Hearthstone: Real Men Fight until Fatigue (Warrior vs Warrior)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
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the opponent isn't good at math, he actually was going to win
+Lucas thebest5 warriors aren't good at calculating
+josh19251 No. Shield block makes you draw a card which would make him lose faster. It's exactly why he didnt play it. The enemy maybe thought the last card trump was holding was something that would kill him, or its just miscalculate
+Lucas thebest5 that's why good warriors used to put intellect gems in their shadowmourne
Wouldnt have YourHarry won? He took 9 fatigue, so hes at 17(15hp+2a) adds more armor so hes at 19. Trump is 11hp, and then hes going to take 6 fatigue, after warrior ends his turn with 19hp. So Trump goes down to 5hp, adds armor so hes at 7 and attacks for 4, enemy warrior is at 15 now. Takes 10 fatigue, nows he at 5hp. He ends his turn and then fatigue does the last 7 damage needed to win the game. Poor guy.
yup, he would've won
Trump had shield block in his hand (+5 armor).
Ciclame
He would have taken 8 damage then since Shield Block makes him draw a card
Ciclame
yea but that makes him draw a card, more fatigue
Trump: 14(total) - 5 (fatigue) + 2(armor up) = 11
Opponent: 30(total) - 4(damage) - 9(fatigue) + 2(armor up) = 17
Trump:11(total) - 6(fatigue) + 2(armor up) = 7
Opponent: 17(total) - 4(damage) - 10(fatigue) + 2(armor up) = 5
Trump: 7(total) - 7(fatigue) = dead trump. He needed devilsaur to guarantee win. I guess he just scared the other guy into submission with that squirrel?
All right, Warrior vs Warrior, better quit my job and tell my wife I'm going on an expedition for a couple of months.
I guess all that armor must have tired them out.
Get it?
I'll go now...
Darude - Sandstorm
your bad
The Jungler So is your grammar :/
The Jungler you're*
***** *y0Ur
Those dumb/obvious questions ~_~
"Why did he Tnkmaster his 9/17?"
"Why didn't the opponent shield slam his face?" x'D
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shield slam only works on minions, and the ysera after being buffed was gonna die.
And this is why, when you're unsure who wins, you play it out.
Trump wouldve lost.
opponent turn 17+2 = 19 health.
trumps next turn 11 health -6 +2 = 7 health.
Opponent 19-4-10+2 = 7
Trump 7-7=0.
And no, before you say it, shield block wouldnt have won him the game.
saw that too, how did they both miscalculate?
Saverdon Real life fatigue.
***** Correction: Turn 1 is Trump. 19:07 He takes the 5 fatigue damage before YourHarry takes his 9 fatigue damage. YourHarry still has 30 when Trump starts his turn.
Turn 1 - Trump
14-5=9 Armors up to 11
Attacks for 4
(YourHarry)30-4=26
Turn 2 - YourHarry
26-9=17 Armors up to 19
Turn 3 - Trump
11-6=5 Armors up to 7
Attacks for 4
(YourHarry)19-4=15
Turn 4 - YourHarry
15-10=5 Armors up to 7
Turn 5 - Trump
7-7=0
YourHarry wins.
***** You started on the wrong turn. YourHarry is already at 30 when Trump takes 5 fatigue and armors to 11. As Chapacoka says, Trump is turn 1. Be careful with your math, YourHarry wasn't and look what happened.
***** 30 hp counting armor, which is effectively hp.
Wow. Didn't know they had special minion dialogue back then.
Cairne vs Warrior
Illidan vs Druid
and now Vol'jin vs Warrior.
So many missed lethals. Harry had shield slam and could of done about 40 damage to Trump and Trump could of just used execute on Garrosh since he was damaged.
Shield Slam only hits minions, and Trump had already used his last Execute on Ragnaros...
***** The real crime is that 3 other people upvoted him...
Uchihagaara9 I dunno that comment looked really sarcastic to me at least.
Uchihagaara9 The real crime is that you didn't understand his joke...
MrDarkentro
what would you expect from a narutard
Some people still don't understand that shield slam can only be used on minions...
Shouldn't damage from fatigue not be affected by armor? How is encumbering yourself with more armor going to help you catch your breath?
***** but then armor would finally be balanced and not be a "health overload".
***** nerfed into being balanced seems pretty fair to me. Kinda reminds me of the beginning days of starcraft 2.
Terran and specifically marines have always been to strong. So strong that it took years of nerfing to get them to a point, where being 10% better than your opposing terran made you equal. It took so long that people, it may sound completely retarded, became used to it and no one fucking cared anymore - everytime terran was nerfed again there was a huge shitstorm. Which was completely unnecessary, 'cause terran players should be very, very quiet when using the words "terran" and "underpowered" - and control warriors in hearthstone seem to be the same fucking way. "Armor? what is armor? oh you mean that stuff that gives me double the survivability without any effort!? oh haha yeah....wait what were we talking about?"
It's not about the "but you can play this, and do that, and put that in your deck!" ... yeah, but when I do "this and that" and have to put 10 of "these" fixed cards in my deck to be euqal...that's imbalanced to me.
But whatever, I'm just some person on the internet. :P
BengoManiff i think it is balanced you might have the priest in your mind who can heal only his max amount of heal but remember he can use is hero power on other minions!
i think its not unfair or unbalanced its just a class based around having a big amount of shield,
yes it seems unbeatable but mate did you see the heroic bosses, they look the same and guys beat them every day. Now dont say but they have that Card or they can do this nope behind every hero there is a cleaver idea each hero has his Nemesis class :33
(yep im aware of my bad grammar)
Wandelnde Seele Well, playing against heroic bosses or characters in singleplayers is a little different...you know who you're playing against and can build against it. But if you build your deck against card draw rogues and fatigue druids and shaman deck X and priest deck Y and a hunter Z deck, you will find yourself pretty helpless against warriors. Why should I play a paladin or a priest the way I want him, maybe to even...hehe...have some fun...sounds stupid I know! XD But why play this game when all you need is Ragnaros, Sylvanas, Dr. Boom, Loatheb and all the legendary cards that everyone plays and maybe put some warrior in it too, so you can compete with the big mass that is currently the majority in hearthstone. Anyway, I got nothing else to say...so have a nice day.
BengoManiff oh okay Yeah than have a nice day too :3
That must have been a really long game. I would probably have conceded just from boredom.
I had a fight with a mage who mirrored my Armorsmith, used Echo of Mediv on it, and used Ice Barrier to get 20 armor on top of full health. I was sitting at 29 hp and 50 armor. We both fatigued with no minions on the board and he wouldn't surrender.
lherrebout Who won?
Me, the warrior
I now understand optimal deck building is only an armor up away.
All the calculating who would have won, it does not matter. Trump won in real life fatique as the warrior could not take it anymore, or could no longer correctly calculate or whatever, making trump the winner by real life fatique.
Eembuster Why are you writing "fatique"? Fatigue. A "g", not a "q". =)
Sorry, if that sounded offensive? Not quite what I meant, lol
Eembuster le butthurt
LOL! Trump unlocks the Infinity Armor at the end!
That's the opposite of "I only have to press the button 14 more times to win".
Edit: And I guess Grommash's "I can wait no longer" has never been more appropriate.
20 minutes jeez. better get some popcorn
I figured it would have been the opportune moment to play Tinkmaster at 14:38 if you're scared of Shield Slam. If you got a 5/5 it could have drawn that Shield Slam out and saved Ysera, and if you got the 1/1... well, not like you're losing anything, and Tink himself is an acceptable body to put on the board.
And if he gave his opponent a 5/5, he'd have lost. Tink is FAR too risky in that situation.
mrwho995
Use Tinkmaster after hitting taskmaster with death's bite.
I'm assuming he meant after killing the taskmaster.
Zebo12345678
Oh yeah, I missed that. Yeah I think that move would have been better if Trump was scared of shield slam.
I liked that play at the time, but I think actually comboing tink with nightmare acts as a 2-card removal that only shrinks whichever ysera by an average of 1 power, and may have been the better play.
Trump would have lost and here's why
- 5(-3x - 2) - (x - 3) = -4(4x + 5) + 13
- f(x) = 6x + 1
- 2(a -3) + 4b - 2(a -b -3) + 5
Value
Every time I go into fatigue during matches, I think of this.
Fatigue should ignore armor, but maybe that would give advantage to priests :/
Why?
Priest can't therefore "overheal" themselves...
Artie Densiwilja you're one of those people aren't you artie
Blake Place What?
Artie Densiwilja Priest Vs Warrior. Fatigue time. Warrior takes two dmg with over 30 armor. Down to 28 hp. Priest takes two damage with no armor. Heals back to 30 hp. (This is assuming fatigue ignored armor.)
That intense Mexican stand off at the start
In the beginning, this match was like the Kakuna battle in Pokemon. Harden up!
That shield block won the game IMHO
10:23. Did they change the last minion in brawl wins thing?
yep
I'm so happy seeing Ragnaros, Sylvanas, Death's Bite and 1-Mana Execute in 2018
that battle should be present like : Gayrosh vs Gayrosh
This is a match up is like a match up between two metapods.
lesson 1 a real warrior vs warrior matchup atarts with 6-10 turn of armoring up
JENS?! You made this outro track?! I've heard it from other youtubers (itzGator mainly) for years! Holy shit, you are awesome dude!
All right, it's time to make a 10-hour video of the infinite armor animation and song from 19:48.
Opponent: 30
Trump: 14 - 5 = 9, ARM: 9 + 2 = 11, DMG: 30 - 4 = 26
O: 26 - 9 = 17, ARM: 17 + 2 = 19
T: 11 - 6 = 5, ARM: + 2 = 7, DMG: 19 - 4 = 15
O: 15 - 10 = 5, ARM: 5 + 2 = 7
T: 7 - 7 = 0
Trump actually would have lost...
I just woke up, slept in the midle of this vid, I swear.
"If only I could execute my Sylvanas" I wonder who also though that...
Get it, because Artosis tried to execute his Sylvanas.
Tump would have lost if harry played it till the end !!!!!
19:08
Trump 12 Hp + 2 Armor - 5 Fatigue = 9 Hp + 2 Armor = [11]
Harry : 15 Hp + 11 Armor -9 Fatigue = 15 Hp + 2 Armor (Surrender) Lets think it further...
Harry : He would have + 2 Armor = 15 Hp + 4 Armor = [19]
Trump : 11 - 6 Fatigue = 5 Hp + 2 Armor = [7] !!! Guys you see it now right ?
Harry : 19 - 10 Fatigue - 4 Attack (from Trump) = 5 Hp + 2 Armor etc (doesnt matter)
Trump : 7 - 7 Fatigue = [0] !!!!
Really impressive editing, so good that I'm scared editor is overworking himself
He tapped his armor, pretty OP
oh they patched brawl so it doesnt reveal the winner?
which in the end doesn't matter because you're going to find out in 2 seconds anyway
RaventhortheWarrior i just wanted to look cool in front of my friend, who didnt know the trick
realisticeyeball That's what it takes to look cool?
***** It was a joke, should I have emphasized it with "lol"?
***** You're the one who is judging here, not him.
That was like watching the Unstoppable Force meet the Immovable Object. Slow slow attrition.
"Optimal play is to do nothing but Shield up".
Real men fight THROUGH fatigue!
Drinking game: Drink every time trump armors up 0.0
It's a moot point because of hunter, and trump wouldn't know because miracle was mia from the meta at the time, but i played a very similar deck (-tink -slam +1whirlwind +1taskmaster) to legend and the miracle matchup is easy, but manually armoring up is not the way to victory. dragging out eviscerates and deadly poison charges with ideally a sludge belcher but anything works while setting up ideally a 1charge deaths bite before playing all your smaller minions into as many whirlwinds as possible is where you get your armor edge, and they have a really tough time dealing with armorsmith after threats like belcher. keep their board clear with weapons (even if this drops you down to mid 20s initially), but don't be afraid to shield slam/execute somewhat early because it doesn't scale, though save 1 execute for edwin. you do want to faceless armorsmiths in that matchup.
One of the coolest matches !
Guys, Shield Slam is usable only on minions! Learn that.
Happy Trump wins a lost game. He has 9 + 2 + 2 live by 6 + 7 damage. The enemy takes 10 + 3 + 1 damage and have 15 +2 live.
I believe you are mistaken. Suppose the game continues: enemy armors up to 15+4, pass. Trump takes 6 and goes to 5, armors up to 5+2, deals 4 damage: enemy is at 15+0. Pass the turn, enemy takes 10, armors up to 5 + 2, pass. Trump takes 5, ends up at 2 health and can pass the turn for the victory (he did not even have to attack with his minions the previous turn - enemy would be at 9 + 2 and takes 11!). Does this make sense or did I make a mistake somewhere?
R elativism
"Trump takes 5, ends up at 2 health" Trump takes 7 ... ends up at 0. Because he just took 6 "Trump takes 6 and goes to 5, armors up to 5+2"
yea.. looks like he actually lost.
R elativism nope... second fatigue dmg is 7 (you wrote 5)
R elativism trump takes 6 fatigue and goes to 5 life. Next turn fatigue does 7 damage not 5, meaning he would die even with his armour, one turn before the warrior would have died. :)
R elativism Oh fatigue goes down after 6 if your name is Trump, right? Marek is right. I slapped my face when Trump said "Woof, I think I win!" Slapped twice as hard when the enemy conceded. Slapped three times as hard when Trump said: "I guess he calculated his loss".
I'm typing this from the hospital.
dat 39 shield slam doe.
Plot twist: Opponent hands trump the win out of RESPECT and not stupidity
that decklist makes me and my wallet cry
One of my favourite Trump games recently :)
I do wonder if they will add more minion in the future that ignores armour and aims straight for face, so far the only real example we have of this is Alexstraza.
I love the title
i think if you listen carefully cairne says something differents if it's played by a warrior
He says "Garrosh! You are not fit to rule the Horde!" when played against a warrior. This comes from when Garrosh first became warchief of the Horde and Cairne disagreed with his sadistic actions, which eventually lead to Cairne challenging Garrosh to a duel in which Cairne was killed. The same goes for Illidan Stormrage saying "Hello... Brother." when played against the druid class.
Jens it would mean the world if you let Trump see this comment
Ive been watching Trump for a couple of months and have been crazy about him ever since. The fact that he isn't very crazy or wild but still manages to be unbelievably funny is amazing to me. He taught me how to play Hearthstone and its become easily my second favorite game. He inspires me to be kinder to people everywhere and one day I really hope to meet him. I truly support him and think he deserves everything he gets and more, the fact that everyday he gets 30000+ viewers to watch him be silly and educate does not surprise me. Trump is easily my favorite content creator and has inspired me to be a conscious about being a good person. #grandpatrumpthedream
Tinkmaster do you think you let the team down? The squirrel yes the team no
Metapod's Battle?
That last game was not even close
"Real men" and "heartstone" can't be in the same sentence
to me hearthstone need a custom mode to change the rules of the game to play with friends. i want to play a game when you build a 30 card deck but only get to play with 10 card in random from the 30
Is it correct that YourHarry would have won if he stayed? Or did I miss calculate?
That warrior shoulda just waited it out.
Woah, if trump has played his shield block early on he'd have lost that game. I guess it's plays like that that separate the pros from the amateurs. 99/100 people (at least) would have played the shield block way back, but Trump knew better and never played it.
It was obvious that he had to play till fatigue... So he doesn't want to draw so much... It was so obvious not to play the shield block that even I (Rank 15) wouldn't play it...
I wouldn't even play the 2 acylots...
Artie Densiwilja acolytes still get played alot of times because there is hope that they do damage to the enemy hero/ take damage away from face
TheseKidsWearCrowns OverHere
One damage isn't much...
And the potetial to get 3 draws of it are more damage that it soaks up...
so many legendaries
that was nuts. gj man.
I wonder, wouldn't at least 1 Shade of Naxxramas be a perfect fit in this deck? Play it early, then stall and stall game till it's huge, then 2-shot face
lol @ the end scene. and it should be real men fight IN fatigue.
@OdetoAnimosity urban legends, sometimes they say Armoursmith wins etc.
I can wait - no! Taste my blade!
Looking at the enemy's armor it becomes obvious why Shield Slam cannot hit face.
OTK Flawless Victory
Reached Rank 1 immediately
Artie Densiwilja *OHK
The ending is just crazy, if the oponent didn't concede, he would've won.
Trump: fatigue for 6, go down to 5, shield up to 7, damage oponent down to 15
Oponent: fatigue for 10, go down to 5, shield up to 7
Trump: fatigue for 7, bye bye Trump.
10k gold??? Do you buy cards trump or are you just too good that you get everything easy.
He has saved up his gold for a long time now.
TaintedStaff Any idea why? Does he have like every card?
He's been playing since closed beta so id say he has every card and then some
Cornelieus Krieghoff
yeah he has all the cards he needs and I think he said that he keeps it for the expansions that will be coming out in the future
he even has more then 2 of the same cards, if you follow stream you can watch when he creates deck you can see that he has 8 of some cards, it's not worth even disenchanting if you have everything.
Are people joking when they ask: "Why didn't he Shield Slam or Execute his face?"
7:40
Faceless his Sylvanas, hit his face with death's bite, execute your own sylvanas and get his. What do you think?
Legal missed just execute face! Kappa
He also could have Alexztrasa the armor to get rid of more hit points! Kappa
Kappa has no power here
bobamatfetbud PJSalt
@TheSkyrimGuru The buff kills the buffed minion at the of the turn.
Woah, wasn't Rag supposed to be victorious during that brawl? Did they patch it?
Yep
If he hadn't gave up he would've won: armor up 19hp then trump goes from 11 to 5 + 2 from armoring up and he would dealt 4 + 10 fatigue which leaves the opponent to 5 and +2 from armoring up.So basically the opponent shouldve just waited 2 turns to win cause fatigue would deal 7 dmg that puts trump to 0
@JeremyBallantine You can only use it on minions.
lol ive had warrior v warrior matches exactly like this one. both players out of shit just waiting to see who draws to death first. such epic matches when it happens.
dat outro doe
Shield slam only deals damage to a minion
i only watch these videos to see what jen is going to put in the end xD
Grats on 300k subs Trump :)
How does that infinite armor happen?
Woooh, fresh vid!! Smellz good.
noob question: whats that thing on the left side of his screen and how do i get it?
And here's why control is alot of fun to play! xD
Real men never fatigue...
That outro xD
10:00 - 10:30 rngd the game. Too bad the opponent didnt do the math and lost when he should have won. Good Game though.
BTW What card tracker is that? Thanks
+ZickZak it's edited in for the TH-cam video, not an actual tracker.
I believe it's actually a deck tracker. Not sure. I'm not to familiar on them.
+W0LFSKULLz its not a tracker, in The end of the video trump is wondering what Cards he has left in his deck
Ah, alright.
Cheers Trump!
Just minimize damage coming to you while maximizing damage going to him. You do not need to count that out. Just play to win.
What would happen if Ooze costed 3, and got rid of armor as well? Or if shield slam removed armor when it was used? Thoughts?
Ooze removing Armor would be OP. And shield slam would be a Worse obliterate with Armor instead of health.
I like the way Trump plays, but here , he just was lucky and his opponent made a big mistake by leaving!
How do you put your decklist on the screen? you edit it yoursef?
Haven't seen the end of the game yet but Trump's opponent used his eapons really freely.. I mean he used one chanrge of Death's Bite and one charge of Fiery War Axe to kill a 2 HP Armorsmith and a 1 HP Armorsmith respectively..
How i can make deck stay on left like that ? i have deck tracker but is not that good .. Any ideas ?
ivailo Nikolov He does it post production. When his editor clips the video together, he adds that deck tracker next to it.
Hmph is it just me or attacking sludge belcher souns like Saul's bodyguard from breaking bad. "Excuuuse me". I could swear to God, Huel or what's his name on the show said that in exact same manner while pickpocketing weed xD maybe it's a refference? They even look the same :-D
Harry would have been at 5hp and 2 armor, while Trump went down to zero. Not hard to miscalculate on restricted time. But it was steering to that rounds before, he could have taken pen and paper. Even then, no need to throw in the towel, when there is slight doubt.