Thats similar to how I justified my Durge bard/wild magic sorcerer. Born with magic fueled by chaos(thanks dad), but after a life of death my Durge just wants to laugh and sing now.
Oh wow. This is actually the literal build I had in mind yesterday when I was trying to think of a Sorcerer dip for a College of Lore Bard. I called it the Singing Storm though as I used a dark-skinned female Duergar to evoke Storm from X-Men.
I do basically this build but as a Lore Bard to 6, Drac Sorc to 5, and 1 Wiz. It's kind of annoying missing out on the level 6 sorc boosts, but I also want spells higher than level 3. Plus, her signature move is Otto's Irresitable Dance so I kind of need that. If you don't like using the Wiz dip fair enough, I know it's kind of cheesy, but for me it's mainly for Otto's. Basically her dad is also a sorcerer and was very happy his daughter inherited the power... but then aghast when it turned out she preferred prancing about with a flute. "It's NOT a phase, Daaaaad"
I ran this as Bard 2 / Tempest 2 / Storm Sorcerer 6 / Evocation Wizard 2 finishing with a 20 INT. A glass cannon, but felt super powerful by the time the build finally came on line. The flip side being that the build didn’t really feel powerful until level 9 or 10.
Ah yes, this here is a great representation of the downsides of multiclass builds. While you're low level and farming up all the classes/features/spells you need you can feel lack luster. Finally once you hit that crest where the build starts to take hold, that's a great feeling. Very interesting levels. I can see why that would work.
I never thought about the idea of going Evocation Wizard 2 for Sculpt Spells, that's a smart idea! I do feel like the 2 levels in Bard might be unnecessary though unless you need skill proficiencies, maybe it would be better to put those 2 levels towards Sorcerer for the extra feat and more Sorcery Points?
@@StairFacts Bard 2 lets you be a competent lock picker & talker, and speak with animals, dissonant whispers, and tashas come in surprisingly handy through the whole game. Jack of all trades & song of rest are also useful all game long. On the flip side, yup, it slows your progression. On my next run, I will probably give the bard levels to Shadowheart or Astarion, or flip it and go 8 lore bard and then pick & choose some multiclasses.
@@OakandIV Fair! Bard is insanely useful for main characters, every time I try to start a new playthrough I eventually end up multiclassing into Bard on my Tav.
Another reason to go dual wielder is save your main action by not casting Create Water; and just carry jugs of water with you, drop them as free actions, and use a bonus action off hand attack to break the jug open next to an enemy. And still have your action to do whatever.
Using a similar build for a pirate character who was recruited for his talent to manipulate the winds (due to him being a storm sorcerer) making it much smoother sailing for his crew. doesn't hurt he also likes to bring up peoples spirits with sea shanties.
The duel wield build still works quite well if you sub out larethians wrath with harmonic dueler until until Larian fixes the targeting issue with larenthian's wrath. Harmonic dueler has an action that adds charisma modifier to damage.
Can I just say how much I absolutely love this - it reminds me of Metallica's "Ride The Lightning" album & I am absolutely here for it!!! Also don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but if you're going the Tempest Cleric route, you can pick Talos, god of storms and destruction as your diety which is also super fitting IMO! Might actually try this for my Redemption Durge playthrough ^^
This build is begging for magic missile!! It has a great synergy with both lightning charges and phalar aluve, you will deal insane damage inside the sword shriek
Hear me out. Take 2 levels of Tempest Cleric, 2 levels of Hex blade and the rest storm sorcerer. Explanation. Agonizing blast is really what you want from Warlock. Most of your levels are in Sorcerer which means a d6 HP. You do have the heavy armor from Cleric, but you should avoid being in melee combat. You just don't have the HP. If you don't start cleric for wisdom saves you are subjected to hold person which lots of people have. And if you get paralyzed that's it. You're probably going down.
Gotta say hobo been loving your build guides their incredibly well done and have been considering a few as possible options for my 4th party member build (have literslly been stuck for a week trying to pick lol so many good optiond so its hard to pick). I would love to see how you would put together a build that focuses on the ice gear that can be found through out the game while also primarily wielding a bow
Build Request: So I just found out the Duergar's enlarge effects wild shapes sizes and shillelagh is better than I thought, there's even a couple unique weapons that synergize with it, something about a snare staff and even a snare enhancing chest piece. So kind of like a melee/control type bludgeoning druid with some buffed wildshapes.
Wow I was literally thinking of a build like this for a while, but I actually settled on Circle of Land Druid, it actually gets access to a lot of lightning Spells and utility,
I wish I hadn't just finished a pure storm sorcerer run because I am a metal singer with a big booming voice (for the thunder connection) and can hit some eye watering high notes (bit of a stretch but lightning kinda fits) and this would be so perfect
Glad I came across your channel. A lot of my own fun in these games is creating builds or coming across new and interesting ones I haven't thought of doing myself - regardless of viability (although most , if not all of yours seem quite viable lol). Really appreciate you taking the time and sharing these builds! They're great for facilitating RP runs through the game or just a new playthrough in general.
This is an interesting build. I will probably switch to this once I have more of the gear pieces. Unfortunately I don't have the alternative chest piece for this. I do have potent robes but it won't synergize as well as your recommendations.
This episode made me think about that psychic spell that deals damage of the last type used every turn (I forget the name on account of the spell being mostly useless). Since it requires concentration and procs every turn, would it build or trigger the bonus damage of lightning charges granted by the staff? Would it's damage build stacks of reverberation? If so, it may actually be a rather nasty spell in the right setup.
Well, guess im gonna be respecing Shadowheart. Just picture it, darkness spell, thunder and lightning, Shar's pettiness and not to mention the sound effect of Reverberation.
I love this build! I’ve had a lot of fun experimenting with it. now i’d like to suggest a build for you to try is either Kikyo or Kagome from the show Inuyasha 👀😌
Using the concept of the build for a different flavor the song of chaos bard and wild magic was thinking of elden ring frenzy flame when thinking of a build now I'm going for a manipulation fire build just for the frenzy flame
i really like your videos but could i request a strong lvl 4-7 build? most build videos are full lvl 12 builds and the build coming full circle feels kinda stupid with how late it is at that point because youd be at the end of the game and probably pretty powerful anyway not to mention how hard it is actually getting an incomplete and weakened build to that point of power against bosses like myrkul
I do have a level 6 build on the channel. Although I have to say, low level multiclassing is never gonna be a strong as just single levelling. If I can think of anything, I'll try.
If i'm going to do tempest cleric, i'd prefer to take at least 2 levels in it for destructive wrath. Personally i think that's its best feature, not wrath of the storm.
Cooooooooooooooooooooool ! a bit squishi, i would have gone with draconic bloodline to get a +3 AC since you are not using any armour or shield so that in melee you are a bit more protected and mage armour stacks (actually it doesn't, my bad!)! And for the Glave ability, i think i was one of those that suggested the twin option, but there may be others as well
@@HoboZone OMG, you are absolutely right ... well you can still get draconic bloodline and get another spell ... damage wise, the draconic bloodline feels a bit better because it gives you means to overcome resistance of your choice ... not sure if tempest magic do the same but i may be very wrong again
Making enemies Wet makes them vulnerable to lightning and cold, which might overcome resistance Either way, you still have two really powerful elements.
@@HoboZone not sure, i don't use lightning or cold damage often and i find wet condition not that easy to achieve as it were in DoS2 ... ppl walking on wet surface should become wet themself but they don't, not i my tests at least, so i have to recast water on them wich means another spells slot wasted for something i already did ... spellcasters are infuriating most of the times ... i like martial classes more xD nothing like a big sword swing or a nice hammer smash, they don't do aoe damage but i don't often need it and i'm more accostumed to use arrows of many targets for AOE purposes! BUUUUT i started Honour Mode as Gale Evocation Wizard yesterday and strangely he hit a lot with his firebolt in this PT xD, same for Shadowheart which normally is the queen of misses ( a little stretched but i guess you miss what you have lost XD )
nice build, a bit of fresh air as i got tired of seeing the same sorc/cleric one over and over again. Don't really care about min/max builds, i prefer fun ones like this one.
I'm not sure if I've ever commented this before, but love your builds. Any plans to tackle The Doctor from Doctor Who anytime soon? Could be a fun build.
I have seen a lot of your build videos and I have 2 challenges for you first is the easiest you’ve said sword bard and open hand monk is the strongest so make a build combining the two the second is much harder make a build that uses all the arrows all the spell scrolls and anything you can make with alchemy but there are restrictions you can not have any levels in wizard you can’t have any healing spells or damaging spells the only exception is if it is on a peace of equipment if it is a summon or if you can say it is just you shouting at the enemy like with vicious mockery you also can’t use a race that gets a spell at a set level
I wouldn't like to say there's a perfect team comp. You can usually just run whatever and be fine. But if you're thinking of honour mode, then you'll want a healer (life cleric), a tank (paladin or barb, maybe a mix of both), and the last slot should maybe be a pure DPS build, like a fighter-rogue mix perhaps.
I said this exactly in the video and explained why you could take either Bard or Sorc first. We started with Bard for the longsword proficiency, but it's an option.
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Using this as a redemption Durge, they became a bard after killing Alfira to honor her since they helped her with the Weeping Dawn
Thats similar to how I justified my Durge bard/wild magic sorcerer. Born with magic fueled by chaos(thanks dad), but after a life of death my Durge just wants to laugh and sing now.
Thunder and Lightning, Very very frightning!
I can imagine this build rocking on a magically powered electric guitar XD
"Mama ! OOOooooo I don't wanna die"
This build after being downed and failing 2 death saving throws already
It was never a phase mom
Oh wow. This is actually the literal build I had in mind yesterday when I was trying to think of a Sorcerer dip for a College of Lore Bard. I called it the Singing Storm though as I used a dark-skinned female Duergar to evoke Storm from X-Men.
I do basically this build but as a Lore Bard to 6, Drac Sorc to 5, and 1 Wiz. It's kind of annoying missing out on the level 6 sorc boosts, but I also want spells higher than level 3. Plus, her signature move is Otto's Irresitable Dance so I kind of need that. If you don't like using the Wiz dip fair enough, I know it's kind of cheesy, but for me it's mainly for Otto's.
Basically her dad is also a sorcerer and was very happy his daughter inherited the power... but then aghast when it turned out she preferred prancing about with a flute.
"It's NOT a phase, Daaaaad"
Simply saying "reverberation" had my mind speeding because we javelin so many lightning charge/reverb items that just vibe so well
I ran this as Bard 2 / Tempest 2 / Storm Sorcerer 6 / Evocation Wizard 2 finishing with a 20 INT. A glass cannon, but felt super powerful by the time the build finally came on line. The flip side being that the build didn’t really feel powerful until level 9 or 10.
Ah yes, this here is a great representation of the downsides of multiclass builds.
While you're low level and farming up all the classes/features/spells you need you can feel lack luster. Finally once you hit that crest where the build starts to take hold, that's a great feeling. Very interesting levels. I can see why that would work.
I never thought about the idea of going Evocation Wizard 2 for Sculpt Spells, that's a smart idea! I do feel like the 2 levels in Bard might be unnecessary though unless you need skill proficiencies, maybe it would be better to put those 2 levels towards Sorcerer for the extra feat and more Sorcery Points?
@@StairFacts Bard 2 lets you be a competent lock picker & talker, and speak with animals, dissonant whispers, and tashas come in surprisingly handy through the whole game. Jack of all trades & song of rest are also useful all game long.
On the flip side, yup, it slows your progression. On my next run, I will probably give the bard levels to Shadowheart or Astarion, or flip it and go 8 lore bard and then pick & choose some multiclasses.
@@OakandIV Fair! Bard is insanely useful for main characters, every time I try to start a new playthrough I eventually end up multiclassing into Bard on my Tav.
Going dual wielder, the spell sparkler is a perfect off hand to accompany phalar aluve
Cant believe he didnt mention it
I love how miuh love you give to bard combos recently. Gives me a lot of options for future playthroughs :D
Another reason to go dual wielder is save your main action by not casting Create Water; and just carry jugs of water with you, drop them as free actions, and use a bonus action off hand attack to break the jug open next to an enemy. And still have your action to do whatever.
Using a similar build for a pirate character who was recruited for his talent to manipulate the winds (due to him being a storm sorcerer) making it much smoother sailing for his crew. doesn't hurt he also likes to bring up peoples spirits with sea shanties.
The duel wield build still works quite well if you sub out larethians wrath with harmonic dueler until until Larian fixes the targeting issue with larenthian's wrath. Harmonic dueler has an action that adds charisma modifier to damage.
Can I just say how much I absolutely love this - it reminds me of Metallica's "Ride The Lightning" album & I am absolutely here for it!!! Also don't know if anyone else has mentioned this but if you're going the Tempest Cleric route, you can pick Talos, god of storms and destruction as your diety which is also super fitting IMO! Might actually try this for my Redemption Durge playthrough ^^
this build is so unique man! keep it up🫶
This build is begging for magic missile!! It has a great synergy with both lightning charges and phalar aluve, you will deal insane damage inside the sword shriek
I enjoy the concept of this build, i might try it with 1 level of tempest, 3 level of hexblade and the rest storm sorcerer.
Hear me out. Take 2 levels of Tempest Cleric, 2 levels of Hex blade and the rest storm sorcerer.
Explanation. Agonizing blast is really what you want from Warlock. Most of your levels are in Sorcerer which means a d6 HP. You do have the heavy armor from Cleric, but you should avoid being in melee combat. You just don't have the HP. If you don't start cleric for wisdom saves you are subjected to hold person which lots of people have. And if you get paralyzed that's it. You're probably going down.
Gotta say hobo been loving your build guides their incredibly well done and have been considering a few as possible options for my 4th party member build (have literslly been stuck for a week trying to pick lol so many good optiond so its hard to pick). I would love to see how you would put together a build that focuses on the ice gear that can be found through out the game while also primarily wielding a bow
That's an interesting idea!
Honestly based on the name and thumbnail I kind of thought this was a Life is Strange build haha. Love it!
omg I was just looking for this exact build for a couple of days, great timing.
Build Request: So I just found out the Duergar's enlarge effects wild shapes sizes and shillelagh is better than I thought, there's even a couple unique weapons that synergize with it, something about a snare staff and even a snare enhancing chest piece. So kind of like a melee/control type bludgeoning druid with some buffed wildshapes.
This is an awesome build idea! I might try an Orc or Dwarf with a drum and let the thunder fly!
Wow I was literally thinking of a build like this for a while, but I actually settled on Circle of Land Druid, it actually gets access to a lot of lightning Spells and utility,
This build and the Bard-Barbarian are either rivals or best friends
I wish I hadn't just finished a pure storm sorcerer run because I am a metal singer with a big booming voice (for the thunder connection) and can hit some eye watering high notes (bit of a stretch but lightning kinda fits) and this would be so perfect
Glad I came across your channel. A lot of my own fun in these games is creating builds or coming across new and interesting ones I haven't thought of doing myself - regardless of viability (although most , if not all of yours seem quite viable lol). Really appreciate you taking the time and sharing these builds! They're great for facilitating RP runs through the game or just a new playthrough in general.
This is an interesting build. I will probably switch to this once I have more of the gear pieces. Unfortunately I don't have the alternative chest piece for this. I do have potent robes but it won't synergize as well as your recommendations.
The AC/DC Build...Thunder Struck!
This episode made me think about that psychic spell that deals damage of the last type used every turn (I forget the name on account of the spell being mostly useless). Since it requires concentration and procs every turn, would it build or trigger the bonus damage of lightning charges granted by the staff? Would it's damage build stacks of reverberation? If so, it may actually be a rather nasty spell in the right setup.
I did recommend it for this build but I haven't fully tested its compatibility with the statuses yet.
This is such a powerfull combo and the face of the group. Guess you could try this at the new honor mode
Well, guess im gonna be respecing Shadowheart. Just picture it, darkness spell, thunder and lightning, Shar's pettiness and not to mention the sound effect of Reverberation.
This might be fun with the Dark Urge.
very fun build to watch
good build idea
I love this build! I’ve had a lot of fun experimenting with it. now i’d like to suggest a build for you to try is either Kikyo or Kagome from the show Inuyasha 👀😌
this is dope! love this one alot
Using the concept of the build for a different flavor the song of chaos bard and wild magic was thinking of elden ring frenzy flame when thinking of a build now I'm going for a manipulation fire build just for the frenzy flame
My first thought when you mentioned punk rock was Quickened spell, her just yelling Encore
This is perfect thank you.
i really like your videos but could i request a strong lvl 4-7 build? most build videos are full lvl 12 builds and the build coming full circle feels kinda stupid with how late it is at that point because youd be at the end of the game and probably pretty powerful anyway not to mention how hard it is actually getting an incomplete and weakened build to that point of power against bosses like myrkul
I do have a level 6 build on the channel. Although I have to say, low level multiclassing is never gonna be a strong as just single levelling.
If I can think of anything, I'll try.
@@HoboZone i will go watch that and i hope to see more if you can figure one out!
Noise Marine! Hail Slannesh!
I would go Lore bard for Magical Secrets at level 6 and use the Lightening Charge Staff and then have an ally use phalar aluve
If i'm going to do tempest cleric, i'd prefer to take at least 2 levels in it for destructive wrath. Personally i think that's its best feature, not wrath of the storm.
That build is definitely metal 😂
Cooooooooooooooooooooool ! a bit squishi, i would have gone with draconic bloodline to get a +3 AC since you are not using any armour or shield so that in melee you are a bit more protected and mage armour stacks (actually it doesn't, my bad!)!
And for the Glave ability, i think i was one of those that suggested the twin option, but there may be others as well
Mage Armour doesn't stack with Draconic Sorcerer's unarmoured defence. At the very least, it's not supposed to.
@@HoboZone OMG, you are absolutely right ... well you can still get draconic bloodline and get another spell ... damage wise, the draconic bloodline feels a bit better because it gives you means to overcome resistance of your choice ... not sure if tempest magic do the same but i may be very wrong again
Making enemies Wet makes them vulnerable to lightning and cold, which might overcome resistance
Either way, you still have two really powerful elements.
@@HoboZone not sure, i don't use lightning or cold damage often and i find wet condition not that easy to achieve as it were in DoS2 ... ppl walking on wet surface should become wet themself but they don't, not i my tests at least, so i have to recast water on them wich means another spells slot wasted for something i already did ... spellcasters are infuriating most of the times ... i like martial classes more xD
nothing like a big sword swing or a nice hammer smash, they don't do aoe damage but i don't often need it and i'm more accostumed to use arrows of many targets for AOE purposes!
BUUUUT i started Honour Mode as Gale Evocation Wizard yesterday and strangely he hit a lot with his firebolt in this PT xD, same for Shadowheart which normally is the queen of misses ( a little stretched but i guess you miss what you have lost XD )
nice build, a bit of fresh air as i got tired of seeing the same sorc/cleric one over and over again. Don't really care about min/max builds, i prefer fun ones like this one.
Wow, your character is gorgeous (from afar)
That's all characters in this game.
I'm not sure if I've ever commented this before, but love your builds. Any plans to tackle The Doctor from Doctor Who anytime soon? Could be a fun build.
He seems a bit tricky to build, especially when I'm not too familiar with the mountains' worth of source material
Oh FFS.....i love that! No my Gale needs to find His Love to Metal and Air Guitar playing.... In my head this is fckn funny lol Rocker Gale 🤣 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Feels weird not having the darkfire bow
I recommend it so much that I had to try something else
the most interesting part of this vid is that youre lvl 12 on the nautiloid... howd you do that
Theoretically speaking would Harmonic Dueler be a good 2nd Weapon for this to get more buffs from Charisma?
Yeah it would be.
I have seen a lot of your build videos and I have 2 challenges for you first is the easiest you’ve said sword bard and open hand monk is the strongest so make a build combining the two the second is much harder make a build that uses all the arrows all the spell scrolls and anything you can make with alchemy but there are restrictions you can not have any levels in wizard you can’t have any healing spells or damaging spells the only exception is if it is on a peace of equipment if it is a summon or if you can say it is just you shouting at the enemy like with vicious mockery you also can’t use a race that gets a spell at a set level
The first build sounds like fun, the second one sounds more like a challenge run than a build video.
Well I did say they were challenges @@HoboZone
The second build could be done with all levels in fighter champion but it seemed a bit boring I thought you could make it more interesting @@HoboZone
i think a drum would have been more on theme for thunder and rocker kinda thing
Yeah probably. I might end up doing a drum themed build too
What would be a good team composition for this?
I wouldn't like to say there's a perfect team comp. You can usually just run whatever and be fine. But if you're thinking of honour mode, then you'll want a healer (life cleric), a tank (paladin or barb, maybe a mix of both), and the last slot should maybe be a pure DPS build, like a fighter-rogue mix perhaps.
Does anyone know if the bug with the dual wielding has been sorted yet?
Yep it was fixed
@@HoboZone great! Just started running this build now and dual wield longswords is too cool to miss out on
If you started your build with sorcerer, you wouldn't give up Constitution proficiency.
I said this exactly in the video and explained why you could take either Bard or Sorc first. We started with Bard for the longsword proficiency, but it's an option.
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