My wife has an Akto, and swears by it ! I on the other hand, have a Nallo 2, and I swear by it :-) But when we went on our honeymoon to Norway.... She let me carry the Nallo 2 and we both enjoyed the protection and comfort the tent gave us; Even when we were stuck on a mountainside for two days due to a storm, we, and our gear didn't get wet, nothing ripped or broke. I am a big fan of Hilleberg tents, and I never go out camping without one of their tarps, worth their weight in gold :-)
Nice review brother. No doubt you know a few things about tents, I don't doubt you have tried so many you mentioned. And that was very helpful for me. Akto is a classic here in scandinavia. So makes me happy to see people abroad that enjoy Hilleberg, just like we do.
The Mountain star is a great 2 person three season tent. Akto is a great one person four season tent.. Apples and oranges. There's the new Storm star(Just ordered it) for 2P and its a four season tent, it looks great and sets up in any weather. Similar to the Hilleberg Kaitum but with different vestibules and stands on its own.
Hi. Found this post checking for posts about the Kuio MS 2p. After reading some of the comments bellow, it scares me, coming from Scandinavia and have done extended hikes all year round for over 30 years now, to see people classifies the Akto as a 4 season tent. By 4 season, most people include winter with loads of snow and heavy wind. The Akto is by no means capable of handling what we up here call a winter. To recommend Akto as a winter tent is dangerous! But for other regions of the world, that "4th" season has no to little snow, but can still be quite windy. The same season is "4th" for us up here, but the winter season is the "5th" season.
I looked into buying both of theses tents, I didn’t think you could go wrong with either one.I settle with the Kuiu if for no other reason than I just like the company that sold them and I don’t thing I have ran into anyone who knows about Kuiu and am always ask what tent is that?
Yeah, this was my first year to use the SG 5100 and i loved it. The pack is the perfect combination of minimal but functional. Also, it carries weight better than any pack I've ever used.
I was wondering about the tight fit. I have a Cabela's 3 person XPG and I was thinking about getting a KUIU tent to improve access and ventilation but I didn't like giving up the shoulder room. The XPG has a 67" width at the shoulders compared to the 56" shoulder width of the KUIU tent-- almost a whole foot in difference. My cousin and I fit comfortably shoulder to shoulder in the XPG with personal space between us and not touching the tent with our outer shoulders which is very important to not draw in moisture. I dont see how we could comfortably fit two in the KUIU tent which is really too bad because I would upgrade to the KUIU if it were wider but I dont want to sacrifice comfort for easier access-- especially if you get rained in for a day or two. Space is a necessity when you have to spend a lot of time on close quarters with someone who is not your wife.
I think you are spot on. While you can fit 2 people I wouldn't recommend it, just like most other "2" person tents on the market. For one man it's a lightweight palace, but I personally wouldn't use it for two guys, your shoulders will most definitely touch. I'd stick with a three man tent to run two guys in.
Very comprehensive review brother, I think you made the right choice. You simply can't beat Hilleberg for quality. If, as you say, you'll be 11000ft up a mountain you want a tent you know will handle all conditions. Liked and subbed. ATB from Scotland.
Condensation is an issue with the kuiu as well. I have this same tent, with foot print. Used it all last year during deer season on my lease & I will say this. It's a nice tent. It's only 3 season unless u buy the newer version that's oddly looking reinforced. I really like the tent, but I'll be honest, I'm worried about the durability. I'm hard on my shit, & the inner lining / meshing is already got "stocking runs" I'm not to stoked about. I try to treat my stuff with care but with what us hunters do & go through durability is key. I again like my kuiu 2P, set up is quick, & I'll keep using it, but the video forgot to mention its on 3 season. I have both the carbon & aluminum poles. Awesome tent just not sure about durability & if it will last. I'm heading for an elk hunt this year to Wyoming & we will see how it handles. Also went with a bunch of gear through kuiu vs Sitka & we will see how their outerwear holds up as well. I like the kuiu concept, but concerned about durability.
I'm right there with you Scottland B. I've got a number of other Kuiu items and love them, but durability seems to always haunt their products in one way or another.
Agree, the first day I got a pair of guide pants, already got a hole in them? Sucks cause in TX its hard not to get poked, stuck, stabbed, bit, stung, ef'it you name it! And I have a ton of Kuiu Gear... Had a standard pair of army pants from a friend in the military and I still dont have a hole in them, and used those for over 6 years. Sometimes I think Im a sucker for buying stuff. But I will say Kuiu is comfortable, and I like that!!!
I just came off three nights and 4 days on the AT in NC..in early April. I took my new Kuiu mountain star. It is definitely a three season tent. I got caught on a mountaintop in quite a bad storm. The next morning temperature was right at freezing. The Mountian Star keep me dry all three nights but I was cold and sleeping in my Zpack 20 degree sleeping bag and my REI silks. I did developed a tear in the bug netting after the first night ( not sure how). I would give the tent an 7 out of 10 rating And that isn’t bad for my rating system.
thanks for the review. So is the outer shell connected to the internal one? in other words is that outer rain layer connected permanently to the inner screen layer? with North Face it's always two separate annoying pieces. thank you very much.
Both tents setup both the outer shell and inner tent at the same time. They don't set up separately like the North Face unless you want them too. They aren't permanently connected, but they go up at the same time. You could always remove the inner tent and just setup the outer rainfly. Either way neither of these tents go up in separate phases like your North Face.
The Akto is the most functional and reliable 1 person 4 season backpacking tent on the market. Pitches as one with flysheet.inner and groundsheet footprint together giving a dry shelter even if pitching in the rain or on wet ground.Very lightweight and compact when packed.
Would I use Akto, or other tens with the same construction, like Helsport Ringstind or Fjellreven Absiko, as a 4 season tent? Absolutely not. I would use those tents as a 2/3 season tent, under the forest line, if above the tree line, I would spend great time finding a camp with the best cover. The reason for this is that those constructions got big walls/areas on the outer tent without proper guyouts that catch wind, making the tent bounce and move a lot, and even make a lot of noise, making it hard to sleep. Not only that, but the outer tent cave in on the inner tent. Just search for "Akto in high winds" here on TH-cam and see for yourself. Don't get me wrong , all those three tents can take wind, but it's no pleasure staying inside the tents in high winds.
Nonsense. The Hilleberg Akto, Soulo, Fjallraven Abisko etc. will withstand 60+ mph winds. Are there more comfortable tents for those conditions? Yes, tents such as the North Face Summit series tents, but then you're talking 4kg+, not really a backpacking tent.
@@dan001427 Read my post again. I only referred to tent construction with a crossing tent pole so that the tent panels are large and thus vulnerable to wind. This has been proven several times, as well as several users reporting the same thing. Soulo has a totally different construction.
@@palbal What's been proven several times? That the Akto cannot withstand strong winds? Because I'm yet to have come across a video of an Akto failing in strong wind. If you have then please direct me to it. There are plenty of videos of Aktos in strong winds.
@@dan001427 It looks like there is confusion about whether a tent can withstand wind, and what it is actually like to stay and sleep in a tent with the same construction as Akto, Reinsfjell and so on. The reason why many people have moved away from these tents is because of the noise when the wind hits the large panels. Secondly, that the inside and outside are pressed together. Withstands wind, yes, but simply uncomfortable and impractical tent in strong winds. For use in moderate winds, such constructions work well. It still amazes me that people defend these tents beyond common sense.
@@palbal Perhaps you should use some common sense. There is always going to be compromise. The compromise in this instance is comfort for weight saving. You could use a tent such as the North face Summit series with it's fully geodesic design, but there is compromise, they weigh 4kg+ and take up a lot of pack space. It's not a case of one tent is better in every area than another, it's a case of personal preference.
absolutely KUIU, the Akto is obsoleted hehe, KUIU for weight, robust, easy setup and space 👌✌
My wife has an Akto, and swears by it ! I on the other hand, have a Nallo 2, and I swear by it :-) But when we went on our honeymoon to Norway.... She let me carry the Nallo 2 and we both enjoyed the protection and comfort the tent gave us; Even when we were stuck on a mountainside for two days due to a storm, we, and our gear didn't get wet, nothing ripped or broke.
I am a big fan of Hilleberg tents, and I never go out camping without one of their tarps, worth their weight in gold :-)
Nice review brother. No doubt you know a few things about tents, I don't doubt you have tried so many you mentioned. And that was very helpful for me. Akto is a classic here in scandinavia. So makes me happy to see people abroad that enjoy Hilleberg, just like we do.
The Mountain star is a great 2 person three season tent. Akto is a great one person four season tent.. Apples and oranges. There's the new Storm star(Just ordered it) for 2P and its a four season tent, it looks great and sets up in any weather. Similar to the Hilleberg Kaitum but with different vestibules and stands on its own.
Akto is a four season and the Mountain star is really a three season tent though.
Good choice. I have an Akto too. I recommend the mesh inner if you want to use it in the summer. The Akto's modular design is versatile.
Thanks Julian, I'm planning on picking one up in the near future.
I am just about to buy an Akto, so thank you for the comparison. Atb.
Thanks for taking the trouble to post. I'm now seriously considering the Hilleberg, despite the high cost. Cheers!
Hi. Found this post checking for posts about the Kuio MS 2p. After reading some of the comments bellow, it scares me, coming from Scandinavia and have done extended hikes all year round for over 30 years now, to see people classifies the Akto as a 4 season tent. By 4 season, most people include winter with loads of snow and heavy wind. The Akto is by no means capable of handling what we up here call a winter. To recommend Akto as a winter tent is dangerous! But for other regions of the world, that "4th" season has no to little snow, but can still be quite windy. The same season is "4th" for us up here, but the winter season is the "5th" season.
I looked into buying both of theses tents, I didn’t think you could go wrong with either one.I settle with the Kuiu if for no other reason than I just like the company that sold them and I don’t thing I have ran into anyone who knows about Kuiu and am always ask what tent is that?
Respect for the Stone Glacier backpack. I have one and it's awesome.
Yeah, this was my first year to use the SG 5100 and i loved it. The pack is the perfect combination of minimal but functional. Also, it carries weight better than any pack I've ever used.
I was wondering about the tight fit. I have a Cabela's 3 person XPG and I was thinking about getting a KUIU tent to improve access and ventilation but I didn't like giving up the shoulder room. The XPG has a 67" width at the shoulders compared to the 56" shoulder width of the KUIU tent-- almost a whole foot in difference. My cousin and I fit comfortably shoulder to shoulder in the XPG with personal space between us and not touching the tent with our outer shoulders which is very important to not draw in moisture. I dont see how we could comfortably fit two in the KUIU tent which is really too bad because I would upgrade to the KUIU if it were wider but I dont want to sacrifice comfort for easier access-- especially if you get rained in for a day or two. Space is a necessity when you have to spend a lot of time on close quarters with someone who is not your wife.
I think you are spot on. While you can fit 2 people I wouldn't recommend it, just like most other "2" person tents on the market. For one man it's a lightweight palace, but I personally wouldn't use it for two guys, your shoulders will most definitely touch. I'd stick with a three man tent to run two guys in.
Very comprehensive review brother, I think you made the right choice. You simply can't beat Hilleberg for quality. If, as you say, you'll be 11000ft up a mountain you want a tent you know will handle all conditions. Liked and subbed. ATB from Scotland.
Thanks Dougie for the great feedback. I really appreciate it.
+High Country Gear Review I'm looking forward to your next video man, cheers.
Akto above tree line tent, bomb proof, other tent looks a 3 season. Good vid tho
Thank you
I will buy the Kuiu off you if you want? I have a hilleberg now and condensation is a problem for me.
Condensation is an issue with the kuiu as well. I have this same tent, with foot print. Used it all last year during deer season on my lease & I will say this. It's a nice tent. It's only 3 season unless u buy the newer version that's oddly looking reinforced. I really like the tent, but I'll be honest, I'm worried about the durability. I'm hard on my shit, & the inner lining / meshing is already got "stocking runs" I'm not to stoked about. I try to treat my stuff with care but with what us hunters do & go through durability is key. I again like my kuiu 2P, set up is quick, & I'll keep using it, but the video forgot to mention its on 3 season. I have both the carbon & aluminum poles. Awesome tent just not sure about durability & if it will last. I'm heading for an elk hunt this year to Wyoming & we will see how it handles. Also went with a bunch of gear through kuiu vs Sitka & we will see how their outerwear holds up as well. I like the kuiu concept, but concerned about durability.
Sorry twilson21 I already sold it on Ebay. Which Hilleberg do you have?
I'm right there with you Scottland B. I've got a number of other Kuiu items and love them, but durability seems to always haunt their products in one way or another.
Agree, the first day I got a pair of guide pants, already got a hole in them? Sucks cause in TX its hard not to get poked, stuck, stabbed, bit, stung, ef'it you name it! And I have a ton of Kuiu Gear... Had a standard pair of army pants from a friend in the military and I still dont have a hole in them, and used those for over 6 years. Sometimes I think Im a sucker for buying stuff. But I will say Kuiu is comfortable, and I like that!!!
Who ever sizes these tents and say oh you and a buddy can fit have never heard of morning wood.
I just came off three nights and 4 days on the AT in NC..in early April. I took my new Kuiu mountain star. It is definitely a three season tent. I got caught on a mountaintop in quite a bad storm. The next morning temperature was right at freezing. The Mountian Star keep me dry all three nights but I was cold and sleeping in my Zpack 20 degree sleeping bag and my REI silks. I did developed a tear in the bug netting after the first night ( not sure how). I would give the tent an 7 out of 10 rating And that isn’t bad for my rating system.
thanks for the review. So is the outer shell connected to the internal one? in other words is that outer rain layer connected permanently to the inner screen layer? with North Face it's always two separate annoying pieces. thank you very much.
Both tents setup both the outer shell and inner tent at the same time. They don't set up separately like the North Face unless you want them too. They aren't permanently connected, but they go up at the same time. You could always remove the inner tent and just setup the outer rainfly. Either way neither of these tents go up in separate phases like your North Face.
The Akto is the most functional and reliable 1 person 4 season backpacking tent on the market.
Pitches as one with flysheet.inner and groundsheet footprint together giving a dry shelter even if pitching in the rain or on wet ground.Very lightweight and compact when packed.
Hey what was the sleeping pad you use again? Really thinking about getting the KUIU 2P tent as well.
Big Agnes Q-Core. It has been updated since I made this video, it's now the Q-Core SL
Would I use Akto, or other tens with the same construction, like Helsport Ringstind or Fjellreven Absiko, as a 4 season tent? Absolutely not. I would use those tents as a 2/3 season tent, under the forest line, if above the tree line, I would spend great time finding a camp with the best cover. The reason for this is that those constructions got big walls/areas on the outer tent without proper guyouts that catch wind, making the tent bounce and move a lot, and even make a lot of noise, making it hard to sleep. Not only that, but the outer tent cave in on the inner tent. Just search for "Akto in high winds" here on TH-cam and see for yourself. Don't get me wrong , all those three tents can take wind, but it's no pleasure staying inside the tents in high winds.
Nonsense. The Hilleberg Akto, Soulo, Fjallraven Abisko etc. will withstand 60+ mph winds. Are there more comfortable tents for those conditions? Yes, tents such as the North Face Summit series tents, but then you're talking 4kg+, not really a backpacking tent.
@@dan001427 Read my post again. I only referred to tent construction with a crossing tent pole so that the tent panels are large and thus vulnerable to wind. This has been proven several times, as well as several users reporting the same thing. Soulo has a totally different construction.
@@palbal What's been proven several times? That the Akto cannot withstand strong winds? Because I'm yet to have come across a video of an Akto failing in strong wind. If you have then please direct me to it. There are plenty of videos of Aktos in strong winds.
@@dan001427 It looks like there is confusion about whether a tent can withstand wind, and what it is actually like to stay and sleep in a tent with the same construction as Akto, Reinsfjell and so on. The reason why many people have moved away from these tents is because of the noise when the wind hits the large panels. Secondly, that the inside and outside are pressed together. Withstands wind, yes, but simply uncomfortable and impractical tent in strong winds. For use in moderate winds, such constructions work well. It still amazes me that people defend these tents beyond common sense.
@@palbal Perhaps you should use some common sense. There is always going to be compromise. The compromise in this instance is comfort for weight saving. You could use a tent such as the North face Summit series with it's fully geodesic design, but there is compromise, they weigh 4kg+ and take up a lot of pack space.
It's not a case of one tent is better in every area than another, it's a case of personal preference.
ok im buying akto!
Can't use a wood stove in either tent. I'd rather just go with a tarp with a stove jack and a wood stove
How tall are you?
6"2"
Ok. Thanks.
Akto all the way 👍