he can usually make good videos but this entire video was a huge miss. It isnt often two of the worst takes (that arent on the level of "Super is when dragon ball got good" or "Great saiyaman RUINED gohan's arc (because its not like gohan already completed his arc or anything) are in the same video (thise takes being ssj4 design is bad and that raging blast is so bad it makes it look like the developers forgot how to make games, when mechanically it plays and controls so much more smoothly than budokai tenkaichi 3, a game he praised seconds earlier)
@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO There's nothing wrong with thinking SS4 design sucks because there's nothing objective about its quality. You can dislike it and that's completely valid. I think it sucks because it doesn't even look like a Super Saiyan transformation, it looks completely unrelated and yet it's the fourth stage of Super Saiyan.
@@okagron That's because it is unrelated, and just had the SSJ4 name tacked on. The SSJ4 is more like a different transformation path based on the Oozaru form rather than the golden haired super saiyan.
@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO > that raging blast is so bad it makes it look like the developers forgot how to make games To be fair, if you're comparing it to BT3 (the last PS2 game the same dev team made), it is really bad. The animations (and thus action) are significantly slower, the roaster got cut in half, the combat got streamlined in the sense that it got remapped and several moves were removed, and the customs mode utterly broke any sense of balance.
That’s what I’m sayin, Budokai 3 was the best DBZ game, while all of the Tenkaichi games were massively overrated. The only thing that was good about the Tenkaichi games, was the amount of content in Tenkaichi 3
He got me with that shit. He puts the imo best dragonball game ever created in the thumbnail so people click on it because everyone knows fighterZ is a good game.
I liked the SSJ4 design, but with that being said, when Battle of Gods was in the works, the initial design for the SSJG form looked SOMEWHAT like a Golden version of the SSJ4 form from DB GT....And also the only Saiyan to ever obtain BOTH forms naturally was Goku, in the case of Vegeta, he obtained SSJ4 via a Blutz Wave machine and trained with Whis to obtain the SSJGSSJ form or SSJBlue
@@JadenYukifan28 SSjG looked like Golden SSj4?? HOW!??? When I first saw SSjG I nitpicked the shit out of if because Goku "downgraded" and became skinny, and the plus side was it changed his hair to red, which reminded me too much of Kaioken. Now, I still feel the same, but it is far more refreshing than Blue, but I'm still upset there aren't multipliers or even consistent fights (Vegeta apparently could go SSjG the whole time, but actually decides to use SSj1/2 throughout Super against Anaraza, Cabba, etc even though it is supposedly more energy consuming according to the headcanon.) Vegito SSj3 was supposedly no match for SSjG back when BoG was new, but then Kale/Krillin/17 tanks/match Blue Kamehameha. WTF. Oh, it's not "Full power"? No, it's lazy. Oh, and then there's Kaioken Blue, Blue 2, Rose, Rage, Berserk, Berserk but calm, Berserk but calm+, Omen UI, and "mastered" UI...like how many forms are there!? Oh, and then there's the manga, where Roshi has UI, Mastered SSB is a thing, and Black SSj1 is a thing as well. It's just a mess and we have to live with it. But all of that is irrelevant. How do you confuse Base+Red+Skinny for SSj3/4-like long hair+Golden Fur+Buff?
@@Goblin_Hands No no, before the actual SSJG form was chosen, they wanted it to look more like what the SSJ4 form looks like, but with Gold hair and fur...then when they chose the way it looks now, someone mentioned that it should look more slim lined rather than muscular..hence why Goku's SSJG form looked as if he was in his Base form..sans the red coloring
@@JadenYukifan28 Hmm...pretty sure the Golden form existed in theory even before SSj4: "Gold was considered to be the head hair color of the Super Saiyan 4 form (like the core Super Saiyan forms); however, it was decided that black head hair went better with the red body hair." dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_4#cite_note-TGW-6 Plus, you'd have to imagine people thought of using gold before silver for SSj5 in AF, but you might be right in that they considered it for SSjG after all that. I guess I just misread your 1st comment.
Yeah no super sayian 4 was shit. Super sayian blue was shit. And honestly super sayian 3 is raditz with blonde hair dye and no eye brows. Out of the big 4 shonen anime (dbz, naruto, one piece, bleach) dbz is the most uncreative shit ever. Not saying I don’t like dbz, I fucking love dbz, but when the first super sayian transformation (which becomes common as hell) and ultra instinct (gets fucking spammed in super) it just shows that dbz is a shittier anime than the other 3. And I like dbz more than bleach
@@ZacharyHampton yep 100% true. One piece and naruto are better in this regard. Bleach and dbz, particularly buu saga and dbs, suck. It's basically color swapping character's hairs at this point. It was a fun premise at first but now it's shit because of the power levels, ridiculous names ie ultra instinct and all the bs. Ss4 was bs too like tf oozaru to ss4?
You did yourself a disservice by not playing Raging Blast 2. That game was up there for best DBZ fighting game, with amazing multi battles and crazy opportunities to revisit some of the toughest battles realistically with proper imbalancing against you so you felt the weight of the difficulty. Plus there was attack customization and a cinematic deflect mechanic. Honestly, you should give RB2 a chance. Was not disappointed with it, and it came close to surpassing Tenkaichi 3 as my favorite multiplayer DBZ romp.
I appreciate the Kinect for one reason: it’s how I convinced my parents to buy me a 360 in 6th grade, they assumed the Kinect would help me get exercise.
Rofl ^this dude is literally just copy pasting his shitty -opinion- flame on any comments that don't shun SS4. Also what the fuck is up with that jank ass capitilzation and _terrible_ attempt to look intelligent by sprinkling "big" words throughout in a very forced and clearly ill-educated fashion? Either this is omega troll or you need to hit them damn english books homie.
@@HuntressHashi I'm somewhere in the middle but more or less agree. As a kid who loved DBZ and was just ecstatic there was a continuation (I didn't really understand canon/noncanon back then but I'd have still enjoyed it for that reason alone regardless) my memory is pretty absent of bad memories for it. Between seeing some clips sprinkled and just being objective about flaws where they are regardless of my enjoyment for something now that I'm grown, I probably would be bothered by alot if I rewatched I admit. That said, the moment SSJ4 and not to mention SSJ4 Gogeta/100x Big Bang Kamehameha hit the screen were legendary moments for me and my friends. When Gogeta deflects the final enemies most powerful attack with a single finger, eyes closed, and didn't move an inch- my friends and I were absolutely losing our minds lol. I choose to keep them in tact instead of ruin them with my adult brain that's realistic and wants continuity because there's slim to zero chance I'll be able to find many shows I love enough to have those level of emotions for without appeasing said brain, at this point in my life. I do think it's a victim of the hate train, but it's definitely not exempt from criticism or absent of things to criticize by far. It had some good idea's and that's what I think is most significant to take away. Pan will always be annoying as all hell though. That has never been not-true lmao.
@@HuntressHashi Also, soothe your eyes with this one. Someone made it with yarn crocheted on a plastic grid (I think it's yarn) and it's sexier than any digital one I've seen has ever been. It's bootyful i-h1.pinimg.com/474x/45/c3/66/45c36673c360042505a3a618655c98ac.jpg
There is like one recoler dude ssj1 thru 3 were the same colors with different designs god was a slimmer form and my personal favorite blue is the only recoler
The DBZ CCG did change my life. I won the National Championships in 2003 and was hired by the company that made the game, and later I was hired by FUNimation and got to work on some DBZ stuff. Gave me my start in the entertainment field and I currently work in marketing on some first-party video game titles on console.
Did you call ssj4 design awful?That's just stupid. I mean ssj4 probably has the best design with the cool looking hair while still adding more than just a simple hair style and color change. Its by far the best form and most creative.
Steven Drake More details does not equate to a good design. I like God WAY more than SSJ4...but eh. I don’t HATE it. I just find it inferior. Better than Blue though.
I'm kinda with Xavier on that point. Or rather I hate ss4 in GT because all of GTs designs (especially Vegeta Pan and Trunks )are bad to mediocre at best. SS4 Xeno Goku though? That's the best
Benny Bluestacks Gave trunks a bad design? Did you see what they did to him in Super? GT trunks looks leagues above super, especially that tacky green shit bulma put on him.
RajOfColumbus Yeah? Uh...okay. So is Super Saiyan God. His hair burns red, his eyes become a bit wider and have pupils instead of none like Goku usually has, and most importantly he VISABLY becomes slimmer. That’s a very clear transformation, but doesn’t force Goku into a fur suit with eyeliner. Again, I don’t hate SSJ4, but I find it inferior to almost every other form not named “Super Saiyan Blue”.
Am I the only one who thinks the Super Saiyan 4 design is cool tho? It feels a lot more creative than just Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan or even Super Saiyan 3, I like the concept of "conquering the Great Ape form", and the hybrid look for what in GT was supposed to be the "definitive Super Saiyan form"
AlexTenThousand Yeah, I definitely agree with you there. I also hated how Vegeta went SSJ4 by using this machine that Bulma made, ‘cause the real prince Vegeta wouldn’t just throw away his pride to reach a form that Goku attained on his own. At least we got SSJ4 Gogeta out of it, who is *badass.*
The problem is that Vegeta had conquered the Great Ape form all the way back in the Saiyan saga because he was in full control. So it makes no sense for SS4 to be that when someone already had done it.
Omg Taiketsu, that game almost broke me as a kid. It was the first time I really understood that companies would actually put out garbage products to make a quick buck
@@rej3ktstudios986 Yeah, he became kind of a meme as 'the loser', which is honestly baffling to me. Dude is am multi-millionaire baseball player, he ACTUALLY uses his abilities for monetary gain, he's probably the smartest dude there.
Just because FighterZ is the most recent doesn't mean it's the first good Dragon Ball fighter. The Budokai series was fantastic and was essentially Dragon Ball Tekken. The true reason why fighterz is so fucking awesome is because it uses the MvC3 gameplay formula
Omg I had completely pushed this game out of my memory till now. Being a poor kid was rough... Im sure I nearly 100%'d this piece of garbage out of necessity. God was it bad
GT saying it's a cult hit is probably because, like every other Dragon Ball thing, it was really popular in Latin America. You know, despite it being absolute trash
*+painhellemental 9000* Oh come on, really!. Even then, it is still a Goku recolor, nothing more. So if people are gonna shit at the Blue transformation for being a recolor I can do the same with the Kaioken.
DBZ Sagas. Just...all of it. What’s even worse is that for a long time, it was the *only* DBZ game for Xbox. So if you were an Xbox player and a DBZ fan, that’s essentially all you had! And I was never the biggest fan of Raging Blast either. To me it just felt like bootleg Budokai Tenkaichi, and it’s safe to say that I just stuck with that instead.
That's how it would be spelled if Disney wasn't always towering over everyone, breathing mach 5 winds down their necks and staring into their souls without eye contact. They sued a daycare, don't think for a second they wouldn't go after Shonen Jump or Funimation.
I swear only halfway into this video and I have a feeling that a lot of Dragonball fans are going to disagree with most of your picks and your opinion heavily.
I already feel that way when he started trashing on Final Bout. Yes, it was not a good game but I like some of it's mechanics (Meteor strike combos) and fighting Oozaru Baby was one of the best thing that game has to offer.
Final Bout is way overhated. It was the FIRST 3D Dragon Ball game and had things that even more recent games sometimes lack, like beam struggles and tournaments. And Meteor system was unique.
I stopped when he said their wasn't any Super Saiyans in the game which is a lie. There's Super and Super Saiyan forms of Little Goku, Goku, and Trunks. And there's Super forms of Vegeta and Vegetto which showed he was talking out his ass
24:40: No, they didn't. If Spike Chunsoft really tried their best they would have created a new game from the ground up with the Kinect's control scheme in mind. They didn't do that. DBZ for Kinect is just an incomplete port of Ultimate Tenkaichi with a first-person POV and a control scheme that wasn't intended for it.
Did you just say that GT was cancelled? It got an actual ending. It was a shit show of an anime with only a handful of good ideas such as how cool Super Saiyan 4 looked, the idea of a villainous Tuffle wanting revenge for what the Saiyans did to his planet (though, Baby was just evil for the sake of being evil), and the idea that overusing the Dragon Balls could lead to disastrous results. Also, Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 had something like... over 300 playable characters. Granted, a good chunk of them were just different forms and alternate versions of other characters but it still had a butt load of characters that reached over 100, at the very least, if you don't want to count the transformations and alternate versions of other characters. Also, I feel that if Webfoot got the chance to make another fighting game or beat 'em up, they could have pulled a Legacy of Goku and made something pretty alright with the sequels. I mean, Legacy of Goku was so shitty that you wouldn't imagine that they would ever make a sequel... but they did. And it was pretty good, as you're already well aware. So, personally, despite Dragon Ball Z: Taiketsu and Dragon Ball GT: Transformation being absolute shit shows, I would have liked to see sequels to them and see how they could improve since... well... there's no way the sequels could end up being worse. Right?
@@hereticX67 There wasn't really a point to any other of the forms either. It should've just stayed at SSJ, but since GT was a new thing back then I guess they wanted to add something different. The design looks fine off the bat but from other conversations I had, the color choices don't seem to make sense but honestly I'm not sure what other colors the fur would work with. I imagine brown fur looking weird with black hair, the only one to pull that off was SSJ4 gogeta since the colors of the fur and hair were switched.
SSJ4 was probably the best thing that ever happened since DBZ ended. Ultra Instinct? Super Saiyan Blue? SUper Saiyan God? All just recolors! SSJ4 was original, it was also throwing Goku back to his Roots, the Saiyans original Source of Power, his tail and the Oozaru transformation, And it was god damn cool! People can say to me what they want about GT, but SSJ4 Goku is an awesome design, ties nicely to the Saiyans Origins and it was just badass! Aaaaand no, Final Bout is NOT worse than UB22, NOT EVEN CLOSE! It is bad, but not horrible bad!
@@hypenerd6062 not saying UI was bad, it was just unoriginal and from the looks it was just Base Goku with grey eyes and SLIGHTLY spiker hair. And Mastered version the same, just with white hair. GT Designs in general I prefer over most things from Super. every being on their space Journey looked unique, some more, some less, but still. Baby had a interesting Design. You can say he was Prototype Goku Black, just called Vegeta Black. He was Baby inside Vegetas Body, like Zamasu being inside Gokus body (just how they got into said bodys was different), and much like Goku Black, Baby Vegeta, at first, looked just like Vegeta (just with some marks on eyes and face, and white hair), but the more he made this body his own, the more different it looked, until it had a completely unique design that not even resembling Vegeta anymore. Unlike Goku Black, who looked like from beginning to end =/ And Babys Design and his evolution was also good and interesting. Same for the Shadow Dragons, each look different (Well except Nova and Ice of course), have different Characters and even while some of them where just throwaway villains of the week, they were still interesting and what they can do and what personality they have. I say only Super 17 was kinda meh, but I can't say I hate him. Compare this with 90% of the Super Cast, and you will see that most of them are plain and boring looking, or just ripoffs of other Characters. Cabba is looking like Tarble, Vegetas Brother, with a different face. Forst is pretty much Freezer 2.0 but without his awesome personality, Botamo is discount Winnieh the Pooh and Magetta is actually nice! His Design and his Abilitys are quite nice, and he reminds me of some Chrono Trigger Designs, which is always good! But they did not much with him, tough what they did I liked. Hit looks kinda plain and simple, but for him that works, since that is his whole schtick. He is a assassin, hired to murder, he is not supposed to look fancy and unique, he is supposed to look plain and simple to blend in and not draw needless attention. So he gets a pass! ALso he was one of the more interesting characters, and especially since he is an assassin, his mysterious Character and Abilitys are deserved and it actually compliments him that we don't know too much about him. Sadly, he got ruined in STUPID Filler Episode, when Goku hired him to kill Goku himself, and they kinda nerfed his whole ability and stuff. The Universal tournament just put the nail in the coffin for him. Awesome Character, terribly wasted. Caulifla and Kale are also just boring designs. Especially Caulifla, who looks just like Buff Trunks Hair put on Little Girl with the WORST possible Personality you could have given to her. Kale is even worse. I like her base design, still way too small for my taste (I mean, for being Saiyans, even if it is alternate universe ones, they look NOTHING like Saiyans at all!), but overall not as plain and boring as caulifla, but then she goes Berserk and it is female Broly... LITERALLY BROLY WITH TITS! I facepalmed so hard at this. And let us not talk about the fusion. some Nice scenes, but that was it. The Manga handled at least Kale a little better, showing that in terms of skill, she is actually not behind the other warriors, and in fact, might even surpass them, especially in speed. Also her Character and transformation made more sense in the context of the manga. And no, I won't get into the pride troopers... and certainly not Jiren.
@@NeroDeAngelo dont get me wrong ssj4 looks far better than the forms in super but by super standards ultra instinct sign is probably most unique looking
i think frieza said it best, Super Saiyan with blue hair dye lol it really is just lazy, GT may have been not all that good but some designs we're epic. and Ss4 is exactly that.
2:53 wtf you called SS4 awful, It's way better than SS Blue and in my opinion one of the best transformation's in Dragon Ball, They have to master their oozaru form to archive that form and it's basically their true SS form.
DBZ Budokai 1 was one of my favorite games growing up. I loved the story, and to this day I still think it should have ended at Cell. While I didn't care too much for the gameplay, I did like the skill customization. And briefly stunning your opponent by transforming in front of them never got old.
Hey Austin. I love the video! I did notice a few misconceptions though. Battle of Z and Zenkai Battle/Royale are two completely separate games by two different devs. Zenkai Battle plays more like J-Stars, while BoZ was a (terrible) tactile battle game. Also, Zenkai Battle Royale was the original title, and received an update in 2015 to the current title of Zenkai Battle. Thanks for the awesome content!
Did anyone else own a bunch of the DBZ cards as a kid, but have no idea how the fuck to play it? I even had a friend show me back then and I just found it really confusing. Yet I was super into Yu Gi Oh.
stop talking shit I just think it’s too cluttered, as someone who sees simplicity as VERY important for a design. Throwing too much onto a design hurts the eyes, and makes it hard to appreciate. Doing more with less is what I love. It’s why I love original Super Saiyan and God so much.
Stephen Carter Compare it to Super Saiyan for a second. All it did was make his hair spikier and turn his hair gold, and give his eyes a new tint. That was it. It was simple and appealing. SSJ4 has their hair grow, change into some random color (why is Vegeta’s hair brown? WHY IS GOGETA’S RED?!), coat their body in red fur, obviously they have their tail change too, they get this weird eye outline, their eyes turn orange, their shirt is popped off...that’s way more detail than we need. It’s CLUTTERED.
Xavier Paris SSJ4 is a bit big in terms of design, but it is NOWHERE near cluttered. Literally the only major changes are long hair, red fur, eyes, tail. It’s a callback to what the Saiyans *were*. Humans with monkey attributes (tails, oozaru, etc.) not godlike beings who can destroy planets like it’s a LEGO set.
Battle of Z wasn't based on Zenkai, they just wanted to incorporate a team play element. Battle of Z wasn't even a port of anything. What the hell are you on about? Zenkai is derived from the Tenkaichi/Gundam VS series. Battle of Z wasn't at all trying to be Gundam Vs. or even Zenkai. It had more of a moba-like feel where you take on specific roles and play to a team. It was all in all crushed by horrific character balance though. Broly one swiping everyone lmao. I actually feel like because of the development time surrounding Zenkai that whole Ultimate Tenkaichi thing happened. Yo,I didn't even notice what you said, Zenkai Battle Royale was the first itteration of Zenkai Battle. It came out in 2011, it was a 4 player free for all game that had an event for a 2 v 2 game mode which became the most played mode in the game. Eventually leading to the team adding mechanics specifically for the 2 v 2 experience in 2015 when they renamed it to Zenkai Battle. Please get correct information.
Oh no! That little misinformation about a Japanese game none of us will ever play affects his opinion or points about Battle of Z. Internet probably fucked that up lol and dude battle of Z is literally Gundam VS but not as good so I don't know what you're talking about in that regard. Battle of Z feeling like a moba??? Have you ever played a moba? Yikes. It's about as far away from a moba as you could possibly be. If youre talking about a multiplayer BRAWLER, I can agree. Does Battle of Z have minions and lanes and pushing and tower and all that jazz? No you go in an arena and fight, like what?
@@RekashalGames MOBA is an acronym for Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.... Minions are not a necessity for the genre. The arche-type is team play by META, in BoZ you have Melee, ranged, and support type characters and the game tells you as such, It's a MOBA. There's not a single mechanic in BoZ that translates to or from Gundam VS. Gundam Vs you are constantly pulled to the ground and must use boosting and hopping to move your character you have 5 melee attacks rainbow steps, shot cancelling, etc I could go on. Battle of Z was not trying to be Gundam and its silly to think that it was with the way it pushes you to play. You can see the clear difference when you compare Zenkai to Gundam VS how you can pick from the elements. Zenkai and Gundam VS both force the player in the air to the ground. The only difference is Zenkai stops the player from decending if an input is being read. BOZ however does none of this. In BoZ you can target your teammate to feed them energy so they don't get tired, and put at a major disadvantage, In BOZ you get a reward for simply meleeing the same person that your team mate is hitting, and you have Chase follow ups, that reward the team for responding to them by giving them a larger Ki pool. I could go on. Case and point is. Not every game with a Lock-On and a behind the back camera is trying to be Gundam Vs jfc. and a Multiplayer Brawler is Anarchy Reigns, that game does not force roles onto characters and gives you large stages to fight in. Also no one said a damn thing about his opinion on BoZ the fact that he still provided incorrect information on Zenkai Battle isn't changed by his damn opinion.
Raging Blast 2 was that good shit for me back in the day I always wanted to try the tenkaichi games but never really did since at the time my ass received a 360 and the ps2 was becoming a thing of the past so when I saw trailers for this raging blast 2 I knew I had to have it and while it may not be as great as the tenkaichi games since to this day I haven’t really tried them idc since I’m grateful for the memories I received from it wether it be by completing every characters story or me and my siblings beating each others asses in multiplayer ohh and this is one of the first/few games I actually 100% completed that’s how addicting it was for me!!.....fuck ultimate tenkaichi though that was a total disappointment and a waste of a title
funny thing I watched Gt Dubbed with a dubbed translation of the Japanese opening on dvd and wondered why did america decide tio go with Goku gangsta rap
Y-Ou listen here Austin, Dragon Ball Trading Card game saved my life when my evil step-grandmother made sure it was hell, whenever I felt bad, i would always listen to the same theme played over and over again and i'd be immediately calm!!!!1!!!!
I remember playing Final Bout. I rented it from the grocery store and mashed buttons. Eventually, I got tired of mashing and busted out my 'player 2 turbo' controller for those beam battles... I still lost against the computer
Dragon Ball Z CCG is the best Dragon Ball game. It has depth like no other game so get your Phantasy Star Online lookin ass out, Texas boy....I hope I got your attention.
...I love how the comment is liked even though I fucked the sentence up with "looking ass" instead of "loving ass". Anyway, you liking the comment made my day.
Tbh I feel like Xenoverse 2 should be in here. While there are good things about it, there are things wrong with it. The AI are just retarded enemy or teammate, the NET code is pretty bad (Which makes the pvp annoying), some DLCs suck (like Music Pack 1), lack of new customization for your avatar, the lip-sync in cutscenes(not in-game) are too cringy to see, and etc.
2:55 hold your horses. Ssj4 is straight up one of the best looking transformations in the entire franchise. If you want to see a bad design for a ssj form, look at ssj blue
No. The only good part of SSJ4 was when SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Gogeta, and SSGSS Vegito is overpowered, but that's what you get when the 2 strongest warriors in the series fuse together. And you call yourself an "enthusiast", of Dragon Ball Z? No way. You're no enthusiast. You seem like a snob or a troll to me. Can't you just accept that people out there like SSJ4, hate SSJ4, like SSGSS, and hate SSGSS Blue, and their fusions?
@@dbzenthusiast8152 But I do want to say sorry about the whole saying you're NOT an enthusiast thing a few minutes ago. I think I just let my own love of the entire DB series blind me there for a minute. But I genuinely don't hate the SS Blue Super Saiyan designs. And while i love the entire franchise, it's not 100% perfect, but it is pretty close. I mean, I grew up with it when it was syndicated on Toonami in 2004, when I was only 10 or 11 at the time(I'm 28 now),it was great. And I did have a like/hate relationship with GT for a while, because of how it tried to repeat actual arcs from DBZ, instead of being it's own thing; but when it got cancelled, after only 64 episodes, I began thinking, maybe GT was unfairly criticized. But the villains did have good backstories. Like Baby wanting revenge against the Saiyans because they eradicated the Tuffles and their planet, so they combined the Red Ribbon Army's revenge against Goku, and added another layer to it, by having Baby win by literally controlling the entire planet. Scary stuff. I mean; Baby was consumed by his own hatred for the Saiyan Race. But that arc did have Hercule and Majin Buu trying to help save the earth, and Goku having to fight all alone, which was hard to see, seeing Goten, Gohan, Trunks, all kicking the crap out of Goku, was hard to watch. But after thinking about it and seeing the best GT villains make their way into Dragon Ball FighterZ(Baby Vegeta, Super 17, Omega Shenron), yeah, I mean I did like their characters, even if they do seem like repeats of other DB or DBZ villains, those 3 are some of the best villains Dragon Ball has had, because Baby Vegeta actually mind controlled the entire planet, and destroyed it, Omega Shenron beat everybody and made Goku and the others realize that they relied WAY too heavily on the Dragon Balls, and needed to solve their own problems, without them, and Super 17 was just the conclusion to the Red Ribbon Army stuff, from the original Dragon Ball. And again, sorry if I crossed a line or touched a nerve by saying you're not an enthusiast or anything like that. I mean, I genuinely do like the designs of all the SSJ versions of Goku and Vegeta, I just wish Trunks or Gohan had one, you know? And I definitely wish that Trunks would've gotten his sword repaired too... I mean, Tapion gave him that sword because he reminded him of his brother, and Trunks cut down Mecha Frieza, King Cold, and the last remnants of Frieza's Army with that sword. And, I mean, Future Trunks and Gohan are 2 of my favorite DBZ characters, so you know, a little SSJ4 or SSGSS designs for them would've been nice too...
Developers really didnt know how to use the kinect. Too much knowledge required to have the rights poses and movement. It has great use on pc. I'll only get a Kinect for PC. Mostly not for games though lol.
2:52 Imo, ssj4 was one of the best transformations, looked cool and had a awesome transformation (hell, even enjoyed gt) far better than super and how there were 7 forms that only changed color/aura and just come out of nowhere honestly
As a child I 100% completed GT Transformation and I still have the working Game Boy cart with my save file. That game was my shit for a year or two. Yes, I was very sad and poor, why do you ask?
You hated Raging Blast but haven't played a Dragonball game since Budokai 3? So you never even tried Raging Blast but still hate it? Either you aren't making sense or you are too stupid to have your own opinions and just go along with other people say.
I look away from the screen and all I hear is this moment: 5:46 Now I'm very confused thinking, what are you calling me out for Austin. What did I do to you? I'm joking of course. But still took me by surprise when I heard the name Jesse.
Is it bad that I love Raging Blast? It was the only Dragon Ball game I got to play and loved the controls. I now own Xenoverse 2 and FighterZ but, Raging Blast still has a special place in my heart.
@@AidGum Wow wow no I looked it up yesterday for a few minutes don't worry but forgot to respond, what I said came from the DBWiki dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT but I couldn't find anything in the sources (hell half of it is either a dead link or things I can't find translated online) So yeah it looks like I was wrong, after reading the kanzenshuu however there's also nothing said about it being cancelled and it appeared that it was pretty popular at the time, somehow (www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ if you want to check) So yeah no "end during Baby saga" stuff but it wasn't cancelled either
Raging blast 2 was god damn amazing. You should have played it. And also, ssj4 having bad design? Get the hell outa here. Also I think maybe you should give GT a chance it wasn't an amazing anime but, I really loved it as a kid.
This dude really just said that SS4 was a bad desing and that raging blast was a horrible game? I know it's just your opinion but how can you get so many things wrong? XD
Woah. The nostalgia is too real right here. The first Budokai was truly not very good, but I remember pouring so many hours into it for some reason. Damn. Brings me back.
SSJ1: Blond Vegeta Hair SSJ2: It's Electric SSJ3: Raditz hair and no eyebrows SSJG: It's alright. SSJGSS: A recolor SSJRosè: Another recolor. UI: The white hair ruins go back SSJ4: Remove the eye liner
DBZ Legends would actually be the first game to have the DB simulator-esque feel long before the BT series came about. Too bad they didn't bother localizing that one over UB22 and Final Bout. Also, Battle of Z has little to do with Zenkai Battle Royale. It features a similar team-based style of gameplay, but it is not a port in anyway. It's a completely different title made from scratch specifically for PS3/Vita and Xbox 360.
"Battle of Z doesn't even notify you when you're taking a breather."
*fails to notice energy bar below health bar*
This is par for the course for this type of reviewers.
he can usually make good videos but this entire video was a huge miss. It isnt often two of the worst takes (that arent on the level of "Super is when dragon ball got good" or "Great saiyaman RUINED gohan's arc (because its not like gohan already completed his arc or anything) are in the same video (thise takes being ssj4 design is bad and that raging blast is so bad it makes it look like the developers forgot how to make games, when mechanically it plays and controls so much more smoothly than budokai tenkaichi 3, a game he praised seconds earlier)
@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO There's nothing wrong with thinking SS4 design sucks because there's nothing objective about its quality. You can dislike it and that's completely valid. I think it sucks because it doesn't even look like a Super Saiyan transformation, it looks completely unrelated and yet it's the fourth stage of Super Saiyan.
@@okagron That's because it is unrelated, and just had the SSJ4 name tacked on. The SSJ4 is more like a different transformation path based on the Oozaru form rather than the golden haired super saiyan.
@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO > that raging blast is so bad it makes it look like the developers forgot how to make games
To be fair, if you're comparing it to BT3 (the last PS2 game the same dev team made), it is really bad. The animations (and thus action) are significantly slower, the roaster got cut in half, the combat got streamlined in the sense that it got remapped and several moves were removed, and the customs mode utterly broke any sense of balance.
"They only started good DBZ fighter games with fighterz"
budokai 3 wants to know your *location*
Kochlor 08 what about xenoverse
That’s what I’m sayin, Budokai 3 was the best DBZ game, while all of the Tenkaichi games were massively overrated. The only thing that was good about the Tenkaichi games, was the amount of content in Tenkaichi 3
Nah, he's right.
Hell, Hyper Dimension has things to say. Even if you skip Budokai 3 you've still got Super Dragon Ball Z.
Frost Gaming Ironic, I find B3 to be massively overrated while I find BT2 and BT3 (Plus Raging blast) far superior.
"Bad Dragon Ball Z games."
*Shows Dragon Ball FighterZ in thumbnail*
gotta get views somehow
This is so sad,alexa play ultimate battle
He got me with that shit. He puts the imo best dragonball game ever created in the thumbnail so people click on it because everyone knows fighterZ is a good game.
*Triggered.
But well done.
it was clearly clickbait
Raging blast was nowhere near the best DBZ game but calling it "bad" is the biggest exaggeration of the decade.
raging blast 2 was amazing though
I loved raging blast!
Budokai tenkaichi 3 isn't bad
@@dontcallmerudy9044 He never actually said it was bad...
@@phantasmuh Are you deaf?
SSJ4 design is fantastic take it back
@@OldMemesDieHard
He's a troll, ignore him
I liked the SSJ4 design, but with that being said, when Battle of Gods was in the works, the initial design for the SSJG form looked SOMEWHAT like a Golden version of the SSJ4 form from DB GT....And also the only Saiyan to ever obtain BOTH forms naturally was Goku, in the case of Vegeta, he obtained SSJ4 via a Blutz Wave machine and trained with Whis to obtain the SSJGSSJ form or SSJBlue
@@JadenYukifan28 SSjG looked like Golden SSj4?? HOW!??? When I first saw SSjG I nitpicked the shit out of if because Goku "downgraded" and became skinny, and the plus side was it changed his hair to red, which reminded me too much of Kaioken. Now, I still feel the same, but it is far more refreshing than Blue, but I'm still upset there aren't multipliers or even consistent fights (Vegeta apparently could go SSjG the whole time, but actually decides to use SSj1/2 throughout Super against Anaraza, Cabba, etc even though it is supposedly more energy consuming according to the headcanon.) Vegito SSj3 was supposedly no match for SSjG back when BoG was new, but then Kale/Krillin/17 tanks/match Blue Kamehameha. WTF. Oh, it's not "Full power"? No, it's lazy. Oh, and then there's Kaioken Blue, Blue 2, Rose, Rage, Berserk, Berserk but calm, Berserk but calm+, Omen UI, and "mastered" UI...like how many forms are there!? Oh, and then there's the manga, where Roshi has UI, Mastered SSB is a thing, and Black SSj1 is a thing as well. It's just a mess and we have to live with it.
But all of that is irrelevant. How do you confuse Base+Red+Skinny for SSj3/4-like long hair+Golden Fur+Buff?
@@Goblin_Hands No no, before the actual SSJG form was chosen, they wanted it to look more like what the SSJ4 form looks like, but with Gold hair and fur...then when they chose the way it looks now, someone mentioned that it should look more slim lined rather than muscular..hence why Goku's SSJG form looked as if he was in his Base form..sans the red coloring
@@JadenYukifan28 Hmm...pretty sure the Golden form existed in theory even before SSj4:
"Gold was considered to be the head hair color of the Super Saiyan 4 form (like the core Super Saiyan forms); however, it was decided that black head hair went better with the red body hair."
dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_4#cite_note-TGW-6
Plus, you'd have to imagine people thought of using gold before silver for SSj5 in AF, but you might be right in that they considered it for SSjG after all that. I guess I just misread your 1st comment.
Did you actually just say the Super Saiyan 4 design was bad...? NO. IT IS OBJECTIVELY PERFECT.
Yeah no super sayian 4 was shit. Super sayian blue was shit. And honestly super sayian 3 is raditz with blonde hair dye and no eye brows. Out of the big 4 shonen anime (dbz, naruto, one piece, bleach) dbz is the most uncreative shit ever. Not saying I don’t like dbz, I fucking love dbz, but when the first super sayian transformation (which becomes common as hell) and ultra instinct (gets fucking spammed in super) it just shows that dbz is a shittier anime than the other 3. And I like dbz more than bleach
Nah it’s awful
@@ZacharyHampton Ok, instead of shitting on designs, criticize it. What would you change from the designs?
@@ZacharyHampton yep 100% true. One piece and naruto are better in this regard. Bleach and dbz, particularly buu saga and dbs, suck. It's basically color swapping character's hairs at this point. It was a fun premise at first but now it's shit because of the power levels, ridiculous names ie ultra instinct and all the bs. Ss4 was bs too like tf oozaru to ss4?
I can see why people didnt like it, I personally like it. But, at least it was original. Not like what theyre doing now with their pallet swaps.
You did yourself a disservice by not playing Raging Blast 2. That game was up there for best DBZ fighting game, with amazing multi battles and crazy opportunities to revisit some of the toughest battles realistically with proper imbalancing against you so you felt the weight of the difficulty. Plus there was attack customization and a cinematic deflect mechanic. Honestly, you should give RB2 a chance. Was not disappointed with it, and it came close to surpassing Tenkaichi 3 as my favorite multiplayer DBZ romp.
Your 100% right
Happy to hear someone else who played Raging Blast 2
Raging Blast Two was my first PS3 game :)
But I told some people who were looking to get RB2 at gamestop that B2 lacked a story mode and its a giant arcade.
@KingOfLegends23 Raging Blast 1 felt like it was more focused on the story. But i honestly think it's good.
I appreciate the Kinect for one reason: it’s how I convinced my parents to buy me a 360 in 6th grade, they assumed the Kinect would help me get exercise.
Austin: Super saiyan 4s design is awful
Me: My Heart....
Here, take this heart medecine. It's bacon flavor.
@@BloodyMaryV it taste like grape
Achilles Productions ツ Same
Ss4 > ssb
@@mikeoxlong9583 AMEN
*_Dont you hecking dare disrespect SSJ4 Goku._*
Rofl ^this dude is literally just copy pasting his shitty -opinion- flame on any comments that don't shun SS4. Also what the fuck is up with that jank ass capitilzation and _terrible_ attempt to look intelligent by sprinkling "big" words throughout in a very forced and clearly ill-educated fashion? Either this is omega troll or you need to hit them damn english books homie.
While I admit SSJ4 is a good form, the series it was in ruined it. Also there is no SSJ4 sprite that is good in this video.
@@HuntressHashi I'm somewhere in the middle but more or less agree. As a kid who loved DBZ and was just ecstatic there was a continuation (I didn't really understand canon/noncanon back then but I'd have still enjoyed it for that reason alone regardless) my memory is pretty absent of bad memories for it. Between seeing some clips sprinkled and just being objective about flaws where they are regardless of my enjoyment for something now that I'm grown, I probably would be bothered by alot if I rewatched I admit.
That said, the moment SSJ4 and not to mention SSJ4 Gogeta/100x Big Bang Kamehameha hit the screen were legendary moments for me and my friends. When Gogeta deflects the final enemies most powerful attack with a single finger, eyes closed, and didn't move an inch- my friends and I were absolutely losing our minds lol.
I choose to keep them in tact instead of ruin them with my adult brain that's realistic and wants continuity because there's slim to zero chance I'll be able to find many shows I love enough to have those level of emotions for without appeasing said brain, at this point in my life. I do think it's a victim of the hate train, but it's definitely not exempt from criticism or absent of things to criticize by far. It had some good idea's and that's what I think is most significant to take away.
Pan will always be annoying as all hell though. That has never been not-true lmao.
@@HuntressHashi Also, soothe your eyes with this one. Someone made it with yarn crocheted on a plastic grid (I think it's yarn) and it's sexier than any digital one I've seen has ever been. It's bootyful
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*Woah there, watch your L A N G U A G E*
Dude, naps are the best. I don't know what you're talking about, I'd rather take a nap than do just about anything.
Ssj4 is better than all of the recolors...
It looks better
True fam
There is like one recoler dude ssj1 thru 3 were the same colors with different designs god was a slimmer form and my personal favorite blue is the only recoler
It's not, though.
When dit he say dat I missed it...
The DBZ CCG did change my life. I won the National Championships in 2003 and was hired by the company that made the game, and later I was hired by FUNimation and got to work on some DBZ stuff. Gave me my start in the entertainment field and I currently work in marketing on some first-party video game titles on console.
Are we getting MGS Remake soon?
And then everyone clapped and cheered
This is amazing ahaha
GT wasn't cancelled. SSJ4 is awesome design.
GT was cancelled though.
Noah Spaulding No it wasn’t. Where did you learn that from?
It's pretty public knowledge. I recommend watching the Geekdom101 video talking about GT as he explains it better than I ever could.
The games are bad because they lack Ultra Instinct Shaggy.
ultra instinct shaggy should be in every fighting game
alex He got killed off in Dragon Ball ZZX
@@E_F4 don't you mean he killed off everyone
KA KA KA KA KACHI DAZE
Shit you right.
“SSJ4 looks bad” aight I’m out
Did you call ssj4 design awful?That's just stupid. I mean ssj4 probably has the best design with the cool looking hair while still adding more than just a simple hair style and color change. Its by far the best form and most creative.
Steven Drake More details does not equate to a good design.
I like God WAY more than SSJ4...but eh. I don’t HATE it.
I just find it inferior. Better than Blue though.
@@xavierparis2789 ss4 is better design than those other power up cheif and unlike the others ss4 is actually a *TRANSFORMATION*
I'm kinda with Xavier on that point. Or rather I hate ss4 in GT because all of GTs designs (especially Vegeta Pan and Trunks )are bad to mediocre at best.
SS4 Xeno Goku though? That's the best
Benny Bluestacks
Gave trunks a bad design? Did you see what they did to him in Super? GT trunks looks leagues above super, especially that tacky green shit bulma put on him.
RajOfColumbus Yeah? Uh...okay. So is Super Saiyan God.
His hair burns red, his eyes become a bit wider and have pupils instead of none like Goku usually has, and most importantly he VISABLY becomes slimmer. That’s a very clear transformation, but doesn’t force Goku into a fur suit with eyeliner.
Again, I don’t hate SSJ4, but I find it inferior to almost every other form not named “Super Saiyan Blue”.
SSJ4 is awful?
Yeah okay.
Your opinion. I don't like SSJ4 either
>Budokai 1 is bad
Already outed yourself as a rube.
Budokai 1 is okay but pales in comparison to its sequels and the BT games.
Take off the nostalgia goggles, it really isn't that good. It's pretty OK at best.
@KingOfLegends23 I dunno, my bro always preferred BT2 instead.
I think Budokai is a good gmae, but i don't think it's aged well.
@@e1iteyoshi998 Yeah, Budokai 1's aged worse than milk.
2:04 Also, DBZ aired on some independent stations in the US (KCAL-TV in LA included).
Dragon ball GT isn’t as bad as Dragonball Evolution
Polverine74 That isn’t really saying much tbh.
Crono Sapien yeah you’re probably right 😔
To me GT is a alright okay anime
GT is an anime that had a lot of great ideas, but they weren't fully executed.
Super really isn't all that much better than GT.
I love SSJ4's design. It's one of the VERY few things I actually liked from GT
Am I the only one who thinks the Super Saiyan 4 design is cool tho? It feels a lot more creative than just Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan or even Super Saiyan 3, I like the concept of "conquering the Great Ape form", and the hybrid look for what in GT was supposed to be the "definitive Super Saiyan form"
AlexTenThousand Yeah I definitely like the design of the form. It’s just a shame that Goku was borderline useless in GT outside of it.
No trust me alot of people like the ss4 design
AlexTenThousand Yeah, I definitely agree with you there.
I also hated how Vegeta went SSJ4 by using this machine that Bulma made, ‘cause the real prince Vegeta wouldn’t just throw away his pride to reach a form that Goku attained on his own.
At least we got SSJ4 Gogeta out of it, who is *badass.*
you are never the only one
The problem is that Vegeta had conquered the Great Ape form all the way back in the Saiyan saga because he was in full control. So it makes no sense for SS4 to be that when someone already had done it.
Omg Taiketsu, that game almost broke me as a kid. It was the first time I really understood that companies would actually put out garbage products to make a quick buck
As a Yamcha apologist I appreciated your sentiments. Thank you Austin.
It’s nice to know I’m not alone
He's great! Bandages is a lie!
The idea that there are apologists for Yamcha is weird.
Ain't like he's a controversial character.
I mean not in the traditional sense no, but I still encounter a lot of people who make dated jokes about 'Yamcha's so weak lel' or whatever.
@@rej3ktstudios986 Yeah, he became kind of a meme as 'the loser', which is honestly baffling to me.
Dude is am multi-millionaire baseball player, he ACTUALLY uses his abilities for monetary gain, he's probably the smartest dude there.
Just because FighterZ is the most recent doesn't mean it's the first good Dragon Ball fighter. The Budokai series was fantastic and was essentially Dragon Ball Tekken. The true reason why fighterz is so fucking awesome is because it uses the MvC3 gameplay formula
I got Taiketsu for Christmas the year it came out. And immediately, 12 year old regretted being born.
Omg I had completely pushed this game out of my memory till now. Being a poor kid was rough... Im sure I nearly 100%'d this piece of garbage out of necessity. God was it bad
I recently played the game and good god it is horrible. Like top 5 worst games I have ever played.
GT saying it's a cult hit is probably because, like every other Dragon Ball thing, it was really popular in Latin America.
You know, despite it being absolute trash
*says the SS4 design is awful* Give it credit for at least not being a recolor.
Kaioken.
@@megagustman thats a move not a form
*+painhellemental 9000* Oh come on, really!. Even then, it is still a Goku recolor, nothing more. So if people are gonna shit at the Blue transformation for being a recolor I can do the same with the Kaioken.
freeza 2nd form: the same thing as the first form but bigger and with bull horns
3rd form: same as the 1st form but with hydrocephalus
Or don't give it credit as it made no goddamn sense as a Saiyan transformation.
What SS4 was the best looking transformation in DBZ history right next to Ultra Instinct Omen(because full UI is kinda bad)
Play raging blast 2 its way better than the first one
Ikr
If they added more in rb2 and kept it good or made another one that was good i could stand to see it once more for old times sake
@@Dabajaws they did
@@blgdoesthings4122 No...they didn't...
@@Kezzex if I remember correctly rb2 added a lot of shit
I hate when someone says SS4 is a bad design but thinks a Super Saiyan recolor is a good design.
DBZ Sagas.
Just...all of it.
What’s even worse is that for a long time, it was the *only* DBZ game for Xbox. So if you were an Xbox player and a DBZ fan, that’s essentially all you had!
And I was never the biggest fan of Raging Blast either. To me it just felt like bootleg Budokai Tenkaichi, and it’s safe to say that I just stuck with that instead.
Dragonball z Ultimate tenkaichi. Worst dbz game in history. nuff said.
Raging blast 2 had alot but didn't know what to do with it most of the time
@Felipe M. Ultimate tenkaichi was a rock, paper scissors type of gameplay.
The music for that game was badass
My favorite DBZ game is still Budokai Tenkaichi 2
I know it's off topic, but the fact that you mentioned "No one can stop Mr. Domino" is worth a subscribe in my book.
Super Saiyan 4 > Super Saiyan Blue
@Shaggy Blanco
And SSJB Goku is called SSJ1 Goku colored blue in paint
Say it louder for the people in the back please
No, it's more like this:
MUI > SSJG > SSJB > SSJ3 > SSJ4
Not stronger though
@@vlinnstone6919 That's just SSJ4 > SSJ3 > SSJB > SSJG > MUI backwards
The dbz taiketzu models kinda looked like robot chicken characters
Despite those terrible DBZ games, their 2D intros are still awesome! Haha
3:30 Misspelled Buu Lmao
Za Fishy it isn’t misspelled
That's how it would be spelled if Disney wasn't always towering over everyone, breathing mach 5 winds down their necks and staring into their souls without eye contact. They sued a daycare, don't think for a second they wouldn't go after Shonen Jump or Funimation.
I swear only halfway into this video and I have a feeling that a lot of Dragonball fans are going to disagree with most of your picks and your opinion heavily.
I already feel that way when he started trashing on Final Bout. Yes, it was not a good game but I like some of it's mechanics (Meteor strike combos) and fighting Oozaru Baby was one of the best thing that game has to offer.
Ye I kinda hate this guys guts
Final Bout is way overhated. It was the FIRST 3D Dragon Ball game and had things that even more recent games sometimes lack, like beam struggles and tournaments. And Meteor system was unique.
I stopped when he said their wasn't any Super Saiyans in the game which is a lie. There's Super and Super Saiyan forms of Little Goku, Goku, and Trunks. And there's Super forms of Vegeta and Vegetto which showed he was talking out his ass
@@orochiken7453 I Think He Ment The Intro
Ssj4 is the best looking transformation in the series m8
24:40: No, they didn't. If Spike Chunsoft really tried their best they would have created a new game from the ground up with the Kinect's control scheme in mind. They didn't do that. DBZ for Kinect is just an incomplete port of Ultimate Tenkaichi with a first-person POV and a control scheme that wasn't intended for it.
11:11 rip 2014 :(
Did you just say that GT was cancelled? It got an actual ending. It was a shit show of an anime with only a handful of good ideas such as how cool Super Saiyan 4 looked, the idea of a villainous Tuffle wanting revenge for what the Saiyans did to his planet (though, Baby was just evil for the sake of being evil), and the idea that overusing the Dragon Balls could lead to disastrous results. Also, Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 had something like... over 300 playable characters. Granted, a good chunk of them were just different forms and alternate versions of other characters but it still had a butt load of characters that reached over 100, at the very least, if you don't want to count the transformations and alternate versions of other characters. Also, I feel that if Webfoot got the chance to make another fighting game or beat 'em up, they could have pulled a Legacy of Goku and made something pretty alright with the sequels. I mean, Legacy of Goku was so shitty that you wouldn't imagine that they would ever make a sequel... but they did. And it was pretty good, as you're already well aware. So, personally, despite Dragon Ball Z: Taiketsu and Dragon Ball GT: Transformation being absolute shit shows, I would have liked to see sequels to them and see how they could improve since... well... there's no way the sequels could end up being worse.
Right?
@@hereticX67 There wasn't really a point to any other of the forms either. It should've just stayed at SSJ, but since GT was a new thing back then I guess they wanted to add something different. The design looks fine off the bat but from other conversations I had, the color choices don't seem to make sense but honestly I'm not sure what other colors the fur would work with.
I imagine brown fur looking weird with black hair, the only one to pull that off was SSJ4 gogeta since the colors of the fur and hair were switched.
It’s weird seeing your hair all one color
SSJ4 was probably the best thing that ever happened since DBZ ended. Ultra Instinct? Super Saiyan Blue? SUper Saiyan God? All just recolors!
SSJ4 was original, it was also throwing Goku back to his Roots, the Saiyans original Source of Power, his tail and the Oozaru transformation, And it was god damn cool!
People can say to me what they want about GT, but SSJ4 Goku is an awesome design, ties nicely to the Saiyans Origins and it was just badass!
Aaaaand no, Final Bout is NOT worse than UB22, NOT EVEN CLOSE! It is bad, but not horrible bad!
ultra instinct is probably the best thing from super ui sign atleast
@@hypenerd6062 not saying UI was bad, it was just unoriginal and from the looks it was just Base Goku with grey eyes and SLIGHTLY spiker hair. And Mastered version the same, just with white hair.
GT Designs in general I prefer over most things from Super. every being on their space Journey looked unique, some more, some less, but still. Baby had a interesting Design. You can say he was Prototype Goku Black, just called Vegeta Black. He was Baby inside Vegetas Body, like Zamasu being inside Gokus body (just how they got into said bodys was different), and much like Goku Black, Baby Vegeta, at first, looked just like Vegeta (just with some marks on eyes and face, and white hair), but the more he made this body his own, the more different it looked, until it had a completely unique design that not even resembling Vegeta anymore. Unlike Goku Black, who looked like from beginning to end =/ And Babys Design and his evolution was also good and interesting. Same for the Shadow Dragons, each look different (Well except Nova and Ice of course), have different Characters and even while some of them where just throwaway villains of the week, they were still interesting and what they can do and what personality they have.
I say only Super 17 was kinda meh, but I can't say I hate him. Compare this with 90% of the Super Cast, and you will see that most of them are plain and boring looking, or just ripoffs of other Characters. Cabba is looking like Tarble, Vegetas Brother, with a different face. Forst is pretty much Freezer 2.0 but without his awesome personality, Botamo is discount Winnieh the Pooh and Magetta is actually nice! His Design and his Abilitys are quite nice, and he reminds me of some Chrono Trigger Designs, which is always good! But they did not much with him, tough what they did I liked. Hit looks kinda plain and simple, but for him that works, since that is his whole schtick. He is a assassin, hired to murder, he is not supposed to look fancy and unique, he is supposed to look plain and simple to blend in and not draw needless attention. So he gets a pass! ALso he was one of the more interesting characters, and especially since he is an assassin, his mysterious Character and Abilitys are deserved and it actually compliments him that we don't know too much about him. Sadly, he got ruined in STUPID Filler Episode, when Goku hired him to kill Goku himself, and they kinda nerfed his whole ability and stuff. The Universal tournament just put the nail in the coffin for him. Awesome Character, terribly wasted.
Caulifla and Kale are also just boring designs. Especially Caulifla, who looks just like Buff Trunks Hair put on Little Girl with the WORST possible Personality you could have given to her. Kale is even worse. I like her base design, still way too small for my taste (I mean, for being Saiyans, even if it is alternate universe ones, they look NOTHING like Saiyans at all!), but overall not as plain and boring as caulifla, but then she goes Berserk and it is female Broly... LITERALLY BROLY WITH TITS! I facepalmed so hard at this. And let us not talk about the fusion. some Nice scenes, but that was it. The Manga handled at least Kale a little better, showing that in terms of skill, she is actually not behind the other warriors, and in fact, might even surpass them, especially in speed. Also her Character and transformation made more sense in the context of the manga.
And no, I won't get into the pride troopers... and certainly not Jiren.
@@NeroDeAngelo dont get me wrong ssj4 looks far better than the forms in super but by super standards ultra instinct sign is probably most unique looking
i think frieza said it best, Super Saiyan with blue hair dye lol it really is just lazy, GT may have been not all that good but some designs we're epic. and Ss4 is exactly that.
I agree minus ultra instict part. UI is actually just as good (not counting MUI that one looks like shit)
Webfoot are still around. They even tried to get a Legacy of Goku remake off the ground.
2:53 wtf you called SS4 awful, It's way better than SS Blue and in my opinion one of the best transformation's in Dragon Ball, They have to master their oozaru form to archive that form and it's basically their true SS form.
ssj4 design the best since ssj3, all this god stuff is just boring and lazy..
Ironically SSJ4 looks more like a Saiyan god more than any of the Super transformations.
@@uncensored008 hahah tru
@Shaggy Blanco can't be a furry if you're not always in a suit
@@Dabajaws just for ya to know. Being a furry is about art and not suits
That's because you're ignorant. Go and search up why Akira created the SSJG form(s). It's interesting, and far better than SSJ4.
I owned all of these games at one point in my life and must have repressed the memories. It all came back watching this.
DBZ Budokai 1 was one of my favorite games growing up.
I loved the story, and to this day I still think it should have ended at Cell.
While I didn't care too much for the gameplay, I did like the skill customization. And briefly stunning your opponent by transforming in front of them never got old.
Ssj4 is cool af bro. You trippin lol. And raging blast was fun af. Also got ended. It wasn’t cancelled. Omega Shenron last saga
Hey Austin. I love the video! I did notice a few misconceptions though.
Battle of Z and Zenkai Battle/Royale are two completely separate games by two different devs. Zenkai Battle plays more like J-Stars, while BoZ was a (terrible) tactile battle game.
Also, Zenkai Battle Royale was the original title, and received an update in 2015 to the current title of Zenkai Battle.
Thanks for the awesome content!
Lmaoooo ssj4 is bad design? You prolly like Blue and think its original and pushes the lore 😂😂😂😂
Suburban Trash you got a problem with somebody having an opinion
But it does, though. Haven't you heard Akira talk about Blue? Geez go and educate yourself.
@@vlinnstone6919 blue is a recolor
Did anyone else own a bunch of the DBZ cards as a kid, but have no idea how the fuck to play it? I even had a friend show me back then and I just found it really confusing. Yet I was super into Yu Gi Oh.
Literally the same except never even had a chance to play the dbz card game lol.
Wait, *THERE WAS CROSSOVER GAME BETWEEN ACCEL WORLD AND SAO? HOW AM I JUST NOW LEARNING OF THIS?!*
I NEED IT
I loved super Saiyan 4 still do but what do you think is so bad about it?
stop talking shit I just think it’s too cluttered, as someone who sees simplicity as VERY important for a design. Throwing too much onto a design hurts the eyes, and makes it hard to appreciate.
Doing more with less is what I love. It’s why I love original Super Saiyan and God so much.
@@xavierparis2789 super Saiyan 4 is not really that complex in details Black hair, red fur and a red tail that's all really
@@xavierparis2789 You just called ssj4 cluttered? How tf
Stephen Carter Compare it to Super Saiyan for a second. All it did was make his hair spikier and turn his hair gold, and give his eyes a new tint. That was it. It was simple and appealing.
SSJ4 has their hair grow, change into some random color (why is Vegeta’s hair brown? WHY IS GOGETA’S RED?!), coat their body in red fur, obviously they have their tail change too, they get this weird eye outline, their eyes turn orange, their shirt is popped off...that’s way more detail than we need. It’s CLUTTERED.
Xavier Paris SSJ4 is a bit big in terms of design, but it is NOWHERE near cluttered. Literally the only major changes are long hair, red fur, eyes, tail.
It’s a callback to what the Saiyans *were*. Humans with monkey attributes (tails, oozaru, etc.) not godlike beings who can destroy planets like it’s a LEGO set.
"ssj4 is a terrible design"
incredible every word you said was wrong
Battle of Z wasn't based on Zenkai, they just wanted to incorporate a team play element. Battle of Z wasn't even a port of anything. What the hell are you on about?
Zenkai is derived from the Tenkaichi/Gundam VS series.
Battle of Z wasn't at all trying to be Gundam Vs. or even Zenkai. It had more of a moba-like feel where you take on specific roles and play to a team. It was all in all crushed by horrific character balance though. Broly one swiping everyone lmao.
I actually feel like because of the development time surrounding Zenkai that whole Ultimate Tenkaichi thing happened.
Yo,I didn't even notice what you said, Zenkai Battle Royale was the first itteration of Zenkai Battle.
It came out in 2011, it was a 4 player free for all game that had an event for a 2 v 2 game mode which became the most played mode in the game. Eventually leading to the team adding mechanics specifically for the 2 v 2 experience in 2015 when they renamed it to Zenkai Battle. Please get correct information.
Oh no! That little misinformation about a Japanese game none of us will ever play affects his opinion or points about Battle of Z. Internet probably fucked that up lol and dude battle of Z is literally Gundam VS but not as good so I don't know what you're talking about in that regard.
Battle of Z feeling like a moba??? Have you ever played a moba? Yikes. It's about as far away from a moba as you could possibly be. If youre talking about a multiplayer BRAWLER, I can agree. Does Battle of Z have minions and lanes and pushing and tower and all that jazz? No you go in an arena and fight, like what?
@@RekashalGames MOBA is an acronym for Multiplayer Online Battle Arena.... Minions are not a necessity for the genre. The arche-type is team play by META, in BoZ you have Melee, ranged, and support type characters and the game tells you as such, It's a MOBA. There's not a single mechanic in BoZ that translates to or from Gundam VS.
Gundam Vs you are constantly pulled to the ground and must use boosting and hopping to move your character you have 5 melee attacks rainbow steps, shot cancelling, etc I could go on.
Battle of Z was not trying to be Gundam and its silly to think that it was with the way it pushes you to play.
You can see the clear difference when you compare Zenkai to Gundam VS how you can pick from the elements.
Zenkai and Gundam VS both force the player in the air to the ground. The only difference is Zenkai stops the player from decending if an input is being read. BOZ however does none of this.
In BoZ you can target your teammate to feed them energy so they don't get tired, and put at a major disadvantage, In BOZ you get a reward for simply meleeing the same person that your team mate is hitting, and you have Chase follow ups, that reward the team for responding to them by giving them a larger Ki pool. I could go on.
Case and point is.
Not every game with a Lock-On and a behind the back camera is trying to be Gundam Vs jfc.
and a Multiplayer Brawler is Anarchy Reigns, that game does not force roles onto characters and gives you large stages to fight in.
Also no one said a damn thing about his opinion on BoZ the fact that he still provided incorrect information on Zenkai Battle isn't changed by his damn opinion.
2:55 i think i never heard someone talk bad about super sayan 4 goku design ever
Raging Blast 2 was that good shit for me back in the day I always wanted to try the tenkaichi games but never really did since at the time my ass received a 360 and the ps2 was becoming a thing of the past so when I saw trailers for this raging blast 2 I knew I had to have it and while it may not be as great as the tenkaichi games since to this day I haven’t really tried them idc since I’m grateful for the memories I received from it wether it be by completing every characters story or me and my siblings beating each others asses in multiplayer ohh and this is one of the first/few games I actually 100% completed that’s how addicting it was for me!!.....fuck ultimate tenkaichi though that was a total disappointment and a waste of a title
Daddy Robin if Raging Blast 2 had a story mode and GT characters, it would be the best DBZ arena brawler with the exception of ZBR
@@Zaylovesu2 it already is
Fiinix 24 i’d say Tenkaichi Tag Team is
I had raging blast as as a kid never knew it was bad
He just shat on THE GT RAP you lost a subscriber
STEP INTO THE GRAND TOUR
@@austineruption its not that bad bruh, you were kinda over exaggerating but it's your channel.
funny thing I watched Gt Dubbed with a dubbed translation of the Japanese opening on dvd and wondered why did america decide tio go with Goku gangsta rap
@@IllMatic97 'not that bad' it was worse than the Pokerap. POKERAP
Lol, why'd I always think, "STEP INTO THE BATHROOM"
Y-Ou listen here Austin, Dragon Ball Trading Card game saved my life when my evil step-grandmother made sure it was hell, whenever I felt bad, i would always listen to the same theme played over and over again and i'd be immediately calm!!!!1!!!!
4:35 Ah yes, the best kind of mashing.
How can he say Budokai was bad like that???😢😢😢
I LOVED GT Transformation! Actually had a blast with it as a kid and still enjoy it to this day. (I also used the health restore cheat code lol)
Finally, I have found my brethren
@@toonandy2189 I know right? 😂🙌🏻
@@rukus7661 hello brethren 🙌🏻
Two words: Dragon Evolution, that game made even Satan himself gasp from its pure evilness
Budokai was my childhood lol. I personally liked it due to its simplicity and overall art style. The what if missions were really cool too
Next TH-camr scandal is going to be Austin hiding his affair with SAO.
I love DB Online, fight me Austin.
I remember playing Final Bout. I rented it from the grocery store and mashed buttons. Eventually, I got tired of mashing and busted out my 'player 2 turbo' controller for those beam battles... I still lost against the computer
Dragon Ball Z CCG is the best Dragon Ball game. It has depth like no other game so get your Phantasy Star Online lookin ass out, Texas boy....I hope I got your attention.
...I love how the comment is liked even though I fucked the sentence up with "looking ass" instead of "loving ass". Anyway, you liking the comment made my day.
Tbh I feel like Xenoverse 2 should be in here. While there are good things about it, there are things wrong with it. The AI are just retarded enemy or teammate, the NET code is pretty bad (Which makes the pvp annoying), some DLCs suck (like Music Pack 1), lack of new customization for your avatar, the lip-sync in cutscenes(not in-game) are too cringy to see, and etc.
2:55 hold your horses. Ssj4 is straight up one of the best looking transformations in the entire franchise. If you want to see a bad design for a ssj form, look at ssj blue
No. The only good part of SSJ4 was when SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta fused into SSJ4 Gogeta, and SSGSS Vegito is overpowered, but that's what you get when the 2 strongest warriors in the series fuse together. And you call yourself an "enthusiast", of Dragon Ball Z? No way. You're no enthusiast. You seem like a snob or a troll to me. Can't you just accept that people out there like SSJ4, hate SSJ4, like SSGSS, and hate SSGSS Blue, and their fusions?
@@shawnfields2369 says the geeza with a crappy opinion but ok
@@dbzenthusiast8152 Great, nice talking to you too.
@@shawnfields2369 oh my days, well if you wanna start a debate over it, then I’m down
@@dbzenthusiast8152 But I do want to say sorry about the whole saying you're NOT an enthusiast thing a few minutes ago. I think I just let my own love of the entire DB series blind me there for a minute. But I genuinely don't hate the SS Blue Super Saiyan designs. And while i love the entire franchise, it's not 100% perfect, but it is pretty close. I mean, I grew up with it when it was syndicated on Toonami in 2004, when I was only 10 or 11 at the time(I'm 28 now),it was great. And I did have a like/hate relationship with GT for a while, because of how it tried to repeat actual arcs from DBZ, instead of being it's own thing; but when it got cancelled, after only 64 episodes, I began thinking, maybe GT was unfairly criticized. But the villains did have good backstories. Like Baby wanting revenge against the Saiyans because they eradicated the Tuffles and their planet, so they combined the Red Ribbon Army's revenge against Goku, and added another layer to it, by having Baby win by literally controlling the entire planet. Scary stuff. I mean; Baby was consumed by his own hatred for the Saiyan Race. But that arc did have Hercule and Majin Buu trying to help save the earth, and Goku having to fight all alone, which was hard to see, seeing Goten, Gohan, Trunks, all kicking the crap out of Goku, was hard to watch. But after thinking about it and seeing the best GT villains make their way into Dragon Ball FighterZ(Baby Vegeta, Super 17, Omega Shenron), yeah, I mean I did like their characters, even if they do seem like repeats of other DB or DBZ villains, those 3 are some of the best villains Dragon Ball has had, because Baby Vegeta actually mind controlled the entire planet, and destroyed it, Omega Shenron beat everybody and made Goku and the others realize that they relied WAY too heavily on the Dragon Balls, and needed to solve their own problems, without them, and Super 17 was just the conclusion to the Red Ribbon Army stuff, from the original Dragon Ball. And again, sorry if I crossed a line or touched a nerve by saying you're not an enthusiast or anything like that. I mean, I genuinely do like the designs of all the SSJ versions of Goku and Vegeta, I just wish Trunks or Gohan had one, you know? And I definitely wish that Trunks would've gotten his sword repaired too... I mean, Tapion gave him that sword because he reminded him of his brother, and Trunks cut down Mecha Frieza, King Cold, and the last remnants of Frieza's Army with that sword. And, I mean, Future Trunks and Gohan are 2 of my favorite DBZ characters, so you know, a little SSJ4 or SSGSS designs for them would've been nice too...
Oh my god, I totally forgot about Taiketsu... I'm gonna go get hammered so I can forget again.
"Have you ever heard of ArtDink?"
Me: Yeah, actually... I just don't remember wher-- OH. FOSSIL FIGHTERS.
I WAS WONDERING WHY I RECOGNIZED THEM
Developers really didnt know how to use the kinect. Too much knowledge required to have the rights poses and movement. It has great use on pc. I'll only get a Kinect for PC. Mostly not for games though lol.
2:52 Imo, ssj4 was one of the best transformations, looked cool and had a awesome transformation (hell, even enjoyed gt)
far better than super and how there were 7 forms that only changed color/aura and just come out of nowhere honestly
As a child I 100% completed GT Transformation and I still have the working Game Boy cart with my save file. That game was my shit for a year or two.
Yes, I was very sad and poor, why do you ask?
The comment section is gonna be fun.
4:48 don´t get me wrong, the game is not great, BUT, your argument is just "i am bad in the game, so... it sucks" , and THIS IS NOT A GOOD POINT.
Budakai 3 will forever be the best i hated raging blast as well havent played a dbz game since budakai 3
You hated Raging Blast but haven't played a Dragonball game since Budokai 3? So you never even tried Raging Blast but still hate it? Either you aren't making sense or you are too stupid to have your own opinions and just go along with other people say.
You: "Anyone ever heard of ArtDink?"
Me: "Are you about to mention Fossil Fighters in a Dragon Ball Z video?"
19:07 I love, L O O O V E, moist towelettes
I look away from the screen and all I hear is this moment: 5:46
Now I'm very confused thinking, what are you calling me out for Austin. What did I do to you?
I'm joking of course. But still took me by surprise when I heard the name Jesse.
Is it bad that I love Raging Blast? It was the only Dragon Ball game I got to play and loved the controls. I now own Xenoverse 2 and FighterZ but, Raging Blast still has a special place in my heart.
Bupiest Boi it’s not bad, as long as you didn’t like Taiketsu you’re good because that game was hot trash
@@LeMuDX Never played it, it sounds pretty bad though, so I probably won't try it.
Bupiest Boi good don’t waste your time on it
@@SomeboodyIusedtoknow It was basicially a portable fighting game with horrible graphics, bad controls, and pretty bad everything.
"So, should I clean the trash of the universe?" I loved Final Bout's Jack Nicholson Piccolo as a kid 😂😂
DBGT wasn't cancelled, in fact it was supposed to end after the Baby Saga so yeah
Igneeka because it got cancelled
@@Luisreza12 What ? It wasn't cancelled, it was supposed to end with the Baby saga but they added two more arcs
Source?
@@Igneeka Not responding are you? Are you silently admitting to being full of crap by not responding to my request for a source?
@@AidGum Wow wow no I looked it up yesterday for a few minutes don't worry but forgot to respond, what I said came from the DBWiki dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT but I couldn't find anything in the sources (hell half of it is either a dead link or things I can't find translated online)
So yeah it looks like I was wrong, after reading the kanzenshuu however there's also nothing said about it being cancelled and it appeared that it was pretty popular at the time, somehow (www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ if you want to check)
So yeah no "end during Baby saga" stuff but it wasn't cancelled either
Me staying in the room jamming out to Step Into The Grand Tour:
Raging Blast is honestly just like BT.
Raging blast 2 was god damn amazing. You should have played it. And also, ssj4 having bad design? Get the hell outa here. Also I think maybe you should give GT a chance it wasn't an amazing anime but, I really loved it as a kid.
yeah I left after he shat on Budokai lol
This dude really just said that SS4 was a bad desing and that raging blast was a horrible game? I know it's just your opinion but how can you get so many things wrong? XD
Woah. The nostalgia is too real right here. The first Budokai was truly not very good, but I remember pouring so many hours into it for some reason. Damn. Brings me back.
18:11 Dragon Ball AF? You mean Dragon Ball AFTER FUTURE?
Please do a video on Gundam games or Super Robot Wars (The new one has cowboy bebop in it)
SSJ1: Blond Vegeta Hair
SSJ2: It's Electric
SSJ3: Raditz hair and no eyebrows
SSJG: It's alright.
SSJGSS: A recolor
SSJRosè: Another recolor.
UI: The white hair ruins go back
SSJ4: Remove the eye liner
I personally liked db online
I sweat to God I thought Taiketsu was just a nightmare like Marvel Rise of the Imperfects guess I was wrong
Marvel rise of the imperfects had potential
Raging Blast 2 was incredibly fun. You could even main characters and change their movesets/equipables/ect. it was a lot of fun.
DBZ Legends would actually be the first game to have the DB simulator-esque feel long before the BT series came about. Too bad they didn't bother localizing that one over UB22 and Final Bout.
Also, Battle of Z has little to do with Zenkai Battle Royale. It features a similar team-based style of gameplay, but it is not a port in anyway. It's a completely different title made from scratch specifically for PS3/Vita and Xbox 360.