What you said is why I just bought an official hitbox. Especially if you've never built your own stick before, the convenience of just ordering a box and then plugging it in and playing is great.
I didn't want to go down the route of buying the hit box because the one off cost is huge. With this in mind I bought a simple hitbox kit from aliexpress for about 12$ with shipping, the enclosure was made with a cardboard box from a motherboard my friend had laying around. Now I can start playing games as I'm making further upgrades. I have some wood left over which I will cut to size and stick together to be the boarders of the box(This will use power tools so people that don't have them can definitely write on some woodworking forums for help. The community is great so I wouldn't expect issues). My only cost is the plexi. If you have a drill all you need is 2 circle drill bits and you're set. This will set me back about 20$ more for plexis that are cut to size for me. So I now have an enclosure upgrade for 20$. So far I have some pretty solid enclosure along with some really bad board and buttons for $32. Again I have the choice of my next upgrade. Will I be going down the button upgrade route or will I be going down the board upgrade path? I think I'll go with the board first. Actually I'm more of an xbox user than ps4 do I will buy the xbox board. This will cost approx 50 dollars. The cable set from brook costs 23 dollars for buttons and 12 dollars for port? No thank you. I think I can manage to make these connections myself with some salvaged cables from old chargers and some soldering work. So far I have an enclosure with custom artwork available at the size I want. A solid board that has SOCD clearing up to tournament level and some really crappy buttons. It cost me $83 dollars. Even if I spend the 41 dollars on buttons when I'm ready, I will still be ahead in terms of money. The hours I've put in is something everyone has to decide individually if its worth it but there is really room for savings if you just want to play around without huge financial problems and see if hitbox is for you.
I was not expecting to see such a thorough breakdown in the comments. If you do go the route of repurposing old cables and soldering them yourself, I would love to hear how everything went.
The AFS cases can be pretty hefty in price, but they are also super solid in terms of weight and durability. I actually just got a 14" enclosure and noir button panel for $117 because I just shopped around their B-stock until they had what I wanted. So there is that option. You could also buy a used stick in the market for cheap and gut it to mod later. But yes, sticks in general are a very expensive hobby
I made my own hitbox with crossup style buttons in a large acrylic box and put a Mjolnir inside it. It's heavy and impractical AF, but I do make my statement.
just saw this video and i thank you cause ive read so many boards talking about custom or pre built and you fully help me feel secure about wanting to go the pre built route
I just bought the sanwa buttons and a raspberry pi pico, there's a project with this board that support ps4, pc and switch, and the board with custom io extension costs less than $10.
My first stick was custom built, I spent about 50 dollars to make two sticks, custom enclosure I designed in cad my self, and custom pcb I designed and soldered my self. Now I have hitbox envy and I am working on one that is cheap. I already found the brook ufb and want to use it, so it's going to be at least that plus 20 or 30 dollars.
@@ShaolinPretzels how can I show you? I planned to make it open source, but the buttons with LEDs I made it for it didn't work as I expected, so I had to modify each and every led in the buttons, so I got discouraged. But the process of making an arcade endcoder pcb is very simple for a basic one using an arduino. The pcb I am working on now will connect to a brook ufb. Also it's not very expensive to order a custom pcb including the parts
The butter bomber is the cheapest case I can find so I'll probably go with that, and the only reason Im getting into fighting sticks like hitboxes is because of the customizability of it xD, I'm saving up to make my own.
Wow, some high numbers there for the self built boxes. Might discourage people from trying it. DIY though IS a lot cheaper than implied here. Finished my first ever build at a cost about 80 USD and that's including (!) hardware to drill all the holes. Sturdy wooden box, all Sanwa buttons, all cables, Neutrik USB port and zero delay PCB. If I had opted for the PS4+ board by brook I would have ended up at 120 to 130 USD.
It really all depends on where you purchase your parts from. I was surprised that the overall cost of this build was what it was. Like I mentioned in the video, there are plenty of ways to reduce the build price. This is just one build out of the many possible builds that could replicate the Hit Box.
@@ShaolinPretzels Yeah unfortunately enclosures are highly overpriced for what they are. Some wiring solutions too btw. As you said in the video, custom building is actually not hard. And it's extremely satisfying to kick ass in a fighting game on a thing you created.
Great video. I always recommend people buy a new or used Hitbox. DIY is almost never cheaper, especially for beginners who need extra money (and time) to pay for mistakes and inexperience.
I absolutely agree. While I have an immense passion for arcade stick modding, the costs of this hobby are really hard to ignore. Especially when you’re starting out.
But if you dont practice you'll stay inexperienced and never DIY anything, this argument doesnt make sense to me. The 2 things that cost a lot are PCB cards and enclosures and you can definitely reduce their cost at around 20-30$ total (excluding the tools you'll need), that would have been nice to mention some ways to do that in order to be complete on the topic, so someone who doesnt know would have an idea of what kind of self investment he should put in the construction of the hitbox (material, knowledge, time, etc).
@@dakys3660 exactly, you can get a zero delay usb encoder + all the wires for 10 bucks which still works with pc/switch/ps3 enclosure you can build for 20-30 and some sanwa buttons enclosures are such a rip
AFS cases are fantastic quality but is you're going for budget, building a hitbox using wood or a plastic box can save you so much money while keeping the parts intact so you can move them to a different case further down the line. And with the saving, you could opt to purchase a Universal PCB instead. Great video
@@ShaolinPretzels people underestimate the simplicity of a barebones case like wood, plastic or even a rigid cardboard box (the Nintendo Switch box for example has a LOT of room to work with while being relatively small. Going with a case froma. Cheap material can be a fantastic way to dip your toe into hitboxes for cheap. Heck by using a shoebox you have laying around you can build a hitbox for PC as cheap as 70 dollars (roughly 30-35 dollars in buttons, a Zero Pi PCB ($25) and cables)
Im from Chile and we don`t have official distribuitors for hitbox and the shipping costs are ludacris for such a big and heavy hardware piece. I finally got the money to buy all the parts and I`m gonna be building a hitbox with the UFB that you recommend, im very interested in using it for PC and Ps5 to play with ma mates. Thanks for the video, much appreciate it.
I really think hte cost of building one is why people just don't. I'm great at assembling things, but if I had to map out and drill my own holes, not only is that extra expense because I know I don't have those drill bits, but if/when I screw up, I'd need to replace whatever material I was using. Sounds like fun in theory, but honestly I think I'd just have more fun buying a hitbox and swapping out the artwork and maybe some buttons.
Sick vid. Didn't realize how pricy a custom hitbox was. Can't agree more on the UFB recommendation tho. It's so much cheaper than a brooks adapter you'll inevitable get later
I always think back to when I first got my Etokki Omni. I really wanted to put in a UFB, but couldn’t go through with it. Then, the PCB died and I bought one. Haven’t looked back since! 😅
You can use Chinese buttons for the options and save a shit load of money, for 5 USD you can order like 10 Sanwa copy 24mm buttons from China. Those buttons are not used for performance so I defo recommend that.
There are definitely cheaper alternatives to the parts I listed here. My decision was to stick to specialty stores (Focus Attack and Arcade Shock) for the prices and parts listed here as I find them to be more reliable sellers.
Thank you so much for this video! I was told to build my own hitbox, and it really seems way more complicated and expensive than just buying a customized one.
You can get PCBs that don’t require soldering. I’ve never had to solder for any build that I’ve done. When you’re shopping for parts, you’ll want to look for “solderless” PCBs.
I love everything that Junk Food Customs is doing in the arcade stick space. Personally, I’m waiting for their key cap variations to return before I invest in one.
Yeah my first stick was also a custom build. Ended up being over 400. You really do get more value out of a pre-made stick. Though I love me fully custom stick.
100%. That is why, as someone who enjoys making custom builds, I still heavily support buying pre-built sticks. It’s best to make your purchase relative to your situation.
Much appreciate the super detailed video. Building a All Button controller is definitely something I've been considering as I've been shopping for the MPress or Snackbox lately. Perhaps I won't do a custom now because I'm not the most handy guy, but still sounds like something fun to do somewhere down the line. Thanks for the help man!
Something I'm keeping an eye on with AFS is their Plug-n-Play builds. They don't always have them up, but they seem to be discounted compared to a from-scratch one, and so if one doens't need a box immediately, it is a nice "Able to customize later" setup like you had but only about $60 more instead of almost $100.
You could check out Blunderbuss Designs for their enclosures. And if you’re willing to move away from a metal enclosure, Junk Food Customs Snack Box enclosures are also an option.
Hey guys, 1 jump button for two fingers is'nt uncomfortable? I know that the button is bigger, but we have enough space to have 2, and the hand will not be so close of the other anymore.
The all-button layout as we know it right now has gone through a ton of different iterations over the years before we got to the design we’re at today. The position of the jump button is interesting because of how it follows the traditional flow of your left hand, while also being close to your right hand when attacking. Personally, I enjoy the level of flexibility that this layout provides and haven’t experienced any level of discomfort with it.
Id get a hitbox if i could get one. They are always out of stock and everyone is selling them for 400 bucks unless i preorder on from the official site
Thanks for the very helpful and informative video! I'm currently using a smashbox as my all button controller and want to move to a more traditional layout so this is very helpful!
@@ShaolinPretzels It's a lot of fun to use! I used to play a lot of platform fighters before I got addicted to skullgirls, and it's honestly my favorite way to play them. Unfortunately the positioning of the 8 button cluster I use for 6 button fighters is both very high up on the board and 24mm which makes them slightly uncomfortable for some techniques. Plinking especially is something I had a very hard time on. (also you have to jump with left hand unless you rewire hardware) They are, however, the best way to play SNES games / Keyboard only platformers on. I have had significantly less discomfort playing games like The Messenger/Celeste/Touhou Luna Nights compared to on my keyboard. Basically, great for Caslevania, less great for street fighter. If you don't mind, I have a few questions about case / Brooks options. Feel free to say idk or not answer! I haven't been able to find an enclosure under 16" that is still in stock, do you know how long it usually takes for restocks for AFS? Do you know if the snackbox enclosure has sides? it looks like it is just kinda open which is really concerning. I most likely wouldn't go for an enclosure made of plastic, especially because I will be hauling it around university. It's nice to know just for the options, however. I heard that the Brooks universal fighting board won't have ps5 support natively, but needs an addon. Do you think it is worth getting the Board+addon or do you think that the board will be updated and available in the next couple of months? Thank you so much!
I’ll try to answer these the best I can. I personally can’t say how long it’ll take for AFS to be back in stock, due to the pandemic. Best bet is to follow them on Twitter for updates. The Snackbox does indeed have sides and you can customize those as well as the top and bottom. The material is also immensely durable despite it being a plastic substitute (they’ve literally run over these sticks and they’ve stayed completely intact lol). Finally, I believe the Brook add-on for the PS5 is the only way for existing Brook boards to get support for this generation of consoles. Legacy controller support for the PS5 was a big discussion when the system was coming out. It wasn’t something that Brook could just program in. Hope that helps! If you have any additional questions, either hit me up again in the comments or ask me on Twitch and Discord (links in description)! I love answering arcade stick questions.
@@ShaolinPretzels The main problem I see with aftermarket solutions is audio and/or wireless capability. If you just solder the switches right to the OEM board you would be good to go. What do you think? Would it work?
lol ofc i find this on day 3 of owning n learning my Hitbox this was a big question for me, also couldn't find anyone who switched to it from controller, only thing i struggle with is the 8 attack buttons, and i hear that's normal anyways yeah totally agree with this video, building your own is only more cost effective if you just happen to have a sturdy mod-able box but all and all alot of sketch companies and the ones that arn't which i could only find snackbox and 1 other. tend to be out of stock, make a few then go out of stock n re-design again, was gagging when i coughed up the 220$ but more i try it more i'm like yes mine keep it. cuz i had no intention of keeping it. i was gunna buy it try it n sell it now i don't wanna give it up xD it's sleek my only gripe is the top they send you has their logo imprinted into the top big deal extra 15$ ish for a new top. dont even worry about this unless you want art or to show off the insides. 10/10 love my hitbox would eat the cost again
The MPress. My primary reasoning being that it has been vetted by a larger percentage of the community and Paradise Arcade Shop is the brand I would trust the most.
How do I download the firmware update for the original hitbox? I went to the site, but I have no clue how to download it. My hitbox does not play games like DBFZ, or Virtua Fighter. But it plays Tekken, MK11 and SFV. Can someone please help me?
Here’s the download link for the more current revisions of the Hit Box (with instructions on how to apply it): www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/hit-box/hit-box-downloads If this doesn’t work, could you tell me when you initially purchased your Hit Box?
@@ShaolinPretzels thank you for the reply. I got this hitbox in the days of MvC3 for PS3. Sorry. I'm not good with exact dates. But yeah, she's up there in age. Lol.
@@ShaolinPretzels oh, yeah. I just remembered. I don't even have a ps4 controller anymore because I took my broken one to best buy for an exchange and ended up losing it just to get store credit. The only problem was there were absolutely no ps4 controllers left in the store. Lol. So now I have a gift card instead of a controller. I have to either get lucky by finding a best buy that has controllers in stock, or simply order one from the website and hope they have something in the warehouse.. By the way, I tried downloading from the exact link you gave me before. But I didn't know how to download the link. Right click? I have no clue. Yo boi is pretty pathetic when it comes to things like this. Thank you for your help, though. I appreciate that considering not alot of people go out of their way like that. Peace.
im gonna watch the rest. but 134 for the INITIAL build is fucking massive considering you could get one off amazon for 68 bucks and just replace the butttons
100%. The products I’ve shown are available on speciality stores for arcade stick hardware and not many other places. I would welcome more high-quality listings on Amazon. I picked the brands represented in this video because they are backed and supported by multiple authorities in the FGC, most of which don’t have an Amazon presence. I think it’d be a worthwhile experiment to explore the quality of part options on Amazon and see how they compare. Thank you, not only for the comment, but also for watching the whole video! It means a lot to me.
@@ShaolinPretzels True, and i see what you mean, but it's almost like it's just better overall to get the hitbox you initially showed and just leave the building one to hobbiests. There are some fightsticks like the Mayflash series that are cheap and easily modable. Which is something i'm doing to mine. Just wild to me that a hitbox is SOOOOOO much more expensive to build your own compared to just buying one outfight. and when you consider the Snack Box Micro which is insanely good quality overall, extremely portable, AND feels super comfortable. But i do totally understand what you mean though. Thanks for replying =) And yes, i always watch the full vid, what kind of asshole states their opinion before they finish the video? LOL
@@ShaolinPretzels Hey actually, would you possibly review the Mayflash f300? Talk about that? I'd love to see your input on it. Unless you already have a similar vid on it
Enjoyed the video man! I have been building a buttonless controller/“Hitbox” for a friend with big hands. Been looking for a steal enclosure around 18x10x2, any input would be appreciate.
I heard the total and couldn't help but laugh, I built my Hit Box for 91 GBP, am I missing something? Just cop a Brook board, the cable combo, some Sanwa buttons and you're good to go, most people probably have a type A to B cable if not it costs like 1-2 quid; yes I got the PC, Switch, and PS1-3 board, however upgrading that only makes it 125 GBP; and yes I haven't talked about a case because cardboard boxes exist, only true Kings and Queens can relate to that one (I'm using a motherboard box)
@@ShaolinPretzels you don't need one tho, can maybe spend 10 quid ripping off the Snack Box design or smth similar, just a basic acrylic box, wooden box, whatever, super cheap stuff, a fancy case won't make you play better than me with a cardboard box
lmao i got a custom made hitbox for 70 dollars in my country. Even in the states you can make one for like $100 if you arent stupid and waste money on STEEL! why would you make a case out of steel seriusly. you want weight add rocks inside or a smart equivalent lmao.
Thank you so much for making this, I was able to finally come to a decision and realize just buying a hitbox works better for me Also that Soejima Makoto artwork for that hitbox looks SICK! Any chance you could share the PSD file for that? :D
What you said is why I just bought an official hitbox. Especially if you've never built your own stick before, the convenience of just ordering a box and then plugging it in and playing is great.
I’m happy to have made that much of an influence! 😅 I hope you enjoy it!
Feel free to ask me any questions if you have any!!
I didn't want to go down the route of buying the hit box because the one off cost is huge. With this in mind I bought a simple hitbox kit from aliexpress for about 12$ with shipping, the enclosure was made with a cardboard box from a motherboard my friend had laying around. Now I can start playing games as I'm making further upgrades. I have some wood left over which I will cut to size and stick together to be the boarders of the box(This will use power tools so people that don't have them can definitely write on some woodworking forums for help. The community is great so I wouldn't expect issues). My only cost is the plexi. If you have a drill all you need is 2 circle drill bits and you're set. This will set me back about 20$ more for plexis that are cut to size for me. So I now have an enclosure upgrade for 20$. So far I have some pretty solid enclosure along with some really bad board and buttons for $32. Again I have the choice of my next upgrade. Will I be going down the button upgrade route or will I be going down the board upgrade path? I think I'll go with the board first. Actually I'm more of an xbox user than ps4 do I will buy the xbox board. This will cost approx 50 dollars. The cable set from brook costs 23 dollars for buttons and 12 dollars for port? No thank you. I think I can manage to make these connections myself with some salvaged cables from old chargers and some soldering work. So far I have an enclosure with custom artwork available at the size I want. A solid board that has SOCD clearing up to tournament level and some really crappy buttons. It cost me $83 dollars. Even if I spend the 41 dollars on buttons when I'm ready, I will still be ahead in terms of money. The hours I've put in is something everyone has to decide individually if its worth it but there is really room for savings if you just want to play around without huge financial problems and see if hitbox is for you.
I was not expecting to see such a thorough breakdown in the comments.
If you do go the route of repurposing old cables and soldering them yourself, I would love to hear how everything went.
The AFS cases can be pretty hefty in price, but they are also super solid in terms of weight and durability. I actually just got a 14" enclosure and noir button panel for $117 because I just shopped around their B-stock until they had what I wanted. So there is that option. You could also buy a used stick in the market for cheap and gut it to mod later. But yes, sticks in general are a very expensive hobby
I made my own hitbox with crossup style buttons in a large acrylic box and put a Mjolnir inside it. It's heavy and impractical AF, but I do make my statement.
Sometimes it’s not about practicality, but sending a message. 😂
just saw this video and i thank you cause ive read so many boards talking about custom or pre built and you fully help me feel secure about wanting to go the pre built route
You're welcome. The custom route isn't for everyone. Better to play to what's more comfortable for you.
I just bought the sanwa buttons and a raspberry pi pico, there's a project with this board that support ps4, pc and switch, and the board with custom io extension costs less than $10.
My first stick was custom built, I spent about 50 dollars to make two sticks, custom enclosure I designed in cad my self, and custom pcb I designed and soldered my self. Now I have hitbox envy and I am working on one that is cheap. I already found the brook ufb and want to use it, so it's going to be at least that plus 20 or 30 dollars.
I’d be really interested in seeing the process you went through to make a custom PCB.
@@ShaolinPretzels how can I show you? I planned to make it open source, but the buttons with LEDs I made it for it didn't work as I expected, so I had to modify each and every led in the buttons, so I got discouraged. But the process of making an arcade endcoder pcb is very simple for a basic one using an arduino. The pcb I am working on now will connect to a brook ufb. Also it's not very expensive to order a custom pcb including the parts
Also! Every time I come back to this video for reference I end up humming/dancing to the music. It’s really nice and relaxing.😊
The butter bomber is the cheapest case I can find so I'll probably go with that, and the only reason Im getting into fighting sticks like hitboxes is because of the customizability of it xD, I'm saving up to make my own.
Building arcade sticks is a very fun hobby and I think every fighting game player should look into it.
Wow, some high numbers there for the self built boxes. Might discourage people from trying it. DIY though IS a lot cheaper than implied here. Finished my first ever build at a cost about 80 USD and that's including (!) hardware to drill all the holes. Sturdy wooden box, all Sanwa buttons, all cables, Neutrik USB port and zero delay PCB. If I had opted for the PS4+ board by brook I would have ended up at 120 to 130 USD.
It really all depends on where you purchase your parts from. I was surprised that the overall cost of this build was what it was. Like I mentioned in the video, there are plenty of ways to reduce the build price. This is just one build out of the many possible builds that could replicate the Hit Box.
@@ShaolinPretzels Yeah unfortunately enclosures are highly overpriced for what they are. Some wiring solutions too btw. As you said in the video, custom building is actually not hard. And it's extremely satisfying to kick ass in a fighting game on a thing you created.
you can make a case of your own but you going to need a drill and other tools and lower the price a lot. But it is more work.
Great video. I always recommend people buy a new or used Hitbox. DIY is almost never cheaper, especially for beginners who need extra money (and time) to pay for mistakes and inexperience.
I absolutely agree. While I have an immense passion for arcade stick modding, the costs of this hobby are really hard to ignore. Especially when you’re starting out.
But if you dont practice you'll stay inexperienced and never DIY anything, this argument doesnt make sense to me. The 2 things that cost a lot are PCB cards and enclosures and you can definitely reduce their cost at around 20-30$ total (excluding the tools you'll need), that would have been nice to mention some ways to do that in order to be complete on the topic, so someone who doesnt know would have an idea of what kind of self investment he should put in the construction of the hitbox (material, knowledge, time, etc).
@@dakys3660 exactly, you can get a zero delay usb encoder + all the wires for 10 bucks which still works with pc/switch/ps3
enclosure you can build for 20-30 and some sanwa buttons
enclosures are such a rip
AFS cases are fantastic quality but is you're going for budget, building a hitbox using wood or a plastic box can save you so much money while keeping the parts intact so you can move them to a different case further down the line. And with the saving, you could opt to purchase a Universal PCB instead. Great video
Thank you! I was having this conversation with a friend last night. I would love to see cheaper enclosure options being sold out on the market.
@@ShaolinPretzels people underestimate the simplicity of a barebones case like wood, plastic or even a rigid cardboard box (the Nintendo Switch box for example has a LOT of room to work with while being relatively small.
Going with a case froma. Cheap material can be a fantastic way to dip your toe into hitboxes for cheap. Heck by using a shoebox you have laying around you can build a hitbox for PC as cheap as 70 dollars (roughly 30-35 dollars in buttons, a Zero Pi PCB ($25) and cables)
This was so inviting and friendly. This gave me what I needed to convince myself to make a hitbox. Thanks so much.
Thank you! This is one of the videos I’m most proud of.
Im from Chile and we don`t have official distribuitors for hitbox and the shipping costs are ludacris for such a big and heavy hardware piece.
I finally got the money to buy all the parts and I`m gonna be building a hitbox with the UFB that you recommend, im very interested in using it for PC and Ps5 to play with ma mates.
Thanks for the video, much appreciate it.
I’m glad I could help you find a cost-effective solution. Let me know if you have any questions about your build!
I really think hte cost of building one is why people just don't. I'm great at assembling things, but if I had to map out and drill my own holes, not only is that extra expense because I know I don't have those drill bits, but if/when I screw up, I'd need to replace whatever material I was using.
Sounds like fun in theory, but honestly I think I'd just have more fun buying a hitbox and swapping out the artwork and maybe some buttons.
It’s not for everyone. That’s why it’s important to explore all of your available options.
Wow! What an excellent video! Hope you continue to grow as a content creator, you really deserve it! Earned a new subscriber!
Thank you so much! I’ll do my best!!
Sick vid. Didn't realize how pricy a custom hitbox was. Can't agree more on the UFB recommendation tho. It's so much cheaper than a brooks adapter you'll inevitable get later
I always think back to when I first got my Etokki Omni. I really wanted to put in a UFB, but couldn’t go through with it. Then, the PCB died and I bought one. Haven’t looked back since! 😅
You can use Chinese buttons for the options and save a shit load of money, for 5 USD you can order like 10 Sanwa copy 24mm buttons from China. Those buttons are not used for performance so I defo recommend that.
There are definitely cheaper alternatives to the parts I listed here. My decision was to stick to specialty stores (Focus Attack and Arcade Shock) for the prices and parts listed here as I find them to be more reliable sellers.
Thank you so much for this video! I was told to build my own hitbox, and it really seems way more complicated and expensive than just buying a customized one.
Expensive, yes. Complicated, not so much. Once you have all the parts you need, the process becomes pretty straightforward.
@@ShaolinPretzels I imagine it requires soldering right? If not, then yeah I can get the straightforward part.
You can get PCBs that don’t require soldering. I’ve never had to solder for any build that I’ve done.
When you’re shopping for parts, you’ll want to look for “solderless” PCBs.
@@ShaolinPretzels oh ok! What about the brookboard in particular?
Especially the Brook boards. Nearly every stick I modded has a solderless Brook Universal Fighting Board. I usually get mine from Arcade Shock.
I’m building my own via junk food while I sit on dat hitbox waiting list.
I love everything that Junk Food Customs is doing in the arcade stick space. Personally, I’m waiting for their key cap variations to return before I invest in one.
Yeah my first stick was also a custom build. Ended up being over 400. You really do get more value out of a pre-made stick. Though I love me fully custom stick.
100%. That is why, as someone who enjoys making custom builds, I still heavily support buying pre-built sticks. It’s best to make your purchase relative to your situation.
Much appreciate the super detailed video. Building a All Button controller is definitely something I've been considering as I've been shopping for the MPress or Snackbox lately. Perhaps I won't do a custom now because I'm not the most handy guy, but still sounds like something fun to do somewhere down the line. Thanks for the help man!
It’s a fun time. I highly recommend you find the time to do at least one custom mod in the future.
Is there a similar enclosure the size of the Mpress?
Junk Food Customs is releasing an XL version of the Snack Box Micro that may be of a similar size.
Something I'm keeping an eye on with AFS is their Plug-n-Play builds. They don't always have them up, but they seem to be discounted compared to a from-scratch one, and so if one doens't need a box immediately, it is a nice "Able to customize later" setup like you had but only about $60 more instead of almost $100.
That is something I will have to look into. Thanks for the heads up!
Id build one if they had em in stock or there were more manufacturers. AFS is almost always out of stock
You could check out Blunderbuss Designs for their enclosures. And if you’re willing to move away from a metal enclosure, Junk Food Customs Snack Box enclosures are also an option.
Hey guys, 1 jump button for two fingers is'nt uncomfortable? I know that the button is bigger, but we have enough space to have 2, and the hand will not be so close of the other anymore.
The all-button layout as we know it right now has gone through a ton of different iterations over the years before we got to the design we’re at today.
The position of the jump button is interesting because of how it follows the traditional flow of your left hand, while also being close to your right hand when attacking. Personally, I enjoy the level of flexibility that this layout provides and haven’t experienced any level of discomfort with it.
Building my own is a lot cheaper in Europe ;p Shipping and import is expensive as hell.
Where'd you buy the parts?
I'd also like to know 👋
RIP my ears after those bells
Noted.
This is random asf but I really like your comforter.
Thank you so much! I really love the color blue. It also conveniently matches my school colors. 😅
Id get a hitbox if i could get one. They are always out of stock and everyone is selling them for 400 bucks unless i preorder on from the official site
Thanks for the very helpful and informative video!
I'm currently using a smashbox as my all button controller and want to move to a more traditional layout so this is very helpful!
Thank you!
I want to try out the Smash Box so bad. It’s the only Hit Box controller I don’t own.
@@ShaolinPretzels It's a lot of fun to use! I used to play a lot of platform fighters before I got addicted to skullgirls, and it's honestly my favorite way to play them.
Unfortunately the positioning of the 8 button cluster I use for 6 button fighters is both very high up on the board and 24mm which makes them slightly uncomfortable for some techniques. Plinking especially is something I had a very hard time on. (also you have to jump with left hand unless you rewire hardware) They are, however, the best way to play SNES games / Keyboard only platformers on. I have had significantly less discomfort playing games like The Messenger/Celeste/Touhou Luna Nights compared to on my keyboard. Basically, great for Caslevania, less great for street fighter.
If you don't mind, I have a few questions about case / Brooks options. Feel free to say idk or not answer!
I haven't been able to find an enclosure under 16" that is still in stock, do you know how long it usually takes for restocks for AFS?
Do you know if the snackbox enclosure has sides? it looks like it is just kinda open which is really concerning. I most likely wouldn't go for an enclosure made of plastic, especially because I will be hauling it around university. It's nice to know just for the options, however.
I heard that the Brooks universal fighting board won't have ps5 support natively, but needs an addon. Do you think it is worth getting the Board+addon or do you think that the board will be updated and available in the next couple of months?
Thank you so much!
I’ll try to answer these the best I can.
I personally can’t say how long it’ll take for AFS to be back in stock, due to the pandemic. Best bet is to follow them on Twitter for updates.
The Snackbox does indeed have sides and you can customize those as well as the top and bottom. The material is also immensely durable despite it being a plastic substitute (they’ve literally run over these sticks and they’ve stayed completely intact lol).
Finally, I believe the Brook add-on for the PS5 is the only way for existing Brook boards to get support for this generation of consoles. Legacy controller support for the PS5 was a big discussion when the system was coming out. It wasn’t something that Brook could just program in.
Hope that helps! If you have any additional questions, either hit me up again in the comments or ask me on Twitch and Discord (links in description)! I love answering arcade stick questions.
great vid bro, my hitbox is on the way. liked 👍
Much appreciated, Joshua! Thank you!
Biggest problem for Europeans wanting to buy a hitbox are the shipping fee and import taxes, it gets way too expensive
Checkout okiboard v2
crazy how many more "known" options there are now
I am currently working on building my own hitbox by using my old mayflash pcb
Big fan of that. Always good to reuse old parts where you can.
150 for just the box ? God damn.
To be honest, I’d love to see more 3D printed enclosures out there. I feel like that’d be much more cost-effective.
I wanna build one but using the the board from a dual shock. then solder the connection to the buttons.
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@@ShaolinPretzels The main problem I see with aftermarket solutions is audio and/or wireless capability. If you just solder the switches right to the OEM board you would be good to go. What do you think? Would it work?
@@The_Brenton There is a possibility that it could work. I never thought of doing something like this. Would be interesting to try out.
Building is much better when you live outside of the US, because buying an official hitbox will cost you an arm and a leg with shipping and customs
Yeah, I personally wish we had more international vendors in the arcade stick space. Outside of Japan and the US, costs can get obscene.
lol ofc i find this on day 3 of owning n learning my Hitbox this was a big question for me, also couldn't find anyone who switched to it from controller, only thing i struggle with is the 8 attack buttons, and i hear that's normal anyways yeah totally agree with this video, building your own is only more cost effective if you just happen to have a sturdy mod-able box but all and all alot of sketch companies and the ones that arn't which i could only find snackbox and 1 other. tend to be out of stock, make a few then go out of stock n re-design again, was gagging when i coughed up the 220$ but more i try it more i'm like yes mine keep it. cuz i had no intention of keeping it. i was gunna buy it try it n sell it now i don't wanna give it up xD it's sleek my only gripe is the top they send you has their logo imprinted into the top big deal extra 15$ ish for a new top. dont even worry about this unless you want art or to show off the insides. 10/10 love my hitbox would eat the cost again
Well said. Ever since I got my Hit Box, it’s been difficult to make an argument to not use it.
Why your voice gotta be so smooth tho xD
Based God can you please teach me how to build one
I sometimes do live arcade stick builds from start to finish on my Twitch streams.
Could you buy a random hitbox and swap out the mother board for a universal one?
There’s nothing stopping you!
Hi brother between fightbox b1 vs fightbox f1 vs mpress vs RAC J800B do you recommend ¿
The MPress. My primary reasoning being that it has been vetted by a larger percentage of the community and Paradise Arcade Shop is the brand I would trust the most.
Could you make one of these for the mixbox?
I could see that being a nice video to go along this one. I’ll put it on my calendar.
Well, the Hitbox in EU is 400EUR which is $480.
That’s obscene. I can imagine paying extra for shipping, but paying over twice the retail price is ridiculous.
does the brook universal fighting board support the original x box? If not, what are some others that do?
The Brook Universal Fighting Board does not. Check out the Brook Retro Board for original Xbox support.
@@ShaolinPretzels cool! thank you
How do I download the firmware update for the original hitbox? I went to the site, but I have no clue how to download it.
My hitbox does not play games like DBFZ, or Virtua Fighter. But it plays Tekken, MK11 and SFV.
Can someone please help me?
Here’s the download link for the more current revisions of the Hit Box (with instructions on how to apply it): www.hitboxarcade.com/blogs/hit-box/hit-box-downloads
If this doesn’t work, could you tell me when you initially purchased your Hit Box?
@@ShaolinPretzels thank you for the reply. I got this hitbox in the days of MvC3 for PS3. Sorry. I'm not good with exact dates.
But yeah, she's up there in age. Lol.
@@ShaolinPretzels oh, yeah. I just remembered. I don't even have a ps4 controller anymore because I took my broken one to best buy for an exchange and ended up losing it just to get store credit. The only problem was there were absolutely no ps4 controllers left in the store.
Lol.
So now I have a gift card instead of a controller.
I have to either get lucky by finding a best buy that has controllers in stock, or simply order one from the website and hope they have something in the warehouse..
By the way, I tried downloading from the exact link you gave me before. But I didn't know how to download the link.
Right click? I have no clue. Yo boi is pretty pathetic when it comes to things like this.
Thank you for your help, though.
I appreciate that considering not alot of people go out of their way like that.
Peace.
No problem! I try to help when I can.
im gonna watch the rest. but 134 for the INITIAL build is fucking massive considering you could get one off amazon for 68 bucks and just replace the butttons
I stand by what i said.
100%. The products I’ve shown are available on speciality stores for arcade stick hardware and not many other places. I would welcome more high-quality listings on Amazon.
I picked the brands represented in this video because they are backed and supported by multiple authorities in the FGC, most of which don’t have an Amazon presence. I think it’d be a worthwhile experiment to explore the quality of part options on Amazon and see how they compare.
Thank you, not only for the comment, but also for watching the whole video! It means a lot to me.
@@ShaolinPretzels True, and i see what you mean, but it's almost like it's just better overall to get the hitbox you initially showed and just leave the building one to hobbiests.
There are some fightsticks like the Mayflash series that are cheap and easily modable. Which is something i'm doing to mine.
Just wild to me that a hitbox is SOOOOOO much more expensive to build your own compared to just buying one outfight. and when you consider the Snack Box Micro which is insanely good quality overall, extremely portable, AND feels super comfortable.
But i do totally understand what you mean though. Thanks for replying =)
And yes, i always watch the full vid, what kind of asshole states their opinion before they finish the video? LOL
You’d be surprised. lol Again, thank you.
@@ShaolinPretzels Hey actually, would you possibly review the Mayflash f300? Talk about that? I'd love to see your input on it. Unless you already have a similar vid on it
I want to make a fight stick
Don't buy a hitbox cuz there's better options out there nowadays like the Snack Box Micro and the Mpress Hitbox
Enjoyed the video man! I have been building a buttonless controller/“Hitbox” for a friend with big hands. Been looking for a steal enclosure around 18x10x2, any input would be appreciate.
The closest I was able to find was AllFightSticks 18” enclosure. It’s 18” x 8.5” x 2.25”.
allfightsticks.com/products/18-standard-bodies
I heard the total and couldn't help but laugh, I built my Hit Box for 91 GBP, am I missing something? Just cop a Brook board, the cable combo, some Sanwa buttons and you're good to go, most people probably have a type A to B cable if not it costs like 1-2 quid; yes I got the PC, Switch, and PS1-3 board, however upgrading that only makes it 125 GBP; and yes I haven't talked about a case because cardboard boxes exist, only true Kings and Queens can relate to that one (I'm using a motherboard box)
There’s a reason I mentioned the enclosure price first. It’s insane how much of the cost of a custom build is just the case.
@@ShaolinPretzels you don't need one tho, can maybe spend 10 quid ripping off the Snack Box design or smth similar, just a basic acrylic box, wooden box, whatever, super cheap stuff, a fancy case won't make you play better than me with a cardboard box
Right. That’s why I argued in the video that making your own enclosure is one of the best things you can do to reduce the costs.
The video is very good all around but PLEASE lower the volume of those dings. It's so disproportionate to your speaking volume it legitimately hurts.
Noted for next time. Thank you for the feedback.
is there a way to use the hitbox on the xbox one?
The official Hit Box does not currently have native support for the Xbox 360/One/Series X. You would need an adapter for those consoles.
You could just make an enclosure homie.
As mentioned, that’s one of the best options.
lmao i got a custom made hitbox for 70 dollars in my country. Even in the states you can make one for like $100 if you arent stupid and waste money on STEEL! why would you make a case out of steel seriusly. you want weight add rocks inside or a smart equivalent lmao.
Fair.
with hitbox official price increase better to go custom
Thank you so much for making this, I was able to finally come to a decision and realize just buying a hitbox works better for me
Also that Soejima Makoto artwork for that hitbox looks SICK! Any chance you could share the PSD file for that? :D
It’s been years since I’ve seen that file, but if I can find it I’ll post it in my server.
@@ShaolinPretzels Awesome that'd be great thank you so much!
DING DING DING DING. why did you make the dings so loud hurt my ears.
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