Attack From Behind for Self Defense, MMA and Muay Thai
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Go check out this video we did on Shane's channel about where to look in a fight: th-cam.com/video/9G4CMCcpfVI/w-d-xo.html
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Dude, you and the family gotta come back up soon! Had so much fun, and boy are you all in for a treat with the other videos we filmed… 👀
Shane are you the GOAT?
Lol no reps
I got into fighting through fightTips and then I started watching hard2hurt so it's insane seeing them collab. Also it's very surprising to me that Shane is not tall, he always seemed tall to me.
he's 5'8 i think.
icy mike is just stalkier and stouter
Mike is a killing machine. have you seen his monster legs? This man is strong
Mike now is a definition of collab
Cuz of his oozing confidence and never slouching.
Welcome to hard2hurt, where Icy Mike finds all the reasons to legally sneak attack people lol
Good video as always
Nice little reference to Shane's video about the weirdest tip to win any street fight (keeping a mouthguard on you at all times). You're an OG, Mike!
lmao that brings me back. Shane walking through the streets talking to his cam lol nostalgic
I actually still have my spare mouthguard in my coat... just in case XD
Shane didn't have a mouthgard in his pocket AND he suggested a sidekick almost immediately?? Not living the gimmick, brother
That's an OG reference bro I remember his fight story
As a halfling rogue, Mike gets to add a number of d6s to his damage when he hits an opponent that can't see him.
i hate how you made martial arts and dnd are integrate so well lmao
Mike is absolutely a little goblin, not a halfling
@@abdul-salamdreza6774 they make each other better.
To be fair, a sidekick to the small of the back would probably be plenty debilitating. Massive whiplash and a ruined sciatica would take the fight out of most dudes, even flying high on adrenaline.
yeah... scary stuff
As long as they're standing still. If he moves a little the result could be weird / unexpected.
Yup. The human skeletal structure has evolved to protect the front of the body, not the back. Any trauma to the back, especially the lower back can be devastating, even with little force.
@@hard2hurt Hey man! I love the idea of this, but my only question is if the ref is watching in Muay Thai rules could it be mistaken for a punch to the back of the head and get me deducted a point? I'm tempted to use it but I'm not sure. I don't know if you would have a clear answer, but either way if you responded to this I would be stoked!
Love your videos, man. This one is really cool.
@@damienholland8103 Exactly. I think results are more random that some people may think
In extreme skying/sky jumping there were some athletes crash on their backs at 100 km/h. Some get back to feet while others couldn't and got left with broken spine, literally destroyed kidney etc
!FIGHTTIPSCOLLAB!
Out of ALL the ideas you could’ve done for a first video with Shane this is what you discuss??? I love it Mike lol
We've covered it. You might end up stuck with that person.
Question for Viewers: if you had a free shot, what would you do?
If I'm defending someone else, I'm going for a step-through overhand elbow to the cerebellum.
Side shot to the knee. It's not lethal, but it's enough to incapacitate someone if they can't stand, they can't fight.
The man berries.
palm to the back of the head, bas rutten style
Stinger whip!
Love this topic a moment where a “free shot” came in to play that jumps to my mind for MMA is when Francis ngannou KOd JDS with a hook to the head from behind.
OMMG yes me too
Mike I have watched all your shit 3 or 4 times over , you have to start posting more often man , ur killing me small’z
i got 3 kids and own a gym homie! which one do you want me to give up on?
@@hard2hurt Maddox is the man of the house now Mike lol. Time to 100% focus on TH-cam haha
@@hard2hurt ok mister responsible adult , way to make me look stupid and selfish lol
Hi Mike, loving your channel. I'm from the UK where anything is viewed as a weapon by the police. However, I have watched a few videos where bodyguards 'claim' if the law in a country prohibits mace or pepper-spray they use small cans of hairspray. Its effect is to clog breathing and limit sight. Wondered, as I've seen your mace in the face video from 2019 if you would consider doing a video using hairspray as a self-defense alternative to mace or pepper spray.
just make sure its no lighters involved... cuz thats an obvious problem
@@crustybomb115 No, just hairspray to the face.
Where I'm from, pepper spray is illegal but I carry it anyway. I have a responsibility to break oppressive, senseless and artificially crime-increasing laws. Plus, I have been attacked by animals more than searched by cops, and legal CS spray was completely ineffective against animals.
Is there a UK party that wants to write realistic self-defense laws ? Vote for them.
@@daniel-zh9nj6yn6y none of the major parties in britian support giving more rights to the people
I’ve been in this situation multiple times in security, though I was never trying to hurt the guy. Every time I just grabbed them by the jacket collar and dragged them to the ground. It’s surprisingly easy to do lol. When they were grabbing someone else its a bit more complicated, though
Free shot at someone’s back, why would RNC be wrong?
good to see Mike collabing and helping new up n coming youtubers grow
I'm trying to help this little guy get going.
Mike you are the funniest martial arts TH-camr man. I love the videos. I love the collabs.
[Ah Edwards vs Thompson... the golden Era of mma. Awesome video! Mike comes with the innovative scenarios.]
one of my favorite knockouts
Karate in my garage got me to Tae Kwon Do, which got me to Kung Fu, which led to Sanshou, and to MMA, and a career in Law Enforcement...why you knocking garage karate lol
who the hell is knocking it?
Shane's reactions to everything in this video make me appreciate the guy that much more.
Mike “pretend I’m shorter than Shane”
We don’t have to Mike..
Took you long enough to make this crossover happen
- Free shot from behind in serious self-defence scenario: kick to the groin or RNC, depending on situation (namely number of potential threats).
- Less serious scenario (i. e. breaking up a fight between 'friends'): pull shoulders back and down while (stop)kicking standing leg.
- From catching the leg and taking the back in sports fight: depends on rule set, i. e. sweep or RNC for grappling, but I really like the version in the video, as well.
- Defence against video version: Moving away (as shown) is great. Another alternative would be a spinning back fist (like Bas Rutten liked to do). Pretty good chances of catching an over eager pursuer, though somewhat higher risk than just moving away.
PS: Perfect outro! ;-)
So when's the video with Jeff Chan coming?
This collab...It’s finally happened!!! 😩
Iv been waiting for this collaboration for ever! It finally happened!
Bad choice from Shane... The kick to the balls is always the best choice for this case... And so easy, the guy had his feet spread... So, you can't miss...
My reaction to someone slipping behind me has always been to turn while throwing my elbow "back" to lead the way, so honestly that jumping hook is my worst nightmare. I might catch you in the ribs but my face would be completely exposed.
Two of my favourite fighting channels :-D free shot ? Kidney shot or Rare naked choke.
Belly to back German suplex Zangeif style shirtless and all lol.
Have a reunion with karate nerd&brother, wonder boy and sensei seth and include shane.
German Suplex.
moooreeeeeeeeee I could watch these 2 for hours such an energy!
Lol! I’ve been attacked by 2 different women I knew from behind. They used a hammerfist. I’m very lucky they did not have a knife or other weapon.😬🤓🤷🏻♂️🥀
Anyone who doesn’t say belly to back suplex is objectively wrong
I feel this is fair.
If I had a free shot like that with no concern for the person's safety, I'd probably go with a suplex
yikes
Shane "Scorpion" Fazen with the MK spinal finisher
Life actually thrusted this upon me years ago. My answer was the hardest soccer kick to the nuts that I could muster. I'm not talking a little tap you would do to your buddy. I was kicking a field goal basically, like a "lift a dude 1/2 an inch off the ground" kick.
Did it end the fight completely? No. But it certainly took some fight out of him.
Like the great clint smith quote "will a shot to the balls end a fight? No but it's a hell of an introduction. Hi my name is fate and it's only going to go down hill from here"
@@castiel241 that's a great line haha
That was my answer. I've done it in sparring, but always pulled it.
I feel a great disturbance in the sack after reading that
@@TubeArmadillo sure, but behind an unsuspecting person it sure is easier.
I agree with you that, in a fight, they're harder to land than people think. But if you get a completely free one and your opponent then has to fight with an imploded testicle it's an advantage.
Rear naked would be my first bet if they were unarmed. If they were armed I might throw a big right hand to the back of their head. Or get confused because ive never been in that situation.
Ok, so, hear me out: a kick to the nuts from behind
That ending was great 😂… “think this good enough for fight tips?”…. Hard 2 hurt outro 😭
“Uhm..”
@@fighttips 😂😂😂
Hey Mike! Hope you’re well, I’ve had a question for a while, maybe you’ve covered it somewhere else. My question is: What are some things others could do if they witness someone being assaulted? And a follow up: What are some things kids could do if their parent is in an altercation?
Thank you!
Finally, Batman meets Batman…. Wait.
Mike keeps a mouthguard in his pocket.
Wow, I never thought about how to attack someone from the rear. Good video.
TH-camrs are 12 year olds. ROFL!!!!!!
a lot of people have never thought about it
This should happen more often! Solid stuff.
Agreed, you do sound like a 12 year old about to do something really cool at 22:55
Great video and i loved the mouthguard reference, you guys are awesome!
No, the correct answer is German suplex. Any time I see a wide open back, it’s always the thing that looks the coolest that is the answer. Lol
Most people just run up and throw a haymaker at the guy's head if his back is turned. Hardly any technique needed. I'd probably do something similar just with more of my body behind it due to some training. Will probably injure my hand given how hard the skull is.
Ever see those people walking that always look behind them constantly?
Theyre not crazy theyre aware
Free shot from behind in a street scenario- Cupped Gerber Slap:
1. Low risk
2. Requires very minimal space
3. High KO/ stun probability
4. High probability adversary (Even if not KO'd) temporarily loses control of hands/arms. Opens a wide set of follow up options.
Wait... A practical use for the Kenpo "Looping Back Knuckle"?! HALLELUJAH!
Mike is the GOAT. My wrestling coach entered me in a kickboxing tournament (won last week)for my cardio, took 3 months of Kyokushin Karate, Boxing, and binged your Dirty Boxing videos and managed to turn my trex arms into an advantage. Thanks.
People do the same weird thing (in defense of others) with lethal force, using a firearm. They'll say "hey" to the bad guy, wait for him to turn around, and then burn him down.
Flying omaplata. I got my blue belt from Caique and Royce in 1998. I trained for maybe 4 years and haven't trained in 10 years. Yep. Definitely a flying omaplata. If I miss I'll switch to a Peruvian Necktie, inverted of course, Duh.
Naturally.
The momentum just works itself out 👍
would love to see some sparring between you two!
It would be boring.
@@hard2hurt lemme guess... more mental games instead of throwing shots at eachother?
Shane is too fast for me.
I always had it in my mind that in this scenario, if I'm right behind you.... I'm going elbow behind the ear/back of the head as many times as I can. This was my not-sport-legal plan. But the technique on this video would work just as well in both support and sd it seems. Great stuff.
Surely it would be a hook round to the jaw
7:40
People be like:
"that's wrong you're exposing your liver!"
Even though you are behind him...
When someones behind you the block and hop isnt bad, but FLARE YOUR ELBOWS OUT so they become bull horns. Or drop and flip and land on ur back so you can upkick and recover from the strike, flopping to the ground sounds abnormal but it happens in MMA all the time. Someone gets clobbered, they drop and fall on their back and then its upkick and recover game.
"I would love to put this on your channel do you think this technique is good enough for fight tips"-Mike "ummmmmm"-Shane
Hard2hurt outro music plays.
Well that awnsers that.
Pausing at the 2 minute mark. My go to attacks as a bouncer/doorman if I'm trying to stop something from behind have been chokes, elbows, and slams ... that Fedor hook as well.
For the guy whose back is exposed:
What about sinking low in his stance before shifting towards the opponent? There's the possibility he might get kicked but he may avoid punches.
I'm spitballin but I'm curious about folks' thoguhts
You catch the leg, and pull/push/pushSideways really hard. 🤷🏻♂️
Anyone else waiting for Batman style fight words (Biff!, POW!, BoP!, etc) to appear?
0:04 Icy Mike age reveal
Makes the most icy mike technique: "Do you think this technique is good enough to go on Fight Tip?"
Shane: "Uhmmm..."
Boom outro.
You had me in tears. 😂
When I actually had to do this in a schoolyard brawl fifteen years ago I grabbed a RNC. Badly of course, because I didn't actually know BJJ but even now it seems like a good idea.
Ahhhhh that ending had me giggling xD
Ferguson vs Kikuno just released as a free fight from the UFC and it's a wonderful example of when sneaking someone is possible in pro fights. Kikuno got hurt and literally started running away, Tony caught him with a right hook from behind lol
Off topic but: I land the superman jab more often than I land my regular jab. Thanks Icy Mike
My Left Brain, and Right Brain as a fighter ... IN ONE VIDEO 😈😈 the Chaos!
Free shot? My attack from behind when I trained a lot was a hard (almost flying) knee to the lower spine. It's got to be pretty bad. Non-lethal is a stomp the the back of the rear leg. I like your move with the blocking the kick, followed by the body shot and flying head punch. That would be nasty!
Might sound silly, but how about jumping forward, doing a 180 in the air while protecting the head?
Before I watch all of this, I don't think I'd go for the head or back. Personally, I'd kick out the knee. Its an easy target, and no matter how tough someone is, knees are not tough. They will go down. They drop, from there, there's many options and you have a great positional advantage. As a grappler, I probably wouldn't even bother striking them first unless its the knees, as that offers zero control and you have no idea if they're foing to react the way you expect. It's so easy taking someone to the ground from behind, and that you can do successfully whether they're on meth or not. Basically, giving me your back gives me an easy way to control you. Why would I throw out the opportunity to control someone, in exchange for a strike? Unless the strike is with a sword then no thanks.
What do you think about the JPX pepper gun as an alternative to a firearm? I recently started working on a military base and that means I’m not allowed to carry my gun on base. Not even in my car… so that means I don’t have it on me when I’m going to work or leaving work and I typically stop places before or after work… I don’t have any training but I want to carry something to protect myself and my family. Im thinking a 24 inch asp baton and an Emerson super karambit to start but I wanted to get your opinion. Everything I get I plan on having on me when I leave the house and work is on the list of places I’ve gotta go.
Thanks
I can finally visualize how you big you are because I've stood next to Shane multiple times in my life, so if I learned nothing from the video I learned how big you are now, I guess
I like either slap clap to the ears or kindey punch and RNC. If the attacker is grappling the victim, palm the forehead and drive the fingers into the eyes. Doesn't matter if I'm touching the eyelids or the eyes when I do it. It's going to be immediate pain and the fingernails will rip the eyelids or scratch the eyes when I yank my hand back. I'd also pull the head back in such a way the fingers are driving inwards to give better purchase. That will peel just about anyone off someone, no matter how strong or determined they are. It will also obscure the vision of the attacker, setting them up for whatever I planned to do when I force them to stop grappling their intended victim.
Isn't targeting the back in Muay Thai an illegal move? Yeah in MMA it's a near free-for-all as long as you don't go for the spine.
Push the back of the knee and drag them into a cranking rear naked choke(id be crouching not laying on my back)
If it's striking I'd open slap the ear and follow up with a cross to the face/ short lead hook to the body as they turn finishing with a clinch to suplex.(assuming all this is self defense)
I imagine it would be sportsmanlike to turn a dude around and let him fight with his guard up. If you do that stuff professionally and frequently you would want a rep for being a gentleman to have the favor returned.
"Arena combat [...] we should do that!"
12 year olds...
Fire technique
Fire demonstration
Fire outro
.......call the Fire department!!!
..........sneak diss...........
Free Shot: 0:40 Either lunging elbow right above their spine/below their occipital. Or a leaning full weight gorilla cannon fist hook to the same spot. Assuming its war status attacks allowed.
I had been waiting for this collab to happen. FINALLY
This is what they call ninjutsu
Hey if you kicked them in the back as they were attacking someone wouldn't the person they were attacking also practically be kicked?
"Knockout Game" as a lebgitimate technique
How to hit an opponent from behind using a crowbar? Just a usual self-defence situation. I really need a guide
Now we gotta get Shane to hang out with Mike, Seth, Wonderboy, and Sweet T to form the TH-cam martial art Avengers
what about a standing RNC? you can pretty much guarantee to choke the guy out (if you know how to apply it properly), and you got a bodyshield in case someone else starts attacking you. Plus your not stuck on the ground and can just let go if you get into trouble and need to box
I go str8 for the neck . A good choke is guaranteed ko . Also if u missposition u can come back with a backfist or a hammer fist. They rarely expect it .
if you don't have shane fazen guest on your channel you cant fight
Mike...I love your stuff. But the run-by jump hook to the opposite side jaw is some hood dummy shit. lol
my free shot: donkey punch to the base of the skull.
question: when the opponent is behind you, while you are rushing to get out of the situation, can you back kick them in the gut/nuts? maybe aim for the knees or just stomp their foot with your heel? thoughts?
This is a collab. I would love to see more of.
If they're attacking your wife the last thing you want to do is kick them into your wife, like the side kick to his back. What if they're holding a knife? you want to move them away from whoever they might be attacking
First you gotta shriek like a woman. Then you keep on sobbing until he turns away in disgust. That's when it's time to kick some back.
Being 5.5 with a nearly perfect centre of gravity if I got a free shot on someone from behind
It’s gotta be a jump knee to the base of the spine or a elbow to the back of the neck 😂I scare myself sometimes 👌🙏