Swift Zwift Tip: Route Badge Unlock SHORTCUT // Innsbruck Lutscher CCW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- The Lutscher CCW Route Achievement Badge is one of the HARDEST to achieve thanks to the double ascent of the Reverse Innsbruck KOM climb required. This week I came across a tip that allows people to skip the lengthy lead-in and allows you to complete it with only ONE ascent of the leg snapping climb!
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Can confirm this also works with the Lutscher route. I got spawned about 500m from the KOM banner, saving me a climb 😊
Works for Lutscher regular as well. We flubbed it on a meetup once.
How did you do it for the regular Lutscher?
Great tip 👍 The bonus tip was even better - haven't dabbled with meet ups so didn't realise you can use it as a way to access world's off rotation without using the world hack, thanks! 👍👍👍
Yes. It works on the forward lutscher route too. And this tips also works great for someone who chasing XP. Use TT bike for getting 10XP at the banner. Descent 6km to the bottom for getting 120XP without any effort. You can repeat 3 times a day for this trick
I just used this trick to do Lutscher (clockwise, doing the CCW tomorrow). Was dropped off 1 km from the KOM on the correct side; a bit of a climb to start, then the descent and all the climb. The meetup finished about 50 m before the KOM and then I got the badge when passing the KOM. Super-nice to do the warm-up and cool-down on the two descents. :)
Good to know! I don't have that route badge yet, and I'm running out of easy ones. :)
Almost got all the badges now after 5 months on Zwift. Just 5 more rides up Alpe du Zwift to complete the 25. Looking forward to the TDF. Ride On Shane 👍🏼
It's technically correct that German "Lutscher" means "Lollipop", but in a cycling context it also means "someone who drafts". Similarly, the verb "lutschen" (to lick) can be (and is) used for "drafting" (das "Windschattenfahren"). Kudos to Zwift for that word game. Now I only need to find out where on that specific route the drafting effect is actually perceptible, at my weight :-)
I did this route earlier this week, it kicked my butt, Great sense of accomplishment for a florida flatlander like me.
Just did it as well as the Lutscher. Took me 2 more minutes to do Lutcher but I got two new badges tonight. Thanks for the tip !
That's a fantastic tip, Shane! Thanks!
Just did this ride the other day before seeing this tip. I used one of the 1:20 FTP workouts, only had to really climb the last 1/3 of the second trip up the hill without ERG mode helping.
This would have been handy to know before I slogged my fat self up that hill twice! 😭😭😂😂
hahaha! And those who haven't done it (me!) are rewarded for laziness! 😂
I slogged up it once and was so p*ssed off when I came round again that I baled on it. I hate it when Zwift does that, its impossible to pace yourself if you have no idea that a ride they tell you will be 13.5km and 400m is actually 26km and 800m!
Me Tooo!
@@gplama cunningness rather than laziness. 😏👍😂
@@sherzz I do too. I also hate how you need to choose a route before you can take a look through your route badges to see which one you actually wanted to choose! Then I always forgot during the restart time of Zwift.
These days I use ZwiftHub to keep track of what routes I've already done and it has a side-bonus of letting you know the lead-in's distance, elevation, and gradient!
It's also really nice to sort things by all kinds of other factors, especially gradient.
Hi Shane, I can confirm it works for Lutscher regular route also. I have got both Lutscher and Lutscher CCW route badges that way some weeks ago.
Do you need to u-turn to hit the banner at the start? Or just ride the route as presented with the meet-up (a la CCW)?
I don’t remember doind a u-turn. From what I recall, just ride. Looking at the activity in ZC and Strava also seems to be straightforward. The spawn point, however, is 1km aprox from the KOM banner, so will need to climb a little before actually starting the route (in Lutscher CCW you spawn closer to the KOM banner)
I am speachless. I was going after all of the route badges in the winter 2019-20 and was very angry when I discovered that the Lutscher courses had these long leadins.
I rode the Innsbruck KOM twice on monday, not knowing this swift Zwift tip until now... :)
Did this yesterday for a meet up with my wife ... must admit was Surprised to get the badge though pretty relieved as it really hurt when I did the clockwise direction ... uber windy in the NE UK tomorrow so the wife needs the clockwise badge so she is going to see if the cheat works
Both Lutscher route badges spawn you [using meet-up] slightly downhill from the 'start' banner at the top of the climb. Lutscher spawns nearly 1km downhill, LutscherCCW is closer to the start. After using the meet-up tip to cut out the lead-in, just head uphill to the start point. If you've set the meet-up to 'distance', the meet-up can finish before the end of the route, so make-sure to ride past the final banner to collect badge.
Cool, I need to tick this one off - earned the regular Lutscher badge on Monday (the hard way!)
Me too! Just did the same just now. Exhausted!
Just did the regular Lutscher and the trick works there as well
Star!! - all set up ready for my ride this evening - Cheers
Did you invite GPSheepy? He'll never show anyway.... ;)
Shane Miller - GPLama My Mrs will never show - so invited her instead ;)
thanks for telling me now two days ago I did the route to get the badge and hade too both climbs
Genius. Thanks for the tip
The reward system in Zwift is interesting! you ride a Fondo or Tour and get a kit... ride every route across all words and they give you a couple of badges that no one can see. You climb Alpe Du Zwift 21 times and get a badge. That should earn a special Alpe Du Zwift jersey. 50,000, 75,000 and 100,000 kms should earn jerseys as well
*25
@@gplama using your tip on Strava to see how many times that you did something.. I have climbed it 24 times. zero motivation for #25. Being at level 50 with 25 million drops makes you not get excited anymore unless a new jersey is involved.
Fortunately I did that route before meet-up was an option so I only feel half badly done by. Nice tip.👍
I used this trick on several routes with long lead-ins.
I did it the normal way with lead in going up twice and it was fun!
Genius. Been putting this off. One of the last ones I need to get!
I think Surry Hills has a long lead in up to the top of Keith Hill to start, so will try it soon as I need that badge
True. Ticked it off with meetup 2 weeks ago.
You get the badge but you don't the course on Veloviewer if you are keeping track on that as well. The course on Veloviewer is the Zwift Insider verified course which includes the lead in.
There's only one badge that counts! ;)
Did this this morning and got the badge for Lutscher, rolled further down the hill a few hundred meters before the CCW route and did that loop and bang no badge:-( lesson learnt, finish the first loop then create a meetup for the CCW loop.
James Mangold I did the same as you. Once at the top, you better create another meetup for the reverse direction :)
Wow. Genius for sure! 🤯
Just tried Highline in New York, would have cute the course in half, but sadly this DOES NOT work here.
Was going to ask about that, as that course has an equally long ( and steep) lead-in
Did the route earlier this week before this tip was posted 🤢 I massively underestimated it #brutal
Yeh I don’t it for the regular Lutscher yesterday, doing the reverse today. Wonder if this works for doing multiple badges in 1 go? create a meet-up for scheduled finish time on a different course.
Hahaha awesome tip mate, love it!
AAAAHHHH! This tip is two days to late! 😂
During the tour for all (maybe future events)when I joined an already started event from the zwift app start screen I seemed to actually start around 40% into the course and unlocked the route badge even though I did less km then the achievement. For example I did 20km on stage 3 group ride and unlocked Everything Bagel which is 34km long.
Thanks 😊
Shane, Please can you tell me if you are currently testing the new SRM X POWER SPD power meter and when can we expect a full review ?? Many thanks and keep up the excellent work :)
No, sorry.
New channel segment recommendation: "Hack forward slash hack". Using a meetup hack to get to a route badge hack. Genius!
Hack forward slash badge
Very helpful since I am still missing Lutscher and Lutscher CCW and I kind of hate climbing (Zwift Level 35 with no Tron bike says it all, right?) :-) Therefore thanks!
I seem to have the opposite problem on Muir and mountain - twice done it in meetups but still no badge :(.
Yep, that got me too the first time. You need to do another ascent of the Titan's Grove KOM to complete it even though the meetup route ends before the start the KOM.
Could this be used for a quick leveling tool by just having a starting point to free wheel from?
Now you're talking! Doing a u-turn and going down the reverse KOM would be even faster to get rolling for free.
I was thinking that too. Start at the top of the mountain, ride the few hundred meters and let gravity do the work! It would be around 8km per run.
@@gplama I mean I don't have the drops to buy the things I want at my current level 😂 so don't see the point of doing it, but I imagine some people might just want to power level
It won't work for Drops.. only XP. Drops never accumulate at 0W.
@Shane Miller - GPLama i do get some drops with my Neo 2T when descending the Alpe and recovering on the couch. For some reason it is showing around 10 watts. Could it be the negative gradient simulation from the neo?
Hi. I have a question I hope you answer. I’m hoping to get on ~wife in around Sept. in time for winter. I’m visually impaired. And just wondering, if I can just go on Z and cycle. I don’t race anymore. Just a relaxed cyclist. I don’t see any point in trying to do races. But just want to cycle. Hope you help. Thanks
Sure. Zwift free ride is the default mode without joining any events/races.
Makes you wonder why there are lead ins anyway. 🤔
Did the tip still work?
Awesome!
Does this work for club events too?
Does this «trick» still work? I have both of these routebadges left 😬
Hi Shane, would this hack also work for the Lutscher? If you select the Lutscher CCW and then turn back?
Maybe. Not something I've tried.
Can anyone tell me whether the spawn points on both these courses varies much? Do you always spawn BEFORE the banner- in either direction? Is there ever a need to U-turn, duck back 'under' the banner before U-turning again to start the route? Thanks.
Hopefully it will work on highline. That's a PITA leadin
Which app do you use to record your screen? (not your phone, your in game screen)
I use the built-in NVidia screen recorder (Nvidia Experience)
Good to know, once up the hill is bad enough but twice is just mental torture !
I did this yesterday but it did not work for me :-( . Have you any idea why larma ? Thanks
If you followed this recipe and it didn't work, I'm out of ideas. One for Zwift Support.
Surely you mean Baaaa-dge unlock with GPSheepy
Hola Lama, a qué altura tienes la TV en tu lamalab???
The bottom of the screen is at handlebar height.
@@gplama thanks for the answer!! Greatings from Chile
@@gplama Just curious. With all the resources devoted to bike fitting etc, is there any guidance on how (distance/height) to best set up the display in a zwift pain cave?
@@nardixbici None I'm aware of. For me - I find having the bottom of the screen level with the top of my handlebars about perfect. (50inch 4k screen bike around 1.4m from the screen)
Shane Miller - GPLama Thanks for your answer! Because of space limits, my 40” TV is closer (about 75 cm from handlebar) and b/c of preference/ergonomics it is much lower (top of screen is just 15 cm above height of top bar). I am surprised that there are no resources on this, with the explosion of indoor riding during COvid19, as I imagine that head/neck/spine alignment is very important for comfort. Maybe you could open a thread on this? ‘;-)
Hi Shane 👋🏽
What if you create a meet up and your friends can not meet, can you still do it ?
Yes
Has anyone found the meetup trick to work elsewhere?
Why luscherCCW is so much harder than regular ⏰vice?
Much steeper gradients.
How many ride ons did you get in those 29 minutes??
populair guy ;)
At least three. Hundred. if there was a way to make them smaller/less BEEPY that would be great.
Highline? Still havent done that 1 with its annoying lead-in. -U10
Does not work on HIghline. Just got the cruel truth. -U10
Don't look forward to Ventoux - It was way too long and hurt like hell.
Is this zwift doping. 🌝 I hope it shows up in badge achievement list I have ridden 2 that have not shown up in mine. But I will ride it twice anyway just to prove I can 👍
Haha, you’ll need to check the definition of doping. This is strategy! 😉
Arrrrghhhh did this badge the hard way!!!
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BTW, you don't even need to stay in the meetup. I exited the meetup whilst in the pre-meetup warm up and rode. All good!
That would have been a good way to remove the spinning leader beacon above my head. Great tip!
I always quit the meetup straight away and delete the meetup so my invited buddy doesn’t have to respond
Anyone know if this hack still works? I'm feeling lazy.
Two hours later...Yes, Drew, it still works.
I feels like you can gain free kilometres by just creating meetups and rolling down from the top :D
Work smart, not hard! 👌🏼🤣
That one is no longer working 🤔
It won't count on Veloviewers Segment Hunter Leaderboard though. veloviewer.com/segmentHunterSeries/30 also can do same on Lutscher
Nice hack, but you have to do ride the whole way with the spinning yellow beacon. I'll pass thanks!
A tip in the comments here - Quit the meetup, keep riding.
Well now is handy... How about you do a you turn when you finish CCW and then do CW as it will be a total time of about 1:30 hrs for us mortals that dont put out 300w for 1 hr...
GPsheepy 😂
6 so far have voted Dislike. How could anyone dislike this ??
Six people watching this after slogging up the reverse KOM twice for the badge! 🤣
Now you tell me lol
Why
Deep.
Shane still watch your videos top man but you can make a video out off anything FairPlay you out do gcn 😂
ugh..... too late. :P
WDYM climbing is not fun?! It's the funnest part of the route.
Lama Mon, can you add me for gpsheepy. I found that fat cat but need him to follow me for the meetups. D.Hill or David Hill in the search. Thanks!
Hey Lama, can you (GP sheepy) add me for meet ups? Thank you Adam Clark
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What kind of a man are you?
A lam-an! llaamaannn. LAMAMAN!
@@gplama go back and do it properly!
@@alexmatthews3484 No, I'm good. 😂
@@gplama shame, you're losing the moral high ground against Mr Schofield...!