Honest review as always. I preferred the Himalayan to the 450mt because I don't really like to mess with the bike. The r.e. has a more commuting-friendly stock gears and superior suspensions.
Great review, forced me to make the enquiry to my local dealer. I watched your India trip because the KTM and Triumph were my original choices, but the twin engine of the 450MT adds sound to the looks and agility. Thanks to Amy for the pillion perspective too, although I'm not sure my wife would let me take her down any green lanes
Thanks 👍 it’s probably not the best pillion on the muddy lanes but it’s still capable. It’s a tough decision with so much choice now, the new KTM 450 adventure R looks interesting to 👍
@@thatbikersimon It does indeed but will probably have the KTM price tag to match. The BMW Concept 450GS would be my ultimate pick, but I suspect that will be a while before we see it and will also have a hefty price tag
Great review. I ended up buying a 450 Himmi. The CF (and KTM, Triumph) are also great bikes, but I chose the Himmi because of the way it made me feel ......very subjective I know, but at the end of the day It left me with the biggest grin on my face when I got off the bike. It's nicely run in now, the engine is buttery smooth, there are no nasty vibes and I absolutely love it. Regards, Chris.
Good choice Chris, I don’t either bike will disappoint, It comes down to personal preference, the Himi 450 for me is strong and reliable and that the bike i would want if i was off the beaten track. Enjoy buddy
Hi Simon, excellent review. I had the same issue as you did re the snatchy throttle when I test rode a demo 450 2 days back. Found low speed control frustrating around tight twistys, town riding, small traffic islands and similar. Otherwise, an impressive bike for the money.
I sold 2 bikes (Tiger 800XC & Transalp 750) with snatchy throttles, so it is an issue for me. I like your style and honesty. Goes well with a passenger.
Great review Simon off road two up respect to you and your other half, just let you know I've got one of these bikes I am just under 5ft 9 and I have lowered it then added the rally seat it absolutely transformed it, and latest update although it doesn't mention it the fuel is a lot better.
Rode both bought the Himmi no regrets i do t even want to buy the MT now and i could if i wanted one but the Himmi is so good no issues this far and enough power for anywhere off road torque to and guys they are the same weight wet Himmi carries its weight so well absolutely magnificent bike RE knocked this one outa the park!
Great review, Simon. I can't get a demo on an MT for months. My local dealer won't have one until next April! However, l've spent 3 hours on a Himalayan and loved it, which makes me think should l wait?
It’s a 450 looks nothing like an Himalan only the 450 engine, it looks based on the Iconic T7. Has some nice touches but like Aprilia lack of dealership and give the Cf 12-18 months in UK weather will probably rust and drop to bits, only time will tell. Great video 👍
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. Only time will tell. The good thing is it’s nice to have choices and this bike will do well in this market
I can hardly stand yet another raving review of the 450 MT here in Denver where they wont be available until 2025. But what a great review going off tarmac, and two up nonetheless. Props to your riding skills. Everybody says those stock tires are not great in the mud. And yet there you are!😂
Thanks, yes it’s been a capable bike all round I guess like everything it will need to pass the test of time. I ride with a pillion a lot so I think it’s important to show that side of the bike. I’m sure more and more reviews will come as the bike gets rolled out over the coming months. As for the stock tyres they would be the first thing to go lol 😂
Another great review. I’ve never had the experience of being pillion through the deep puddles and slippy mud like Amy got to experience there, but I’d give it a go.😅 Been in a couple of dealerships that echoed what you said about supply - there’s definitely a wait for these!
Thanks, I’ve been trying to get hold of a bike since they launched them but it’s been a challenge, thankfully my local Royal Enfield dealership managed to get hold of one.
Hi Simon, and Amy B wow that bike sounds fantastic but what’s the difference in price between the Royal Enfield and this bike CF moto , Simon you are one lucky man because most women when we start the Winge about the weather and screaming down these tracks. Anyway keep up the good work guys always enjoy the videos , Cliff from Australia 🇦🇺
Pricing really depends on where on the globe you are, but I just had a quick look around for 🇦🇺 pricing for you. CFMoto: around AUS$9,490, RE Himy 450: around AUS$9,990
Great review guys. I'm currently trying to sell my Africa twin to buy one because the weight and how nimble the cfmoto is outstanding, especially for Australian high country riding.
The Africa twin is a great bike, but it’s big compared to this. It’s a shame some other manufacturers didn’t get into this 450 rally scene like Honda. Even some of the middle weight adventure bike are still to big for most guys.
@thatbikersimon I'm 6ft 2 love the Africa twin but way to top heavy for my riding in Australia high country I test rode the cfmoto 450mt absolutely perfect for me and great to ride to work daily. Great review, by the way.
@@thatbikersimon The MT is still too tall for me even at the 800mm height. However, there is a an aftermarket lowering link that brings it down another 15mm and together with a lower seat I can get the seat down to 765mm - manageable but I still can't flat foot it. Still undecided - do I buy it or just put a set of Heidenau scouts on my street twin? BTW, they have sold over 1000 MTs in Australia since April which is amazing given our small population.
It might be a beater in technical terms, but with them being so rare and hard to get hold of, people will just go for different bikes. Himalayan currently has a 5 week(ish) turnaround.
I think once they’ve caught up With themselves they’ll be fine, the demand is strong and as much as the Himi is a great bikes it’s not everyone’s taste. 👍
Hy Mate This bike is not made for Hammond. 😂 I am busy. Customizing in progress. Whats left is the Rack, suspention and other things. Exhaustsystem is changed complete from front to muffler. Sounds very good. 6 vids r already done and in my vault. If i got 30, i am starting the channel. Starting an tour trough Afrika is a lot of preparing and paperwork. But i knew it before. My problems with editing r done. I am using an prehistoric program now. Movie Maker. 😂 Perfekt. Editing for Dummies. Very good results. Now i screw on my sound while driving. Had to buy an lavalier micro. The DJI MIC2 isnt bad, but for driving vids useless without lavalier. Should i send u a Testvid of my vid from the "Broker Mühle". Well known Bike point here in Germany, Belgium and the Nederlands. Fresh edited yesterday. Sound is not perfect yet, but good enough and will be better step by step.
@@thatbikersimon Ok. I will upload it for Private and give u permission to watch. If i send u it by E-mail it is too big and has no Translation, cause its in German of course. Will take until the WE
I think they are probably comparable to the Himalayan, I was chatting with an MT owner today and he is well happy with it. I however brought the Himalayan and I am happy with that too, only gripe is that one drop at the ABR festival and the crash protection dented the tank. I chose the Himalayan over the MT because I wanted more of the dual sport feel than the adventure bike. I had an adventure bike before for a few years and chopped it in on a speedmaster, so the dual sport gives me something that I want to green lane and maybe TET on just to satisfy my urges and limited skill level. If I was intending on going on international adventures I may have gone for the MT
This was the same as me really. I’m Happy with the RE 450 and also got a dent in the tank from the ABR, but both these bike do offer the fun factor for sure, and perfect for the muddy lanes in the winter.
Good question but the reason they can’t fill the orders is because of popular demand, so that’s good right 👍 the market will be flooded with spares and accessories shortly after and dealership are taking this brand on because there’s a demand. So it’s a win win I reckon 🏍️💨💨💨💨
Unfortunately I didn’t have enough time on the bike to give it a proper test, it’s not as good as the Himalayan but still better than other bigger adventure bike
It has everything the Himalayan has and much more. Ride by cable, 270 degree crank, 175kg dry, tubeless rims/tyres standard. I'm in love with this bike. Hopefully we will get it in India. And as always great review❤
FYI himalayan has a ride by wire system. If u swap the battery with li-ion, remove the crash bars and suddenly himalayan is lighter. A plastic tank is in development for the himalayan. It is possible to make the Himmy 175 kg wet and some Indian guy did it already.
I think all does come down to personal taste, the Himi 450 has proven itself to me for a reliable robust bike but there’s something about the 450MT that makes me excited
@@tamasvarga67 The RE has less power, less electronics, Single cilinder, Old lesser dash, None adjustable suspension, worse offroad tyres. And to be honest, it is also just a clone of a old bike
Wait till you find out how good Moto back up service is... spoiler alert...none forth coming see bingley wheeler for one ... Chinese way of thinking you got it cheap enough now live with it ..bear in mind how many dealers are going bust before you part with your money 💀
That’s a interesting comment, my now local royal Enfield dealership is going to be also selling CF moto’s and even in these volatile times it’s selling plenty of bikes, because there not only good but also affordable. Nobody really has to take out any finance on these bike and the backing of both CF moto and Royal Enfield I think they’ll be fine
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Honest review as always. I preferred the Himalayan to the 450mt because I don't really like to mess with the bike. The r.e. has a more commuting-friendly stock gears and superior suspensions.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it. The RE is my choice of bike still
Great review, forced me to make the enquiry to my local dealer. I watched your India trip because the KTM and Triumph were my original choices, but the twin engine of the 450MT adds sound to the looks and agility. Thanks to Amy for the pillion perspective too, although I'm not sure my wife would let me take her down any green lanes
Dealer just got back to me. 10 people already with deposits down for bikes expected Feb/Mar
Thanks 👍 it’s probably not the best pillion on the muddy lanes but it’s still capable. It’s a tough decision with so much choice now, the new KTM 450 adventure R looks interesting to 👍
@@thatbikersimon It does indeed but will probably have the KTM price tag to match. The BMW Concept 450GS would be my ultimate pick, but I suspect that will be a while before we see it and will also have a hefty price tag
Now that looked like a proper test ride! Great review lots of mud and a brave pillion😂
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks it was a fun day
Solid review, really nice to hear from the pillion!
Glad you enjoyed it!. Thanks
Great review. I ended up buying a 450 Himmi. The CF (and KTM, Triumph) are also great bikes, but I chose the Himmi because of the way it made me feel ......very subjective I know, but at the end of the day It left me with the biggest grin on my face when I got off the bike.
It's nicely run in now, the engine is buttery smooth, there are no nasty vibes and I absolutely love it.
Regards,
Chris.
Good choice Chris, I don’t either bike will disappoint, It comes down to personal preference, the Himi 450 for me is strong and reliable and that the bike i would want if i was off the beaten track. Enjoy buddy
Hi Simon, excellent review. I had the same issue as you did re the snatchy throttle when I test rode a demo 450 2 days back. Found low speed control frustrating around tight twistys, town riding, small traffic islands and similar. Otherwise, an impressive bike for the money.
Thanks Mark, apparently theirs a app or map that sorts the throttle out, which I thought it would be a easy fix.
I sold 2 bikes (Tiger 800XC & Transalp 750) with snatchy throttles, so it is an issue for me. I like your style and honesty. Goes well with a passenger.
Thanks for your comment it’s much appreciated 👍🏍️💨💨💨
Great review Simon off road two up respect to you and your other half, just let you know I've got one of these bikes I am just under 5ft 9 and I have lowered it then added the rally seat it absolutely transformed it, and latest update although it doesn't mention it the fuel is a lot better.
That’s great news, I thought they would do a update to sort the mapping. Thanks for watching
Rode both bought the Himmi no regrets i do t even want to buy the MT now and i could if i wanted one but the Himmi is so good no issues this far and enough power for anywhere off road torque to and guys they are the same weight wet Himmi carries its weight so well absolutely magnificent bike RE knocked this one outa the park!
That’s good to hear, I’ve had no complaints with my Himi 450 strong reliable bike. I enjoyed riding the MT but I won’t be changing.
Great review, Simon. I can't get a demo on an MT for months. My local dealer won't have one until next April! However, l've spent 3 hours on a Himalayan and loved it, which makes me think should l wait?
It’s a difficult decision purely because there both equally good. I would love to have both but that would be pointless or would it 🤔
It’s a 450 looks nothing like an Himalan only the 450 engine, it looks based on the Iconic T7. Has some nice touches but like Aprilia lack of dealership and give the Cf 12-18 months in UK weather will probably rust and drop to bits, only time will tell. Great video 👍
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. Only time will tell. The good thing is it’s nice to have choices and this bike will do well in this market
I can hardly stand yet another raving review of the 450 MT here in Denver where they wont be available until 2025. But what a great review going off tarmac, and two up nonetheless. Props to your riding skills. Everybody says those stock tires are not great in the mud. And yet there you are!😂
Thanks, yes it’s been a capable bike all round I guess like everything it will need to pass the test of time. I ride with a pillion a lot so I think it’s important to show that side of the bike. I’m sure more and more reviews will come as the bike gets rolled out over the coming months. As for the stock tyres they would be the first thing to go lol 😂
The wait here in Denver is killing me!
@@draleharnett1843 what do you ride now?
Does he bike have a centre stand, if no, can we buy an after market centre stand. Thanks for the review.
It don’t but I’ve seen people buying them on Ali express for at £40 gbp
Another great review. I’ve never had the experience of being pillion through the deep puddles and slippy mud like Amy got to experience there, but I’d give it a go.😅 Been in a couple of dealerships that echoed what you said about supply - there’s definitely a wait for these!
Thanks for the comment, I’m surprised we stayed upright 😂 great bike though. It’s all you need in these conditions.
Ride pillion with me off-road
Nice bike, it’s interesting to see a none media review
It’s a great bike for the money, it was hard to fault.
… there is a software update available now which makes the throttle control much smoother in lower gears especially …
Yes I’ve heard that, so that’s a big plus 👍
That bike certainly sounds like value for money,cheers Simon 👏👏👏
I think so Geoff, great fun for the money
Great review, and I've watched many on both bikes
Thanks for the feedback 👍
Best review I.ve seen on that bike, thanks.
Glad you liked it! Thank you
Absolutely fabulous bike, there is an app that fixes the snatchy throttle. I'm 5'4 and she's perfect. 🇦🇺🤘
I did hear something about that, and I’m sure people reading the comments will be happy to know. Thanks for the comment
Nice one Geezer ✌️😎
Thanks buddy
I said .... nice one bruvvva ! 😅
Interesting... Been looking forward to you reviewing this particular bike.
Thanks, I’ve been trying to get hold of a bike since they launched them but it’s been a challenge, thankfully my local Royal Enfield dealership managed to get hold of one.
@@thatbikersimon Nice pillion as well. Good to see the bike is good enough for couples.
@@The10thManRules people sometimes underestimate these bikes for pillions. There was enough power in the bike at all times.
@@thatbikersimon That all makes the price really right.
It's not looking good for import into the U.S.
@@The10thManRules i did hear that they might not accept Chinese bikes into the US market in time.
Hi Simon, and Amy B wow that bike sounds fantastic but what’s the difference in price between the Royal Enfield and this bike CF moto , Simon you are one lucky man because most women when we start the Winge about the weather and screaming down these tracks. Anyway keep up the good work guys always enjoy the videos , Cliff from Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks Cliff, yes matey I am lucky rain or shine Amy is there with me, it does generally cost me a spot of Lunch out though 😂.
Pricing really depends on where on the globe you are, but I just had a quick look around for 🇦🇺 pricing for you. CFMoto: around AUS$9,490, RE Himy 450: around AUS$9,990
Great review guys. I'm currently trying to sell my Africa twin to buy one because the weight and how nimble the cfmoto is outstanding, especially for Australian high country riding.
The Africa twin is a great bike, but it’s big compared to this. It’s a shame some other manufacturers didn’t get into this 450 rally scene like Honda.
Even some of the middle weight adventure bike are still to big for most guys.
@thatbikersimon I'm 6ft 2 love the Africa twin but way to top heavy for my riding in Australia high country I test rode the cfmoto 450mt absolutely perfect for me and great to ride to work daily. Great review, by the way.
@@thatbikersimon The MT is still too tall for me even at the 800mm height. However, there is a an aftermarket lowering link that brings it down another 15mm and together with a lower seat I can get the seat down to 765mm - manageable but I still can't flat foot it. Still undecided - do I buy it or just put a set of Heidenau scouts on my street twin? BTW, they have sold over 1000 MTs in Australia since April which is amazing given our small population.
@@brucecampbell4485 it’s a great bike for sure and at that price its cheap. A set of better tyres on it would make a massive improvement.
Well it'll looks good and it sounds fantastic. I like it.
It’s a great bike I was seriously impressed.
It might be a beater in technical terms, but with them being so rare and hard to get hold of, people will just go for different bikes. Himalayan currently has a 5 week(ish) turnaround.
I think once they’ve caught up
With themselves they’ll be fine, the demand is strong and as much as the Himi is a great bikes it’s not everyone’s taste. 👍
hello merci pour cet essai en duo , c est tres rare d avoir l avis du passager{e}] ...thanks for Amy ✌
Thanks Buddy, Amy comes out a lot with me, so it’s good to add the pillion to the content
Hy Mate
This bike is not made for Hammond. 😂
I am busy. Customizing in progress. Whats left is the Rack, suspention and other things. Exhaustsystem is changed complete from front to muffler. Sounds very good.
6 vids r already done and in my vault. If i got 30, i am starting the channel. Starting an tour trough Afrika is a lot of preparing and paperwork. But i knew it before.
My problems with editing r done. I am using an prehistoric program now. Movie Maker. 😂 Perfekt. Editing for Dummies. Very good results. Now i screw on my sound while driving. Had to buy an lavalier micro. The DJI MIC2 isnt bad, but for driving vids useless without lavalier.
Should i send u a Testvid of my vid from the "Broker Mühle". Well known Bike point here in Germany, Belgium and the Nederlands. Fresh edited yesterday.
Sound is not perfect yet, but good enough and will be better step by step.
Sounds Awesome buddy, just keep plugging away site hard work but it’s all part of the adventure, il look forward to it. Cheers 👍
@@thatbikersimon
Ok. I will upload it for Private and give u permission to watch. If i send u it by E-mail it is too big and has no Translation, cause its in German of course.
Will take until the WE
Good, honest, unbiased review, particularly as you own a Himalayan. Looking forward to seeing the CF Moto range at Motorcycle Live.
Thanks Simon, my Local Royal Enfield dealership has now also become a CF moto dealership so im hoping to bring a few more bikes to the channel now.
Nice one!
Thank you! Cheers!
Love from 🇮🇳❤
Thanks Buddy 🙏
It’s a bike i need to try for myself
You should you’ll not be disappointed
I think they are probably comparable to the Himalayan, I was chatting with an MT owner today and he is well happy with it.
I however brought the Himalayan and I am happy with that too, only gripe is that one drop at the ABR festival and the crash protection dented the tank.
I chose the Himalayan over the MT because I wanted more of the dual sport feel than the adventure bike.
I had an adventure bike before for a few years and chopped it in on a speedmaster, so the dual sport gives me something that I want to green lane and maybe TET on just to satisfy my urges and limited skill level. If I was intending on going on international adventures I may have gone for the MT
This was the same as me really. I’m
Happy with the RE 450 and also got a dent in the tank from the ABR, but both these bike do offer the fun factor for sure, and perfect for the muddy lanes in the winter.
If they can't fulfill orders how will they manage spares and accessories 🤔
Good question but the reason they can’t fill the orders is because of popular demand, so that’s good right 👍 the market will be flooded with spares and accessories shortly after and dealership are taking this brand on because there’s a demand. So it’s a win win I reckon 🏍️💨💨💨💨
The economy is probably quite good at motorway speeds too. Give it a go and report back!
Unfortunately I didn’t have enough time on the bike to give it a proper test, it’s not as good as the Himalayan but still better than other bigger adventure bike
Max 5,2/100 at reds,, 130 plus speed
4,1/ normal
4,3 mixed
Cheers
It has everything the Himalayan has and much more. Ride by cable, 270 degree crank, 175kg dry, tubeless rims/tyres standard. I'm in love with this bike. Hopefully we will get it in India. And as always great review❤
Totally agree, the actual weight on the bikes is about 195kg wet weight, but definitely feels lighter 👍
FYI himalayan has a ride by wire system. If u swap the battery with li-ion, remove the crash bars and suddenly himalayan is lighter. A plastic tank is in development for the himalayan. It is possible to make the Himmy 175 kg wet and some Indian guy did it already.
@@Futuremodi yeah Acerbis in Italy has already made it, with its protection plastics and so on.
@@AlphaKllL Woahh.. That's great news. Do they have a video uploaded? Would like to see it. Thanks 😊
@@Futuremodi yes, they tested the stuff in the 2024 HAT event: th-cam.com/video/Nh1vvjljltM/w-d-xo.html
I ordered mine in July and won't take delivery until March 2025..
It’s worth the wait for sure you’ll like it 👍
you always turn the handlebars max left when you park :)
Do I I’ve never noticed
@@thatbikersimon I meant you should, makes the bike more stable.
Shhhhh !
Cfmoto 800mtx review please
I plan on doing all the CF moto range when I’ve got some spare time 👍
not as agile, tensile and free spirited as the Himalayan 450
I think all does come down to personal taste, the Himi 450 has proven itself to me for a reliable robust bike but there’s something about the 450MT that makes me excited
On looks alone it allready beats the Himalayan.
Well I have to agree with you, the Himi you forget the looks when you ride it, but the CF moto is a good looker.
I think the RE has a retro cool vibe that will transcend….while the MT looks good (fair) now-I think it will feel dated rather quick.
@@cyasi interesting comment I’m sure they will change the looks as and when on MT more colours ect
Opinions… I looked at both but to me, the CF is a Chinese clone of the T7 and the Himalayan has its own identity so my choice was easy.
@@tamasvarga67 The RE has less power, less electronics, Single cilinder, Old lesser dash, None adjustable suspension, worse offroad tyres. And to be honest, it is also just a clone of a old bike
Wait till you find out how good Moto back up service is... spoiler alert...none forth coming see bingley wheeler for one ... Chinese way of thinking you got it cheap enough now live with it ..bear in mind how many dealers are going bust before you part with your money 💀
That’s a interesting comment, my now local royal Enfield dealership is going to be also selling CF moto’s and even in these volatile times it’s selling plenty of bikes, because there not only good but also affordable. Nobody really has to take out any finance on these bike and the backing of both CF moto and Royal Enfield I think they’ll be fine
You could just shorten it with "Russia only can continue to demolish Ukraine because of China" - consider before pay for China products.
My whole house is made up
Of Chinese components. Without them you wouldn’t even be able to watch this video 🤫
@@thatbikersimon I believe You hadn't a choice, You were forced to - otherwise how could you support the aggression? Right? - Or... who gives a f
I'm sick of this comparison shite. Buy a bike and ride it.
But how do you decide which bike to buy & ride?