Brand new Ninja 400 destroyed clutch
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This aged well lol. Glad to see this get resolved. I just got my first ninja 400 the other day. Saying I'm "excited" would be an understatement..
I wanted a stiffer clutch feel. Solution for me was adding a spring to the clutch linkage. I bought the spring at Lowe's for like 2 bucks.
Sorry to hear about it snapping, sounds frustrating. Cool bike. I understand you wanted a tighter clutch set up. As a note, my 2008 Ninja 250R is thankfully still going at over 35,000 miles with the original clutch set up, and still has the original chain (WD40 every time back) and engine. Only mod was a new exhaust and a frame skid bar.
I just turned 18 earlier this year getting out of high school soon and decided to buy a new 400 for the summer I’m excited getting the money and deciding on gear for now!
If you are watching this video and you snap a screw, you DID NOT DESTROY YOUR CLUTCH. Take the head of the snapped screw and insert it where the stuck bolt it and you should be able to free the snapped screw. Ace hardware carries the exact screw so if you live close to one you can pick it up and fix the problem without ordering a new clutch basket
Dude I did the same exact thing, I was able to get it out with one of those extractors. Worked perfect
that's what I was thinking as well.
Okay, so this was user error, not the torque wrench failing. If you look at the first bolt being tightened, you can see the torque wrench break and then he pushes wayyyyy past it. in-lb Torque wrenches require a few fingers to use, not your whole shoulder. That is why the bolt broke, not because of some faulty torque wrench. I speak from experience, having done this myself on a customer's vehicle while torquing a valve cover while working as an automotive technician.
A few fingers??😂😂😂😂 this guy. What are you wrenching with a straw lol?
@@HardcityRaindrops I’m serious. Slow down the first few frames of wrenching on the first bolt, you’ll see the slight break in the torque wrench before you even move your shoulder. You’ll see it, I promise.
Also, not to put too fine a point on it, you obviously don’t know what 100 in-lb feels like, else you wouldn’t have put your fucking whole shoulder behind a 1/4” torque wrench.
This is spot on! inch pound screws are typically pretty delicate. I try to use the smallest wrench possible to tighten bolts like that. Allowing me to "feel" the resistance before I ever apply enough force to snap the bolt. Generally speaking the bigger the lever/wrench, the harder it will be to feel the resistance of the bolt tightening past its threshold.
Sorry to hear about snapped bolt. Just fyi.. German manufacture recommend replacing aluminum bolts every time you open them because these bolts stretch. Snapped a bolt in my Mercedes e500 when swapping a valve gasket. Had to drill it out.
I snapped two bolts in the clutch hub. All I did was remove the hub drill a partial hole in the bolt and thread it out with a pick or tap and dye set
Change my clutch springs. Used a Auto zone inch lb on My Kawasaki z 400 2022. Not a problem. Best oil is Amzoil. Went from dealership 48 mpg to 54 & now i get 59 mpg.
Thanks for the video man, keep doing what you're doing and I respect a person who admits when they are wrong, that's is how we learn. Good job man!
😢man thank you for this my heart hurts for you and I would be piss off to, I just bought my ninja 400 2023 a few weeks ago and it’s my first bike. Hopefully your still riding.
Inlb torque wrenches don't really click, they just kinda give a little. Watching that part of the video, you were already past your torque setting when you put the wrench on it. If you watch the first bolt the torque wrench gave (clicked) when you first engaged it and you pushed it another quarter turn.
Sorry to hear that. I changed mines on my 2021 the first week I got it back from the dealership and I was lucky they stood in.
Drill a hole in the bolt and use an easy out. There is no pressure on the broken threads, may be able to use a small magnet and turn it out.
I don’t have all my stuff for that here, I’ll try to do that later after I get the new one
I have never used a torque wrench, I'm old school, I have a feel for it.
Now as for this situation, you might have had a bad bolt, that didn't require much torque to snap?
Bummer. I hope you get it squared away quickly so you can enjoy your bike sooner than later. And what a fun bike it is! I just bought one 2 weeks ago thanks to the info from channels like yours, and I couldn't be happier with it. Good luck!
I appreciate you showing these things 👍.
I'm new to your channel, but saving up for one now. would be my first road bike. keep up the good work man!
Appreciate the information. Here in my country we do not use torque wrenches. We just do it by feel
That’s not the country bud that’s the mechanic and it’s not the right way to do it.
@@HardcityRaindrops have you tried contacting kawasaki about it? Since the information is from them
Use a bolt extraction kit. I had that happen to me and I was able to fix it later that day.
I wonder if could it be you went to fast while torque? Maybe it suppose to go very slowly , just a thought 🤔excellent video tho
Wow dude that same thing just happened to me while i was changing out my clutch springs on my 2018 ninja 400, wish i had seen this video. I was able to remove the remaining part of the screw that was stuck in the clutch hub. Unfortunately though, took the clutch plates out, i kept them in order. But after i put it all back together and turned it on, my clutch won’t fully disengage when pulled in, in gear. I still have yet to figure out why. Really sucks
You have the pull rod and bearing in backwards then take another look at that the pull rod goes in last.
Sucks man! Hope you’re back up and running quick!
Sometimes mine will slip if I really twist the throttle in 5th gear. Would the springs help with that?
Definitely the torque wrench. We torque flight helmet screws to 60 in oz and is nowhere the amount of force you were using.
Happen to me first 9days of riding. Same bike. It was my fault. I was riding around NYC all day like in 3 or 4th gear without down shifting to 1st or neutral at red lights and stop signs. 700 bucks later to fix it and now I know better
To fix what? I didn’t burn my clutch lol
@@HardcityRaindrops my fault I meant I burned my clutch.
funny how people always tout how good ninja is .... i have never seen a 2000s or 2010s ninja on the street in my life but Honda bike, i do.
Appreciate the Warning.👍🏽
Can u drill a small hole in the shank of the bolt and use an easy out to remove the piece inside of the clutch?
Aww man!! You took a L so others won't!! Dope video dog.
Out of curiousity were those the original bolts or they came with a kit? I noticed they look like the cheaper pot metal/sintered metal parts and not the shinier bolts made of stainless etc. I’m just really curious now, and if they came with a kit I want to be sure I test them first so I will probably drill and thread a hole in a scrap block just to check they’re not going to snap under the spec. Anyway lmk what company the bolts came from if you don’t mind. Thanks man, and good on you for posting this, happens to the best of us.
My man, I've changed many, many clutches. There is a way to use the torque wrench, I believe you need some practice w the tool. Good luck.
OK then clutch master. What does the amount of clutches you’ve done have to do with using a torque wrench? Absolutely nothing. I need one that clicks like it should.
@@HardcityRaindrops Make me laugh. I'm gonna adopt this name: "Pollo The Clutch Master." Don't forget the practice with your torque wrench, Mr. Too Much Torqueee.
@@HardcityRaindrops you said you set the torque wrench to 89 inch pounds of torque. I thought that from watching other videos that the correct measurement is 81 inch pounds of torque? And yes, that does look like a torque wrench from the last century. I should know I am from the last century😂. Don’t they have digital torque wrenches now? back in ancient times, we just put washers behind the springs to beef them up and call it a day. just like sticking certain lengths of broom handles in the forks to make them stiffer.K.I.S.S… by the way thank you for your videos any information is helpful
7:22 bro thats my worse nightmare
100ft pounds seems like too much considering the wheels on vehicles typically tightened to 81 foot pounds
Its foot inches not ft lbs
Inch pounds, not foot inches lol
thats a bumber dude...id be so pissed....ive had luck getting broken bolts out with easouts....nothing that small but it might be worth a shot...and on your vacation too....nobody values your time nowadays....stay safe and keep the vids coming.
This happened to me aswell
That’s crazy man! Hopefully you get reimbursed!
Damn, sorry that happened to you. My bike has 350 miles so far. At 500 I'm putting Barnett clutch springs in. Wasn't planning on torque wrenching it on and definitely won't now.
I already got the bolt out I just did a update
Just buy a quality tool that one was junk I recommend you Torque those bolts to spec. You can also check you Torque wrench before you use it
Easy out ❤
You scared me with that title I thought your clutch took a shit while riding but im.sorry either way man hopefully u get it fixed soon
It’s all I got the bolt out
That seems like crap bolts not so much the torque wrench. That would be a wildly flawed torque wrench. This has been happening a lot lately with parts. Even camshafts have been crap quality in some cases. Like insane errors you’d never expect. I’ve not seen that in tools but I’ve seen it in parts like crazy
Define “the older ones” please. What years.
Great share! Sorry that happened man.
What was the part name u had it to replace i had the same thing happen to me
I didn’t replace anything. I got the bolt out with a pic.
this is scary bro
I know this pain. FML
I wonder if it is worth getting 3 new bolts everytime?
Maybe I have a Ducati now I’m not messing with it’s clutch 😂
@@HardcityRaindrops Nice - My first bike was a Ducati. Fun machines!
Can you make replacement video too?
I fixed it
@@HardcityRaindrops oh nice! Did you drill out the bolt or replaced clutch?
@@jayp7235 I picked it out with a small screwdrive, still need a new bolt, I’ll try to get one tomorrow I ordered 3 from Kawasaki but they won’t be in till Wednesday.
Are you going to put sliders on your bike soon?
Probably not
just use a tap and die to remove the bolt that snapped
“Supposed to be an easy job” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 is this you first time doing your own mechanic work??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I don’t see how you comment has any relevance to anything, Fucking dumb ass typical comment thinks that to be a mechanic everything goes perfect every time, do something with yourself.
@@HardcityRaindrops dude chill 🤣🤣🤣🤣 what I’m saying is that, it’s never as easy as it’s supposed to be. You should really take some time to do some self reflection and figure out why a simple comment aggravates you so badly.
Especially when you go off on one of your viewers.
Extracting the bolt is easier and cheaper
Not when you don’t have those tools.
I feel you. Harbor freight, Home Depot, or Lowes has a basic set that would take care of it for you. Amazon also has some good ones that should arrive to you in less then 24 hours. Trust me I know because something similar happened to me recently.
@@BossLife932 I guess it’s worth a shot either way I need that bolt I’m sure I can find it I’ll take s look tomorrow i also I’m having trouble getting that center nut off I don’t have an impact driver and everything just wants to spin when I try to lock it up
@@HardcityRaindrops might be left handed threads on that center bolt. i have no idea but i know on some alternator pullies they are left handed.......most left handed threads are on spinny things.
@@ericvig163 No I’m going the right way you just need a tool to hold it.
That sucks bro, hope you get reimbursed for that nonsense.