I know you don't want to hear this but do yourself a favor and take that block to the machine shop and have the main caps measured for stock spec. I spent a month on my b20vtec build fighting with bearing clearances and then finally took it to my machine shop and found that 4 out of 5 of my main caps were a full .001" too tight vs stock spec and the other one was .002" too tight. He line honed them into spec and standard sizes bearings measured out perfect. B20's were not machined as carefully by honda as other b series engines.
I appreciate the input brotha, I know you probably don't want to hear this but it's not that serious. You would have been fine not line honing your block over .001-..002. Machine shop seen you coming.
That's where you are wrong. With those main cap specs I was unable to get my bearing clearances even close to honda spec. But it's not my engine so if you want to run bearings with no oil clearance, that is your choice. The machine shop didn't see me coming, I couldn't get my clearances in spec so I took it in and showed him how tight my clearances were and he measured the main cap size with me there. He didn't want to line hone it when I called him on the phone, he only did it for me after we measured the clearances together. I'm not a novice at building engines but loke I said before, it's your build and not mine.
@@frdbtr was it a custom made crank or something? I'm just curious if this was a factory crank, factory block.. the crank grew? I understand if you're using arp main bolts.. then you're tightening the caps more that factory and it will squeeze the tolerance smaller but I won't have that issue. I have a factory crank, block.. standard size. I removed standard size bearings and I'm going to put standard size bearings back in. I'm not an engine builder either but that just makes sense to me.
I’ve always used the service manual to get the oem bearing sizes using the color code chart. The block and cranks have identifying marks to let you know the bearing sizes. Unless the engine has a lot of wear, this chart should work fine.
@@deadbeatgarage It was an oem b20z2 from a non running crv. The bearing colors were clear on it so I decided to go with all oem bearings with the same colors. I told my tuner what I was doing and his exact words were "make sure you measure clearances anyway because honda wasn't as careful with them as they would have been with a type r". Long story short the honda bearings were way to tight so I ordered the budget king bearings standard size, way too tight. I called my machine shop and told him I wanted him to clearance my main cap bearing lands and he didn't want to do it so I loaded my crank and block with the standard size bearings installed and took it into him, he confirmed my findings with the amount if clearance I was seeing so we pulled the bearings and measured the bearing journal lands without any bearings and they were out of spec. I'm confused to this day how honda was running the bearings in that block that they were. My situation may be a one off, you may be totally fine to go with acl standard size bearings just make sure you, at least, plastigauge the bearings and make sure they are within spec. I've built 2 other b18c blocks one with an ls crank and never had this issue, did a d16a6 and slapped in a set of king standard bearings in that, all measured within spec. If I do another b20 though, I will probably not even bother with it until I take it to the machine shop and have the main cap journal lands machined into spec. By the way I was using oem main cap bolts, not arp. Good luck with the build I started watching your channel because of Khaki when you and Braven did that skit where you knocked the windshield out with a hammer and you blamed Braven. Cracked me up and I've been subscribed ever since.
So fyi. That is exactly how we did the cleaning process at the machine shop. And exactly as he said. As long as u oil it up right after u clean it .. ur good! Nice to see the block all clean!!!
I believe Rev hang is in the tune. The ecu allows the idle to come down slowly due to the catalytic converters (you don't have any but from factory, the vehicle the ecu came out of does) the ecu does this to burn off excess fuel that's still in the engine to keep the cat clean
I’ve boosted 3 b20s on 11 psi drove them 100 miles a day revved them to 8k beat them hard and they all lasted about 8 months to a year before I spun a bearing. Never cracked a sleeve. I think they would’ve lasted longer if I didn’t have such a rowdy ak47 2 step on them. I have a video on my channel where I made 339 on a stock b20V 11 psi all eBay stuff lol
yep, since the block is opened and inspected.. mind as well throw some new bearings in it.. ACL or kings are both my preference. cheap build the other b20 as high comp with Nippon pistons and scat rods on ITR specs and SenD IT! fawk it lol
@@deadbeatgarage no I’ve been watching you for a long time now and I must say I like your content but you need to stop getting mad at the comments , this is why I put a laughing emoji , you need to start being friendlier with the people who follow you and those who find you in public! Be more humble and know that making noise and pissing off your neighbors every chance is damned childish homeboy, start showing respect to people and then maybe you’ll gain the respect of followers and your channel will grow! But if you keep being a pissed off individual then you’ll only have those followers that are always mad at those who don’t approve of their actions, plus you’re a father of a special kind of kid that needs attention 100% of the time which is why you should be respectful of your surroundings and people within them. Remember that!
I built my engine bearings rods studs oil pump ect in my bedroom fam ... so I deff feel you got this no problem fam and yeah only run acl or king bearings and thrust washers in my personal experience... mad respect bro and I'm living seeing khaki back in action bro ... peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z #DBFamStrong #BuiltNotBought #WhoopWhoop
Hell yeah, brother, I rebuilt my D16A6 a few years back and had never done a rebuild before. I was stressed about it at first, but it ended up being way easier than I expected. Use some quality parts, take your time, and recheck your work. You'll have it up and running in no time. Keep up the great work brother.
If you're gonna start doing rotating assembly first things you need is a good torque wrench and some good assembly lube, travel dial and digital caliper.. harbor freight has most of that
I enjoy your videos bro, but I really can’t wait for you to dig in to the Ef. That is the car that got me watching your channel but I also enjoy all your other projects.
If you're sending the other block to install the forged internals, just made sure to resleeve the stock block, as the stock walls are prone to crack around the water jacket/between cylinders after 350whp.
Make sure to run your stock cams if your planning on using the stock pistons in the b20. The valve reliefs are not deep enough to clear valves for bigger cam profile just a heads up 🤙🏼
I always thought you had to get new bearings if you washed/ hot tanked the inside. Just so bearings don't rust and lock up. Otherwise dope bro, glad to see progress on the car that made me start watching to begin with many moons ago.
King bearings imo are better than acl, most high hp b series run them, my 845hp lsv ran king bearings and never had any issues, I’d say check if you can get them but by the time this went up you already ordered them lol
It's a very common misconception that b20 blocks are weak. When in reality they're very strong as long as you can keep the harmonic distortion down at high rpms by making sure everything is properly balanced.
The barings have uneven wear. Eventually u would have ended up with a spun baring. If u want it to last, I’d suggest getting an align hone done. If u don’t care, FULL SEND
If u gotta stay b do a gsr ! The vtec motors are way more reliable for street abuse ! But if u gotta have 2.0L u can always do a K 😅. The cost to stay b doesn’t make sense anymore if you are gonna keep blowing motors .
lol Twisted tea lol
Fly me and my boy to yous and we will wire the garage up for parts cost, free labor! Be nice to hang out with you guys also!
I know you don't want to hear this but do yourself a favor and take that block to the machine shop and have the main caps measured for stock spec. I spent a month on my b20vtec build fighting with bearing clearances and then finally took it to my machine shop and found that 4 out of 5 of my main caps were a full .001" too tight vs stock spec and the other one was .002" too tight. He line honed them into spec and standard sizes bearings measured out perfect. B20's were not machined as carefully by honda as other b series engines.
I appreciate the input brotha, I know you probably don't want to hear this but it's not that serious. You would have been fine not line honing your block over .001-..002. Machine shop seen you coming.
That's where you are wrong. With those main cap specs I was unable to get my bearing clearances even close to honda spec. But it's not my engine so if you want to run bearings with no oil clearance, that is your choice. The machine shop didn't see me coming, I couldn't get my clearances in spec so I took it in and showed him how tight my clearances were and he measured the main cap size with me there. He didn't want to line hone it when I called him on the phone, he only did it for me after we measured the clearances together. I'm not a novice at building engines but loke I said before, it's your build and not mine.
@@frdbtr was it a custom made crank or something? I'm just curious if this was a factory crank, factory block.. the crank grew? I understand if you're using arp main bolts.. then you're tightening the caps more that factory and it will squeeze the tolerance smaller but I won't have that issue. I have a factory crank, block.. standard size. I removed standard size bearings and I'm going to put standard size bearings back in. I'm not an engine builder either but that just makes sense to me.
I’ve always used the service manual to get the oem bearing sizes using the color code chart. The block and cranks have identifying marks to let you know the bearing sizes. Unless the engine has a lot of wear, this chart should work fine.
@@deadbeatgarage It was an oem b20z2 from a non running crv. The bearing colors were clear on it so I decided to go with all oem bearings with the same colors. I told my tuner what I was doing and his exact words were "make sure you measure clearances anyway because honda wasn't as careful with them as they would have been with a type r". Long story short the honda bearings were way to tight so I ordered the budget king bearings standard size, way too tight. I called my machine shop and told him I wanted him to clearance my main cap bearing lands and he didn't want to do it so I loaded my crank and block with the standard size bearings installed and took it into him, he confirmed my findings with the amount if clearance I was seeing so we pulled the bearings and measured the bearing journal lands without any bearings and they were out of spec. I'm confused to this day how honda was running the bearings in that block that they were. My situation may be a one off, you may be totally fine to go with acl standard size bearings just make sure you, at least, plastigauge the bearings and make sure they are within spec. I've built 2 other b18c blocks one with an ls crank and never had this issue, did a d16a6 and slapped in a set of king standard bearings in that, all measured within spec. If I do another b20 though, I will probably not even bother with it until I take it to the machine shop and have the main cap journal lands machined into spec. By the way I was using oem main cap bolts, not arp. Good luck with the build I started watching your channel because of Khaki when you and Braven did that skit where you knocked the windshield out with a hammer and you blamed Braven. Cracked me up and I've been subscribed ever since.
So fyi. That is exactly how we did the cleaning process at the machine shop. And exactly as he said. As long as u oil it up right after u clean it .. ur good! Nice to see the block all clean!!!
Deadbeat sticker in red bull font!!
Next rebuild will be the k I see haha. Braaaaap bop bop bop braaaap! She never gets a break 😂
Get some Devcon Block Guard and strengthen those sleeves up pretty easy to do too wouldn't hurt to have some added protection.
Evening viewing sorted here in the UK. 😎👍🛠
Db fam 💪💪💪
I believe Rev hang is in the tune. The ecu allows the idle to come down slowly due to the catalytic converters (you don't have any but from factory, the vehicle the ecu came out of does) the ecu does this to burn off excess fuel that's still in the engine to keep the cat clean
My wrx had the same thing in the factory tune. It's ridiculous.
30:30 Its the only way we grow. You are a true inspiration to me I've been a OG fan since 2017
Car audio and camera position is awesome 👌 👏
The replacement for displacement is FI.
Nice, keep grinding. Dreams dont work unless you do !!
I’ve boosted 3 b20s on 11 psi drove them 100 miles a day revved them to 8k beat them hard and they all lasted about 8 months to a year before I spun a bearing. Never cracked a sleeve. I think they would’ve lasted longer if I didn’t have such a rowdy ak47 2 step on them. I have a video on my channel where I made 339 on a stock b20V 11 psi all eBay stuff lol
Heck yeah. I need to get out there n pull my head and resurface my block. Ready drive my bagged ek sedan again
Ask the lil came from the block was where you filled the cylinders up with oil before storing it to help the walls from rusting
Need to get you some hard monsters! Here in NY we have hard monsters, they don’t have caffeine but taste just like monster!
yep, since the block is opened and inspected.. mind as well throw some new bearings in it.. ACL or kings are both my preference. cheap build the other b20 as high comp with Nippon pistons and scat rods on ITR specs and SenD IT! fawk it lol
Need to get that Holley Terminator X. What i did and i never looked back. Well worth the money. Have not had one single issue since.
Love my Terminator X.
#DBFAM. Hell yeah !!!!
Happy dad’s ftw!
The drive on the ep3 was a dream to watch!! Top 10
IPA is the beer that should be in the garage
What's the adress for the machine shop you took the head?
Black af1’s in the intro is crazy
I never knew you had to change your oil just from pushing your car from one side to another. 😂
You must be new
@@deadbeatgarage no I’ve been watching you for a long time now and I must say I like your content but you need to stop getting mad at the comments , this is why I put a laughing emoji , you need to start being friendlier with the people who follow you and those who find you in public! Be more humble and know that making noise and pissing off your neighbors every chance is damned childish homeboy, start showing respect to people and then maybe you’ll gain the respect of followers and your channel will grow! But if you keep being a pissed off individual then you’ll only have those followers that are always mad at those who don’t approve of their actions, plus you’re a father of a special kind of kid that needs attention 100% of the time which is why you should be respectful of your surroundings and people within them. Remember that!
It's always double the money you think it is, recently went to get some bodywork supplies and yess sirr it was double I thought it was gonna be 😅
Coors banquet for sure for sure
The digital gauges gonna look badass in the blazer 💪🏽 and khaki gonna run way better when you put her back 2gether #dbfam
I built my engine bearings rods studs oil pump ect in my bedroom fam ... so I deff feel you got this no problem fam and yeah only run acl or king bearings and thrust washers in my personal experience... mad respect bro and I'm living seeing khaki back in action bro ... peace and love bro keep it rad stay safe and build on l8z #DBFamStrong #BuiltNotBought #WhoopWhoop
Was waiting for this, Let’s go!! 🎉 #DBG #DEADBEATS #DEADBEATGARAGE
Coors banquet. Is a really smooth
Braven out here dry snitchin on himself 😂😂 fr tho that digital dash is badass
Blessings to all brother
Hell yeah, brother, I rebuilt my D16A6 a few years back and had never done a rebuild before. I was stressed about it at first, but it ended up being way easier than I expected. Use some quality parts, take your time, and recheck your work. You'll have it up and running in no time. Keep up the great work brother.
I’m pretty much doing a y7 and I’m nervous about it check it out 173 kustomz
@173kustomz7 I followed the channel brother. Hope to see the progress on it soon.
@@michaelkowalski2931 thanks u will
Great video dude. Good to see khaki getting some attention , Also still haven’t received my shirts I ordered from your Gotham Plug. 😮 DBF cheers 🍻
If you're gonna start doing rotating assembly first things you need is a good torque wrench and some good assembly lube, travel dial and digital caliper.. harbor freight has most of that
Definitely some JACK DANIELS 🤘
When you send that other block out look into having it sleeved . If you build it you might as well go over kill and make a strong b20 bottom end .
I gotta say bro the EP3 is sounding good as hell 🤘 keep killing it with the content and we'll keep watching it #DBFAM
Hell yeah DBG time!!!!
You need to ring up Maxpeedingrods and get you a set of rods while you are at it.
I think we need rose to come play with puppers 😂
DB Fam Let's Go!
Your OCD is awesome lol. Looks good bro!
Put LEDs in it makes it look like a modern digital
Put some Grey Goose and Absolute
Tuning has come a long way since early 00's honda-tech forums... big help for b20 reliability 😌
Hennessy of course !! should be in the fridge at all times locc !
I enjoy your videos bro, but I really can’t wait for you to dig in to the Ef. That is the car that got me watching your channel but I also enjoy all your other projects.
Someone already mentioned but notch the valve reliefs. Dropped valve or bent valve just waiting to happen
I think a tuner can fix that high idol and the wheel hop and traction issues,Newell you should four link it
Who else wanted to see him install digital cluster right after receiving it lol
Bro, if u want kacki,ep3 and the 2 blazers on point then sell your rotting stuff in the backyard !
If you're sending the other block to install the forged internals, just made sure to resleeve the stock block, as the stock walls are prone to crack around the water jacket/between cylinders after 350whp.
Make sure you get acl race not regular acl bearings
👍👍from this guy 30:16
One time for family. Glass Corona.
Looks like some harmonic issues with that main cap chatter/walk causing the mating surface of the main cap to leave chatter impressions on the block
The mozels will get ya every time. Lol
Make sure to run your stock cams if your planning on using the stock pistons in the b20. The valve reliefs are not deep enough to clear valves for bigger cam profile just a heads up 🤙🏼
Is the the egr open? If so I used a rubber freeze plug too plug it
Khaki deserves a Kswop😉😍
I would have the mains checked on the block, line hone if needed. That doesn't look like normal even wear to me.
Hoop tea is better then twisted tea! You need some crown in there too!
If you bore that block, sleeve it. You’ll make some jam without so much worries. 🤷🏽♂️
Some Mexican drinks that go by the name of NEWMIX I recommend the red aluminum one
No fel pro head gasket this time! 😢
I always thought you had to get new bearings if you washed/ hot tanked the inside. Just so bearings don't rust and lock up. Otherwise dope bro, glad to see progress on the car that made me start watching to begin with many moons ago.
Inner circle rum or Stroh rum wth red bull liven you up.
Let's Go DB FAM 🔊🤙🏼
I'm down in casa grande doing a 91 si k swap
Great wine and some wine whiskey Jean Ben Jean Ben and Coke
Put some crown royal apple in that fridge
I’d try the throttle body they tend to stick
King bearings imo are better than acl, most high hp b series run them, my 845hp lsv ran king bearings and never had any issues, I’d say check if you can get them but by the time this went up you already ordered them lol
What machine shop do you use?
Any silver deadbeat script stickers?
Crowncolas it’s a mixed drink and now they have monster alcoholic drinks
Be sure and change that LS oil pump to a new b16 vtec oil pump
It's a very common misconception that b20 blocks are weak. When in reality they're very strong as long as you can keep the harmonic distortion down at high rpms by making sure everything is properly balanced.
Cmon guys. One of you must be close to him and be an electrician. Fuuu, depending on price, I may just pay for it
Some four loko in that cooler?
Red Bull and Jager. Duh !!! Yes ! Jagerbombs
Bro… add block guard to your b20 engine… it will help the weak sleave of the engine..
King bearings.
Comparable $$$ to ACL, but imho much better quality.
If you aren’t sending it to the machine shop, get new bearings and piston rings.
Wrap the mini fridge
Not bad for how much abuse the engine has seen not just in khaki but in the previous car it was in was boosted for a while
Look up diy hot tanking
Modelos!!!!!
It wouldn’t be DEADBEAT GARAGE If you didn’t put LED LIGHTS INSIDE IT 😅😊 🔥
The barings have uneven wear. Eventually u would have ended up with a spun baring. If u want it to last, I’d suggest getting an align hone done. If u don’t care, FULL SEND
Is that ep as loud as it sounds! Lmao
Jamaican me happy’s wine coolers.
Never pump gas at a station when there filling the tanks.
VV&B has best E
If u gotta stay b do a gsr ! The vtec motors are way more reliable for street abuse ! But if u gotta have 2.0L u can always do a K 😅. The cost to stay b doesn’t make sense anymore if you are gonna keep blowing motors .
Don’t go acl go king race bearings brotha