Honest Hearts 02 - Joshua Graham & The Dead Horses - Fallout New Vegas Lore
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Joshua Graham, American Roman guy who becomes a Mormon Tribe Chief.
Only in Fallout.
zombielizard218 technically a Mormon American who became a Roman guy who became a fire guy who became a burned tribe chief but,basically yeah
Romans have a long standing tradition of converting to Christianity
@@XanltheCSG The Romans crucified Jesus.
@@NukeCaulfield The Roman empire became a Christian empire which established the Church. Many saints are Roman converts.
@@NukeCaulfield oh actually it was the j-
“ I was baptized twice, once in water and once in flames” - Joshua Graham the most badass quote ever
Dude he looks like humpty dumpty in this mod
@Sifra Aprillia Fahira Humpty Dumpty had a great Fall (in The Hoover Dam)
Likely a reference to Matthew 3:11.
"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire."
-John the Baptist
Either that or: “I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me”
1By the rivers of Babylon,
There we sat down, yea, we wept
When we remembered Zion.
2 We hung our harps
Upon the willows in the midst of it.
3 For there those who carried us away captive asked of us a song,
And those who plundered us requested mirth,
Saying, “Sing us one of the songs of Zion!”
4 How shall we sing the Lord’s song
In a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem,
Let my right hand forget its skill!
6 If I do not remember you,
Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth-
If I do not exalt Jerusalem
Above my chief joy.
7 Remember, O Lord, against the sons of Edom
The day of Jerusalem,
Who said, “Raze it, raze it,
To its very foundation!”
8 O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed,
Happy the one who repays you as you have served us!
9 Happy the one who takes and dashes
Your little ones against the rock!
Fun fact: with a high enough intelligence you have an option to understand what the Dead Horse woman says to you in her language and respond to her in English.
ElGringoCastellano How? I had mentats and 10 intelligence, never saw that option.
I think he meant speech probably
Edit)or mabye both
Thooomas' pigeons its a perception check I believe
Pretty sure it’s barter
You're right it is
"If you harm Daniel or any of the Sorrows or Dead Horses, I will find you. Make no mistake. God willing, you will not leave this valley."
I cacth the reference
Desmond Howard
I almost feel like Liam Neson should have said that
Justin Helms no This man is better
Haha I haven't been back to this video in awhile xD. Thanks for the likes y'all!
I blew his head off....
"Are they a gang or a tribe?" *Great Khans intensify*
"Are they a gang or a tribe?"
"Yes."
💀
Un TeChNeClY ThErE a ClAn 😂
The Great Khans are actually Raiders. They’re labeled as such back in Fallout 1/2, and they use guns like any other Raider Gang would. They’re just a very old Raider Gang, and so they have a proud heritage going back over 100 years.
I would say a religion
I played this game numerous times before adding the DLCs later. The first time it rained in Zion I must have spent a minute just looking up thinking "Holy shit, it's raining."
Same... It was simple and not even that graphically impressive but it was just such a wonderful moment. Huh, one does not normally get to use the word wonderful in that context often these days.
My reaction through my Courier who has never seen, read about, nor heard about rain before in their life: *screaming while scrambling to the nearest building/cave* "tHE WORLD IS ENDING!"
i could watch him reloading those guns all day, such a cool animation.
It's amazing how something as simple as rain can really affect the mood. Almost seems to make the world feel more alive.
Britain Nazar again!!!!!!
Legends say Joshua is still inspecting his guns to this day.
Let's just say I lost patience with him doing that and now he has remains of an Anti Material Rifle is his head.
Jordan Olives thank u
General Atomic hes gotta do some calibrations.
Vibes Mystery I’m sure he still put you down in just one clip
The Ouchiegiver *Mag
Joshua Graham is the most badass Mormon ever
Alfred and possibly most badass man ever
That all determined by what you mean by badass, since one of Brigham Young's top men could be considered above even Joshua as a Badass.
John Browning was a Mormon
Look up Porter Rockwell. Total badass- and possibly a real life element used it creating Joshua Graham.
@@Samuel-wm6wv nice profile pic, needs to be a little more liberalitarian
Joshua Graham's "ancestor" would be John Browning and I think the pistol is the 1911 a design so good people still swear by it.
jhon 35170
Vietnam*
Also John Browning was Mormon who ran his business out of Ogden
Notice that the 9mm pistol, like Maria which is used by Benny, looks like a 1911. Does that mean that the 1911 in the game was originally made for 9mm and then 45 auto (acp)
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This comment section is the best learning so much about history in guns.
if you have the "living anatomy" perk (which shows peoples health and DT) you will see that joshua has a DT of 50 making him almost invincible
Parker Smith "I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me"
Parker Smith That is why he survived being burned alive
He's a tough huy
An unarmed build with perks suchs as piercing strike, slayer and super slam will get the job done.
@Alex GM no ap rounds for that gun so good luck with that.
"The Rez" is common slang refering to the local Reservation, the Tribals are descendants of Native Americans.
I moved to the town right beside my rez to get wifi. We dont have internet on reservations
Bug Bones same, it kinda sucks but at least we have cable up there.
@@thebaronanative8289 could be worse, some reserves dont have drinking water
@Rick They are free. They have just as many rights as everyone else.
From what Joshua said, he might be referring to the Navajo Reservation.
I see that my word has spread faster than my hearts flame.
Joshua Graham go with God my friend your work on earth is not over yet brother let's make the world a better place.
I was honored to help the dead horses like you said wageing war on good people is bad for the soul
I killed caesar just so you know
Brother Graham, it is good to see you. With the Prophet dead after the White Legs' assault, The remaining Apostles have nominated you for the position. Brother Graham, will you accept our Lord's calling and lead us in this time of need, so that one day, we may reclaim our home?
You are truly one of the most underrated characters in FNV. I look forward to seeing you again in FNV2, God Willing.
Twobears-highfiving
AshDog 55 whappssh
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18:47 Being threatened by Joshua Graham has got to be one of the most chilling lines in all of New Vegas.
He sort of echoes Neeson in Taken
Personally I think Joshua Graham quoting Psalms 137:1, 7, 8, and 9 tops it.
yeah he's not a guy to be messed with.
@@nicholascauton9648 I'm not very religious but it showed his will and it was powerful
Legate is scary as fuck
Haha I love the real world history they really did their research !!! Graham talks about the 45 automatic pistol . And it's design spanning 400 years ago ,, he's referring to john Moses browning designer of the 1911 WHO was ironically a Mormon from Utah , wow obsidian really done their research and as a gun enthusiast I'm impressed
Daniel Webb I love the 1911. Best pistol ever made
To bad Oxhorn didn't do nearly as much research on this DLC as he did with the others leaving that bit about Browning out, and completely ignoring the Utes tribe that the state was named after.
My opinion is stupid And doesn't matter but 45 70 gov revolver u mean
I know I’m late but it’s not hard to google search “who designed the 1911 pistol” I have nothing against obsidian and new Vegas is my favourite game, but if you are going to appreciate them it shouldn’t be for their research.
Both from Ogden Utah
"You're a courier, no less Not the one I was expecting, but I suppose he wouldn't come with a caravan." I love the foreshadow of Ulysses in each DLC.
He was foreshadowed throughout ever DLC
Between Ulysses and father Elisha.
Sorry for the miss spelling.
I'm surprised that no one mentionned that Joshua Graham has the best voice actor in the history of gaming
JackOfBlades The shipmaster (mark hammill hated that)
Dr. Mobius in Old World Blues is pretty good too
Joshua Graham, kinda reminds me of Darth Vader. He was loyal and proud member of his tribe, joined Caesar's Legion, killed and done unspeakable things to people. Until he failed his mission and was then punish for his sins. Being burned alive awaken him deep inside his honest heart. To rewrite his wrongs and make his tribe and family proud.
Top 3 Voice actors:
3: BattleBlock Theater Narrator.
Happy and silly mannerisms with some sneaky rated M jokes make him a blast!
2: Darkest Dungeon Ancestor.
Dark and brooding with a dash of wisdom. Extremely atmospheric and quotable.
1: Joshua Graham.
A soft, tender and slightly rough tone soothes the soul, reminding you that you are under his protection, but also reminding you that he means every word he says, for better or for worse.
Ulysses. He must eat coffee beans and tobacco in the morning
Sorry to say so. But Joshua Graham is just inspecting guns, not reloading them. Pulls back slide => slide catches => empty magazine => looks down empty barrel => puts in same magazine.
EEDIR yes lol its looks like he is inventorying the guns
Still badass. Leave no gun unchecked and with bullets...
He is inspecting the rifling in each pistol for internal damage- when he looks down the barrel. He has already checked that it is unloaded and removed the magazine, so no harm in looking down the rifling. :)
I guess they (the programmers) intended to show Joshua's extreme attention to detail or his total obsession, when planning a move. The more funnier way to look at it, is that the tribe aren't able to maintain the weapons properly, and he has to do it for them, slaving away in the back of the cave. ;)
Proves that Obsidian knows guns even more than bethesda.
"Nothing says ""obey me"" like a head on a pike."
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Fidel Cashflow that needs to be a shirt
Words of wisdom from Stewie.
I cook with mustard gas.
I love the little anecdote about who created the .45 Auto Pistol. John Browning, the man behind so many iconic American firearms, and the inventor of the M1911, was a Mormon born in Utah. Such a small detail for history buffs but it really hits home.
As a Utah man myself, I really apreciated that nod
@@maxboyden5209 I live less then a mile outside of Zion, you can imagine this was interesting to play through
The Guy that voiced Joshua gram is the same guy that gives you the quest in skyrim to get the skull of corruption
Ah, Erandur. Such a nice chap. Same going-back story too. Talks about Mara's love quite a lot, too.
theevilone23 MEEEEASMAA
theevilone23 Knee I liked that guy lot
Keith Szarabajka. Dudes Pretty badass voice. He also voiced Crowfather in the darksiders series
And in fallout 76 he vocie a enclave scientist
Joshua is my favourite fallout character, barring my own beliefs. He's inspiring, reborn, protective, soft spoken. A man who once reveled in cruelty and evil, a man under Caeser, who is arguably the most evil man to rise since the bombs dropped. And after this, being reborn, literally tasting this own cruel medicine, he sees the error in his ways and seeks to love, protect, nurture these ignorant tribals, keeping these humble people away from the evil he once doled out so indiscriminately.
The Warden I agree, the amount of background and depth to his character is awe inspiring.
The Warden he’s my favorite too! So many inspiring qualities, like being a made up videogame man.
I liked him and thought it was interesting that some form of Christianity survived into the wasteland but the fact that it was mormonism made me roll of eyes. At that point just create a new mythology like immortan joe
Ian Berry I kinda noticed that too as a Catholic myself. He seems to place an emphasis on more orthodox Christian beliefs than some of the stuff that Mormonism has that’s unique to them.
Honestly while the debate about the form of Christianity is interesting, a few points. First most of what Mormons talk about with people unfamiliar with Christianity in general do keep to the general Christian views. Second Joshua specifically talks about one of his "people's" ancestors building the guns he is working with, and those guns were Designed by Browning, even if the rights to the models were sold to Colt later, and Browning was Mormon. And finally his comment about a "Light in the Darkness" does reflect a Mormon specific view around Hell in their teachings, as what most Christian followings call "Hell" the Mormons call "The Outer Darkness" which both the sinners that can't be saved and those that have been saved can be found, as while the ones that couldn't be saved are trapped their those that were saved can freely visit, and thus the saved found there are "Lights in the Darkness".
Now that said Mormons especially from Ogden and the first settlement in Utah with Brigham Young are known to be very cruel in the dark parts of there history, in fact one of Brigham Young's top men was known to be so cruel he would be a perfect counterpart to Joshua before the First battle of Hoover Dam, and the criminal elements of Ogden were so bad they kept Al Capone from even attempting to expand into Ogden at least, Utah at most, So seeing Joshua as a Mormon is a subtle nod to the state's History those outside of Utah would almost likely never know.
Joshua Graham checked around 200 guns in this one video
Holy shit
18:17 I love how Graham is such a badass. You threaten Daniel and Graham gives you three simple facts about reality
No
Simple fact, Graham foolishly lets slip how much he cares about a man and the tribes, he then insults and threatens a lvl 50 badass with full kit.
"Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how long it takes to scrape Daniel off those canyon walls."
Joshua Graham=Darth Vader
Both get burned
Both failed at something big
Both are a second in command
Both were redeemed
Darth vader wasnt 2nd in command. he was outside the command structure
nox5555 Ahh thanks man, didn't know that
He is just the fixer.
if shit hits the fan, vader will show up and kick some asses.
Tarkin is the real number 2. he is also in charge of the death star, not vader-
And both aren't coming back for the sequel
@@nox5555 Exactly,Grand Moff Tarkin was the only person,other than the Emperor that Vader answered to.
I'm just glad that even in these trying post-nuclear times, I can still count on the Mormons knocking on my goddamn door every Tuesday morning.
Hi, I'm elder Boyden. Do you have some time to hear our message?
Hi I'm elder Johnson this is elder one do you have time to talk about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
That is a shout out to Nick Johnson from his TH-cam page he is awesome by far check him out
"God willing, you will not leave this valley."
-"..Alive?"
_"Did I stutter?"_
I read that with Joshua Grahams voice
Joshua Graham is my favorite fallout character ever. He's principled, consistent, dedicated, and is a total badass.
Hear, hear!
He's my favorite by far too, and I have practically _all_ of his voiced lines in Honest Hearts committed perfectly to memory. That also speaks volumes about the voice actor who brought him to life (who Oxhorn actually did a livestream with not too long ago), truly one of the greatest of all time.
Oh, and thank you for spelling that correctly @@FortunateJuice, glad to see it hahaha
Same he's my fav of all Fallout char, fangirling over him haha
Holy cow how many guns does Joshua have in that stack?
enough for a tribe
rifles would be a lot better choice
Jeffrey Stewart but where would he get them? He got the pistols from sheer luck, how the hell would he find enough rifles to arm an entire tribe of warriors in a canyon? Besides, all the troubles the tribes come across are wild animals and rival tribes, armed with the same type of weaponry or less, use what's at hand and not need it rather needing something you don't have.
UntouchedWagons only 1 pistol per stack even though it looks like 10 lol
Infinity plus 1
No mention of the creator of the M1911 and how John M Browning was a Mormon? Dang it
Not specifically, but it is mentioned. Of course, if Obsidian or Bethesda identified those .45's as 1911's they'd have had to get permission from the manufacturers.
I mean I get that but I was saying was that oxhorn noted some theories about some of the tribes and not the pistol, but that's just me. But he might mention the pistols lore in the equipment video at the end of the series
Nicholas Cross But wouldn't it make sense for the gun to use 9mm instead?
Raime The Fume Knight the pistol in real life, the M1911, is chambered in .45 ACP, but there are of brand variants that are chambered in 9mm
McChazster he said this "this pistol was made 400 years ago by my tribe" he meant Browning the creator of the M1911 since both of Browning and Joshua Graham are Mormons.
"Tribe called NCR, the sunset people"
The YAO GUAI people
Oxhorn, you didn't delve into my favorite peace of lore about Joshua gram!
Its little but its cool that the devs snuck it in.
When the courier asks Joshua about his guns, he mentions that "It was a design made by a member of his tribe over four hundred years ago." Joshua is talking about "John Moses Browning" who was a real life famous gun designer and a strong believing Mormon (Which through other lore we find out that Joshua belief system is heavily based on Mormonism.) in the early 20th century. John Browning made many gun designs and patents but his most famous one was possibly the "Colt M1911 .45 automatic pistol" which is represented in the NV Honest hearts DLC as the ".45 automatic."
6:34 "Enseeyar" haha I laughed so hard.
Smelly Unfortunate I laughed too when I first heard it. Him thinking that NCR us a tribe is just hilarious.
I mean, they are.
Technically.
kjsdpgijn no they aren't. the NCR came from vault (I forgot the #) than grew to an army. with other wastelanders joining the NCR
yeah
Smelly Unfortunate just realized this
Who else can't wait for The Full Story of Randall Dean Clark- The Survivalist? I have a feeling Ox's video on him will be amazing. One of my favorite stories ever told in a Fallout game
same here lol. His gun is really good too.
TheDarkSkull Used to watch Apple's channel all the time, actually. Gravitated more towards Shoddycast and then Oxhorn. His content is good but I really prefer Ox's storytelling
Premium Jargon Yeah, I agree. Apple is astounding as a comedy channel, with Oxhorn excelling in storytelling, while ShoddyCast is a decent mixture of the two.
great stuff! super depressing, tho'. i like how
spoilers yo
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the Sorrows conflated him and the New Canaanites' God, as if YHWH was tinkering with rifles in his down time after creating existence. pointing that out to...was it Daniel or Josh? it's a fun insight to deliver. "oh. huh. yeah i guess they would think that. i gotta work on my missionary-ing."
since dead money i cant wait on the series on the big empty aka old world blues
The main reason I'm glad Interplay closed down and never released their version of Fallout 3 is because, in that game, the Burned Man was a crazy psycho. In FNV, they managed to make him one of the best characters in the franchise, with an extraordinarily morally ambiguous backstory. He has committed atrocities, but did so truly believing it was for the greater good. And his change of heart and story of redemption are genuine.
His original description had him attack anyone while you have him as a companion. Vastly different from how he is in NV
His tribe...John Moses Browning, he designed the 1911 pistol. Man was a firearm Genius and he was a Mormon, like Joshua Graham
Follows-Chalk had some pretty shifty eyes when you first met him
silentassason you would too after you just executed someone without remorse. You can't tell me that follows chalk didn't execute that white leg...
It was a graphical glitch since my character was so far away. Textures do not fully load until you get close to them, but the camera zoomed right up into his face while I was still on the bridge. Game engine bug.
Oxhorn you sir are a true story teller
silentassason god bless Fallout LODs
Oxhorn I figured I just love the idea that he is always on constant look out .>
Honest Hearts and Old World Blues are my most favorite of the bunch. Btw, funny story, my first time playing the Honest Hearts dlc, I was always sniping from afar with the hunting rifle with scope, upgraded bolt, extended mag, and JSP rounds and I actually thought follows chalk was a bad gay at first and killed him. I was confused and literally spent the next 6 hours killing the friendly NPCs who I thought were hostile. It wasn't until I saw the ending cut scene that I literally ruined everything, so I had to read a guide to find out that I fucked up at the beginning by killing Follows Chalk....and thus I felt like a total idiot. The next day I then proceeded to reply the whole story and find all the logs of Randal Clark which literally made me cry, and had one of the best days I've ever had and one of the most amazing moments in video gaming I've ever experienced. New Vegas is the best Fallout since the first 2 10000000/10
Lora Elstad truer words have never been spoken, fellow wastelander 😉
Jaime Perez at least fnv actually let u kill him. Not to bash F4 or 3 but here's how'd it would probably go in 3 and 4. (Snipes follows chalk) *Follows Chalk is unconscious* (attempts to kill Joshua Graham and all the other dead horses) *everyone's flipping unconcious*. I just thought this was funny to think about..
Scrublord Senior hahahahahaha the sad part is, ur absolutely right! Man.....it's a good game with SO MUCH POTENTIAL, and they squandered it pretty badly in my opinion. At least there's some very good mods for the game at the moment. My house was robbed like a year ago and my computer was stolen at the time, and I haven't been able to recuperate my losses very well. The cops here in Oxnard,CA are absolutely worthless, we have video footage of the robbery and in HD, and still they haven't ever caught the theirs or get ANY mine or my family's stuff. All I've been able to get is my younger brothers Xbox 1 cuz he felt really sorry for me.
It's nice to know I wasn't the only one who mistook Follows-Chalk for a bad guy
Jaime Perez I'm so sorry. I hope u get your stuff back,my dude
I am Joshua Graham... and these... are my weapons. They weigh 1.5 pounds, are equipped with custom heavy duty slides and fire custom high pressure .45 rounds. It costs 400,000 caps to fire these guns... or twelve seconds...
Some Legionary assassins think they can outsmart me. Maybe. Maybe.
I have yet to encounter one that can outsmart a bullet
I am the heavy weapons Mormon.
*MAYBE* $4,000 Caps for special ammo and buying the mods for that description. That keeps okay with the joke.
Now, a *Grenade Machinegun* and all it entails? THAT'S $400,000!
@@centric3125 True.
Who else read that with Joshua's voice?
Grahm's warning about attacking Missionary Daniel reminds me of a story where a guy tried to attack four Samoan missionaries with umbrellas. I'm not sure how it ended but probably not well for the attacker.
Seeing as Samoans are, from some rumors I've heard in olden times, effectively immune to blunt strikes/fists and generally don't seem to give a flying f### about anything else, that guy most likely was very suddenly and very quickly reduced to a screaming, crying wreck who needed an ambulance ride.
German and Austrian physicists and German scientists worked at Los Alamos after WW2 to develope missiles and rocket technology... Hence the mixture of English/German
The Last War happened in 2077, so probably not. It implied there were Germanic tourists visiting a Naitive American reservation when the war happened.
They're not from Los Alamos, they're from Colorado, Oxhorn got that bit wrong
christopher allsopp FAIL!!!
As someone born and raised in Ogden, I find it amazing that the legion's most badass Legate was born and raised here to
I know im late but the language of the visitors must have been german. The tribal women spoke something very similar to german
Glad I'm not the only one who thought I heard that.
Winged Hunter256 Trust me, i am a native german speaker. And these languages are not as similar as people think. The Scandinavian languages are completly unintelligible to us.
Krasser Typ I think it's Dutch
English isn't that removed from German. They're both Germanic languages.
She said "Outlander suche JG". That's German.
Joshua reloading those guns is just...hypnotic.
He seems like a lost character from the Dark Tower books
Joshua Graham wasn't reloading the 1911s, he is inspecting them, also showed good deal of gun safety (He locked the slide back, ejected the magazine, checked the chamber for any round. THEN looked down the barrel.
Joshua Graham does have a similar story as Shishio Makoto form the anime Rurouni Kenshin. In that anime, Shishio was doused with oil and burned alive after a gunshot to the head. However they are very opposites. Shinshio is a major villain (and the getting burned alive didn't really change him)
it made him more crazy. He killed a women who loved him just to get at kenshin.
Im glad someone else noticed this as well. Though, i read somewhere that joshua grahams character was meant for van burren and he was meant to be reviled by the tribes people, as well as still maintaining his cruelty. So that definitely would have been super close to shishio. I wonder if the writer for him was a kenshin fan.
@@nelsonr1467 why so angry?
@@Mr.Classic91 just tired of the safety Nazis.
@@nelsonr1467 anger only works against you bud.
Fun Fact if you don't know Yaoi Guai is Chinese for monster or evil spirit.
I always thought it was a nod to yogi and boo boo
Sleeping dogs thought me that
Explains their demonic appearance.
That’s Kinda strange. Did the descendants of surviving Chinese soldiers name them?
@@bigpigeon2384 the game will later explain it, but the tribals in HH hearts are a mixture of the Chinese and Dutch tourists that got trapped in Zion when the nukes fell. (They're also mixed in with Native Americans from rhe reservation ofc)
You deserve so many more views for the massive amount of work that you do
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Joshua graham: LEMME JUST CHECK THIS PISTOLS MAG FOR THE FIFTIETH TIME
God punished him to clean His Airsoft collection for all eternity.
My question is, why does Follows-Chalk pronounce it 'Kaisar' when he only knows of his existence through Joshua Graham, who pronounces it with a soft 'C'?
Chris Warman I noticed the same thing. I've never played Fallout but from what I've learned watching Oxhorn's videos Legionnaires pronounce Caesar as "Kay-zar" (which is the proper pronunciation from real history according to Oxhorn in his video on the Legion) while non-Legionnaires pronounce it "See-zer". Even Follows-Chalk pronounces it "Kay-zar" when one would think he learned the name from Joshua. My guess is when he renounced the Legion Joshua decided to start pronouncing Caesar as "See-zer".
Chris Warman
All I can think of is the two languages that you would get Caesar from - Greek and Latin. High class Romans during Caesars time spoke Latin, which uses a soft 'C' (see-zar) but Greek was the common language which uses a hard 'C' (Kay-Sar).
So since Joshua is descended from Mormons perhaps he decided to learn Latin? I don't know why that would be the case and it's a long shot. Maybe it was just overlooked.
tallman11282 Maybe it hurts more to pronounce it the other way? His entire face is completely burned, even his mouth, so maybe he's just going with the more comfortable option.
Chris Warman I'm guessing that Joshua used to pronounce it as all Legionaries do, but for one reason or another he decided to adjust his manner of speaking after leaving the legion. Possibly relating to his completely scorched face and neck.
Maybe Joshua didn't meet the tribe alone and had a Frumentari or someone like that with him. He was the leader of the army and leaders often delegate tasks for various reasons. Even if Bethesda wants to make us believe that a General has to do everything himself.
Follows-Chalk also mentions Caesar and his army in a way that makes me think that he at least was part of it.
He protecc
He attac
But most importantly he bacc
You know who I'm talking about.
anime love you made my day : )
Joshua, Ulysses, Dr. Mobius, Father Elijah. BEST. CHARACTERS. EVER.
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Reddit in a nutshell when anything religious comes up.
I think some fallout new vegas content on ur channel would be great Nathan also amazing work your doing keep up the good work and f rockstar for not investing their time into bully 2
Exactly what I thought lmao
*Incoming angry edgy atheists*
"Praying for my daughter to finally become cancer-free"
"Heh, you don't akshually believe that, do yew?"
I'm here today to tell you that because of your family's service to our country, you have been pre-selected for entrance into the local Vault.
Vault-Tec rep How are those steak knifes? 😏
hows not being able to talk to anyone coming along?
Vault-Tec rep sorry i already got a spot in vault 95, also you got any med-x?
what if I don't want to talk to you?
Pre-selected? You know what is pre-selected, this settlement, here i’ll mark it on your map
When Graham started talking about the Res and the visitors combining their languages and hearing the woman talk before talking to Joshua, some of the words she said had some German pronunciation in it (although the spelling was obviously wrong) Let me explain a little.
She says "Owslandr zookuh Joshua Graham?"
When, in German, I would say (directly) "Auslaender sucht nach Joshua Graham?"
In English, "Foreigner (or Out-lander) is searching (or searches) for Joshua Graham?"
Now, I had to add a word, but that's for the sake of keeping the grammar correct. But I mean, after however long they've been combining the languages, the pronunciation is going to be changed along with the grammar.
But hey, that's just my input on the subject.
Plus I don't have umlauts on my keyboard. I just live in Germany with my wife and have to learn the language.
EDIT: I just looked it up on the wiki, and now I feel dumb for posting this xd
useful none the less
ouslander = foreigner
I was stunned when the tribal started speaking German-like words like Owslandr. I'm glad someone already pointed it out.
yeah, the visitors were probably German tourists. German pop culture loves native American stereotypes, especially the plains tribes like the Dakota and Lakota and Apaches. i don't really get why, but it's definitely a thing. i attended a lecture given on the topic, especially Edward Two-Two, who did...let's call them wild west shows? He did horse tricks, bow exhibitions, &c. He was a big dude and in shows fit the idea of a noble warrior perfectly.
Germany's fondness of the wild west dates back to the extremely popular Karl May youth novels published and written in the late 19th century, which also were also made into extremely popular movies in the 60's.
As for the Dead Horses' language, it indeed is also influenced by the german language, as confiormed by Josh Sawyer, who speaks german himself.
I don't find threats to be believable in most games or films, but the threat Joshua makes is delivered so well by the voice actor that I want to believe him.
His threat drove me to kill Daniel and wipe out the tribes. It's dumb when NPCs talk tough to someone that can clearly smash their skull in.
I started crying when he talked about his family's love for him and God.
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@@Khoros-Mythos no u
12:42 he says Dead "LEGS" but no problem.
I am a garbage man and someone tossed out about 1000 caps and I totally thought of you oxhorn.
Joshua is straight up one of my favorite characters in the entire game.
In all of video games tbh. Hi Nagatoro
Joshua Graham is an interesting character, its not everyday a game puts in Christian beliefs, its almost like another version of the old testiment back when the isrealis were battling against other abominations (fallen angels and humans children), for example the phillistines.
George Cortez I love it.
Jewish beliefs he calls you a gentile.
Jordan fisher Gentile is used by Christians as well most notably the Mormons that Joshua's people came from
George Cortez he isn’t interesting because of his religion. He pretty much just brushes over it like “oh by the way I’m a new Canaanite and we believe in god” He is more interesting due to his past.
@@WhiteSage2 Gentile is used by Christians and Mormons (Offshoot cult of quasi-Christianity)
So saying his name is illegal in the Legion... but when Caesar is telling the history of the Legion, he says the name about twice... dafuq?
Caesar makes the rules, he probably just deemed it fit to say his name.
That's different.
Caesar is above any law
Alex FRD He'll talk about Joshua as relevant to the Legion's history. However, Ceasar will get testy if you keep bringing Joshua up.
If anyone is lenient about the laws and customs of the Legion it's Caesar. "No technology because that makes men weak" motto, while he still has an autodock in the back of his tent.
Anyone else feel like Jeff Bridges or Josh Brolin would play a good Chief Hanlon in a Fallout NV Movie?
Why not Kris Kristofferson who is the voice actor and upon whose appearance Chief Hanlon is based, if you haven't modded the game as much as Ox has.
Or Ron Pearlman.
6:34 I'm laughing so hard at how he calls the NCR "enseeyar".
24:36 Dammit, Oxhorn, you nearly gave me a heartattack, I was listening to this while playing Fallout 4 and I thought something on my computer had broken or unplugged itself.
"In such times as these, we can always turn to the lord, but it's good to have friends."
Graham is still one of the most interesting and poignant characters in a video game that I can recall in a long time.
Erandur is my favorite follower in Skyrim, and I find it really interesting that they have the same voice, because they have the same backstory. Joshua is a man of faith, changed from the cold, cruel man he once was. Erandur used to be a priest of a Daedric prince named Vaermina, prince of night terrors, but now is a priest of Mara, goddess of families.
I always liked Joshua he's a badass christian and I can respect that. " Love the sinner, hate the sin"
He seems to be a Mormon, but who knows how much those beliefs have changed in 200 or so years
Interesting. Joshua pronounces Caesar incorrectly, like most of the non-legionaries, despite having been apart of the Legion. I wonder if he does it out of spite?
Issun McGoodmage I noticed the same thing. I've never played Fallout but from what I've learned watching Oxhorn's videos Legionnaires pronounce Caesar as "Kay-zar" (which is the proper pronunciation from real history according to Oxhorn in his video on the Legion) while non-Legionnaires pronounce it "See-zer". Even Follows-Chalk pronounces it "Kay-zar" when one would think he learned the name from Joshua. My guess is when he renounced the Legion Joshua decided to start pronouncing Caesar as "See-zer".
Issun McGoodmage I think the pronunciation shows how much one respects Caesar
Daddy I Said Stop that is untrue.
Justin Ashman Actually it's true. When you take Kaiser meaning king in German it sounds closer to the Latin pronunciation of Caesar's name. However the Tsar or Czar meaning king in Russian is closer pronounced closer to the soft C. Either way works because the etymology of the word has branched outward.
Issun McGoodmage Joshua was burnt by command of caesar.So why would him pronounce his name correctly.
Just bought Honest Hearts yesterday and omg it is really amazing. I love this DLC so much!
pretty late tho but It's great.
Keep playing dude
Thất Bình Tôn Yeah I know I just didn't get into Fallout until just recently...but thanks :)
Yeah it is a good DLC, but i recomend the Lonesome Road that is the best EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cappy
I think it's my favorite. Utah is a great setting and it's really fun finding the hidden stories. Check the caves for caches and terminals if you want to find out!
I'd recommend playing all of the DLC's, they are gems in the gaming industry.
IMO, Dead Money is the best, but I'd recommend doing that DLC at a later level, like 20+.
The "Res" should be the "rez" the Navajo reservation, which is the largest Native American reservation in North America and is east of the Grand Canyon in Arizona. We get tons of tourists here from all over the world which would account for the German, and likely other linguistic influences too. The rez extends north into Utah and east into New Mexico.
There should be a mod where starting “trouble in Zion” spawns Graham to relentlessly pursue you across the Mohave. It doesn’t matter where you run, or where you try to hide, _The Burned Man will find you._
Also, make him one of the toughest enemies in the game.
That would be incredible.
"Res" or "Rez" is a short for "Indian Reservation" - as in "He grew up on the Rez".
Oxhorn, I can truly say I'm thankful for you and your channel. Not only for the face value of what you provide, but also the emotional throwbacks and memories from my own playthroughs. Especially with your F3 and FNV and ESPECIALLY the oldschool ones. I cant imagine how time consuming this all is and how much work, but seriously, thank you because what you provide is well worth it to all of us.
I live in Utah so I was just freaking out over really small things like the great salt lake being mentioned
I do to
43:36
You disconnected something. The sound confused me.
HeadOfBucket also at 24:41
The first time I played Honest Harts I accidentally immediately murdered Follows-Chalk.
Am i the only one who has a crush on Joshua? His voice gives me life 😭💖
Agreed. Voice actor did a great job and he had some fantastic lines.
Keith Szarabajka also voices Herschel Biggs in L.A. Noire, which is great since Oxhorn coveres that series as well.
Uhh the legate is too scary but Gram 1v1 is TERRIFY THE HELL OUT OF ME I DID THAT
It’s hella mesmerizing
U can Tell Joshua wasnt lying...."I will find you and god willing...u will not leave this valley" chills...man of his word.
"I survived because the fire inside burned brighter then the fire around me" badass af!!!! And I didn't know where the qoute came from until this video and i love it!!
12:43 Did he say dead legs? must be a new tribe
Finally I've found a comment about it I've been searching for like 20 minutes
Damn
@@DamageJackyl why didnt i think of that wow im dumber than a bighorners droppings
Joshua Graham such an admirable character,him alone with out even talking about Randal Clark (which him self deserve a video) makes honest hearts a great dlc.
23:51 I love the attention to detail that graham goes into that the Colt .45 was developed by “one of my tribe almost 400 years ago,” because one of the designers was John Moses Browning, was a member of the Latter Day Saints when we designed the M1911
Am I the only one who was proud/impressed to see Joshua Graham preaching the good news and checking 1911's?
Honest Hearts in my opinion is one of the most interesting DLC's as it gives lots of lore and information on what happened further East.
Dang, Bethesda/Obsidian layin’ down the Gospel somewhat accurately.
That’s such a rare thing in modern media.
Definitely dude makes me wonder do they have bibles or did they get destroyed when the bombs fell
@@VilaToro64 The Bible is the best-selling book in history, and you can generally find one in each home in America, and each hotel room. In fact, I think the Fallout series greatly underestimates the presence Christianity would likely have in post-nuclear America. Of course religions would continue to come and go, and old faiths would fracture, but the moment when a society is just beginning to get back on its feet and coalesce into something larger, like we see in Fallout 2 and New Vegas, is precisely when organized religions would become more socially important than they would be for tiny isolated tribes or huge continental governments.
Probably why it's my favorite piece of video game media ever.
Nice to see some respect for religion in the comments section.
I like how you narrate the dialogue options. It immersed me and really gave a strong sense of personality for your character; as in it really was your character talking.
“I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me”
That goes hard
If your Courier has a high enough Intelligence they can actually piece together the language the Dead Horse Disciple of Canaan greets you with when you enter Angel Cave, letting you can reply in kind.
What does she say and what you say in reply?
@@jacobridgeway2849 You basically tell her you mean no harm and she replies with something like "You know our tongue; smart outlander." It plays out the same from there but she seems a little less on edge.
The Dead Legs, the most ferocious tribe in the valley
Gotta love that quote 'I have been baptised twice, once in water, once in flame.'
I love how all of the DLC have subtle references to Ulysses from lonesome road, like when dr borous said another courier has visited the big mt in old world blues, and when Joshua graham said that you weren’t the courier he was expecting, and when Christine said she had met another courier in big mt during dead money.
Btw, the beds could either be You Gui or Bighorner hides, most likely Bighorner
You can find fish at Camp golf's Lake near New Vegas just so you know Oxhorn
BLOODHAVEN72 don't forget lake Mead with the rebreather
I love joshua’s pistol reloading animation its just soooo smooooth
Your videos are inspiring me to go back and play what is honestly my favorite fallout.
Being a devoted Christen is why I absolutely love joushua Graham him spreading the gospel or "the good news" translated from Latin (correct me if I'm wrong plz) that makes me happy that Jesus's love lasted the bombs
*Christian
HAHAHA You believe in a supernatural being!
AirCooledMan2006 sooo?
@@DarDarBinks1986 The natural couldn't create itself prior to its own existence, therefore the creation had to be supernatural
@@lionofthecherubim4486Complete bullshit. Your argument amounts to "I don't know; therefore, magic". Or "I don't know; therefore, aliens" if you're a $cientologi$t or Raëlian.
Oxhorn! This is my Favorite DLC ever! Being a Mormon myself I caught most of the references! I gotta say, the developers really and I mean really did their homework. Truly the perfect blend. Faith and Work. Joshua Graham puts it very simply and honestly. "But we Can't expect the Lord to do all of the work."
You dont have to believe in anything to just fall head over heels for such a great character.
Joshua Graham has the most badass outfit in all the New Vegas