i'm hoping the Swamp Thing movie will mark the return of fan-favourite characters Rodney and 'Guy who shouts Rodney' of Man-Thing fame. Maybe the events of The Flash can explain how they crossed over from the Marvel Universe to the DC Universe.
@@GuineaPigEveryday agree. I never ever saw an ad, not a single ad for the show. I can’t believe it honestly. And too hear it was well made such a shame man. Bad marketing can kill anything I guess.
The thing that's always bothered me about almost every superman portrayal is how they make him an aloof alien god. He can't connect with these mortals, and people either fear or revere him. Thats not who Clark Kent is. He's a farm boy from Kansas. He's friendly, outgoing, loving. A big galoot! "Bill" was wrong about superman being the guy and Clark being the costume. He was raised by the Kents. His flaw is probably that he is too human.
I maybe wrong because I'm not much of a fan of superheroes gernes but I used to dabble a little here and there. Afaik, isn't one of the reasons the friendship between Superman and Batman is so fascinating is that Superman (Clark) reminds Batman (Bruce) how to be a human again? Even as a superman, he is still Clark Kent, a farmboy from smallville; the only difference is that he carries himself with more confidence.
That scene in kill Bill would have been fine if he was talking about Batman, but Superman? No way! Someone completely doesn't understand who and what Clark is.
Always loved the face off between Midnighter and Prometheus. Both have predictive computers in their heads so they just stand and stare at each other until Prometheus’s head explodes from the effort of out predicting a person who can out predict you.
@@yourweirduncle I think it was from DC Vampires: All Out War. Specifically issue 4. Wasn’t the biggest fan of the vampires run, but it had fun moments. They’ve had other encounters though, like in the main Midnighter series.
I really like this way of showing you what they’re talking about without having a bunch of crazy editing. Makes it easier on the editing team while also being semi-entertaining for viewers that just want to hear what they have to say
@@darianturner7740 I’m a big time weekly wakadadoo since day one lol I just wanted to take a moment to appreciate the time and ideas that the editors do to make a fun audio ramble also visually interesting in a simplistic way, but always happy to meet a fellow gem-grabber!
It’s a good point that introducing Damian Wayne implies there’s already a Nightwing and Red Hood out there. While it’d be cool to see all of them introduced and built up one at a time, it’d get pretty repetitive seeing a new Robin introduced every other year in the movies. Especially with TWO separate Batman stories going on.
Going so deep into the origin of The Authority and not mentioning that the reason the previous team Stormwatch disbanded was because they all got massacred by xenomorphs in Wildcats/Aliens!
The video game tie in sounds like it’ll hinder creativity. What made Arkham special was that it was its own universe not beholden. Same with Insomniac and Spidey. I like that they have their own little corner going.
the amount of titles that are directly based on comic storylines and gunn’s devotion to making a variety of stories with different genres that aren’t concerned with becoming ultra connected team-ups makes me have more confidence in these announcements then like the next decade of MCU lineups also he’s adding robin, so already he has the best vision for Batman yet
Fuck yeah my mate, I've been wanting Robin back for the longest time. I'm bloody sick of people saying you can't put Robin in the movies, Robin brings Batman down or the likes of Snyder putting him in there but it's a dead Dick Grayson. Plus basing your new Batman on Grant Morrison's run is never a bad idea.
glad you posted this, there was so much in this weeks podcast that eventually it all just sort of washed over me without me really catching everything. Anyway you guys should have Michelle back sometime, she was an amazing guest. So fun!
I already listened to the podcast this week. You fucking GOT me with this excerpt vid. Congrats, I’m letting it play in the background with the sound off while I wash dishes, just in case there’s a house fire and then I can hear that and escape.
It took Amazon three years from announcing the development of the _Invincible_ animated show, eight episodes at roughly 45 minutes each. So, if Warner follows that model, you can extrapolate when exactly that _Creature Commandos_ thing was put into development. Invincible took 30 months for eight double episodes = 16 "normal" episodes. That's 7.5 weeks production time per episode. At six episodes - we will say they are regular length - that is a year of production, not counting development and time to greenlight and do all the contracts. Since it is the first one to hit in 2024, this thing had to have been written already at the very least in April/May last year. Which means it was a Suicide Squad spin-off all along.
@@illentertainment710 The power of Math(TM) and "I love Science" and all that shite. But honestly, the analytical faculty of the average successful Pop Culture TH-camr(TM) is amusingly depressive. Does not matter on which side of social or political issues they fall, when it comes to simple lateral logic... urgh
I thought James Gunn mentioned he was done writing it , so it would be casting and animation at this point. They already have the designs for the series from James Gunns presentation.
You were absolutely right: Gunn confirmed that Creature Commandos - AND Superman: Legacy - were in development some time before the DC Studios deal was struck.
mason failed to mention that inbetween stormwatch and the authority there's wildcats vs aliens, a rare example of a multi-publisher crossover that's actually canon (in wildstorm continuity at least). ellis wanted to create his own super-team to write stories for, so he contrived a way to thin out the old cast: have them encounter and be killed by xenomorphs. awesome!
Midnighter and Apollo has so much potential. I just remember one comic where they're having a dinner party and Midnighter struggles with his mind that was warped to always think of every potential way to kill a person when he sees them, and the guy at their party is just like....did you jus tlook at the fork and then to my neck? And he feels all bad about it, but Apollo doesn't give a shit because he's invulnerable so they're a perfect couple. I need them to be like Dennis and Mac from Always Sunny, but more dramatic, with powers, and actually a couple.
I just don't agree they should have just announced the Superman movie and nothing else, if Superman is a home run then you can hit the ground running on the rest of the universe, I feel they're leaning too much into 'content'
I also think this sounds really good. Hopefully we get to see most of it and it mostly turns out well. And I also agree it's great that Gunn is highlighting the comics and that he's digging a level or two down beyond the stories that everyone knows and has seen multiple times. Honestly, I'm probably most excited for Creature Commandos because I love animated superhero shows, and it seems like the kind of thing that is right in Gunn's wheelhouse. After that, I'm most interested in the Superman & The Authority story and the Supergirl story. Haven't read The Authority comics yet, but I read Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and it's really good.
If they commit to the true detective angle and make it a dark crime drama it could really be cool. Exploring other worldly Cthulhu like creatures and galaxy spanning conspiracies with murders and massacres I think it would be dope. It would explain why they’re so powerful and why it’s a big deal to have so much will etc
Hey you guys should put whoever did the edit in your description. They deserve the credit and I could also tell them I enjoy this little comique booque fill-in idea they've done here
That’s a good idea, normally in like a Caravan of Garbage they happen to mention the editor but it would be good to always just give credit, in the description at the very least
I honestly think Zack Snyder would be a great fit for The Authority. Where it’s big action and spectacle and heroes as gods, and is a bit darker compared to regular DC.
I will say, as a Tim drake fan and damian Wayne hater, his character has grown a lot these past nearly 20 years he’s existed(and regressed but that’s the nature of comics). He’s got a lot of depth underneath the annoying exterior and I would say he’s made a good mark as robin
Oooh, can't wait to see "Creature Commandos". And I remember my grandmother telling me 'No matter what they try to teach you in school, you remember: "Amanda Waller was blechk!"
With the news of swamp thing and how badly Keanu still wants to do a Constantine 2. I really think there is grounds for both a DCU Constantine in swamp thing and an elseworlds continuation of Keanu's. I love that brand of early 2000s gothic horror revival
I’m personally looking forward to seeing how these projects turn out. I have several DC comics that I’ve been meaning to read and this has me interested in finally getting around to reading them.
Personally? I have hope. This is the dude that made several C at best D most of the time characters into badass and well written/developed media. Maybe I'm biased tho bc Peacemaker is my favorite thing to come out of the DCEU
If Henry Cavill were to ever come back as Superman, I think Kingdom Come would be the perfect project to do that. It'd also be a great project to bring back a lot of old, familiar faces. But that's something that'd be best saved for a much later date.
I loved Cavill but I'm not too upset that he's not going to be Superman anymore, as long as they make good content for Superman and Batman, 2 of the most iconic heroes ever. I don't care who plays them, just give us good content please
I hope someday we get to see more characters on the Wonder Woman lore like Donna Troy, Cassandra Sandsmark, Artemis, Yara Flor and Hippolyta along with Evil characters like Giganta, Veronica Cale, Doctor Cyber, Devastation, Genocide and Grail.😎
I really think that DC is so strongly connected with the Golden Age and Silver Age of comics that they need to just use the $150 million budgets to make period pieces set in mid-century America. There's so much of American Exceptionalism that is connected to Mid-Century America and Golden/Silver Age comics. Also, it would feel nice after the Synder-verse to have Superman actually symbolize hope.
Every time I watch a new video I feel like it’s gonna be the one where James finally snaps and yells at Mason like he’s a little kid, leaving 20 minutes of James reading his script like he would like to and Mason holding back tears going “yah I suppose that’d be what would happen wouldn’t it”
I've always said that the grey and navy blue suit would work best, because *Fun Fact* navy blue does not reflect as much light as black. So, if Batman wanted to remain unseen, navy blue would work best
When The Batman came out DC put out a box set of "The Classic Graphic Novels That Inspired The Feature Film" with The Long Halloween, Batman: Ego and Batman: Year One. Obviously, those are much more well known comics - but I'd love to see both DC and Marvel continue to do similar things with their upcoming movies. I haven't read any of The Authority, so close to it's release re-print the omnibus and use it to advertise the film. Or give me a Superman Box Set with the stories that best inspire the new movie, etc.
If “Brave and the Bold” leads to Batwoman showing up and possibly getting a spin-off, I will definitely give it a chance. Also, I’m glad Swamp Thing, Hal Jordan, and Booster Gold are getting a spotlight, very much looking forward to Superman: Legacy, and hopefully, they do a good version of Midnighter.
As much as I enjoyed some of the DCEU's movies, yeah, it was an absolute mess. Killing Superman in the second movie he was in was never gonna go well. Having Batman be a murdering Bat-brander also didn't sit well. Superheroes shouldn't be THIS dark. Of course the counterargument is "But The Batman was super dark, and you liked that!" Ok, it was really good and dark. But it also had it's moments of "comedy". Batman saying "'thumb' drive" wasn't inherently funny, but seeing it in this context was. It also had an important message of how Bruce shouldn't be a symbol of vengeance anymore, but rather be a figure of hope for Gotham City. Snyder's Superman however, was dark just for the sake of being dark. Having Jon Kent say Clark should've let a bus full of kids was absolutely not the right move, and killing Zod is something I don't even have to discuss. The Snyderverse was too dark for the characters, and the rest of the DCEU suffered from it. One can only hope Gunn's DCU gets the characters right, and does them "Justice".
maso nearly killed me with the uncomfortable batsuit u can't pee in... "it circulates around the suit and it runs down your eyes"?!!!! pfaahahahahaahhaahaahaha... killed me!!
Leaving a Like in the hopes James Gunn can father in a good Superman movie. I just want to watch a good Superman movie, y'know? just a good one. Just the one will be fine
That Tokyo Mech suit... I'm trying to remember if that's the story I'm remembering. There's a guy whose main villain is some powerful wizard, and the reason they fight is, the wizard used time travel to go into the future after an apocalypse and liked the peace and quiet and turned this desolate wasteland into his lab, but then the good guy used time travel to prevent the apocalypse and it ruined all the wizard's stuff, so now he's fighting him to try and stop him from saving the world so he can have his quiet, peaceful desolate landscape back. Is that the same guy?
You Need to watch doom patrol!! it deserves so much more attention!! i adore it and I'm just so sad that they decided to cancel it... I'm gonna miss the team 💔
Gunn revealed so much content that I completely missed the Authority announcement. And honestly if anyone else was in charge of an Authority project I'd be instantly worried but James Gunn is one of the few people I can think of off the top of my head that could do this just. i.e super weird, vulgar,and of course a healthy amount of ultra violent. Also it's amazing how much time and money WB wasted before realizing "Hey maybe we should put someone in charge that's a capable filmmaker and has a really good understanding of this comic book stuff!?!"🤔 Lastly congratulations my Aussie friends bc the Flash trailer reveals were not only getting Affleck & Keaton Batman but also the cinematic debut of the Blue & Grey Batsuit!!!🎉🎊
love your commentary. this really looks like fun. he tried to find good COMICS. thats a great approach. suddenly im now excited for DC, even more than marvel, at least until i get good news about the FF.
interesting that nearly every superhero franchise makes their own versions of superman but not so much supergirl. also lots of justice league homages but not too many make their own versions of the avengers.
I think a part of that is that for a very very long time the avengers werent that big of a name in comics. When you look at the members if the team as well the biggest name on the team was probably either the thor or hulk with hulk leaving the team early in the run. They just didnt have the public image that the league had when you look at the main members of the league they're all DC's BIG names batman superman and wonder woman they had the star power that the avengers didnt.
I think his plan is sound, but the unavoidable problem is that this new DCU is entering a climate that's getting pretty superhero movie'd out after over a decade of the things. This DCU alone will have two Batman continuities (Patterson version in its own universe, and a new "standard" one) existing at the same time. I'm just saying, the biggest problem might not be how this new DCU is done, but the trying to win over a really fatigued audience outside of diehard DC fans. Not saying it's impossible, again I do like what I'm hearing about how he wants to do this DCU reboot but it's a huge elephant in the room I think. Having a "main" universe and "elseworld" installments is a fine solution but will most people care for the difference? It's ironic because that same fatigue I think people are having with the MCU also in theory gives this DCU reboot a huge opening as well, but question is whether or not that same fatigue will affect it too all the same. Of course, it'll come down to how individually good the movies are....like how The Batman pulled it off by just being its own superb movie, so I think an essential thing Gun is going to have to maneuver around is allowing the studio to get too eager and too hungry to shove movie interconnectivity into everyone's faces. The movies have to stand on their own more so than current MCU projects do imo.
"Oh yeah... Mason's here." 🤣 For the record, I need The GREEN, The Red, and The Black (Rot) before I hit my 80s FFS... Give me a decent Swamp Thing mythology!
i would like brainac in the superman movie, even though they talking about having an all star superman vibe, i still think brainac could work with and nice and lighthrearted superman and we could get somee cool figth scenes and an underated villian
If Ben Affleck does direct something, I think it should be a movie about The Question. Cos a weird, Grant Morrison-inspired Batman film with a lot of surreal elements isn't his style as a director. A Question film about high-level corruption, investigative press and inner city issues is much more his thing.
Weren’t the Authority an extremely 90’s take on the archetypes of the Justice League? How’s that going to work when both properties are part of the same cinematic universe?
They're also what the Elite were based off. This will lead to a Superman vs Authority instead of Elite film where the vigilantes are taking the law into their own hand.
I mean he wanted 3 justice league movies so this is wrong right of the bat. Man of steel,the suicide squad,Batman vs Superman,wonder woman, Aquaman,the batman movie and 3 justice league are more then 5 movies.
@@t0k3versehe didn’t understand the basic attributes of the characters he was using. His Superman was laughably bad with how godlike he was written, and his Batman was a pathetic attempt at just being edgy instead of smart.
Warner Brothers has the Wizarding World franchise. Harry Potter & the prequels. All together made £10 Billion & is the 4th highest grossing franchise ever.
Maybe. Just maybe it would be better focusing on 1 movie, making sure it's successful before making a universe around it? Because focusing on the sequels worked so well previously. Remember that Cyborg movie or when Batflek was meant to be in The Batman?
Don't know why your comparing 2 completely different visions. The first DC universe didn't fail because it was building a universe right of the bat. It failed because of bad writing,studio interference or an incomplete vision. Just because marvel didn't announce itd universe when making ironman doesn't mean it wasn't already setting a universe. Marvel literally did this.
@@cngotham4111 Do you not recall the amount of shit they cramped into BVS? Just the second movie they: - Had Batman vs Superman (poorly) - Introduced Batman - Introduced Lex Luther - Introduced Wonder Woman - Introduced Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg through cameos - Introduced Doomsday - Did The Death of Superman (Again. 2nd movie) - Set up Steppenwolf - Setting up Justice League through random shoehorned dream sequences and Flash going back in time - Set up Parademons All of that when the whole premise and advertisement was just for a Batman vs Superman movie
@@connorwood9211 ok did I says BvS was good or something? I said it has nothing to do with Gunns vision. Marvel succeeded while dceu failed hopefully the dcu succeeds
@@cngotham4111I think he’s questioning the idea that any “vision” for multiple films is troublesome. Why not focus on making a good movie and telling a good story, then expanding? Their current direction is like putting the cart before the horse
Assuming they're building off the recent Suicide Squad/Peacemaker stuff, it's not as if it will be a complete unknown quantity like Iron Man was before it came out. So they basically already have their good movie, and just need to continue making comparable projects.
Strange timeline for Batman and the Justice League, if Batman is already older it should probably exist but then why arent all the conflicts saved by them? Weird having Booster Gold after Blue Beetle, which needs Ted Kord to die, but Booster Gold needs the friendship with the 2nd blue Beetle. Id prefer having the Green Lantern space police be a space police rather then two guys doing detective stuff on earth. With Damian, Superman needs to be older too and have his own son for the Super Sons friendship. Wish it wasn't the same Aquaman, not really comic accurate or interesting. I remember the creature commandos from shorts on TH-cam, pretty fun lol. My Superman for the moment is the Superman and Lois show. It all could be done, but it will be frkn hard to pull off.
@@neonicon8500 Jason Momoa haș been saying after meetings that he's going to be someone else (probably lobo) but stay as aquaman, but idk how much he'll appear. Yeah there was one guy using a mystical beetle, his son took on the mantle but didnt trust the beetle so used tech and became best buds with Booster Gold, which is like a really cool friendship, and then he gets replaced by another guy that finds the beetle and discovers its alien tech. Most of what I know from the latest blue beetle is from Young Justice so maybe check out some scene compilations on him.
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 he said he will always be Aquaman. Which can easily be interpreted as there might be a new Aquaman but to him he is always going to be Aquaman in his heart of hearts. Dc also has said that no one is playing 2 characters at the same time.
I don't remember them saying anything about the lanterns being on earth being detectives lol. I believe they will be on earth,space and maybe other planets. Being detectives and finding future threats is also a part of the lanterns job so it makes sense. Who says we needs a supersons friendship lol.
@@cngotham4111 Usually the justice league happens before Damian, and supersons is quite an interesting part of Damians history so yes maybe theyll change things but im just wondering how they will adapt their ideas to the universe and what they'll have to change, how they'll tell the stories they want and keep it dc. Gunn did say "terrestrial based" and "almost like true detective" in the video announcement also interesting about aquaman
I want the DCU to be successful, but I feel people will get revisionists history about the MCU. While the MCU isn’t perfect, it’s the first successful cinematic universe and the DCU got to learn from their mistakes. First through the door, bloodied and bruised. Second through the door, it’s all been done before.
Yeah but Hollywood currently lacks originality. MCU was successful and they want to manufacture that success again. So DC is probably going to copy or go the same route (but they're a few years too late). It would be nice if they come up with something different to counter the superhero fatigue.
@@mahogara i think DC knows that and thats why they start with...well unique stuff MCU currently dont do; monster group (Creature Commandos, political thriller (Waller), radical heroes (The Authority), procedural space cop (Lanterns), Father and son dynamic (Brave and the Bold), and to cap it a straight horror movie (Swamp Thing).
Superman's gonna be a big, nice guy from Kansas who doesn't wanna kill or hurt anyone and just wants to do good. I could cry. I love Henry as much as the next guy, but Zach or whoever was in charge of writing the character botched it so hard. Supes isn't an overly complicated character, but he's a really good one, and there's a reason that he's stood the test of time as well as he has. Looking forward to seeing what they have in store for him. And all of these other projects, too. Space cop Green Lanterns? Supergirl space road trip? More Swamp Thing and maybe Rodney shouting guy? I'm more optimistic about DC live action movies than I ever expected to be.
they didn't botch anything. Its 2023 not 1977...Boyscout Superman stopped existing decades ago because that character is boring....I know alot of "special" people want to suck off Christoper Reeve Superman but boyscout Superman is a god awful character and leaves you nowhere to go in film or animation format, its a character that doesn't evolve or grow. And people need to stop farting out the Superman doesn't kill and Batman doesn't use guns that literally came from 90s cartoons and only the cartoons.
@@lutherheggs451 sounds like you just don’t like the character Superman. If you don’t like the character that’s fine, but don’t say that they need to change. There’s a difference between modernizing and changing a character. The dark knight modernized Batman and he still used no guns/didn’t murder
![[UNCUT] “บอสณวัฒน์” ลากไส้!! ใครหนุนหลัง "แม่ตั๊ก ป๋าเบียร์" I คนดังนั่งเคลียร์ I 30 ก.ย. 67](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QlD7mU2KKRk/mqdefault.jpg)
More like bloody Mr Tuesdayyyy movies am I right? Got him
OUUUUUCHHHH!!!!!!!
OOOOOHH (Vin Diesel)
Fuckin wrecked!
Good one Harry you got ‘em !!
Fuckin hell that's funny
i'm hoping the Swamp Thing movie will mark the return of fan-favourite characters Rodney and 'Guy who shouts Rodney' of Man-Thing fame. Maybe the events of The Flash can explain how they crossed over from the Marvel Universe to the DC Universe.
what?
Rodney isn't the fan-favourite! The guy who yells "Rodney!" is the fan-favourite. Nobody cares about Rodney!
@@AnnDVine Rodney deserves more respect, without him Guy Who Yells Rodney would just be Guy
RODNEEEEEY *gurgling*
@@AnnDVine but without a Rodney, how can we have "Man yelling for Rodney"? Unless he's like Maris, or Godot
There really needs to be Condiment King movie in the style of The Menu.
No bread. Just condiments.
don't give them any ideas. they will do it
It would be great to see Rob Pattinson’s Batman face off against the Condiment King himself.
i really want a condiment king movie where he's posing on the poster and the tagline is "hold the mayo"
I’m happy they’re going to try to bring back Swamp Thing. Such a cool hero, and that series been cancelled was such a let down
Never watched the show but heard it was pretty good and sorely missed by those who did watch
yeah that show was already like a James gunn comic accurate take, home some of the people who worked on it get to come back
You got em
I heard it was good too, and it wasnt even that long ago but just went completely under the radar and no one has talked about it since it seems
@@GuineaPigEveryday agree. I never ever saw an ad, not a single ad for the show. I can’t believe it honestly. And too hear it was well made such a shame man. Bad marketing can kill anything I guess.
The thing that's always bothered me about almost every superman portrayal is how they make him an aloof alien god. He can't connect with these mortals, and people either fear or revere him.
Thats not who Clark Kent is. He's a farm boy from Kansas. He's friendly, outgoing, loving. A big galoot!
"Bill" was wrong about superman being the guy and Clark being the costume. He was raised by the Kents. His flaw is probably that he is too human.
Indeed. Clark is so wholesome even corn fed 1930’s Kansas homestead types think he’s a little bit square. 😊
I maybe wrong because I'm not much of a fan of superheroes gernes but I used to dabble a little here and there. Afaik, isn't one of the reasons the friendship between Superman and Batman is so fascinating is that Superman (Clark) reminds Batman (Bruce) how to be a human again? Even as a superman, he is still Clark Kent, a farmboy from smallville; the only difference is that he carries himself with more confidence.
That scene in kill Bill would have been fine if he was talking about Batman, but Superman? No way! Someone completely doesn't understand who and what Clark is.
Who cares. Superman isn't that cool. Tim Drake is so cool. In fact there's a Superman Animated Series episode where Superman teams with Tim.
I think Smallville did this really well 😊
Always loved the face off between Midnighter and Prometheus.
Both have predictive computers in their heads so they just stand and stare at each other until Prometheus’s head explodes from the effort of out predicting a person who can out predict you.
What issue or run was this? I’d love to check it out, the only exposure I’ve had to The Authority was from Futures End
@@yourweirduncle I think it was from DC Vampires: All Out War. Specifically issue 4. Wasn’t the biggest fan of the vampires run, but it had fun moments.
They’ve had other encounters though, like in the main Midnighter series.
I really like this way of showing you what they’re talking about without having a bunch of crazy editing. Makes it easier on the editing team while also being semi-entertaining for viewers that just want to hear what they have to say
I definitely recommend the podcast if you enjoy this style of content. They're always fantastic
@@darianturner7740 I’m a big time weekly wakadadoo since day one lol I just wanted to take a moment to appreciate the time and ideas that the editors do to make a fun audio ramble also visually interesting in a simplistic way, but always happy to meet a fellow gem-grabber!
It’s a good point that introducing Damian Wayne implies there’s already a Nightwing and Red Hood out there. While it’d be cool to see all of them introduced and built up one at a time, it’d get pretty repetitive seeing a new Robin introduced every other year in the movies. Especially with TWO separate Batman stories going on.
Going so deep into the origin of The Authority and not mentioning that the reason the previous team Stormwatch disbanded was because they all got massacred by xenomorphs in Wildcats/Aliens!
The video game tie in sounds like it’ll hinder creativity. What made Arkham special was that it was its own universe not beholden. Same with Insomniac and Spidey. I like that they have their own little corner going.
But he did say they were keeping DC Elseworlds so I have no doubt they’ll be very open to DC games I’m their own universes as well
the amount of titles that are directly based on comic storylines and gunn’s devotion to making a variety of stories with different genres that aren’t concerned with becoming ultra connected team-ups makes me have more confidence in these announcements then like the next decade of MCU lineups
also he’s adding robin, so already he has the best vision for Batman yet
Fuck yeah my mate, I've been wanting Robin back for the longest time. I'm bloody sick of people saying you can't put Robin in the movies, Robin brings Batman down or the likes of Snyder putting him in there but it's a dead Dick Grayson. Plus basing your new Batman on Grant Morrison's run is never a bad idea.
I'd like to see a movie change my mind about live action robins.
Can we all agree that the quality of this video is excellent? I’m so blown away by the near perfection that is this video.
glad you posted this, there was so much in this weeks podcast that eventually it all just sort of washed over me without me really catching everything. Anyway you guys should have Michelle back sometime, she was an amazing guest. So fun!
She’s one of the boys!
I already listened to the podcast this week. You fucking GOT me with this excerpt vid. Congrats, I’m letting it play in the background with the sound off while I wash dishes, just in case there’s a house fire and then I can hear that and escape.
It took Amazon three years from announcing the development of the _Invincible_ animated show, eight episodes at roughly 45 minutes each. So, if Warner follows that model, you can extrapolate when exactly that _Creature Commandos_ thing was put into development. Invincible took 30 months for eight double episodes = 16 "normal" episodes. That's 7.5 weeks production time per episode. At six episodes - we will say they are regular length - that is a year of production, not counting development and time to greenlight and do all the contracts. Since it is the first one to hit in 2024, this thing had to have been written already at the very least in April/May last year. Which means it was a Suicide Squad spin-off all along.
Was thinking the same thing especially since it's the 1st Project Dropping
@@illentertainment710 The power of Math(TM) and "I love Science" and all that shite. But honestly, the analytical faculty of the average successful Pop Culture TH-camr(TM) is amusingly depressive. Does not matter on which side of social or political issues they fall, when it comes to simple lateral logic... urgh
I’m so glad this comment didn’t end with some kind of Blue Harvest reference. It kind of felt like it was going that way for a bit there.
I thought James Gunn mentioned he was done writing it , so it would be casting and animation at this point.
They already have the designs for the series from James Gunns presentation.
You were absolutely right: Gunn confirmed that Creature Commandos - AND Superman: Legacy - were in development some time before the DC Studios deal was struck.
mason failed to mention that inbetween stormwatch and the authority there's wildcats vs aliens, a rare example of a multi-publisher crossover that's actually canon (in wildstorm continuity at least). ellis wanted to create his own super-team to write stories for, so he contrived a way to thin out the old cast: have them encounter and be killed by xenomorphs. awesome!
Midnighter and Apollo has so much potential. I just remember one comic where they're having a dinner party and Midnighter struggles with his mind that was warped to always think of every potential way to kill a person when he sees them, and the guy at their party is just like....did you jus tlook at the fork and then to my neck? And he feels all bad about it, but Apollo doesn't give a shit because he's invulnerable so they're a perfect couple. I need them to be like Dennis and Mac from Always Sunny, but more dramatic, with powers, and actually a couple.
I still don't believe Snyder fans actually exist. I've seen those movies.
People also voted for Trump, so....😂
@@bigbaddwolf90 the parallel is coincidentally incredibly strong
Super excited for this lineup, it has such variety, literally something for everyone
I just don't agree they should have just announced the Superman movie and nothing else, if Superman is a home run then you can hit the ground running on the rest of the universe, I feel they're leaning too much into 'content'
I also think this sounds really good. Hopefully we get to see most of it and it mostly turns out well. And I also agree it's great that Gunn is highlighting the comics and that he's digging a level or two down beyond the stories that everyone knows and has seen multiple times. Honestly, I'm probably most excited for Creature Commandos because I love animated superhero shows, and it seems like the kind of thing that is right in Gunn's wheelhouse. After that, I'm most interested in the Superman & The Authority story and the Supergirl story. Haven't read The Authority comics yet, but I read Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, and it's really good.
If they commit to the true detective angle and make it a dark crime drama it could really be cool. Exploring other worldly Cthulhu like creatures and galaxy spanning conspiracies with murders and massacres I think it would be dope. It would explain why they’re so powerful and why it’s a big deal to have so much will etc
Hey you guys should put whoever did the edit in your description. They deserve the credit and I could also tell them I enjoy this little comique booque fill-in idea they've done here
That’s a good idea, normally in like a Caravan of Garbage they happen to mention the editor but it would be good to always just give credit, in the description at the very least
I think they've said when no-one is credited it's James who edits but may be mistaken
I love Suprmn and Batmn.
I honestly think Zack Snyder would be a great fit for The Authority. Where it’s big action and spectacle and heroes as gods, and is a bit darker compared to regular DC.
I don't think it'll be dark. I think it'll be sort of like The Suicide Squad but maybe toned down comedy
@@volkoveditsmaybe more like the boys, since a lot of people call the authority the the boys of dc
I hope that Mr Gun’s movies are more enjoyable than the DCEU movies we ended up getting. DC has many interesting characters.
His name is Gunn and he was part of the DCEU.
I will say, as a Tim drake fan and damian Wayne hater, his character has grown a lot these past nearly 20 years he’s existed(and regressed but that’s the nature of comics). He’s got a lot of depth underneath the annoying exterior and I would say he’s made a good mark as robin
43:30 You let one normal “Batman” slip through right at the end!
Could we just please get a quality Green Lantern movie? Gunn is a perfect fit to direct.
So long as he doesn't cast Chris Pratt as Hal Jordan, I'm on board!
@@somerandolad I'm with you on that one!
lore is big tv show is better
Oooh, can't wait to see "Creature Commandos". And I remember my grandmother telling me 'No matter what they try to teach you in school, you remember: "Amanda Waller was blechk!"
15:44
"They are essentially space cops"
It's confirmed! Rich Evans is going to be in the Green Lantern movie!
Billionaire playboy philanthropist Rich Evans?
@@SirDuncan13 Yes!
The same Rich Evans who was on the Ellen Show.
@@SirDuncan13he must be wealthy… how else could he afford the vhs machine and all associated repairs
I have faith that James and Peter will bring hope to the DC brand once again with this new movie universe, and 8-10 year plan they have
I’ve read more comics in the last week than I had the past year. Gunn definitely helping the comic industry.
With the news of swamp thing and how badly Keanu still wants to do a Constantine 2. I really think there is grounds for both a DCU Constantine in swamp thing and an elseworlds continuation of Keanu's. I love that brand of early 2000s gothic horror revival
Your eyes. Give them to me.
I hope so, Keanu Constantine was a fun movie if you ignore the actual English Constantine character.
Elseworlds
I’m personally looking forward to seeing how these projects turn out. I have several DC comics that I’ve been meaning to read and this has me interested in finally getting around to reading them.
Y’all should make a podcast
Personally? I have hope. This is the dude that made several C at best D most of the time characters into badass and well written/developed media. Maybe I'm biased tho bc Peacemaker is my favorite thing to come out of the DCEU
seriously at this point i dont know why i watch you guys
idc about this
i just love listening to you guys
I’m just glad DC movies actually have a future
If Henry Cavill were to ever come back as Superman, I think Kingdom Come would be the perfect project to do that. It'd also be a great project to bring back a lot of old, familiar faces. But that's something that'd be best saved for a much later date.
I think his Superman would honesty work even better as The Red Son one so I’m totally down, great idea
@@afrothunder1082 Another great choice, good call.
I think Damian HAS to be a kid, because if he's 15 its like "C'mon man stop it" but as a kid its genuinely more "Let me teach you to be better"
At that point you should make him Jason Todd but I guess the general public knows he eventually dies like Bruce parents.
Very nicely tied up and I appreciate the explanation of the characters and storylines cause I was pretty confused after the Gunn video tbh
I loved Cavill but I'm not too upset that he's not going to be Superman anymore, as long as they make good content for Superman and Batman, 2 of the most iconic heroes ever. I don't care who plays them, just give us good content please
I hope someday we get to see more characters on the Wonder Woman lore like Donna Troy, Cassandra Sandsmark, Artemis, Yara Flor and Hippolyta along with Evil characters like Giganta, Veronica Cale, Doctor Cyber, Devastation, Genocide and Grail.😎
I think out of all of these besides the main two (super man and batman) I’m most excited to see what happens with booster gold
I really think that DC is so strongly connected with the Golden Age and Silver Age of comics that they need to just use the $150 million budgets to make period pieces set in mid-century America.
There's so much of American Exceptionalism that is connected to Mid-Century America and Golden/Silver Age comics. Also, it would feel nice after the Synder-verse to have Superman actually symbolize hope.
Can’t wait to see The Doctor in a movie. His powers would make for some incredible visuals.
Excited for Swamp thing the most!
Every time I watch a new video I feel like it’s gonna be the one where James finally snaps and yells at Mason like he’s a little kid, leaving 20 minutes of James reading his script like he would like to and Mason holding back tears going “yah I suppose that’d be what would happen wouldn’t it”
I've always said that the grey and navy blue suit would work best, because *Fun Fact* navy blue does not reflect as much light as black. So, if Batman wanted to remain unseen, navy blue would work best
When The Batman came out DC put out a box set of "The Classic Graphic Novels That Inspired The Feature Film" with The Long Halloween, Batman: Ego and Batman: Year One.
Obviously, those are much more well known comics - but I'd love to see both DC and Marvel continue to do similar things with their upcoming movies.
I haven't read any of The Authority, so close to it's release re-print the omnibus and use it to advertise the film. Or give me a Superman Box Set with the stories that best inspire the new movie, etc.
6:48 hey guys. Just wanted to say you’re super underrated and I love the videos. Much love from Louisiana, USA
Very much appreciated mate thanks for the kind words!
If “Brave and the Bold” leads to Batwoman showing up and possibly getting a spin-off, I will definitely give it a chance. Also, I’m glad Swamp Thing, Hal Jordan, and Booster Gold are getting a spotlight, very much looking forward to Superman: Legacy, and hopefully, they do a good version of Midnighter.
Why would it lead to batwoman
A comic accurate Batwoman project would be cool after the last attempt
@@DAEDAEANT waste of a project. Rather see nightwing Redhood or anyone else
As much as I enjoyed some of the DCEU's movies, yeah, it was an absolute mess. Killing Superman in the second movie he was in was never gonna go well. Having Batman be a murdering Bat-brander also didn't sit well. Superheroes shouldn't be THIS dark. Of course the counterargument is "But The Batman was super dark, and you liked that!" Ok, it was really good and dark. But it also had it's moments of "comedy". Batman saying "'thumb' drive" wasn't inherently funny, but seeing it in this context was. It also had an important message of how Bruce shouldn't be a symbol of vengeance anymore, but rather be a figure of hope for Gotham City. Snyder's Superman however, was dark just for the sake of being dark. Having Jon Kent say Clark should've let a bus full of kids was absolutely not the right move, and killing Zod is something I don't even have to discuss. The Snyderverse was too dark for the characters, and the rest of the DCEU suffered from it. One can only hope Gunn's DCU gets the characters right, and does them "Justice".
maso nearly killed me with the uncomfortable batsuit u can't pee in... "it circulates around the suit and it runs down your eyes"?!!!! pfaahahahahaahhaahaahaha... killed me!!
Swamp Thing, you make my heart sing...
Hit Girl is exactly how they should do Damien. A small kid who kills with ninja skills.
Oh man, a comic book accurate Supergirl would be awesome. A real warrior of Krypton type.
If Batgirl was made for the small screen, why not release it to streaming services?
I have to say that your Interstellar ending explained video is really good which was uploaded 8 years ago
Leaving a Like in the hopes James Gunn can father in a good Superman movie. I just want to watch a good Superman movie, y'know? just a good one. Just the one will be fine
That Tokyo Mech suit... I'm trying to remember if that's the story I'm remembering. There's a guy whose main villain is some powerful wizard, and the reason they fight is, the wizard used time travel to go into the future after an apocalypse and liked the peace and quiet and turned this desolate wasteland into his lab, but then the good guy used time travel to prevent the apocalypse and it ruined all the wizard's stuff, so now he's fighting him to try and stop him from saving the world so he can have his quiet, peaceful desolate landscape back. Is that the same guy?
You Need to watch doom patrol!! it deserves so much more attention!! i adore it and I'm just so sad that they decided to cancel it... I'm gonna miss the team 💔
I really hope Nightwing somehow gets a standalone. I'm probably the only one tbh haha
Now we are two.
@@stickhrk now we are three
Gunn revealed so much content that I completely missed the Authority announcement. And honestly if anyone else was in charge of an Authority project I'd be instantly worried but James Gunn is one of the few people I can think of off the top of my head that could do this just. i.e super weird, vulgar,and of course a healthy amount of ultra violent.
Also it's amazing how much time and money WB wasted before realizing "Hey maybe we should put someone in charge that's a capable filmmaker and has a really good understanding of this comic book stuff!?!"🤔
Lastly congratulations my Aussie friends bc the Flash trailer reveals were not only getting Affleck & Keaton Batman but also the cinematic debut of the Blue & Grey Batsuit!!!🎉🎊
love your commentary. this really looks like fun. he tried to find good COMICS. thats a great approach. suddenly im now excited for DC, even more than marvel, at least until i get good news about the FF.
interesting that nearly every superhero franchise makes their own versions of superman but not so much supergirl. also lots of justice league homages but not too many make their own versions of the avengers.
I think a part of that is that for a very very long time the avengers werent that big of a name in comics. When you look at the members if the team as well the biggest name on the team was probably either the thor or hulk with hulk leaving the team early in the run. They just didnt have the public image that the league had when you look at the main members of the league they're all DC's BIG names batman superman and wonder woman they had the star power that the avengers didnt.
@@rahmodin9209 all good points
I think his plan is sound, but the unavoidable problem is that this new DCU is entering a climate that's getting pretty superhero movie'd out after over a decade of the things. This DCU alone will have two Batman continuities (Patterson version in its own universe, and a new "standard" one) existing at the same time.
I'm just saying, the biggest problem might not be how this new DCU is done, but the trying to win over a really fatigued audience outside of diehard DC fans. Not saying it's impossible, again I do like what I'm hearing about how he wants to do this DCU reboot but it's a huge elephant in the room I think. Having a "main" universe and "elseworld" installments is a fine solution but will most people care for the difference?
It's ironic because that same fatigue I think people are having with the MCU also in theory gives this DCU reboot a huge opening as well, but question is whether or not that same fatigue will affect it too all the same. Of course, it'll come down to how individually good the movies are....like how The Batman pulled it off by just being its own superb movie, so I think an essential thing Gun is going to have to maneuver around is allowing the studio to get too eager and too hungry to shove movie interconnectivity into everyone's faces. The movies have to stand on their own more so than current MCU projects do imo.
I have called Robert Pattinson Robat-Bat-In-Bat nonstop since you dropped that back when. Love it
"Oh yeah... Mason's here." 🤣
For the record, I need The GREEN, The Red, and The Black (Rot) before I hit my 80s FFS... Give me a decent Swamp Thing mythology!
i would like brainac in the superman movie, even though they talking about having an all star superman vibe, i still think brainac could work with and nice and lighthrearted superman and we could get somee cool figth scenes and an underated villian
I actually turned off the audio and just watched the screen for this one, think this kinda humor is best heard visually.
Glenn Howerton for Booster Gold
If Ben Affleck does direct something, I think it should be a movie about The Question.
Cos a weird, Grant Morrison-inspired Batman film with a lot of surreal elements isn't his style as a director. A Question film about high-level corruption, investigative press and inner city issues is much more his thing.
i hadnt thought much about it....but mamoa wouldve been a great lobo :P
Wish these guys had a podcast
You should have played the Rodney clip while talking about Swamp Thing! 🤣
So happy to see snyder fans aren’t blasting the comments
Weren’t the Authority an extremely 90’s take on the archetypes of the Justice League? How’s that going to work when both properties are part of the same cinematic universe?
They're also what the Elite were based off. This will lead to a Superman vs Authority instead of Elite film where the vigilantes are taking the law into their own hand.
Superman rules!
You've gotta remember Zack was never wanting a long running universe. He had a 5 movie plan with a few solo films scattered between.
And he completely fecked that up. Glad Gunn is taking the reins.
@@ochayethenoowhoa buddy don’t let the synder verse fans hear you. Allegedly the synder verse is amazing
@ochayethenoo did he though? Seems it was more the Studio as they couldn't stick to their own slate.
I mean he wanted 3 justice league movies so this is wrong right of the bat. Man of steel,the suicide squad,Batman vs Superman,wonder woman, Aquaman,the batman movie and 3 justice league are more then 5 movies.
@@t0k3versehe didn’t understand the basic attributes of the characters he was using. His Superman was laughably bad with how godlike he was written, and his Batman was a pathetic attempt at just being edgy instead of smart.
Man these guys will say anything!
My New Year’s resolution is to give these videos a like as soon as I’m told to.
can't wait for Fablemens: End Game
Warner Brothers has the Wizarding World franchise. Harry Potter & the prequels. All together made £10 Billion & is the 4th highest grossing franchise ever.
Can't wait for Batfleck to say "Alfred, I need some Dunkin"
I realize how much editing elevates your videos. Wish there was a bit more editing in this
None of these have me excited but maybe the trailers will have me hyped.
I love the guy who sounds attractive!
I’ll leave you to decide which one that is.
Honestly happy to see a live action Robin after decades
You seem to not have heard when James Gunn said "terrestrial based" for the Green Lantern show
Y’all should see and talk about the speed racer movie
Maybe. Just maybe it would be better focusing on 1 movie, making sure it's successful before making a universe around it? Because focusing on the sequels worked so well previously. Remember that Cyborg movie or when Batflek was meant to be in The Batman?
Don't know why your comparing 2 completely different visions. The first DC universe didn't fail because it was building a universe right of the bat. It failed because of bad writing,studio interference or an incomplete vision. Just because marvel didn't announce itd universe when making ironman doesn't mean it wasn't already setting a universe. Marvel literally did this.
@@cngotham4111 Do you not recall the amount of shit they cramped into BVS? Just the second movie they:
- Had Batman vs Superman (poorly)
- Introduced Batman
- Introduced Lex Luther
- Introduced Wonder Woman
- Introduced Aquaman, Flash, Cyborg through cameos
- Introduced Doomsday
- Did The Death of Superman (Again. 2nd movie)
- Set up Steppenwolf
- Setting up Justice League through random shoehorned dream sequences and Flash going back in time
- Set up Parademons
All of that when the whole premise and advertisement was just for a Batman vs Superman movie
@@connorwood9211 ok did I says BvS was good or something? I said it has nothing to do with Gunns vision. Marvel succeeded while dceu failed hopefully the dcu succeeds
@@cngotham4111I think he’s questioning the idea that any “vision” for multiple films is troublesome. Why not focus on making a good movie and telling a good story, then expanding? Their current direction is like putting the cart before the horse
Assuming they're building off the recent Suicide Squad/Peacemaker stuff, it's not as if it will be a complete unknown quantity like Iron Man was before it came out. So they basically already have their good movie, and just need to continue making comparable projects.
Strange timeline for Batman and the Justice League, if Batman is already older it should probably exist but then why arent all the conflicts saved by them? Weird having Booster Gold after Blue Beetle, which needs Ted Kord to die, but Booster Gold needs the friendship with the 2nd blue Beetle. Id prefer having the Green Lantern space police be a space police rather then two guys doing detective stuff on earth. With Damian, Superman needs to be older too and have his own son for the Super Sons friendship. Wish it wasn't the same Aquaman, not really comic accurate or interesting. I remember the creature commandos from shorts on TH-cam, pretty fun lol. My Superman for the moment is the Superman and Lois show. It all could be done, but it will be frkn hard to pull off.
@@neonicon8500 Jason Momoa haș been saying after meetings that he's going to be someone else (probably lobo) but stay as aquaman, but idk how much he'll appear. Yeah there was one guy using a mystical beetle, his son took on the mantle but didnt trust the beetle so used tech and became best buds with Booster Gold, which is like a really cool friendship, and then he gets replaced by another guy that finds the beetle and discovers its alien tech. Most of what I know from the latest blue beetle is from Young Justice so maybe check out some scene compilations on him.
@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 he said he will always be Aquaman. Which can easily be interpreted as there might be a new Aquaman but to him he is always going to be Aquaman in his heart of hearts. Dc also has said that no one is playing 2 characters at the same time.
I don't remember them saying anything about the lanterns being on earth being detectives lol. I believe they will be on earth,space and maybe other planets. Being detectives and finding future threats is also a part of the lanterns job so it makes sense. Who says we needs a supersons friendship lol.
And batman being older doesn't mean the justice league exist we don't know if the team will be made or already exist In this timeline.
@@cngotham4111 Usually the justice league happens before Damian, and supersons is quite an interesting part of Damians history so yes maybe theyll change things but im just wondering how they will adapt their ideas to the universe and what they'll have to change, how they'll tell the stories they want and keep it dc.
Gunn did say "terrestrial based" and "almost like true detective" in the video announcement
also interesting about aquaman
Cool! An abnormal TH-cam video!
The anthropologist in me is very interested in that prequel.
I want the DCU to be successful, but I feel people will get revisionists history about the MCU. While the MCU isn’t perfect, it’s the first successful cinematic universe and the DCU got to learn from their mistakes. First through the door, bloodied and bruised. Second through the door, it’s all been done before.
Yeah but Hollywood currently lacks originality. MCU was successful and they want to manufacture that success again. So DC is probably going to copy or go the same route (but they're a few years too late). It would be nice if they come up with something different to counter the superhero fatigue.
@@mahogara i think DC knows that and thats why they start with...well unique stuff MCU currently dont do; monster group (Creature Commandos, political thriller (Waller), radical heroes (The Authority), procedural space cop (Lanterns), Father and son dynamic (Brave and the Bold), and to cap it a straight horror movie (Swamp Thing).
Hey DC doing well can only make both studios work harder to compete.
Gunn's MCU movies actually have rewatch value, unlike a lot of other comic book movies.
The Authority is the one I’m most excited for, just because of how bat shit crazy is!
Superman's gonna be a big, nice guy from Kansas who doesn't wanna kill or hurt anyone and just wants to do good.
I could cry. I love Henry as much as the next guy, but Zach or whoever was in charge of writing the character botched it so hard.
Supes isn't an overly complicated character, but he's a really good one, and there's a reason that he's stood the test of time as well as he has. Looking forward to seeing what they have in store for him. And all of these other projects, too. Space cop Green Lanterns? Supergirl space road trip? More Swamp Thing and maybe Rodney shouting guy? I'm more optimistic about DC live action movies than I ever expected to be.
they didn't botch anything. Its 2023 not 1977...Boyscout Superman stopped existing decades ago because that character is boring....I know alot of "special" people want to suck off Christoper Reeve Superman but boyscout Superman is a god awful character and leaves you nowhere to go in film or animation format, its a character that doesn't evolve or grow. And people need to stop farting out the Superman doesn't kill and Batman doesn't use guns that literally came from 90s cartoons and only the cartoons.
@@lutherheggs451 sounds like you just don’t like the character Superman. If you don’t like the character that’s fine, but don’t say that they need to change. There’s a difference between modernizing and changing a character. The dark knight modernized Batman and he still used no guns/didn’t murder
I would love a scene where the God of Cities explains his origin verbatim how Mason does it here.