@@ngauruhoezodiac3143aluminium head bigblock don't weigh much more than a SBC. And the power they make more than pulls the weight. Bigblocks have always been king shit on the street since they were invented. They originally were designed to take no prisoners in NASCAR racing. So they were a racing engine first, pass car engine later. Then big trucks got them. Notice they didn't put LS engines in 18,000lb RVs, but they did get bigblocks. Ain't no comparison to those who think logical.
I’m 60 years old and I have 5 big blocks and one LS. I agree with this video. My 84 model is very reliable. Sounds great too. Just something about that rumble.
How hard was it. I have a 98 2.2l s10 with rod knock. I wanted a v8 in it since I owned it. I love old school stuff. I own a big block 4x4 truck and that thing kicks ass. But i want a daily with a good amount of pep and about 20mpg or more. I was gonna do a 350 or 4.8l truck motor. Always joked about throwing a 454 in it and saying screw the daily. But I've heard its way hard to swap a 454 than the other are.
I'm just a home wrencher, I have a 350, 454 and 494 in my toy shed. I pay zero to professionals. I like it because I can do everything myself and make silly power
The LS only shines in stock form with a single turbo, making 600hp up to maybe 1000hp on a stock engine, once you have to modify the engine to handle more power the LS no longer has any advantage, the truth is that any high hp engine now days is aftermarket block and heads, with all aftermarket internal parts, so at what point does the stock or lightly modified engine hold up to, but once fully modified it comes down to personally what you like, not what makes more power
I agree but once it is all aftermarket is it a Chevy. Ford or Chrysler??? The basic design is there but nothing is from the factory. Thanks for watching!
Yep, basically if you have a big block build it or if you have a LS build it. But hard to beat a LS when it comes to size they fit in everything haha. And hard to beat LS efi, from what I've heard EFI systems for old school motors takes a lot of work to make run right. Have 2 friends that tried it but ended just throwing a carb back on.
@@henrywal an 5.3L with opened up ring gap, open the second ring more than the first, maybe as much as double, I heard a guy say he does.125 and sees no ill effect, he said you will notice when you get peak power it doesn't fall off as if when you have extra gap on the second, otherwise good head gaskets and maybe a camshaft and valve spring for more RPM, and let it rip, bone stockish with a GT45 TURBO from ebay, enjoy
There is no replacement for displacement! I have both. I have an ls3. Tuned and cammed up. I also have a zz502. The Ls3 doesn't have the torque of the zz502. On the street torque is KING!
Except your comparing a passenger car LS to a Crate GM performance motor. Very very apples to oranges. The 502 is purpose built, at least compare it to a LSX.
Man I agree with you, I personally am a diehard big block guy, I love the LS too, but my #1 pick would be a big block built with some modern tech like EFI, electronic fuel pump, and especially for mopars a superior oil pump. But to get LS reliability out of a big block is not that hard and man are they fun to drive!
Sbc 400 dynoed at 633 hp. All new parts and modern machineing. From carb to oil pan 12k... cant build LS for that price. Super fun and you cant get the deep healthy sound out of ls like a gen 1 motor
@@ryangulley2051 wrong. same price. Wanna talk to professional drag racers, circle track racers etc about why they should switch to a shitty ls platform that blows heads and breaks valvetrain components and leaks everywhere.. go ahead
@kevin122759 then they are either stock rebuilt 427s with a cam vs your ls2 cam plus whatever else you have or the big block is in a much heavier vehicle. Even a well built small block chevy (not a factory type rebuild with a cam) in a comparable vehicle to your gto can gap you. The stock ls2 aluminum 6.0 with a cam is a good running unit. But it doesn't take much to get a BBC or sbc for that matter real rowdy
I'm not sure why big block = 454. I'm running a 632 from Blueprint. You can certainly get the 815+ hp out of a suoercharged LS, but probably not on pump gas, and reliability will come into question. If you have to run methanol to turn up the boost, it really reaks havoc on all the parts. Sound was covered here, but the 632 is generally much deeper and more distinctive than an LS.
To each their own but I'd rather run a clapped-out 305sbc than lower myself to playing follow the loser and run a ls anything.. just my personal opinion and experience.
@@TheOddRodGarage I agree but I'm so sick and tired of hearing people say "LS Swap It" instead of rebuilding the current engine. I made that mistake in my 72 GMC Sierra, absolute nightmare and didn't run near as well as the original 350. It's not a plug and play swap like everyone thinks, not cheap either!
@@rogerlbl7316me too. couldn't agree more. LS is the biggest peice of shit platform ive ever seen. They break valvetrain components like crazy, leak everywhere and have less cylinder head clamping force. Im so sick of everyone doing monkey see monkey do going with an overrated engine platform. They all say LS have good gas mileage. pshh not really. Also with today's affordable aluminum cylinder heads, sbc can make an easy 500 hp
LS fanboys made me hate LS engines. Or maybe it's just LS fanboys I hate. LS is just another engine. Pretty disposable too, like everything else built in the past 20+yrs. They are the everybody gets a trophy engine for people that can't build engines. Just add eBay turbo and pull the pin on that fuckin grenade. Waste of time.
Honestly it depends, if your towing ,drag racing and don't care about mileage ,big block... If it's your daily or summer vehicle and need to get good mileage, ls is more efficient
I just bought a 79 Square Body project truck. It's pretty complete body wise, but in the engine bay sits a 454 in front of a TH400 and that's it. It didn't come with a single drive bracket. The truck came with a 350 and had AC and PS. If I track down all the small block brackets, do they fit, or should I be looking for BB brackets that weren't designed for this truck? Thanks for a great video.
Old school engine with efi technology is what I'm talking about 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾the ls is fine but them old engines will run nice with efi its basically the same set up I'm running holley sniper efi on my old school small block and the cold starts are no problem..
Had my local shop install a new factory Chevy 454HO with Edelbrock Pro Flow 4 on a 1989 3/4 ton Suburban and I absolutely love it ! My rig has a TH400 , 4.56 gears and 37 inch tires, Posi 14 bolt rear end and Eaton electric locker on the front. Made the decision to pour the money into an old school rig as I will never spend 90k on a new truck. I also highly recommend cross over steering on the Square Body's.
I'm a big block guy and I have been for many years I just put my .060 over 427 with 11 to 1 compression howards roller cam afr heads victor jr. Intake and atm 950 cfm in my 88 monte carlo SS and there is something about that engine just sitting in that car that screams cool. A LS has its place but I think running them NA there is no comparison now when you take a stock 5.3 or 6.0 and put twin turbos on it then you have something ive only heard a few good sounding LS engines most of them sound like a shrimp boat running
I think it depends on what you're trying to achieve with your build. If you're looking for day in day out low end power and high torque figures for use in a pickup truck application a big block will be better hands down. If you like the ability of tune on the fly, more drivability and value mpg to some extent (not that anyone really builds for that) LS I suspect will be a better route to go.
Went looking for the follow up and could not find it. I assume the truck that was having all the problems es one of the trucks you were r referring to here.
I have an LS7 and it is dependable, torquey, and VERY easy to work on and its a BIG BLOCK. Reliability is the biggest factor. I also have an LS6 Z06 and welp-she needs special oil, zinc, etc lol
Just to throw a screw ball will have to say at 50 years old now the bbf stroker 557 I have will kill any non power adder LS or non tall deck bbc. It dyno'd at 847 hp on e85 NA with dominator carb and is the factory block at 11.25:1 compression. Today the amount of cheap overseas parts for bbc has made it the best choice for king torque and hp compared to back in the day when aluminum heads were rare and thousands of dollars. If you comparison is just 454 vs 5.3LS then that is a no brainer. LS all have high flowing aluminum factory heads for cheap and GM only made aluminum winters bbc heads that were a fortune too but the "Rec" port bbc heads outflow any factory LS heads. I am a big block guy as can tell but my point is about how big can you stroke it? LS is severely limited and GM and Ford not so much. The other problem to me is if you upgrade your LS means back to the computer programming game and my engine runs strong on a carb I can change jets with a screwdriver and wrench for free. The old saying no replacement for displacement holds strong to this day.
You ignored the big blocks with fuel injection like the gen 6 vortec 454 .Is this because it’s not worth using (intact)?That is it must be converted to old school carb and after market intake manifold etc to get any performance out of it.Ei it’s not going to get any decent gas mileage no matter which route you take(unlike an LS with factory fi that gets great mpg).
Actually due to the design flaw of the LS engine where it has inadequate head bolt clamping force caused by inadequate deck thickness.... sbc and bbc hold better
@@shootermcgavin2819yep, I'll take a bigblock over a LS everytime. I have some pretty stout NA SBCs tucked away too. I've built around 20 LS engines, I wasent impressed and the parts were expensive as hell. But wasent my shit, so I didn't have to pay for them. People like to be trendy. Fuckin sheep....
Gee, putting a big block in a compact truck...and there are fitment issues. NOT the fault of the headers or the big block. Put them both in a Suburban or Silverado....
We did put an LS into the Mazda but we also did an LS and a big block in two different 1965 C10's. That's a full size truck. I am just comparing those two builds. I know that when you put V8's into mini cars that it's always going tp be tight. We are going to put an LS into a 1959 Subaru 360 too. Thanks for watching!
The power and torque curves aren't even close. It's more important for the newer engines to have a good set up, if the setup isn't right the newer engines are dogs. I've always said the best LS mods are gearing and converter.
He might be right about once the computer going out out , your doom on the side of the road . That is rarely tho ,. When do you see a corvette or and LS car on the side . Besides with a Flat tire. What I do see is when I go to hot rod car shows or meets... I might see a few on the side of the road with their big blocks . Either over heating in a summer day or they will always bring fiddling with the carb . . I like both . Big Block and LS. But I’m going to LS this time . Power , and reliability. Probably after 5-10 years I would want a BiG Block . lol 😂
Personally im not an ls swap fan. Im by no means saying this is always the case, but every LS swap ive seen in person, and this is just me personally- has been a mess, sloppy, cobbled together mess. Plus, with custom stuff, comes custom problems. Just my $.02.
😂 If that were true, then everyone would be trying to find the 8.1L (496), instead of the 6L (364), but they are NOT. The big blocks have advantages, especially while towing, but for performance in a lighter vehicle, the 6L is a no Brainer. The LS small blocks Rev much higher.
Iam running a383 stroker Ina 82 monte 342 rear 400 turbo built fitech fuel injection its all torque bring on your store bought engine I making over 600rwh 575 torque
That's awesome that you forged your own pistons and cast your own block and heads. Wait....... did those come from a factory? Never mind. P.S. I love small block and big block Chevy engines..... but each have their advantages.
Well if you are 400 pounds trying to fit a size 4 shoe on you are going to change that shoe. Why stuff a v8 in a lil car when you can twin turbo the 4cylinder and make 400+ hp
Im gonna throw a truck norris in my suburban and after 07 rods with a little port job. That's my 01 suburban. However my 84 k5 is getting it 400 i found from a friend at work. His brother stuck it in a vett a racing it on 8th mile for a while before letting depression win. Well it's just a block my angle plug cast heads got stolen and sold off years ago. My other 84 chevy sports a tall deck 427 and my sons 1984 GMC 4X4 has a solid cam 383. My sons truck left a V8 factory raptor by two truck lengths.
Sorry but the LS takes up as much room as a Big Block , LS headers don't fit worth a shit. I have a big inch aluminum big block twin turbo S10 it was easier to do then the 6.2 we are doing in son's 98 s10 . Sorry I will stay old school.
‘84 square body 1/2 ton 4x4 with a 454, 7 miles to the gallon!!!! Yikes!!! 😱 the most expensive $350.00 I’ve ever spent! It’s a late 70’s truck engine so it has no get up and go. It’s my wood/garbage truck and only sees 50 miles a month, but it’s an expensive 50 miles and I can watch the fuel gauge go down when I pass vehicles, But….. when the grid goes down or the Chinese bomb us with an EMP a points distributor and coil is all it takes to be back on the road!! 🤫 How did we get from hotrod motors to conspiracy theories? TH-cam Baby!! That’s how!
Gen IV’s are cheaper to build, No Computer Chips or Sensors, Can be built north of 500 HP with no boost or nitrous, sound BadAss, and look like an engine should! Less retrofitting, same engine mounts, I can keep going…
454 is are definitely plentiful. You'll find them in every Trailer Park Scrap yard and piece of crap motorhome. An old boats people can't get rid of. They were drunk when they were new they didn't get better with time
Big block with 871 blower all day long. Pansies and cheap people like little LS engines with turdbos. You will never see a professional monster truck, top fuel, funny car will a LS engine. They all run big blocks for a reason.
It all depends on what your goal is. If you want a daily driven vehicle that has good power, decent fuel economy and Grandma can get in it and drive to the grocery store.... thats not a supercharged big block. Obviously cubic inch is king for horse power but not all of us can afford the fuel needed, the headaches associated with a blown vehicle or the sheer cost of a supercharged big block ride. I have a supercharged small block 55 chevy gasser wagon....... super fun...... super cool..... super inconvenient! Thanks for watching and commenting.
People get screwed up over HP
It’s a mathematical equation based on torque production
Big blocks rule
Yep. A mild 454 (500 hp) will launch a 3500lb vehicle like a rocket. It’s such a rush to have so much torque right off idle.
When it comes to performance the power to weight ratio rules. A big block weighs 50% more than a small block.
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143wrong. Not 50%
@@ngauruhoezodiac3143aluminium head bigblock don't weigh much more than a SBC. And the power they make more than pulls the weight. Bigblocks have always been king shit on the street since they were invented. They originally were designed to take no prisoners in NASCAR racing. So they were a racing engine first, pass car engine later. Then big trucks got them. Notice they didn't put LS engines in 18,000lb RVs, but they did get bigblocks. Ain't no comparison to those who think logical.
@@thereluctantgearhead4544 And how much do the aluminium heads cost? They might weigh 30lb less but if you are not racing is it worth it?
I’m 60 years old and I have 5 big blocks and one LS. I agree with this video. My 84 model is very reliable. Sounds great too. Just something about that rumble.
like he said , pop the hood , a 454 , " a big chunck of american iron '' ... that is selling
Old school hell yea just got done putting a big block in a s10 a lot of work but it’s cool I think great video
Ol Skool baby! Thanks for watching!
How hard was it. I have a 98 2.2l s10 with rod knock. I wanted a v8 in it since I owned it. I love old school stuff. I own a big block 4x4 truck and that thing kicks ass.
But i want a daily with a good amount of pep and about 20mpg or more. I was gonna do a 350 or 4.8l truck motor. Always joked about throwing a 454 in it and saying screw the daily. But I've heard its way hard to swap a 454 than the other are.
That's why I'ma go 400sbc with 560hp💪🏾💪🏾
Great video! I’m excited to see the two trucks head to head😎
You and me both! Thanks for watching!
I'm just a home wrencher, I have a 350, 454 and 494 in my toy shed. I pay zero to professionals. I like it because I can do everything myself and make silly power
I love both camps. Each have their place. Thanks for watching!
LS4 super duty 455 awesome horsepower and insane tour I just imagine if you went twin turbo on either motor💪
That would be cool! Thanks for watching!
Awesome can’t wait to see the race
You and me both! Thanks for watching!
VERY COOL APPROACH!!!! Old school bbc lover too but question the Ls swap. Nicely done!
Except for the roller cam fuel injected years in the 90's. Those are costly & somewhat rare. But gas milage?? No contest
The LS only shines in stock form with a single turbo, making 600hp up to maybe 1000hp on a stock engine, once you have to modify the engine to handle more power the LS no longer has any advantage, the truth is that any high hp engine now days is aftermarket block and heads, with all aftermarket internal parts, so at what point does the stock or lightly modified engine hold up to, but once fully modified it comes down to personally what you like, not what makes more power
I agree but once it is all aftermarket is it a Chevy. Ford or Chrysler??? The basic design is there but nothing is from the factory. Thanks for watching!
Yep, basically if you have a big block build it or if you have a LS build it. But hard to beat a LS when it comes to size they fit in everything haha. And hard to beat LS efi, from what I've heard EFI systems for old school motors takes a lot of work to make run right. Have 2 friends that tried it but ended just throwing a carb back on.
Preach
I'm glad 550 hp is my goal
@@henrywal an 5.3L with opened up ring gap, open the second ring more than the first, maybe as much as double, I heard a guy say he does.125 and sees no ill effect, he said you will notice when you get peak power it doesn't fall off as if when you have extra gap on the second, otherwise good head gaskets and maybe a camshaft and valve spring for more RPM, and let it rip, bone stockish with a GT45 TURBO from ebay, enjoy
632 BBC is the new KING!
Sounds cheap too!
@@TheOddRodGaragedepends on the person building it and what tools are at your disposal.
ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!!
That’s a regular one tho gotta get a zz632
What’s cheap !?!? The money wasted on performance that never happens.
Or a decent built 454 …
And it drips oil . Big whoop 🙌🏼
There is no replacement for displacement! I have both. I have an ls3. Tuned and cammed up. I also have a zz502. The Ls3 doesn't have the torque of the zz502. On the street torque is KING!
I agree completely but.................. With the Big Block you can pass everything except a gas station! Thanks for watching!
Except your comparing a passenger car LS to a Crate GM performance motor. Very very apples to oranges. The 502 is purpose built, at least compare it to a LSX.
@@TheOddRodGaragemy big block chevy gets decent gas mileage almost 16 miles per gallon on the highway.
@@musclebone7875what's the set up that's good milage
Great video Pete.
Lookin forward to the showdown.
You and me both! Thanks for watching!
The younger guys all about ls us older guys can't beat big block
Man I agree with you, I personally am a diehard big block guy, I love the LS too, but my #1 pick would be a big block built with some modern tech like EFI, electronic fuel pump, and especially for mopars a superior oil pump. But to get LS reliability out of a big block is not that hard and man are they fun to drive!
100% Thanks for watching!
The 8100 vortec is pretty much exactly this. Y girdle and cathedral ports on a monster rat engine :)
I’m saving my little money to get a big block chevy 454
Great engine. Thanks for watching!
Sbc 400 dynoed at 633 hp. All new parts and modern machineing. From carb to oil pan 12k... cant build LS for that price. Super fun and you cant get the deep healthy sound out of ls like a gen 1 motor
It depends on your application! Thanks for watching!
Can easily build a ls for way cheaper and smoke that 400 with ease
@@ryangulley2051 wrong. same price. Wanna talk to professional drag racers, circle track racers etc about why they should switch to a shitty ls platform that blows heads and breaks valvetrain components and leaks everywhere.. go ahead
@@ryangulley2051LS sucks!!!!!! Fanboy....
I’m making 900 whp with an ls3 407 with an lsa s/c for about the same price.
I'll leave the LS for the younger crowd and stick with my old Gen 4s. I run them in both my hotrods and my brothers 48 Chevy coupe. 😊
I'm old school! Thanks for watching!
i looked for the comparison video and didn't find it. did i miss it, or did you not make it
Every racer that starts with an LS switches over to a big block to race
I run LS2 GTO. I have raced a few big block 427s at the track. I haven't been beaten by one yet. Elevation is 5000 ft.
@kevin122759 then they are either stock rebuilt 427s with a cam vs your ls2 cam plus whatever else you have or the big block is in a much heavier vehicle. Even a well built small block chevy (not a factory type rebuild with a cam) in a comparable vehicle to your gto can gap you. The stock ls2 aluminum 6.0 with a cam is a good running unit. But it doesn't take much to get a BBC or sbc for that matter real rowdy
@@michaelstoker6710I race and have raced about everything. Technology has made a 5.0 liter coyote outperform any stock BBC.
I'm not sure why big block = 454. I'm running a 632 from Blueprint. You can certainly get the 815+ hp out of a suoercharged LS, but probably not on pump gas, and reliability will come into question. If you have to run methanol to turn up the boost, it really reaks havoc on all the parts. Sound was covered here, but the 632 is generally much deeper and more distinctive than an LS.
To each their own but I'd rather run a clapped-out 305sbc than lower myself to playing follow the loser and run a ls anything.. just my personal opinion and experience.
Follow the loser......... That's rough. I like both worlds. I don't think there is a "wrong camp". There are reasons for both.
@@TheOddRodGarage I agree but I'm so sick and tired of hearing people say "LS Swap It" instead of rebuilding the current engine.
I made that mistake in my 72 GMC Sierra, absolute nightmare and didn't run near as well as the original 350. It's not a plug and play swap like everyone thinks, not cheap either!
@@rogerlbl7316me too. couldn't agree more. LS is the biggest peice of shit platform ive ever seen. They break valvetrain components like crazy, leak everywhere and have less cylinder head clamping force. Im so sick of everyone doing monkey see monkey do going with an overrated engine platform. They all say LS have good gas mileage. pshh not really. Also with today's affordable aluminum cylinder heads, sbc can make an easy 500 hp
Follow the sheep more like it. But they read on the internet........
LS fanboys made me hate LS engines. Or maybe it's just LS fanboys I hate. LS is just another engine. Pretty disposable too, like everything else built in the past 20+yrs. They are the everybody gets a trophy engine for people that can't build engines. Just add eBay turbo and pull the pin on that fuckin grenade. Waste of time.
Honestly it depends, if your towing ,drag racing and don't care about mileage ,big block... If it's your daily or summer vehicle and need to get good mileage, ls is more efficient
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
I just bought a 79 Square Body project truck. It's pretty complete body wise, but in the engine bay sits a 454 in front of a TH400 and that's it. It didn't come with a single drive bracket. The truck came with a 350 and had AC and PS. If I track down all the small block brackets, do they fit, or should I be looking for BB brackets that weren't designed for this truck? Thanks for a great video.
Old school engine with efi technology is what I'm talking about 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾the ls is fine but them old engines will run nice with efi its basically the same set up I'm running holley sniper efi on my old school small block and the cold starts are no problem..
Thanks for watching!
got me a 1988 chevy C3500, 454 gen4.😍😍😎😎
I like me a 454. Thanks for watching!
I’m in Minnesota and every shop that has a name for their self want 20k plus for a LS swap or won’t touch it at all
If you do it yourself you will save a ton. Thanks for watching!
Not in Texas
Sucks to live in Minnesota.
Being trendy ain't cheap....
Very informative. Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Had my local shop install a new factory Chevy 454HO with Edelbrock Pro Flow 4 on a 1989 3/4 ton Suburban and I absolutely love it ! My rig has a TH400 , 4.56 gears and 37 inch tires, Posi 14 bolt rear end and Eaton electric locker on the front. Made the decision to pour the money into an old school rig as I will never spend 90k on a new truck. I also highly recommend cross over steering on the Square Body's.
I'm a big block guy and I have been for many years I just put my .060 over 427 with 11 to 1 compression howards roller cam afr heads victor jr. Intake and atm 950 cfm in my 88 monte carlo SS and there is something about that engine just sitting in that car that screams cool. A LS has its place but I think running them NA there is no comparison now when you take a stock 5.3 or 6.0 and put twin turbos on it then you have something ive only heard a few good sounding LS engines most of them sound like a shrimp boat running
Gen 6 454 best of both worlds ls style gaskets 1 piece rear main sea lbetter cooling priority oiling roller cam 4 bolt main ,how you doin?
I think it depends on what you're trying to achieve with your build. If you're looking for day in day out low end power and high torque figures for use in a pickup truck application a big block will be better hands down. If you like the ability of tune on the fly, more drivability and value mpg to some extent (not that anyone really builds for that) LS I suspect will be a better route to go.
The LS is a great engine. Probably better than the BB. Don’t care, big block all day!
What about Olds big block prices
Went looking for the follow up and could not find it. I assume the truck that was having all the problems es one of the trucks you were r referring to here.
I have an LS7 and it is dependable, torquey, and VERY easy to work on and its a BIG BLOCK. Reliability is the biggest factor. I also have an LS6 Z06 and welp-she needs special oil, zinc, etc lol
I have a 454 but changing to an LS. I want the MPG, dependability, no oil leaks and I’m tired of replacing starters.
Weak.....
Are you also transitioning? What are your pronouns? Haha!
I can't imagine cutting off my penis..... That must take alot of courage.
Lol the wife says in the 1850’s that was funny
What was funny?
"No replacement for displacement"
Power adders??? Thanks for watching!
@@TheOddRodGarage I was referring to NA engines.
@@TheOddRodGarage Put a power adder on a 454 and you will get more power than putting a power adder on a small block LS.
What is the fastest motor I can get for 2007 Chevy suburban
Depends on how much money you have. Thanks for watching.
In my op. the 4.8 has the best rod ratio of ANY SBC or BBC engine.
LS is cheaper on gas. I have a 454 and an LS in 2 of my vehicles and the LS is definitely cheaper on gas, but I like the power of the 454 more.
Love the content
Thanks for watching!
Agreed. Thanks for watching!
So buy a Prius, I hear they are pretty good on gas, but not much else.
Just to throw a screw ball will have to say at 50 years old now the bbf stroker 557 I have will kill any non power adder LS or non tall deck bbc. It dyno'd at 847 hp on e85 NA with dominator carb and is the factory block at 11.25:1 compression. Today the amount of cheap overseas parts for bbc has made it the best choice for king torque and hp compared to back in the day when aluminum heads were rare and thousands of dollars. If you comparison is just 454 vs 5.3LS then that is a no brainer. LS all have high flowing aluminum factory heads for cheap and GM only made aluminum winters bbc heads that were a fortune too but the "Rec" port bbc heads outflow any factory LS heads. I am a big block guy as can tell but my point is about how big can you stroke it? LS is severely limited and GM and Ford not so much. The other problem to me is if you upgrade your LS means back to the computer programming game and my engine runs strong on a carb I can change jets with a screwdriver and wrench for free. The old saying no replacement for displacement holds strong to this day.
You ignored the big blocks with fuel injection like the gen 6 vortec 454 .Is this because it’s not worth using (intact)?That is it must be converted to old school carb and after market intake manifold etc to get any performance out of it.Ei it’s not going to get any decent gas mileage no matter which route you take(unlike an LS with factory fi that gets great mpg).
I guess Benjamin is gonna have to name his next dog LS. 😄
Yup. Thanks for watching!
I'm gonna settle the argument........the amount of head bolts between the two.
BBC wins.
Bottom end and weight, LS wins
Thanks for watching!
One wire and that big block will run.
I agree! Thanks for watching!
That Big Block going to set that ass on fire when getting busy with fast cars.
Big block, big power!
Where can I find the best correct converstion info. For each Chevy Camaro, Nova, and Chevelle?
I'm not really sure. I just do my own thing! Thanks for watching!
Turbos work rreal good on bigblocks too....
Actually due to the design flaw of the LS engine where it has inadequate head bolt clamping force caused by inadequate deck thickness.... sbc and bbc hold better
@@shootermcgavin2819yep, I'll take a bigblock over a LS everytime. I have some pretty stout NA SBCs tucked away too. I've built around 20 LS engines, I wasent impressed and the parts were expensive as hell. But wasent my shit, so I didn't have to pay for them. People like to be trendy. Fuckin sheep....
Gee, putting a big block in a compact truck...and there are fitment issues. NOT the fault of the headers or the big block. Put them both in a Suburban or Silverado....
We did put an LS into the Mazda but we also did an LS and a big block in two different 1965 C10's. That's a full size truck. I am just comparing those two builds. I know that when you put V8's into mini cars that it's always going tp be tight. We are going to put an LS into a 1959 Subaru 360 too. Thanks for watching!
I swapped a 454 into a 84 S-10 over 30yrs ago. They can fit if ya make em.
Great info!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
The power and torque curves aren't even close. It's more important for the newer engines to have a good set up, if the setup isn't right the newer engines are dogs. I've always said the best LS mods are gearing and converter.
He might be right about once the computer going out out , your doom on the side of the road .
That is rarely tho ,. When do you see a corvette or and LS car on the side . Besides with a Flat tire.
What I do see is when I go to hot rod car shows or meets... I might see a few on the side of the road with their big blocks . Either over heating in a summer day or they will always bring fiddling with the carb . .
I like both . Big Block and LS. But I’m going to LS this time . Power , and reliability.
Probably after 5-10 years I would want a BiG Block . lol 😂
Step by step conversion info.!!!
I know "Dirty Dingo" sells mounts for both engine conversions. Look them up on the web. They are here in the Gilbert area. Thanks for watching!
Personally im not an ls swap fan. Im by no means saying this is always the case, but every LS swap ive seen in person, and this is just me personally- has been a mess, sloppy, cobbled together mess. Plus, with custom stuff, comes custom problems. Just my $.02.
What about a 572?
I don't even have to watch the video. LS is still a SMALL BLOCK. Less cubic inches. Big block = MORE POWER.
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Oh yeah? You think a 6.2L has less power than a 396 or 454 stock?
@@Chevelle602 most definitely uncertain 454 and 396 years
@@Chevelle602 stock form no. modified? Well you ask any professional drag racer..
😂 If that were true, then everyone would be trying to find the 8.1L (496), instead of the 6L (364), but they are NOT. The big blocks have advantages, especially while towing, but for performance in a lighter vehicle, the 6L is a no Brainer. The LS small blocks Rev much higher.
Number 2 cost is all wrong. You can find a 5.3 for 500$ or less. I just brought a 6.0 for 600$.
Iam running a383 stroker Ina 82 monte 342 rear 400 turbo built fitech fuel injection its all torque bring on your store bought engine I making over 600rwh 575 torque
That's awesome that you forged your own pistons and cast your own block and heads. Wait....... did those come from a factory? Never mind. P.S. I love small block and big block Chevy engines..... but each have their advantages.
I’m old school.
Me too! Thanks for watching!
Doing a turbo psi 8.8 liter which is based on the gen 7 8.1 in my suburban it better tow easier than my turbo 6.0 truck
Well if you are 400 pounds trying to fit a size 4 shoe on you are going to change that shoe. Why stuff a v8 in a lil car when you can twin turbo the 4cylinder and make 400+ hp
No comparison big big Block will always make more power then an ls.
Big Block ... YES! LS .... YES!
Im gonna throw a truck norris in my suburban and after 07 rods with a little port job. That's my 01 suburban. However my 84 k5 is getting it 400 i found from a friend at work. His brother stuck it in a vett a racing it on 8th mile for a while before letting depression win. Well it's just a block my angle plug cast heads got stolen and sold off years ago. My other 84 chevy sports a tall deck 427 and my sons 1984 GMC 4X4 has a solid cam 383. My sons truck left a V8 factory raptor by two truck lengths.
Sorry but the LS takes up as much room as a Big Block , LS headers don't fit worth a shit. I have a big inch aluminum big block twin turbo S10 it was easier to do then the 6.2 we are doing in son's 98 s10 . Sorry I will stay old school.
Love old skool. Thanks for watching!
My 454 in a ‘72 C10 will not be outrun by an LS truck unless it is boosted! 600 lb ft
Just think if you boost a big block, bye L's😅😅😅❤❤
Daily driver........ LS, Ultimate horsepower......... Big block! Thanks for watching!
‘84 square body 1/2 ton 4x4 with a 454, 7 miles to the gallon!!!! Yikes!!! 😱 the most expensive $350.00 I’ve ever spent! It’s a late 70’s truck engine so it has no get up and go. It’s my wood/garbage truck and only sees 50 miles a month, but it’s an expensive 50 miles and I can watch the fuel gauge go down when I pass vehicles, But….. when the grid goes down or the Chinese bomb us with an EMP a points distributor and coil is all it takes to be back on the road!! 🤫 How did we get from hotrod motors to conspiracy theories? TH-cam Baby!! That’s how!
It's all connected. Thanks for watching!
454 👍
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What happened to the race?
Still brewing. Thanks for watching!
@The Odd Rod Garage still waiting
Gen IV’s are cheaper to build, No Computer Chips or Sensors, Can be built north of 500 HP with no boost or nitrous, sound BadAss, and look like an engine should! Less retrofitting, same engine mounts, I can keep going…
454 is are definitely plentiful. You'll find them in every Trailer Park Scrap yard and piece of crap motorhome. An old boats people can't get rid of. They were drunk when they were new they didn't get better with time
Big block 💪
Rat 454🔧💪
One of my favorites! Thanks for watching!
I have a lt1 trans am I think I’m cool 😎
Big block with 871 blower all day long. Pansies and cheap people like little LS engines with turdbos. You will never see a professional monster truck, top fuel, funny car will a LS engine. They all run big blocks for a reason.
It all depends on what your goal is. If you want a daily driven vehicle that has good power, decent fuel economy and Grandma can get in it and drive to the grocery store.... thats not a supercharged big block. Obviously cubic inch is king for horse power but not all of us can afford the fuel needed, the headaches associated with a blown vehicle or the sheer cost of a supercharged big block ride. I have a supercharged small block 55 chevy gasser wagon....... super fun...... super cool..... super inconvenient! Thanks for watching and commenting.
We took a perfect ls abd dragged it around with a. Chain because there ugly. .
LS vs Bigblock haha! Thats like saying Pee Wee Herman vs Mike Tyson......
Ls trucks outsell bbc trucks 3 to 1 here. lighter stronger faster,
Big block.
Big blocks suck too much juice
I was on team bbc from 1993 to 2020. Sorry but LS Rules. 6.0 4l80e for the win
Every day driver l.s drag racing I'm a after market big block all day
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Tuner for a 454....a nice $10 screwdriver 🪛