a used R5 3600, but since i heard some people having issues with them i decided to avoid it. Anyway it's still chugging along since then i don't really regret buying it, just regret not waiting a bit so i could've saved bit more money :)
unless the next chip shortage comes along prices will always fall over time so you can always wait and save a bit more so i wouldnt feel bad about it.
That's my cpu too! I don't want a pc that has a power consumption of a whole kitchen appliances turned on. This cpu is perfect when electricity isn't cheap.
Interestingly enough, if you download chipset drivers for a b550 board with this CPU installed, It downloads and applies the ryzen power plans.
(Which as far as I know and can tell those power plans are only really applicable to Matisse chips, not Renoir.)
I noticed for myself that the windows power plans give me much better performance, fps and frametimes.
I could not believe how dogshit my performance was using this chip until I switched back to the high performance windows power plan which gave me the performance I initially expected. Can someone verify this?
I'd like to point out that the power consumption of this little guy is absolutly nuts, sits at or below 20w most of the time while pushing +60 frames. I have this CPU in my laptop (5500u) and it's a joy to use, it shred through code compilation without any issues.
Usually, the 4500 and 3600 kinda switch places as the cheapest 6 core CPU. But what i find offensive is that even a Ryzen 3 3100 has PCIe 4.0, but even the 4500 and 5500 only has PCIe 3.0 and the 4500 in particular only has 3.0 x8
4500 are not meant for new pc builder
if your old intel skylake mobo from 6+ years ago died you can just get this with a cheap mobo and transfer everything over
your old pcie 3.0 gpu will get significant boost from 6c12t cpu
Always enjoy your videos
Still rocking my R5 5600x 🥰
That CPU is a champ!
I rock 5600G😆 a bit slower than your 5600X but still can do a great job at any game
@@prosecanlik4296the 5600 trifecta itself is amazing!
It's a great CPU that lasted me a long while before upgrading to a 5700x3d
@@Xatariel how is the performance difference between the 2?
Great cpu for my budget and "modern" PC gaming
*Been getting a fair few 4500s from Aliexpress for Budget PC flips*
If they are $500
@@puffyips I can build for about 350ish and sell for 450ish, made a few vids on them, however 5500 and 5600 can be had for not much more these days.
@@AlexHusTechi was going to say… next time get some 5500s. Make some kids happy for little to none price diff.
@@StarCo11 Yeah will do that in future, I got no more 4500s left so next order will be 5500/5600.
@@AlexHusTechtop man
Good luck
Good to see my CPU in your channel thanks ❤
Once, I built a custom liquid-cooled PC with this CPU. It still performs well to this day.
This was my first CPU
......yeah, Id say the $70 ish is pretty on the nose. I'd honestly recommend a 5600 if you can swing it
It was either going to be you or RandomGaminginHD that did this.
Congratulations on beating him to it.
Nice dub there at 5:52 Mr. Iceberg Man
Great video. Thank you.
I have seen listings of this CPU recently, and I was already suspecting, that this CPU likely has bigger drawbacks. It's better to just spend a little more, to get a Ryzen 5600 instead
Built a similar system for a friend late August 23. You could get a new motherboard and processor for just slightly over the £100 mark. Second hand market for AM4 motherboards and Ryzen 2xxx and 3xxx processors was worse than what was shown in the video with prices being higher than the 4xxx series and even similar chips for "new". Intel you were getting hit by lack of availability on the second hand market and new still had the Intel tax applied. While compromised slightly, it's a phenomenal chip for the price.
You can pick used 3600 off Aliexpress for around 60€. Pretty good deal. Also it outperforms 4500.
Yep, AE is quite cheap, can get 5600 for 70 on sales.
yep but I don't trust Aliexpress 😒😒
Not in every country
Yes, but just like he said IF you dont wanna take a risk in second hand market, this 4500 is not a bad choice at all. Because i know some people dont comfortable to buy second hand, they better buy new with 3years warranty and all. At cost slightly worse performance. Well im one of them
@@pavelstoikov3780 You don't know how to use aliexpress. I've ordered many parts for PC off of it, and none of them died yet. This includes Gtx 750 (retired last year) in 2018, Amd athlon x4 640 (bought in 2017), intel xeon bought last year still in use, 1 kingspec 512gb sata ssd (in use), 1tb fanxiang nvme (in use)...
I wish Amd would make less misleading naming schemes 😂
What’s misleading about a ryzen 5 4500
🙂 all manufacturers do it, you have to looks at the specs yourself
😂
PCI 3 VS PCIE 4 VS Cezanne vs Valmere vs Bios Updates VS Motherboard A B X , WTH???? 🤔😳😱
@@puffyips He literally covered it at the beginning of the video. If you go by the fact that the 5000 series is better than the 3000 series, which is better than 2000 and so on, the 4000 should be ahead of the 3000 series. But, it isn't. The 4500 has slightly lower clock speeds, 1/4 the L3 cache, and much less PCIE bandwidth than the 3600, it's direct "predecessor."
I got this for 55 bucks with a coupon for my little brothers old budget ryzen 3 build. Got him to stop stuttering in many games and hes super happy with a nice 1080p monitor. Cant beat that for a new chip
Nothing beats the r5 5600x
The 5700x is a better value sometimes its price is very close to the 5600x. My next CPU for sure
7500f
@@le_rat_moneurIf we're talking value nothing beats r5 5600, 7500f is the best next thing
@@vinylSummer Where I live the 5700x is on average 20€ more. Worth it more than worth it
@@le_rat_moneurno point of buying new am4 and if u have it already just buy 5800x3d.
I upgraded from a Ryzen 3 2200G to this Ryzen 5 4500. I am currently waiting for it from Newegg.
I actually got this one for my PC, because I needed something with ReBAR support for my Intel Arc A580. So far, I'm happy with it, the performance is good (I do gaming at 1080p and 60 fps), except I'll need a new cooler as well, cause the stock one just isn't doing it. Even with new thermal paste, synthetic stress testing leads to temperatures just over 90 C, which is pretty bad at stock clocks (at ~4.2 GHz boost), even if no normal workload pushes the CPU that hard, neither games, nor streaming, nor video editing or compiling code.
Got the 4700s for around the equivalent of 90USD. Thats Mobo+Ram+CPU.
Thats the only 4000 series I would ( & did) buy.
I have a 4350g that will do 4.7 ghz no issues, Rather surprised your cores would not budge! Also boards are super picky with what bios you use with these "g" series apu's (i know this is a 4500....but it is a G cpu still) They will work but you get odd cpu turbo behavior etc.
That would lend credibility to the idea that these 4500s were failed 4600G/4650Gs.
It's kinda disappointing when tech tubers ignore power efficiency when reviewing cpus & gpus. It's one of the things that affects my buying decisions when building a pc.
bro what is it with the *? isnt it obvius that nobody will sue you if you didnt include it
And 4500 also draws less than 30w even when fully used by the game
I just don't get it, yeah cutting corners, but down to 8 MB of L3, that's just crazy. AMD of all companies seems to get how important L3 is to frame rate stability and percentile lows, yet this is what they produced? If it had 16 MB, it would be passable, better than many Intel cpus, but 8? Yeah, it's budget, but that's just crazy.
Agree, 16 should've been min!
It gets worse; the 6 cores are split into 2 3 core CCXs that each get 4MB of L3
🙂 sure but its not horrible, its way better than picking up a Celeron or Pentium
They have to make different tradeoffs in these chip designs. The 4500 is very efficient.
To be honest its a good enough cpu if all you want is around 60 fps in almost all titles in medium to ultra (depending on tilte) settings.
I myself have it paired with a GTX 1080 and are very happy with this combo.
recently got a Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G super cheap for 50€. Originally wanted to simply resell it on ebay for 2x-3x the price as these are PRO chips and seem hard to get hands on. One reason being, its an efficient APU due to monolithic design and due to PRO features, it also supports ECC (oposed to non-PRO APUs). Now i am unsure if I should keep it for said reasons. When i upgrade my main rig to AM5, i could throw that 4750G into my current AM4 board, sell my non-ECC Ram, buy some single ECC stick and upgrade my NAS to use ECC, while still running an efficient APU
What the hell are those power consumption readings? Just 20 W is insane, it has to be wrong.
This along with the RX6600 have been on my radar for some time now for a budget gaming build
Though... The 5500 is only slightly more and has some extra cache too!
i've recently switched from ryzen 5 4500 to r5 5600x the difference is huge although this cpu is pretty solid i used for almost 1 year
I picked up a 8700k with mobo cpu cooler case 32 gb ram for 200 on eBay I added a 4060 and I’m loving it. I’m glad to see it tested in this video.
Intel & Nvidia ..... You really are an dumba ss
2600X . . 6c/12t , 4.25Ghz, 16MB L3 cache and can be had for $65 usd.
You are gaining 100 subscribers per video Mr. Iceberg, from my math you will get to 100k in no time!
AM4 is the gift that keeps on giving.
This has the same vibes as when Intel nerfed the Celeron by cutting cache. Would love to see this compared to that FX!
The 4500 seems to be better value than the 12100F in most cases, especially when considering that you can get AM4 motherboards for same or less than LGA 1700 ones. However, LGA 1700 has better upgrade potential if you dismiss the power costs of the i7/i9 CPUs. Otherwise, I would simply always pick AM4 at this budget.
I started with this CPU on my first AM4 board (and a GTX 770 lol) but I upgraded to the 5800X3D and got an RX6800. I bought this CPU quite literally BRAND new when it came out for only $99, and was kind of disappointed in the absolutely horrible reviews it got. I think some reviewers forget that some people can only spend the absolute bare minimum, at this time I was saving money and paying rent for 2 people so I just needed a computer that worked for basic stuff. Considering I already had the GTX 770 and a case, I was plenty happy with spending $250 total to build a computer with a new CPU/MOBO/RAM. That same Motherboard (B450M) powers my 5800X3D+6800 and sits in a new case with an AIO and plenty of RGB. And even though I use it for video editing and photoshop as well, it holds up just fine when compared to how it started lol
3:06 better memory controller (APU derived)
3:10 they dont have "better memory controllers", they are monolithic and thus dont have constraint in form if infinity fabric that needed to be in 1:1 ratio with memory controller and memory for better performance.
If anyone is considering a 4500, you should also price compare with the 5500. Both processors have similar deficiencies (pci versoin), but the 5500 is a fair bit faster. In my market, the price difference for the uplift is about $7.
sure, the prices dont make sense from location to location
Saw a new vid and almost spat out all mouthful of coffee onto my partner
You should definitely test ryzen 5500, it is a good balance for both cheap gaming and productivity.
Nice review👍👏 The cpu didnt get enough love when released, not one good review by major tech channels. But it was soon dirt cheap and a good entry level modern cpu. Nowadays, Ryzen 5000 starts to become too cheap, in Germany the 4500 is 72 vs the 5500 at 90 Euro. 5600x is 100 right now. I upgraded several low end b450 boards with the 5500 which was available here for 90 Euros. This cpu is doing well even with low end (may i say bad?!) vrms.
How about a video on the first I9 by Intel.
Id like to have seen the 3600 on the performance tables
I finally switched from X99 to Ryzen 5600
But I always wondered how 4500 stacks up against those Xeons
Hey big fan i have a question is it worth it to get a high refresh monitor if my pc is weak
My rig is i5 2500 gtx 1650 and planning on upgrading later in 2025 or 2026
And xbox series s
And also can you do a video about getting high refresh rate on old cpus
🙂 gaming monitors are coming down in price, i recommend AMD Freesync Monitors, 24 27 32, 1440p, Hertz seems to be 120mhz to 165mhz seems to be the sweet spots rite now, also if you got room pickup a nice big TV 55inches or larger
@@MrSamadolfo no i want 1080p
@@saiftube5833 🙂 sure, the 1080p, same specs but since they are 1080P you should be able to get them a bit cheaper than 1440p
@@MrSamadolfo like do you know cheap prices
@@saiftube5833 🙂 i don't know cause prices change but u can compare prices online for example at amazon or newegg or microcenter and many more places
Well, I bought a year ago a Ryzen "3000" laptop, only to learn after that it is actually a Zen+ architecture and not Zen 2...
Same 3550h wasn't happy but it did play games
@@Darth001 yeah, mine came at USD 350. I upgraded the RAM to 16 GB dual channel. That also bumped the performance of the iGPU.
It's OK for older games and for general productivity.
@@konstantinlozev2272 think mine was an MSI gaming laptop with a rx560x 4gb, had 8gb ram which I did same upgraded it to 16gb. Also had 512gb m.2 SSD which I added a sata 2tb hhd firecuda to. Same as you played games made before it ok but new releases always had to play on low
I really wish the 4500 was the official consumer version of the Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G, but no, they turned off the GPU cores, and left it at 1/4 the cache per core of the 3600
Whats funny is that the parent die of the Ryzen 5 4500 is more expensive to manufacture than the 3950x.
I have 3x4650G, and 2x4750GE, they are AMAZING processors if you're looking for efficiency, my 4750GE based server draws only 26w with all of the drives spun down, but all 128GB of DDR4 running (these used to be 4200 but i think i dropped it down to 3200 for power savings as this drops power usage on the CPU as well as the RAM)
These APUs when pushed to the limit can hit 4600-4800 RAM but that significantly increases power draw, IIRC over 100w at the socket.
The 5000G can top 5000MT/s RAM but arent as efficient as my 5700G clocked to 3Ghz(same as 4750GE) is using around 40w despite only having 32GB of RAM, not having 10x3.5 inch drives/drive controller and no high speed network. It may be the 12 PCIe TV tuners, not sure, could even be the different power supplies.
Speaking on efficiency i hope to try tuning my 8700G, but still messing around with overclocking. Right now its running DDR5 8000 in gear1 using XMP profile(not an EXPO kit) I'd like to see how close to 10k i can get, and see if i can push the GPU to 3.4Ghz at those speeds.
Like these tests, but some results are really strange, I guess it is because of the platform settings. 140fps in wz is what I get with an 10400f with an vega 64 at 1080p basic for instance.
Seems like that 'Snake oil' runs through all the 'teams' which is a bit of a shame for new builders who dont know these product codenames.
If this one had PCI-e Gen 4‚ it would've been an absolute banger. Though it is no problem for my country as we can still get the R5 3600 that is slightly more expensive (somewhere around 10 - 15 Euro more)‚ and it manages to deliver every bit of bandwidth RX 6600 would require. But for some other stuff than gaming‚ this CPU is really nice. I would love to see it compared to the Ryzen 5 3600.
This one was the one insurance replaced my old CPU with after it got fried in a power surge
Omg this is the cpu i have in my planned new 300 us dollar am4 pc build
Get the 3600 since it's $60 and is better in gaming.
@@itsatrap4986 sorry to dissapoint but where im at the 3600 is decently more expensive brand new, and buying second hand is not really great either as there are very few listings and it is just full of delusional sellers selling at close to a new one
Well young man as far as memory goes
You might want to try V-Color
I actually have a set of 4800Mhz and believe me it is extremely hard to find
And I do mean ultra extreme hard to find your best bet would probably be either the 4600 megahertz
Or the 4200 megahertz
Gaming for three years on my RYZEN 5 Pro 4650G , paired with a XFX RX 6800 16gb, no bottleneck yet.
That cpu most certainly is bottlenecking it. Only 8mb of L3 cache and gen3 support. My 6700xt was bottlenecked with a 5600x,5800x and 5900x. Once I went 5800x3D there was clear improvements in sustaining the FPS.
Even at 4k that 6800 is getting held back at times. Wait for a good deal and move up to zen3 5600 or better. I’ve seen them for $80 on the local used market.
@@45eno Thanks , I am running AC Valhalla and RDR2 in 1080 Ultra settings 70 fps +, The CPU runs at 34% under load and the GPU 95-100% under load during gaming. With still an upgrade path to fully enjoy the XFX RX 6800 16gb , I will surely upgrade in the near future to a better CPU for AM4.
I was just about to grab one of these before getting a ryzen 5600x, had a ryzen 4100 which was solid to
Ah dragons dogma 2. Such a great game. I can't even run it with a 7800x3d lol.
I was so hyped for this cpu
This is my current cpu, it served me well, might upgrade to 5600x since i already have 3060 Ti laying in my room waiting to replace my old rx5600xt.
The Ryzen 5 4500 gets a lot of hate but after its price drop to $70-$80, it's a very solid CPU to buy new at its current pricepoint.
Its only real competitor there is the i3-10100, and I'd say the Ryzen is a little better especially in multitasking. Maybe. That low cache might hurt it.
There are better CPUs for under $100 though, the i3-12100 and Ryzen 5 5500 come to mind.
Probably the biggest competitor to the R5 4500 is it's predecessor, the R5 3600, which commonly costs about the same price as the 4500, but has 32MB L3 cache instead of 8MB, and PCIe 4.0 support instead of 3.0. At my local shops, it's a €2.50 difference in cost.
Arguably the best entry level CPU for the AM4 platform?
Have this in my homelab, pretty nice for something like that, cost me 40 quid and a 20 quid motherboard, sorted for less than any decent intel chip wouldve cost me. Just missing quicksync but i do mostly direct play/stream and the gtx 1050 handles the rest
my PC has a Ryzen 5 4500 and an RX 6400 (I didn't know this was a problematic Combination when i Built it 😭)
I also have 16 GB of DDR4-2400 Memory too wtff why did I pair the 4500 with the Components that literally choke its Performance😭😭
Bought my 3600 in 2020 and I don't see myself upgrading anytime soon. I say it can last for another 2 generations.
How does this compare to the Ryzen 5 3600x??
Why not a curve tune and raise the power limits? If bios won't let you try PBO Tuner 2.
Why’d ya put the 7500f in only the jedi survivor bench? Would’ve been way better to see it in every game even if this is about the 4500
On a side note, if you're on a B550 Mobo you probably wouldn't be looking at a Ryzen 5 4500 to begin with as it kinda defeats the purpose. If you're set on a B550 it's probably better to buy a 5600 instead as on principle if budget is that big of an issue you would have gone with a B450 instead as those are cheaper and would make more sense with a 4500 imo
I wish this was 5500, only bit more expensive but Zen 3 architecture (albeit with 1/2 of cache of 5600), and almost always sold at tipping point of 100$ (+/- 5).
I have the ryzen 5 4600H on my laptop lmao
you should add r5 3600 data it cost same as 12100f and 4500 in the other parts of the world and it have full L3 memory
Once I've liquidated a few assets, the 3600 is on my review shopping list. Could be a while though, I'm working on a big GPU project over the next couple of months.
Which program do you use to record?
Wll done. I'm curious how it fares against the R5 3600 and R5 5500.
Both faster. 3600 is best because of the cache.