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One additional main argument, not discussed here, for colonizing Mars is that if humans were a 2 planet species then the risk of a planet wide disaster destroying us is obviated if our species existed on more than one world.
The problem with saying humanity will never achieve something is; it fails to consider where technology might be in hundreds or thousands of years. This is also true of claims humanity will never understand something, ignoring how much knowledge we can gain in hundreds or thousands of years.
Colonizing Pluto or the Kuiper Belt can be used as a jump-off point to traveling out of the solar system, and then in the distant future a hub for ships traveling in and out of the system.
You did not take other important factors into consideration, such as the evolution of the solar system. As the sun expands, in millions of years ahead, the earth will become too hot for human habitation and other erstwhile inhabitable bodies such as Mars and Europa may become more habitable. Thus, we should start exploring them now. What do you think?
It actually would be good to start a terrafotming or at least large domed super base somewhere else in the solar system for these reasons. And after that we should actually start looking for somewhere outside of our solar system. And its probably very extremely unlikely our civilization lives long enough, but the andromeda galaxy will eventually collide with our own and i doubt we would could accurately predict a place safe for this in our own galaxy, so we would have to search outside the galaxy. This is all in the context that our civilization never ends though but our time is coming sooner or later
Our hominid ancestors were around a few million years ago so it is not inconceivable that we will have descendants a few million years in the future. They won't be identical to us but they will have kinship.@@brianhammer5107
Yeah considering the sun won't reach that point for around 5 billion years(Andromeda will collide with the Milky Way long before our Sun becomes a Red Giant), I don't think we will ever have to worry about the Suns evolution before humanity goes extinct.
I agree that spreading out into the solar system in crewed vessels will be impractical for a long time to come, but at the same time, I think one should never say never. The pace may be as glacially slow as humanity's spreading out from the Rift Valley of Africa; perhaps taking centuries or even millennia. But, especially if the idea of large free-floating habitats like O'Neill cylinders ever takes off (which would encourage and even require the mining of worlds with shallow gravity wells like the moon or Ceres), it could eventually happen. It just won't happen in the optimistically short timelines like we see in such syfy franchises as Star Trek or Babylon-5; especially as I believe FTL travel never will be possible barring a major black swan event in our understanding of physics.
@@brianhammer5107 Possibly. Certainly never in *my* lifetime (I'm 67) nor likely yours or anyone alive now. But things may look differently a century or two from now. Remember, a century ago we'd just come off WWI, the atomic bomb was still over 20 years away, rockets couldn't even leave Earth's atmosphere, even computers the size of entire offices that were less capable than your standard hand-held calculator (let alone an IPhone) were also over 20 years away, electronics were on their infancy, and the world's population was only a quarter of what it is now. And that is just one century. Some humans who were infants or small children then are still alive now. Not many but some. No one living then could have predicted half of the scientific developments we have had since. And though equally great changes in hardware such as significantly better cars or aircraft seem unlikely now, developments in new meta-materials, power generation and storage, and even AI could change that too. They'd better too or the problems we're also creating such as climate change may set us back a century or two from resource depletion and so on rather than forward. And some of those needed resources *may* be attainable only off Earth.
You make many valid points. I am forced to disagree with some of your conclusions. Most of your ideas are based on all things current. What is will not remain. What will be, can not be perfectly predicted. Many years ago there were abundant resources available to the population of that time. The lands beyond unknown seas could not be guaranteed, to be survivable. The reasoning to attempt the journey was suspect at best. Yet the journeys were taken and most survived. New things were discovered and our earth became a larger place. There has never been a reason to go to Antarctica. It is hostile unforgiving and dangerous. Yet there is a permanent colony. Several manned year round. There will be colonies setup throughout our solar system, in my opinion. A off Earth economy will be developed. Mainly because greed is the main driving force inspiring humans since we put value on something. Space will change humans. It will require many years to expand beyond the moon on a permanent basis. Yet it will happen. Many advancements will be discovered or engineered to make travel and colonization easier and faster. Humans desperation to over come the obstacles we face will continue our expansion off the planet we evolved on. Much of our journey will suprise us. There will be many set backs. Eventually this same discussion will take place about sending humans into interstellar regions. In the end that will happen also. My only real question is in a million years will we realize that the intelligent aliens we have finally discovered are really just us. This is of course just my opinion. Thanks for the video it was excellent as usual.
Well I thought it was by far one of his most interesting and yet pessimist videos to date. Science and technology is forever expanding and moving towards the future. The future can't really be predicted, but Man's curiosity towards exploring, creating, and yes ultimately greed, says expanding into our immediate vicinity is not only likely but highly probable. We just can't help ourselves. Fame, money, and greed never has done out of style far as I can ever tell. I think he gives them way too much credit than history does. I'm all for it though.
@@artdogg50 it almost seems like the position he took was to stir a bit of controversy and maybe a little outrage from his audience. I don't claim to know the minds of others, and I am wrong quite often, or it seems that way. Anyway normally folks who demonstrate such a keen interest in a subject are not quite so dark about the future concerning said subject. The disinterest shown where advancing into our system and beyond goes must be a ploy of some type. The ideas about spreading out from our home are being created by some of the most brilliant minds this world has to offer. These are not the type that just fail and walk away. I wish that I would be allowed enough time in this life to witness the amazing things that will happen over the next say 500 years. I promise it will be indescribable. Mankind took motorized flight 120 or so years ago. Since then we have made air travel a mundane event we have created flying machines that to those from the Civil War times would appear God like. We have put boots on the Moon. Humans have sent robotic ships out of the system proper, and we are still able to communicate with them. We have telescopes that are in space allowing us ( people alive today ) the opertunity to see back in time to almost the beginning of everything. We live on a planet that is rich in resources yet does not represent to deep of a gravity well, making our escape completely or nearly impossible. We are very lucky beings. We as a species will accomplish things in the future that I don't have the experience to day to even imagine. So I hope before I'm done with this tour, with the time the universe has allotted me. To be allowed to see boots on Mars. To see permanent living structures on the Moon and get to know the ideas that will be the future of human exploration of our system and beyond. I'll take even more but that is my minimum. So they best hurry the hell up cuz I ain't getting any younger damit! Thanks for your reply and have a great night.
@@brianhammer5107 I do believe I said exactly that in the original comment. Oh and saying no offense does not make things not offensive. It seems a bit arrogant for you to assume what I am capable of grasping and what I am not. So I do take offense. Maybe reread what I wrote cuz I'm not sure you got the ideas I was representing.
I think we will use the moon for resources to build cheap aluminum panels and solar panels for near earth orbit labratories and industrial purposes. Id love to see a night sky full of O'Neil cylinders, each with its own unique enviroment.
The Kuiper belt would most likely be colonized with Habitats. Habitats seem to me to be the best idea for expanding off the Earth. They would be the only totally controlled environment mankind will find anywhere other than the current Earth. Making them a better option than a frozen dwarf planet.
You could make a tube structure to create gravity and drill it directly into the asteroid or comet, then using thrusters to orbit the craft slowly to its location. I always thought space mining would be easier if we collected asteroids and comets and slammed them into other planets in especially hard surfaces, then grabbing the remaining debris.
@dondattaford5593 To far behind? By what standards? We are doing fine progressing but it takes time, lots of time. If we launch a colony ship to Alpha centuri by the the end of the century we will be on schedule and doing fine
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@@CountryLifestyle2023 well if we didn't kept creating wars and other conflicts we could have been further in technology.
@ War furthers technology. So that didn't hold us back. And I was just asking by what standard are we behind? Because we are the only civilization that we know of so how do we judge our progress
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@@CountryLifestyle2023 progress though peace instead of wars. By waging wars the potential exists to lose knowledge too. And by giving good direction of goals and time frames we could have been further than we are now. Simply look at what is happening now all over the globe. All these conflicts also restrict access to resources for progress to occur efficiently.
Hello! At about 5and1/2 minutes in, you said kuiper belt objects would receive 1/5 to 1/10 the sunlight of earth. Don't you mean 1/900 to 1/1000, more or less? Check the average insolation at Pluto. Estimated amounts of sunlight ( from sol ) within our solar system are rather easy to measure. Basic math. 😊
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Interesting sceptic view in this video. Although you never know in advance what technology we will develop in the future. Global society has to change and probably will. Sadly we won't be around when all thi will or will not happen.
One could technically hop a ride to kuiper belt by hopping on Pluto at its closest approach to earth, and if it takes time to get there, one could examine pluto as they go, including putting habitat places on pluto, and study differences on Pluto as it orbits earth, possibly sending another set of Voyager probes, launching from pluto which is closer to solar system edge, but in my mind, it's just a thought that came to mind watching this video
Personally, I prefer days with no sunlight. The gloomier, the better. I've always been that way, and it's probably as great for me as sunny days are for other people.
I think we need to develop ourselves first to be able to survive on those remote plants. We will become mostly cyborgs and designter our bodies to adapt to the extreme contusions on the planets where we intend top live. We would need a strong motivation do do this what extreme wealth of massive resource potential. Otherwise we would never do it.
It's not possible under Capitalism. Truth is, Capitalism and technological advancement are beginning to distance themselves from each other and will soon no longer be compatible at all. We need a new system, we need to fix the problems on Earth and we need to evolve ourselves before we can ever reach space
Much more realistic than most stuff I see about colonizing outside of earth. Even if earth is trashed mercilessly by global warming, it'll still be better than any other place in the solar system. Take care of it; it's the only one we have.
A lot if not all, of the problems you mentioned can be solved just by not trying to colonize the actual planets, moons, or asteroids just by building space stations that orbit said planet, moon, or asteroids, and that way you can still mine for resources.
I think you underestimate the ability for us to interact with the quantum field. There are possibilities not far from reach. Terraforming is what i link to ponder. Putting genetically designed bacteria down to create the atmosphere we want, then move down and spread flora and fauna and then finally we move in. We have hardly begun with the new advanced technology. We got this
Mars is too damn small! Too little gravity! I'm hoping to find the Super Earth (MegaTerra), whose gravity and surface area is more than Earth's, that prowls the Kuiper Belt, affecting the orbits of so many Dwarf Planets.
The issue of there not being a lot a habitable planets in other star systems can be solved if we learn how to terraform, scientists have found alot of planets in other star systems that aren't habitable but are in the star systems goldilocks zone which would make them ideal for terraforming.
They're not nearly as close to each other as the video depicts. The Kuiper Belt is so vast, it's hard for us puny people on earth to even imagine. They rarely have any collisions in the whole belt, even though there's 100,000 asteroids. The New Horizons probe found Ultima Thule, the dumbell-shaped asteroid, because it was steered there. It's the result of two asteroids that collided and just stuck. There's hardly any gravity between them so it was probably slow-motion. And neither had enough gravity to compress their dust into any sort of hard rock. Overall density is 1/4 of water; kindof like dust-balls.
Normally I don't commet on videos I don't like, but I'll make an exception for this one. For a scientific content creator, this guy should think that maybe he's hurting Science more than he thinks he's helping. Skepticism is of course central to scientific research, but pessimism is not. We're not all driven by instantaneous pleasure and immediate reward. I give Enceladus an 8 out of 10 chance that we'll have a permanent base there within the next 100 years. As for colonisation, I disagree with the overall idea. We don't need to stay in any of those places. We just need to go there and experience new things. Then we come back, then we go back there again. We'll colonise somewhere when it makes sense to do so.
I think we need to figure out a way to travel vast distances significantly faster than we can imagine. Basically, if we had the technology where we could close the distance between our home planet and something thousands of lightyears away, in a matter of hours, we could find planets where we would not need to do so much work, just to survive in other star systems. I would say we are thousands of years from such advances (assuming they are possible) though.
Full Colonization of Mars would take more then tens of thousands of years it would have to involve artificially creating life that's suitable and capable to live on the surface of Mars humans can't do it alone Mars would need to go through extensive terraforming plant life and so on.
we could liver underground on mars using the surface for wind power and logistic and i would first send a drone of some type to the canyon on mars and find out what protection it can provide to a human colony
You're not taking into account that having all humanity on one rock isn't a good idea we need to venture out cause it's only a matter of time until we are the dinosaurs we have had a few recent near misses as well
Does Venus have any tall mountains near the polar regions? Could be one of the few if not only places to actually set down on the planet. Floating research stations would work, but you're one balloon mishap from horrible a melting crushing death. Finding a spot that can built upon is the only practical option.
I'd say once they get to the point of mining asteroid's this idea would be strongly pushed. Like an asteroid mining colony but again it would only be viable if they profit from mining an asteroid first.
We really need advance artificial gravity generator technology other than spinning..... And construct very large dome habitat with advance human habitat in kuiper belt large asteriods. I think we can find new kind of minerals probably not found on earth... Or How about ble to get exotic metals with properties that can help afloat a vehicle like it has very strong magnetic field from this far places.... We can build space hotels, space shopping malls from all the materials we gather...... Build space elevators as a catch and transport of space mined materials. we need to spread our population outside of earth
This video is ostensibly leaving out a potential great equalizer when it comes to terraforming, mining, exploration, and colonizing efforts in and out of our solar system. SRS (Self Replicating Systems) such as "Von Neuyman Probes" have the potential to take the weight of both effort and cost off of humanity for the lions share of all these efforts. Properly implemented they would be a set it and forget it system that would do the work without humanity having to invest more resources (other than direction and monitoring) into preparing other bodies for colonization. Yes there are massive complexities involved, and none of it would be over night changes, but imagine humanity designing, building, launching, and deploying a few hundred of these systems out to key resource heavy targets in the solar system with all the raw materials necessary to get the process started and sustained. The robotic systems take it from there. Given their ability to self replicate, within a few decades of deployment and the start of replication, there could be many billions of these robots actively working to achieve humanities goals in the solar system without consuming any further earth resources other than minor guidance of efforts, research and design updates, and goal prioritization. AI would handle the rest. They could literally have the ability to search for life and study it, dismantle entire lifeless planetoids and transfer their resources elsewhere in the solar system, build massive solar collectors, space stations, planetary solar deflectors, colonization facilities, terraforming of large bodies such as Venus and Mars, etc. It's very much a massive technological step forward, but it's a technology level that we are currently on the cusp of achieving with our AI, robotic, and Additive printing technologies. As far as interstellar or intergalactic travel. Perhaps we will never be able to do it in a single human lifespan, but if we master the SRS technologies, it is very feasible that we would be able to send human spacecraft armed with SRS terraforming platforms and genetic seed banks and cloning technology through the interstellar void to expand our species survivability.
Well in the future all planets will be populated as lol as we don't kill each other before that whe we will be able to make our entire planet habitable then we can also do it on other places
Big difference between Mars & the Austrailian desert, lmao. Mars is in the human psyche by nature with an unrelenting curiousty to visit, almost as if it's our ancestrial home beckoning to us.
Humans do not need to do any of these things. We can have robots mine everything build everything. If humans choose to move into these rotating habitats cool. We can make more humans :) Dyson swarm would take care of all the energy light heat we need even as far as the ort cloud
We need un maned machines that build a facility before we get there I could design that I. 2 months all space crafts would be able to build a structure for habitat for humans
How can you say, not colonising the space is something good? First of all, we cannot be sure we will survive here forever. Second, what does your life mean, if yoi just leasuire it all away? If we stay here, we will never answer qiestions that we desperately want to be amswered, we may get detroyed in the near future, and it's actaully a shame..so much universe, so mich beauty, we being probably the only civilization capable, and waste it all on a single rock.
Did our ancestors have your attitude to exploration and colonization we would still be dwelling on the African savanahs with stone chip technology, besides the sensible way to go would be habitats, why colonize various sized rocks when we could colonize space itself?
@Insane Curiosity And you say why we humans will never colonize Mars. Yet do a video why Colonize Kuipler Belt. Ok that's even more hazardous! Astroids fella, asteroids! One hit by one of these damn things will destroy a ship no time flat! That's something to be concerned about. i would. Colonizing Mars has more potential then some belt in space with freaking asteroids.
We can't colonize anything...space is a dangerous place and challenges are way too difficult to deal with..especially with the cost it would be need for solutions we don't even have..It is very nice to dream about it but lets just take care on our planet, the one we call home and which is made for us...our trees, our rivers and everything on it.
It's always hilarious how myopic so many people in 'science', are. To see how fast technology has developed in just the last 50 years. And think that in another 50 years we'll be using chemical rockets and gravity assist, to travel through space. Throughout history there have been many people who believed we had achieved the precipice of technology. But somehow we have continued to advance. Now I don't know the timeline but we will explore the solar system. And when, not if, space propulsion technology makes it feasible, mining asteroids will provide a massive supply of resources to continue to advance our civilization. The only way this doesn't happen is if our civilization gets destroyed before it can happen. And if you believe we will destroy ourselves, then you have a very poor opinion of humanity. But I think humanity has an unending curiosity about our universe. And just like the people during the age of exploration, that spirit will drive our push to the stars. Maybe I'm the one who's wrong about that aspect of humanity. But I am more optimistic about people.
Thease videos similar to movies are trying to push thease outdated notion that rocket is only way of traversing space time. And its missing the point. We literally have seen with our own eyes and even radars and captured thease things on video. Advanced technologies that helps "what ever pilots them" to traverse space time through out dimentions itself
It's all about energy. Energy cost money. Until technology brings us less expensive ways to power our spacecraft all this is just a fantasy. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with a little dreaming. But for now we need to more careful with the resources we have under our feet. But I will be the first to say, who knows what future technology will look like!!!!
I will laugh at you in 50 years after the Moon, Phobes, Demos, Mars, and Venus have millions of humans living on them! We could design a fusion pulse drive today and be ready in 5 years or less if politics allowed it to happen. This ship could reach Mars in about 3 weeks or less! We could get to Proxima Centauri the closest star to Earth after Sol - the sun -, in about 11 years.
I appreciate your brutal honesty, but I can’t help but feel that your prospects are a bit pessimistic. We can develop technologies to get to these places. We will crack fusion and reduce the trip time. We will persevere and build bases on these worlds regardless. If we do as you say; we will go extinct within a millennia.
Excuse me, but WTF????? Vampires, werewolves, seances? WTF does this silly mythology have to do with colonizing the Kuiper Belt? If this was an attempt at humor, it fell flatter than a pancake on a neutron star. Get you stuff in gear.
firstly, whilst i appreciate your subject material, you seem somewhat pessimistic as to our technological abilities going forward, secondly your forgotten an essential point, money doesnt actually exist, its nothing but a concept, its works merely because everyone agree's it does, up until the point where they don't, but that's a separate discussion. If one were to launch merely 4 space only ships (in principal, more practical with more but used for the sake of simplifying the argument), the cost of any and all materials extracted would be free except the cost of producing those 1st ships, it worth noting, 2 could be bases rather then ships or ships normally operating like bases, 1st you need a refinery ship capable of turning raw ores into production ready materials, this one would undoubtedly be the most expensive to construct and could feasibly be a small fleet of them with difference specializations, but practically you could make it within 1 ship, albiet a big one. Secondly you would need a construction/factory ship, it must be able to construct both ships of its type and the other types + contents plus future designs, thirdly you would need mining ship capable of extracting said resources for the 1st ship to use in the 2nd, and finally you would need a space only transport ship to shift stuff about, with that, even unmanned and ai powered, you could mine any resource said ships were designed to be capable of, and have the finished products delivered to anywhere of choice, including an earth space station, being able to replicate and expand itself where exactly would be the costs, other then the initial costs it would be from then on free, and such a system could supply the resources for any fancy far flung colonization efforts, for free, the only remaining cost would be launching the humans up to the freely produced colony ships, which in the short term will be bridged by starship and long term likely by space elevator's. If musk's starship achieves it's goal of 2 million usd cost per launch with 1000 tones launched, then well it would only take 200 million to launch a ship (in piece's ofc would need assembly by robots with a few more launch's) the size of those latest ford class aircraft carriers, which is actually a negligible cost in comparison with the price of the ship, obv design and construction would be the primary real world costs of getting the above ships into space, but with it you could end up with as many resources as are available, and sure earth has more but most of it is inaccessibly locked up within its mantle, whilst asteroids present far easier targets. One more point if you could get up to .9x light speed (tbh i forgot the exact number im quoting here, but im sure google can provide) from the point of view of the people inside the ship, it could take as little as 80 years to cross the entire galaxy, but the galactic speed limit actually works in favour of colonists even should ftl ever elude us, of course outside the ship a vast amount of time would have passed, but lets face it you can get volunteer's willing for such a trip, so the solar system is not the limit, it wouldnt bring much benefit to earth in the short term but i could see it happening eventually anyhow, why simply because it can, and human's have a need to explore, and to challenge oneself against new environment's. Side note, mars isnt as untenable as you think, instead of relying on a planetary magnetic field one could generate a powerful local one shielding the colonies, with a series of electromagnets, you could even deploy a few in orbit to boot, and as for engines, we already have ion engines, sure they slow to accelerate and visa versa but their speed potential is considerable and for more time sensitive purposes several engine designs have been proposed already, where there's a will there's a way.
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One additional main argument, not discussed here, for colonizing Mars is that if humans were a 2 planet species then the risk of a planet wide disaster destroying us is obviated if our species existed on more than one world.
The problem with saying humanity will never achieve something is; it fails to consider where technology might be in hundreds or thousands of years. This is also true of claims humanity will never understand something, ignoring how much knowledge we can gain in hundreds or thousands of years.
Colonizing Pluto or the Kuiper Belt can be used as a jump-off point to traveling out of the solar system, and then in the distant future a hub for ships traveling in and out of the system.
You did not take other important factors into consideration, such as the evolution of the solar system. As the sun expands, in millions of years ahead, the earth will become too hot for human habitation and other erstwhile inhabitable bodies such as Mars and Europa may become more habitable. Thus, we should start exploring them now. What do you think?
you won't need to worry about humans 100,000 years from now, let alone millions
True@@brianhammer5107. But always hoping that we don't blow ourselves up first.😂
It actually would be good to start a terrafotming or at least large domed super base somewhere else in the solar system for these reasons. And after that we should actually start looking for somewhere outside of our solar system. And its probably very extremely unlikely our civilization lives long enough, but the andromeda galaxy will eventually collide with our own and i doubt we would could accurately predict a place safe for this in our own galaxy, so we would have to search outside the galaxy. This is all in the context that our civilization never ends though but our time is coming sooner or later
Our hominid ancestors were around a few million years ago so it is not inconceivable that we will have descendants a few million years in the future. They won't be identical to us but they will have kinship.@@brianhammer5107
Yeah considering the sun won't reach that point for around 5 billion years(Andromeda will collide with the Milky Way long before our Sun becomes a Red Giant), I don't think we will ever have to worry about the Suns evolution before humanity goes extinct.
Insulation? You'd be surrounded by hard vacuum, it would be like living in a thermos bottle.
I agree that spreading out into the solar system in crewed vessels will be impractical for a long time to come, but at the same time, I think one should never say never. The pace may be as glacially slow as humanity's spreading out from the Rift Valley of Africa; perhaps taking centuries or even millennia. But, especially if the idea of large free-floating habitats like O'Neill cylinders ever takes off (which would encourage and even require the mining of worlds with shallow gravity wells like the moon or Ceres), it could eventually happen. It just won't happen in the optimistically short timelines like we see in such syfy franchises as Star Trek or Babylon-5; especially as I believe FTL travel never will be possible barring a major black swan event in our understanding of physics.
that 'long time to come' = NEVER
@@brianhammer5107 Possibly. Certainly never in *my* lifetime (I'm 67) nor likely yours or anyone alive now. But things may look differently a century or two from now. Remember, a century ago we'd just come off WWI, the atomic bomb was still over 20 years away, rockets couldn't even leave Earth's atmosphere, even computers the size of entire offices that were less capable than your standard hand-held calculator (let alone an IPhone) were also over 20 years away, electronics were on their infancy, and the world's population was only a quarter of what it is now. And that is just one century. Some humans who were infants or small children then are still alive now. Not many but some. No one living then could have predicted half of the scientific developments we have had since. And though equally great changes in hardware such as significantly better cars or aircraft seem unlikely now, developments in new meta-materials, power generation and storage, and even AI could change that too. They'd better too or the problems we're also creating such as climate change may set us back a century or two from resource depletion and so on rather than forward. And some of those needed resources *may* be attainable only off Earth.
@@jasontoddman7265 Nope. Not gonna happen, you don't grasp the engineering issues involved.
You make many valid points. I am forced to disagree with some of your conclusions. Most of your ideas are based on all things current. What is will not remain. What will be, can not be perfectly predicted. Many years ago there were abundant resources available to the population of that time. The lands beyond unknown seas could not be guaranteed, to be survivable. The reasoning to attempt the journey was suspect at best. Yet the journeys were taken and most survived. New things were discovered and our earth became a larger place. There has never been a reason to go to Antarctica. It is hostile unforgiving and dangerous. Yet there is a permanent colony. Several manned year round.
There will be colonies setup throughout our solar system, in my opinion. A off Earth economy will be developed. Mainly because greed is the main driving force inspiring humans since we put value on something. Space will change humans. It will require many years to expand beyond the moon on a permanent basis. Yet it will happen. Many advancements will be discovered or engineered to make travel and colonization easier and faster. Humans desperation to over come the obstacles we face will continue our expansion off the planet we evolved on. Much of our journey will suprise us. There will be many set backs. Eventually this same discussion will take place about sending humans into interstellar regions. In the end that will happen also. My only real question is in a million years will we realize that the intelligent aliens we have finally discovered are really just us.
This is of course just my opinion.
Thanks for the video it was excellent as usual.
Well I thought it was by far one of his most interesting and yet pessimist videos to date. Science and technology is forever expanding and moving towards the future. The future can't really be predicted, but Man's curiosity towards exploring, creating, and yes ultimately greed, says expanding into our immediate vicinity is not only likely but highly probable. We just can't help ourselves. Fame, money, and greed never has done out of style far as I can ever tell. I think he gives them way too much credit than history does. I'm all for it though.
@@artdogg50 it almost seems like the position he took was to stir a bit of controversy and maybe a little outrage from his audience. I don't claim to know the minds of others, and I am wrong quite often, or it seems that way. Anyway normally folks who demonstrate such a keen interest in a subject are not quite so dark about the future concerning said subject. The disinterest shown where advancing into our system and beyond goes must be a ploy of some type. The ideas about spreading out from our home are being created by some of the most brilliant minds this world has to offer. These are not the type that just fail and walk away.
I wish that I would be allowed enough time in this life to witness the amazing things that will happen over the next say 500 years. I promise it will be indescribable. Mankind took motorized flight 120 or so years ago. Since then we have made air travel a mundane event we have created flying machines that to those from the Civil War times would appear God like. We have put boots on the Moon. Humans have sent robotic ships out of the system proper, and we are still able to communicate with them. We have telescopes that are in space allowing us ( people alive today ) the opertunity to see back in time to almost the beginning of everything. We live on a planet that is rich in resources yet does not represent to deep of a gravity well, making our escape completely or nearly impossible. We are very lucky beings. We as a species will accomplish things in the future that I don't have the experience to day to even imagine.
So I hope before I'm done with this tour, with the time the universe has allotted me. To be allowed to see boots on Mars. To see permanent living structures on the Moon and get to know the ideas that will be the future of human exploration of our system and beyond. I'll take even more but that is my minimum. So they best hurry the hell up cuz I ain't getting any younger damit!
Thanks for your reply and have a great night.
apples and chalk - no offense, but you cannot grasp the engineering OBSTACLES to any such plan
@@brianhammer5107 I do believe I said exactly that in the original comment.
Oh and saying no offense does not make things not offensive. It seems a bit arrogant for you to assume what I am capable of grasping and what I am not. So I do take offense. Maybe reread what I wrote cuz I'm not sure you got the ideas I was representing.
@@jssomewhere6740 I love and share your more optimistic take on all of this. Thank you
I think we will use the moon for resources to build cheap aluminum panels and solar panels for near earth orbit labratories and industrial purposes. Id love to see a night sky full of O'Neil cylinders, each with its own unique enviroment.
The Kuiper belt would most likely be colonized with Habitats. Habitats seem to me to be the best idea for expanding off the Earth. They would be the only totally controlled environment mankind will find anywhere other than the current Earth. Making them a better option than a frozen dwarf planet.
I agree, habitats are the way to go, as far as I can see the only problems these present are engineering ones.
The effects of low gravity on bones would be a major problem.@@stenkarasin2091
Give me a millennium falcon and I'll tug these icy rocks to the Mars surface.
xD
Excellent video with which I have to agree, although dreaming of Solar System colonisation is enticing and nice.
You could make a tube structure to create gravity and drill it directly into the asteroid or comet, then using thrusters to orbit the craft slowly to its location.
I always thought space mining would be easier if we collected asteroids and comets and slammed them into other planets in especially hard surfaces, then grabbing the remaining debris.
We'll live in the ice cream freezer
well as long as there is Ice cream. :)
I've seen that episode of love death and robots
I'm sure you'll meet #JoeBiden in there!!!
I always wonder how long it would take (if we ever even can) to achieve the kinds of technologies that would allow us to journey so far in space?
We too far behind the moon should have long been an easy back and forth we just got umv on Mars
@dondattaford5593 To far behind? By what standards?
We are doing fine progressing but it takes time, lots of time. If we launch a colony ship to Alpha centuri by the the end of the century we will be on schedule and doing fine
@@CountryLifestyle2023 well if we didn't kept creating wars and other conflicts we could have been further in technology.
@ War furthers technology.
So that didn't hold us back.
And I was just asking by what standard are we behind? Because we are the only civilization that we know of so how do we judge our progress
@@CountryLifestyle2023 progress though peace instead of wars. By waging wars the potential exists to lose knowledge too.
And by giving good direction of goals and time frames we could have been further than we are now.
Simply look at what is happening now all over the globe. All these conflicts also restrict access to resources for progress to occur efficiently.
Gravity adjustments and life support are alot harder to achieve than any fantasies people have that it's just going to happen.
Mars in 10yrs? No chance. We wont go there for at least 20. Probably 50 or more.
I can see first landing happening in 15 or 20, but colonisation probably wont be for 30 or 40, maybe 50
The expanse😂
Hello! At about 5and1/2 minutes in, you said kuiper belt objects would receive 1/5 to 1/10 the sunlight of earth. Don't you mean 1/900 to 1/1000, more or less? Check the average insolation at Pluto. Estimated amounts of sunlight ( from sol ) within our solar system are rather easy to measure. Basic math. 😊
Interesting sceptic view in this video. Although you never know in advance what technology we will develop in the future.
Global society has to change and probably will. Sadly we won't be around when all thi will or will not happen.
If history is a guide, this could be a hellish prison work colony.
Very well done! Thank you for making and sharing this.
We are children of the stars .... And one day we will go back to the Stars ... And because we need but because we can
One could technically hop a ride to kuiper belt by hopping on Pluto at its closest approach to earth, and if it takes time to get there, one could examine pluto as they go, including putting habitat places on pluto, and study differences on Pluto as it orbits earth, possibly sending another set of Voyager probes, launching from pluto which is closer to solar system edge, but in my mind, it's just a thought that came to mind watching this video
Bummer I am so old ! .... would have loved to have been a belter 👌
Great video and information !
Personally, I prefer days with no sunlight. The gloomier, the better. I've always been that way, and it's probably as great for me as sunny days are for other people.
As a night owl I second this.
I think we need to develop ourselves first to be able to survive on those remote plants. We will become mostly cyborgs and designter our bodies to adapt to the extreme contusions on the planets where we intend top live. We would need a strong motivation do do this what extreme wealth of massive resource potential. Otherwise we would never do it.
cyborgs? not
Why would we need to be cyborgs?
Just build a functional spacesuit
people will become cyborgs by choice as it will be part of life extension and improved senses or intelligence.@@deadriver
It's not possible under Capitalism. Truth is, Capitalism and technological advancement are beginning to distance themselves from each other and will soon no longer be compatible at all.
We need a new system, we need to fix the problems on Earth and we need to evolve ourselves before we can ever reach space
I do agree Transhumanism is something that will make colonisation of other bodies far easier
Much more realistic than most stuff I see about colonizing outside of earth.
Even if earth is trashed mercilessly by global warming, it'll still be better than any other place in the solar system. Take care of it; it's the only one we have.
A lot if not all, of the problems you mentioned can be solved just by not trying to colonize the actual planets, moons, or asteroids just by building space stations that orbit said planet, moon, or asteroids, and that way you can still mine for resources.
I think you underestimate the ability for us to interact with the quantum field. There are possibilities not far from reach. Terraforming is what i link to ponder. Putting genetically designed bacteria down to create the atmosphere we want, then move down and spread flora and fauna and then finally we move in. We have hardly begun with the new advanced technology. We got this
That doesn't happen overnight unfortunately, it wouldn't happen in 3 lifetimes...
Mars is too damn small!
Too little gravity!
I'm hoping to find the Super Earth (MegaTerra), whose gravity and surface area is more than Earth's, that prowls the Kuiper Belt, affecting the orbits of so many Dwarf Planets.
If we ever are able to develop the technology to build huge O"neal colonies I suspect that's where most humans will want to live off Earth.
The issue of there not being a lot a habitable planets in other star systems can be solved if we learn how to terraform, scientists have found alot of planets in other star systems that aren't habitable but are in the star systems goldilocks zone which would make them ideal for terraforming.
Do those big rocks bounce off each other randomly or are they floating in some order?
I don't think they bounce so much as crash.
They're not nearly as close to each other as the video depicts. The Kuiper Belt is so vast, it's hard for us puny people on earth to even imagine. They rarely have any collisions in the whole belt, even though there's 100,000 asteroids.
The New Horizons probe found Ultima Thule, the dumbell-shaped asteroid, because it was steered there. It's the result of two asteroids that collided and just stuck. There's hardly any gravity between them so it was probably slow-motion. And neither had enough gravity to compress their dust into any sort of hard rock. Overall density is 1/4 of water; kindof like dust-balls.
Normally I don't commet on videos I don't like, but I'll make an exception for this one. For a scientific content creator, this guy should think that maybe he's hurting Science more than he thinks he's helping. Skepticism is of course central to scientific research, but pessimism is not. We're not all driven by instantaneous pleasure and immediate reward. I give Enceladus an 8 out of 10 chance that we'll have a permanent base there within the next 100 years. As for colonisation, I disagree with the overall idea. We don't need to stay in any of those places. We just need to go there and experience new things. Then we come back, then we go back there again. We'll colonise somewhere when it makes sense to do so.
the space colonization depends on how long we can extende human life, how fast we can travel, how big humanity can grow.
Good point! Thanks for watching!
I would like to make a video about space mining 😊
I think we need to figure out a way to travel vast distances significantly faster than we can imagine. Basically, if we had the technology where we could close the distance between our home planet and something thousands of lightyears away, in a matter of hours, we could find planets where we would not need to do so much work, just to survive in other star systems. I would say we are thousands of years from such advances (assuming they are possible) though.
We haven’t even terraformed our own deserts yet.
Every single day that pass, we are getting there.
I honestly feel that earth is the only planet humans will ever live. When it dies humanity dies with it...if not before earth dies
Pretty sure they are already planning a trip to eauropa to see if there is water beneath the frozen shell
Ya think it’s gets depressing in the Arctic or Antarctica with no Sun? It would be a whole lot worse out beyond Pluto.
If We want to discover other Life, We should look to Solar Systems that have little to no "Free Floating" resources.
Full Colonization of Mars would take more then tens of thousands of years it would have to involve artificially creating life that's suitable and capable to live on the surface of Mars humans can't do it alone Mars would need to go through extensive terraforming plant life and so on.
The trend is certainly to *talk* about colonizing mars lol.
Pack a little more into that pipe. You never got enough last session.
we could liver underground on mars using the surface for wind power and logistic and i would first send a drone of some type to the canyon on mars and find out what protection it can provide to a human colony
What if you can build a dome world😊
We can never even travel beyond Jupiter
You're not taking into account that having all humanity on one rock isn't a good idea we need to venture out cause it's only a matter of time until we are the dinosaurs we have had a few recent near misses as well
Be careful, don't sail over the horizon or you may fall the edge of the Earth.
Does Venus have any tall mountains near the polar regions? Could be one of the few if not only places to actually set down on the planet. Floating research stations would work, but you're one balloon mishap from horrible a melting crushing death. Finding a spot that can built upon is the only practical option.
If we can't figure out how to survive and colonize Mars, how the heck do we survive way out past the orbit of Pluto?
build a fully functioning long term habitat on Antarctica or the bottom of the ocean first and then I'll believe any of this nonsense is possible.
Titan giving nibiru viibes.
Kuiper belt seems a lot better to live rather than venus, jupiter, saturn, pluto, Uranus
I'd say once they get to the point of mining asteroid's this idea would be strongly pushed. Like an asteroid mining colony but again it would only be viable if they profit from mining an asteroid first.
We really need advance artificial gravity generator technology other than spinning..... And construct very large dome habitat with advance human habitat in kuiper belt large asteriods.
I think we can find new kind of minerals probably not found on earth... Or How about ble to get exotic metals with properties that can help afloat a vehicle like it has very strong magnetic field from this far places.... We can build space hotels, space shopping malls from all the materials we gather...... Build space elevators as a catch and transport of space mined materials. we need to spread our population outside of earth
Are we looking at the asteroids or the kuiper?!
10 out of 10 we make our own planets..a superhuman intelligent roaming through the never..for a short live and old human..
is it just me or did they forget that 1000 millions is a billion
Can’t believe/trust anything said here once you hear “…:this is all true, but also all false”.
See you in the Oort cloud!
This video is ostensibly leaving out a potential great equalizer when it comes to terraforming, mining, exploration, and colonizing efforts in and out of our solar system. SRS (Self Replicating Systems) such as "Von Neuyman Probes" have the potential to take the weight of both effort and cost off of humanity for the lions share of all these efforts. Properly implemented they would be a set it and forget it system that would do the work without humanity having to invest more resources (other than direction and monitoring) into preparing other bodies for colonization. Yes there are massive complexities involved, and none of it would be over night changes, but imagine humanity designing, building, launching, and deploying a few hundred of these systems out to key resource heavy targets in the solar system with all the raw materials necessary to get the process started and sustained. The robotic systems take it from there. Given their ability to self replicate, within a few decades of deployment and the start of replication, there could be many billions of these robots actively working to achieve humanities goals in the solar system without consuming any further earth resources other than minor guidance of efforts, research and design updates, and goal prioritization. AI would handle the rest. They could literally have the ability to search for life and study it, dismantle entire lifeless planetoids and transfer their resources elsewhere in the solar system, build massive solar collectors, space stations, planetary solar deflectors, colonization facilities, terraforming of large bodies such as Venus and Mars, etc. It's very much a massive technological step forward, but it's a technology level that we are currently on the cusp of achieving with our AI, robotic, and Additive printing technologies.
As far as interstellar or intergalactic travel. Perhaps we will never be able to do it in a single human lifespan, but if we master the SRS technologies, it is very feasible that we would be able to send human spacecraft armed with SRS terraforming platforms and genetic seed banks and cloning technology through the interstellar void to expand our species survivability.
Can we? Yes, in a Billion Years. As for today, lets start with world hunger. This is a pointless subject currently.
Why ? , I mean really why. Not a bunch of B.S but some really good reasons why.
Go right ahead! Don't let us stop you. Be sure to write...
LOL
Well in the future all planets will be populated as lol as we don't kill each other before that whe we will be able to make our entire planet habitable then we can also do it on other places
Big difference between Mars & the Austrailian desert, lmao. Mars is in the human psyche by nature with an unrelenting curiousty to visit, almost as if it's our ancestrial home beckoning to us.
Why isn't anyone seriously trying to figure out this
Humans do not need to do any of these things. We can have robots mine everything build everything. If humans choose to move into these rotating habitats cool. We can make more humans :) Dyson swarm would take care of all the energy light heat we need even as far as the ort cloud
How are you going to produce potable water and food?.
We cant even colonize the moon lmfao!
We need un maned machines that build a facility before we get there I could design that I. 2 months all space crafts would be able to build a structure for habitat for humans
With all due respect. What an absolutely ridiculous question to pose
How can you say, not colonising the space is something good? First of all, we cannot be sure we will survive here forever. Second, what does your life mean, if yoi just leasuire it all away? If we stay here, we will never answer qiestions that we desperately want to be amswered, we may get detroyed in the near future, and it's actaully a shame..so much universe, so mich beauty, we being probably the only civilization capable, and waste it all on a single rock.
Did our ancestors have your attitude to exploration and colonization we would still be dwelling on the African savanahs with stone chip technology, besides the sensible way to go would be habitats, why colonize various sized rocks when we could colonize space itself?
Nice
@Insane Curiosity
And you say why we humans will never colonize Mars. Yet do a video why Colonize Kuipler Belt. Ok that's even more hazardous! Astroids fella, asteroids! One hit by one of these damn things will destroy a ship no time flat! That's something to be concerned about. i would. Colonizing Mars has more potential then some belt in space with freaking asteroids.
We can't colonize anything...space is a dangerous place and challenges are way too difficult to deal with..especially with the cost it would be need for solutions we don't even have..It is very nice to dream about it but lets just take care on our planet, the one we call home and which is made for us...our trees, our rivers and everything on it.
2033, lmao. Bro, it's a wrap in 2030.
2:22 and 10:40
It's always hilarious how myopic so many people in 'science', are.
To see how fast technology has developed in just the last 50 years. And think that in another 50 years we'll be using chemical rockets and gravity assist, to travel through space.
Throughout history there have been many people who believed we had achieved the precipice of technology. But somehow we have continued to advance.
Now I don't know the timeline but we will explore the solar system. And when, not if, space propulsion technology makes it feasible, mining asteroids will provide a massive supply of resources to continue to advance our civilization.
The only way this doesn't happen is if our civilization gets destroyed before it can happen. And if you believe we will destroy ourselves, then you have a very poor opinion of humanity.
But I think humanity has an unending curiosity about our universe. And just like the people during the age of exploration, that spirit will drive our push to the stars.
Maybe I'm the one who's wrong about that aspect of humanity. But I am more optimistic about people.
Thease videos similar to movies are trying to push thease outdated notion that rocket is only way of traversing space time. And its missing the point. We literally have seen with our own eyes and even radars and captured thease things on video. Advanced technologies that helps "what ever pilots them" to traverse space time through out dimentions itself
Colonize? I think Not..
Thank you for sharing, IC..💖
It is possible for human's to land in proxima sentury in next 50 years.
@@basupandey3866 Proxima Centauri B.
50 years? I doubt it - perhaps 200 - 400
Never say never
Extremely pessimistic but probably right
It's all about energy. Energy cost money. Until technology brings us less expensive ways to power our spacecraft all this is just a fantasy. Don't get me wrong, nothing wrong with a little dreaming. But for now we need to more careful with the resources we have under our feet. But I will be the first to say, who knows what future technology will look like!!!!
Total lack of vision. Fortunately, this will all be proven false in the next few decades, not in centuries or millennia.
I will laugh at you in 50 years after the Moon, Phobes, Demos, Mars, and Venus have millions of humans living on them! We could design a fusion pulse drive today and be ready in 5 years or less if politics allowed it to happen. This ship could reach Mars in about 3 weeks or less! We could get to Proxima Centauri the closest star to Earth after Sol - the sun -, in about 11 years.
What will we do there?
I appreciate your brutal honesty, but I can’t help but feel that your prospects are a bit pessimistic. We can develop technologies to get to these places. We will crack fusion and reduce the trip time. We will persevere and build bases on these worlds regardless.
If we do as you say; we will go extinct within a millennia.
Grooming for Trans-Neptunians? I prefer the Asteroid Belt; much better ability to interact and trade with Earth.
Excuse me, but WTF????? Vampires, werewolves, seances? WTF does this silly mythology have to do with colonizing the Kuiper Belt? If this was an attempt at humor, it fell flatter than a pancake on a neutron star.
Get you stuff in gear.
What for? To fill it with garbage, plastic and toxic chemicals?? What an irresponsible way of thinking
Naah
He was trying to be funny or entertaining
Wow! Why did you go to the effort to even make this video? Humans will do what other humans, like you say, can't be done. By By Luddite.
Turnign into the devil, vampires with ionians ... and the forced "lol" at the end, Haha cringe, keep it up.
firstly, whilst i appreciate your subject material, you seem somewhat pessimistic as to our technological abilities going forward, secondly your forgotten an essential point, money doesnt actually exist, its nothing but a concept, its works merely because everyone agree's it does, up until the point where they don't, but that's a separate discussion.
If one were to launch merely 4 space only ships (in principal, more practical with more but used for the sake of simplifying the argument), the cost of any and all materials extracted would be free except the cost of producing those 1st ships, it worth noting, 2 could be bases rather then ships or ships normally operating like bases, 1st you need a refinery ship capable of turning raw ores into production ready materials, this one would undoubtedly be the most expensive to construct and could feasibly be a small fleet of them with difference specializations, but practically you could make it within 1 ship, albiet a big one.
Secondly you would need a construction/factory ship, it must be able to construct both ships of its type and the other types + contents plus future designs, thirdly you would need mining ship capable of extracting said resources for the 1st ship to use in the 2nd, and finally you would need a space only transport ship to shift stuff about, with that, even unmanned and ai powered, you could mine any resource said ships were designed to be capable of, and have the finished products delivered to anywhere of choice, including an earth space station, being able to replicate and expand itself where exactly would be the costs, other then the initial costs it would be from then on free, and such a system could supply the resources for any fancy far flung colonization efforts, for free, the only remaining cost would be launching the humans up to the freely produced colony ships, which in the short term will be bridged by starship and long term likely by space elevator's.
If musk's starship achieves it's goal of 2 million usd cost per launch with 1000 tones launched, then well it would only take 200 million to launch a ship (in piece's ofc would need assembly by robots with a few more launch's) the size of those latest ford class aircraft carriers, which is actually a negligible cost in comparison with the price of the ship, obv design and construction would be the primary real world costs of getting the above ships into space, but with it you could end up with as many resources as are available, and sure earth has more but most of it is inaccessibly locked up within its mantle, whilst asteroids present far easier targets.
One more point if you could get up to .9x light speed (tbh i forgot the exact number im quoting here, but im sure google can provide) from the point of view of the people inside the ship, it could take as little as 80 years to cross the entire galaxy, but the galactic speed limit actually works in favour of colonists even should ftl ever elude us, of course outside the ship a vast amount of time would have passed, but lets face it you can get volunteer's willing for such a trip, so the solar system is not the limit, it wouldnt bring much benefit to earth in the short term but i could see it happening eventually anyhow, why simply because it can, and human's have a need to explore, and to challenge oneself against new environment's.
Side note, mars isnt as untenable as you think, instead of relying on a planetary magnetic field one could generate a powerful local one shielding the colonies, with a series of electromagnets, you could even deploy a few in orbit to boot, and as for engines, we already have ion engines, sure they slow to accelerate and visa versa but their speed potential is considerable and for more time sensitive purposes several engine designs have been proposed already, where there's a will there's a way.