All she can do is keep saying over and over again, as she does, that she doesn't believe she no longer has the illness, but rather her symptoms are no longer an issue for her, at least for now.
Im sorry but schizophrenia doesnt just vanish. Telling yourself you dont have it doesnt mean you dont. Just like if i say im a cheeseburger doesnt mean i am. I hope you never have an episode again but the likelihood of this to be true is slim to none. Your giving false hope to people and this is think isnt right.
Please give her time, she is doing her best, schizophrenia is not a exact science she has already changed the name so just wait, maybe she will find another suitable name in the future so don’t nitpick…
Using the phrase “after schizophrenia” IS suggesting you do not have the condition anymore which is misleading because in theory based on the information you have shared if you stopped your keto diet then the symptoms would resume (indicating there is still an underlying condition).
If I were to find my face swells every time I eat strawberries, so I stop eating strawberries, should I be diagnosed with a face-swelling disorder or a strawberry allergy?
I mean if you're taking the title literally that would be many peoples assumption. She never said she was cured or that its possible to cure it. Maybe she means it more in a metaphorical way because she's not experiencing symptoms with this treatment. Why not just let her be if she's happy and healthy. Nothing wrong with psych meds, I take them myself. If she found a way to do it without meds why is that a bad thing?
The issue remains that the new channel title implies that you no longer have a Schizophrenia Spectrum Illness/Disorder. For a population that frequently have issues with medical compliance, this is dangerous. Two things can be true at once: I can be cheering for your success with metabolic therapies, and can also hold strong concerns about the way you're now approaching discussion of the illness **you still have**. To imply that those with concerns are engaging in polarisation and black and white thinking is black and white itself - it doesn't acknowledge that many of us with strong concerns wish you well with the metabolic therapies you're engaged with, and hope for a future for you that remains free of the symptoms of Schizophrenia.
I think the original title of the channel is better because like you mentioned you still have the disorder but are symptom free ... So you truly are Living Well with Schizophrenia. I also felt the original title was positive and hopeful. The new title sounded like false delusional Hope of being completely "cured". I feel that can be dangerous and misleading to others who have the same condition. But if you want to change your channel's name, thats up to you! Happy you are doing great and feeling better! 😊🎉
@@WaitingtoHit Loren asked everyone's opinion on the channel name change. I like the original name better. It's her channel she can change the name however she wants. It's not really a big deal.
@@nesxya I feel the same, it was so fitting and meaningful! It was perfect actually. I could understand why she'd be so ready to make a change and distance herself from the illness but something about the new title just doesn't feel right.
I think delving into the downside of keto is something that you have not entertained or really discussed. The experts you have referenced are all in one camp. It would, I think, be more well-rounded to reference other view points. There are some very real, well studied, scientifically based concerns with keto. I believe it is actually dangerous to not at least include the other side as part of this whole discussion. There will be pros and cons to all interventions, we should also discuss the cons.
You would think with the increasing popularity of keto and the millions of people around the world on the diet, we would hear lots on how sick people are getting while on the diet, yet there is very little indeed. The only thing I really hear is that it sometimes will raise LDL cholesterol quite a bit. But even in the most incriminating studies, high LDL cholesterol only has a 1.3 hazard ratio for heart disease. If I had a mental illness I could control by just changing my diet, even if there was a 30% chance of increasing heart disease I would for sure still do it just because of the betterment of quality of life. Also, please remember when you see studies poo-pooing anything that people seem to find beneficial in some way, look to see who is funding the study and what motives they may have.
yes. that, and that it is a Medical keto application that effects the mitochondria And NOT an unsupervised commercial keto diet. THere is a lot to know how, when, and why Medical keto can or can not work on brain disorders. I would also like to know that those on the keto "bandwagon" handle those who can not or do not respond well. what does science need to investigate? there's nothing worse than those who work in the science fields shutting the door on true scientific open mindedness. maybe the name of the channel should be living well after acute symptoms of M.I.?
Keto diet is litterally toxic long term. There are a lot of studies about this. It can be followed only for brief periods of time. She is prospecting keto diet lifelong...
Maybe look at videos put out as early as 3 months ago? The name of your channel changed the day BEFORE you stopped your meds. That was somewhat premature. Maybe wait a few months after trying your new diet, then report back? You're addressing a group of people who already have medication compliance issues. It's dangerous.
That's exactly why dislike her content!! It's like she's sharing a lot of information that can lead people who already find it hard to keep up with their med intake to have even more doubts.... Also doing it as a "live experiment" and sharing it as she goes along.. it's so dangerous
Yes, but it was the last dose of what was 4x less than the minimal therapeutic dose for her medication. She had been on 2x less & lower, for 4 months already. And she did have the experience of total symptom withdrawal relatively early on, which didn't change as she kept lowering her medication. But it *did* change when she was trown out of ketosis for some reason. So the connection & understanding of her brain's response to the diet was clear, not something like naive hope...
@@dyawr i never said her process was WRONG, i am saying that the success is momentary and that there is absolutely ZERO proof that this will be sustainable long term, much less that such a treatment will work for the audience that follows her. Therefore, sharing all this information to a susceptible audience is very dangerous.
@@dyawr you don't know how much research i have been doing. I myself have a chronic mental health illness and would be happy to believe that a diet would make me not have to medicate on the daily. But alas, there's no research to back it longterm and i am not willing to risk my mental health with this experiment. I think she shouldn't be promoting it. If you want you can refer to real psychiatrists on youtube like Tracey Marks who explore this issue as well, from a scientific standpoint.
And then there are people who weigh food, track macros, check blood ketones and maintain good ketone levels with a keto coach and do not have improvement. What works for one person may not work for another. It’s true with medicine and it’s true with other therapies too. Very glad you are doing well. Would love to see really good blinded randomized trials.
Absolutely. My personal hypothesis on this is that it depends on what the cause of the mitochondial dysfunction is. If it was caused by heavy metals for instance, the chance of changing your diet to fix it is probably low.
@TravisBrickleKillZone Off the top of my head: I think that you could have a diet that is quite low carb (not in ketosis) and one that is keto (significant ketosis) and subjects would not know. THe researchers who are evaluating symptoms must not know who receives which diet. The subjects should be randomly placed in the keto arm or the non-keto arm. The ketone tests would need to be blinded.
@TravisBrickleKillZone Very difficult. the only possible way I see is locking people in a metabolic ward and feeding them prepared goo like or blended food that people would not be able to tell what the composition is. That would be an extremely expensive trial and seeing that a possible outcome would be that metabolic therapy is a viable treatment and people would need less medications, guess who is not going to fund that trial? But trials don't have to be blinded to be viable and any trial looking at the benefits of being in ketosis have the added benefit of simple tests that determine if the participants are following the diet by measuring their ketone levels.
So, if someone didn’t get the same results from keto, it’s because they weren’t doing it right or didn’t have a keto coach? Not everyone can afford a keto coach, or some people have eating disorders and cannot measure out every single thing they eat. I think it’s time to accept keto is simply not accessible or the solution for everyone.
She has said that multiple times, that it *can* work for people, not that it *will* work (for everyone). She has a recent vid, where she does an interview with a Dr. about people who *can't* do Keto & what other metabolic therapies can they potentially look into, to get some benefits. In *this* vid she was simply pointing out another aspect - that some ppl also *think* they've tried keto, but didn't properly apply it at a medical level. That's all
It's so absolutely mind-blowing watching these more recent videos and I have chills when I see you because I've been watching you since your channel began and have seen you through many ups and downs, and I can see such a difference in your energy and the way that you speak and hold yourself and it's really disgusting and sickening that anyone could say anything mean to you about hoping that you have an episode. Many doctors don't understand these illnesses because they have not experienced them. MANY times we are our own best doctors!!! We feels and KNOW what's helping and what isn't. Not only do I sense a massive difference in your energy and your ability to focus but you just look different behind the eyes now, you look grounded like you have grounded into yourself if that makes sense. I don't think you looked "lost" behind the eyes before but you certainly look like you've found yourself now. You look really happy and healthy and truly healed. I am so so sooo proud of you. I've recommended your channel to many people who I think could benefit, even those of us who do not have schizo effective disorder. So proud of you and also Rob, you two are doing great ❤
When we look back what psychiatric care used to look like decades or even a century ago, we are rightfully astonished how stupid and often cruel the treatments were. I think we'll also look back at the overmedication of our current era as totally short-sighted. I'm glad you're doing great with the keto diet! When I watch your videos I feel like I'm watching a real trailblazer!
I admit, I owe you an apology. I was jealous of your recovery and worried that you quitting meds was a dumb idea. But, after learning more about how psychiatry works here due to support groups that are led by former psychiatrists, and doing research in general, I'm starting to realize that the system really is fucked in general. Nobody knows exactly what they're doing: sometimes meds work, but sometimes you get the wrong med thrown at you because your psych is an idiot, or hurries the diagnosis. After speaking to others, I'm starting to realize that no one has the one true answer. I used to think meds were the answer. Then I started thinking that metabolic therapy was the answer, and I was weak for not being willing to try it. Now, I'm starting to think the truth is in the middle, and that it depends on the person. It's a complicated issue for sure. So, I apologize for being jealous and upset with you for getting to be off meds. I think it's good to have an open discourse about it *and* for both sides to not try to push meds/metabolic therapy on one another, or blame the other side of trying the opposite of what they're doing. At the end of the day, all of us are trying to heal, and this infighting/division into hostile camps is just driving us more and more apart. And I admit that I've been guilty of this as well in the past. Best of luck to us all
@@Julia_Berrrlin I wish , but tbh it's a lot easier to say it anonymously online where nobody knows you and you don't know them. I still definitely mean the apology and what I said up there...but it's a lot easier online than IRL, where there's a lot of mumbling and looking down with shame on my part. But regardless of courage or not (which I personally doubt I have), I still feel it's important to admit when I'm wrong. Especially since I'm quite often wrong XD. Happy Thursday to you. I'm off t have lunch and try to persuade myself to actually have a shower today. Stupid personal hygiene lol
100% agree, both approaches can be usefull, medication might work for some and not for others and metabolic therapies might benefit one person more than the next. Bodies are complicated and we simply don't know enough to have a magical solution that fits everyone the same
My psychiatrist told me that mental health treatment is very often just throwing shit at the wall until something sticks. Hopefully she found her something.
I don't agree with the name change. You still have schizoeffective disorder. You are treating it with diet instead of medications. Which is great! I think that it is useful to have alternative treatments to medications. But even if you have controlled diabetes you are still a diabetic. I think that having controlled schizophrenia is the same. Diabetics have to change their diet if they want to be healthy. Same as you. You are are not "after" your illness. I would say that "Living Better With Schizophrenia" is much more accurate.
@@SaraWinger-ct8hr I agree! But Diabetes is not who someone is either. And I am suggesting titles that say "living ... WITH schizophrenia" not "living AS a schizophrenic". So what I suggested is not saying that people are their illnesses. The second example would be that
Also, schizoaffective disorder can go into remission for years at a time, it's fairly common. Doesn't mean you've hacked the disorder, it just means it's dormant right now. I once went three years without any episodes (because I was on meds), and have been repeatedly ill since. You know all this stuff, it just seems like you're wilfully unlearning.
@@bipolarbeinganddoing8070 I hope this works. It is good to have options for mental health treatment besides medication. But I am still somewhat skeptical.
I was psychotic for a day and then for about a week with paranoia in the background when I was in my twenties. I have never had psychosis since ( twenty years ago) and found out I had asd and am treating that. Getting to the root of what caused a break and never having one again is poss
I think the challenge is the idea of one size fits all. Not everyone responds to medication, not everyone responds the same way to medications. And not everyone can be as specific in their diet or will necessarily benefit as dramatically from lifestyle change. But it is important to give people knowledge about the alternative ways to do things. And this fear that by even mentioning there is something that can be done outside of the strict medical model shouldn't discourage people like you who have seen real results and have done this with a great deal of continued guidance and professional help.
Also keep in mind that most people are extremely bad at lifestyle changes especially when it comes to healthy changes. A pill is still the easier way for people to get rid of psychotic symptoms. But apparently not the only way
This is the medical model. It just has a different face. It's still reducing mental illness to a biological problem and ignoring the human experience of it. It still ignores the mental aspect of mental illness. It might reduce the presence and/or severity of symptoms for some time for some people, but it does nothing to teach a person how to live with or understand their experiences/differences. It is reductive and short-sighted, in my opinion, if not willfully blind and arrogant, as well. I am referring to the treatment approach/philosophy, for the record, not to any individual. I am happy for anyone who finds it helpful. But it does share this issue with conventional psychiatry, and I feel like that needs to be said.
@Cthulhu.Fthagn good points. I should have said it isn't just a medication model. And in fairness, her approach over 9 months has looked to exercise, her relationship with others, she has talked about how she deals with stress and set backs. She has a therapist I think as well as a psychiatrist. Learning to live with a chronic condition really does require a whole person approach.
@@CK1000ism It definitely does. I wish more time would be spent discussing the benefits of other interventions/lifestyle changes, too, and not attributing it all to medical keto. These improvements are entirely possible without metabolic therapies. It's impossible to know how much improvement has been due to keto, as opposed to exercise, social support, therapy, focused effort and intention, etc.
4:33 ….. but u literally are saying you’re cured via your new name and bio.. being in remission and not experiencing symptoms isn’t being healed. I think the scary thing is you’re saying one thing but outwardly expressing another.
This is so amazing. Never stop this youtube channel please. No matter how much people have difficulties with change. Lots of people massivly go against change, even if it can be something good. I find it so special you are giving your perspective.
I love the way Lauren addressed the negative feedback with grace and diplomacy. Great job and thank you Lauren! I made the mistake of giving respectful feedback to an influencer regarding childbirth risks a while back and got the snottiest response, so I greatly appreciate Lauren's respectful and gentle approach. Thank you for your channel Lauren! You're inspiring me to slowly make changes to my own diet and lifestyle to hopefully improve my own mental health over time. 🙏❤
I tried to give some cautionary feedback here her last video and was really attacked. I think she's an amazing, resilient individual with a n amazing husband. They are extremely intelligent and also have financial resources. I tend to think she may have started this journey at a better vantage point to achieve success. Schizophrenia, like most illnesses is on a spectrum. It may be decades until adding metabolic help is recognized in health care. I certainly wish her continued success. I hope more and more govt research becomes committed to this area. This has been a stigmatized illness for centuries sadly. Lauren is such a reasoned, well spoken champion.
It's a nice feeling to suddenly realize that I'm having a "normal" day since I started the Keto diet. Things I thought would never happen while grappling with the schzioaffective disorder. Somethings as simple as going out with friends without symptoms. I can't complain about your videos, they've helped me tremendously.
Thank you for being the voice of this shift and leading the cause for the collective at large! Such a positive contribution and a truly needed change-maker!
As someone who has followed this channel for many years, I'm happy to listen to any changes you go through. The more voices and varied experiences we have from people who live with mental illnesses, the better off we are. You've found a method of management that currently works for you, and sharing that is very helpful even when your experience of managing symptoms is not the same as it may be for anyone else. I think the big take-away is that no one's symptoms and ability to manage symptoms is the same! You touched on that very well in this video.
@@ingridavainauskaite4674 I want to follow A Keto Genic diet too. Because I am a positive person from nature. And I read his book Brain Energy. But the fact still stands, that for some poeple the diet does not work. Its just like medication some work for some people with less symptons, and some work better on symptons
Lauren, this video is so so good. You shared your thoughts and intentions with grace, clarity, and candor. The change in the name of your channel is up to you, and I agree that polarization is very rampant in this cultural moment. The change in your health is momentous and the name change may be provocative, but it also provokes hope that schizophrenia patients have possibilities that MIGHT work for them. Your channel is contrarian to the literally BILLIONS of dollars that the big pharmaceutical companies use to incentivize the medical and insurance industries. You are sharing the hope that has WORKED FOR YOU, and it inspires me to hope that some of what you have done may help my son. THANK YOU. You inspire us, give us hope, and are a unique, educated, and winsome voice that is desperately needed in the very dark world of mental illness for those who have SMI's and for those who care for them.
A Keto based diet has been a life saver for me personally. What matters is also what you actually eat within that diet. You can eat over processed meats and garbage, or you can eat avocados, good beef, chicken, fish, etc. Doing this has given me more mental clarity, energy and far less pain. Thank you for speaking on this and sharing your experiences, you have helped me understand alot of my own neurological differences over the last few years. Also I take supplements of magnesium, potassium, and calcium. Electrolytes and good hydration were the other side of the coin I kept missing.
I absolutely feel with you and I think you are so cautious not to hurt anyone and put anyone off. I think you are a deeply responsible person and do not present the ketogenic diet or metabolic strategies as the only one option even though it worked so well for you. I think we urgently needed a shift in psychiatry and your points are so valid!! Thank you for being so courageous and so differentiated, cautious and understanding. You are a real win and just wonderful thinking of all people with mental diseases with SO MUCH EMPATHY AND COMPASSION, which is very wonderful.
hey lauren you remited my scizophrenia keto forced me off my zyprexa over 5 monthes lowest dose was untolerable. im living my best life now look and feel better than ive ever felt. i have followed you for four years never commented, but i had to let you know what you have done for me. jacob krichten
I think it’s just important to be very cautious about potentially encouraging people to try to go off meds when people with this condition are already inclined to stop medication and get very very sick. And the alternative that would allow someone to go off meds is this very strict diet that requires a lot of effort and executive function. I think as long as you are careful and thoughtful about your messaging, that’s what is important.
Maybe you haven't been watching Lauren's videos. She has NEVER encouraged people to get off their medications. On the contrary, in every video she encourages people to stay on their meds until their doctor has OK'd that they reduce their medication.
@@reinerschafer1708 I know, I’m basically saying I think she does that and that’s what matters the most. I’m just saying that’s all she can do given the situation
So... WHY right on top of your channel is written "I used to live with schizophrenia". 😑 I really don't understand. You admit the misunderstanding but then you don't fix it.
Because she's no longer living with the illness. It says there that she doesn't have any symptoms & is completely off medication. She just has the diagnosys now, not the *experience* of the disease.
Thank you for being a trailblazer in metabolic therapies for mental health. I’m so grateful you are bringing more awareness to the possibilities available for relief. You are one of my heroes! I appreciate how articulate and well spoken you are about everything, too-it is a gift you have.
I am very happy for you and your ability for the metabolic changes and leaning to repair your mental health daily. At the start of this video, you address a name change for this (our) channel. My raw reaction was a kick in the gut and a little sadness. I felt this way because when I was diagnosed, scared, and seeking knowledge, you were here as a friendly face and a relief to know I wasn't alone and I was understood. I hope you do not rid the videos w explanations and guidance on this disorder. This site helped me to be able to have a conversation w family and friends that was packed full of support and answers that we all had. Many of those going through treatments of a multitude of mental challenges would not be able to do this treatments you have for various reasons mostly not have drs to be able w proper knowledge for treatment, lack of being able to do the amount of physical activity do to other heath concerns, diet is also tricky as you know but in just my case I can't eat red meats and low fat. It's frustrating even if I wanted to this it could be risky for other medical issues. From my point of view, I feel this makes me more broken that I don't qualify for this for change. I take so much medicine daily, and I hate it, but I'm kind of trapped. I just stress, please don't take off the very raw and educational videos, especially in the earliest of times. If i showed some of the newest videos to family and friends now 100% they would say see its easy to get over this just do what she does. (Not realistic) this would cause me more harm they good. Hope you understand my point of view? I do wish you a continued life of good health. Thank you
Exactly. For so many people, meds just make them manageable and offer no value to their lives. This diet offers weight loss and reduced symptoms, with the bonus of lower to no meds. Its been around for 100 years. I don't know why people are upset tbh.
I fully support you on this yourney. I have been following a keto diet now for 8 months and I can relate to all the things that you are saying. I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety about 20 years ago and every few years I build up resistance to the medication and had to adapt my medication. Luckily my path crossed with my new psychiatrist and we started metabolic therapy. I can honestly say that it works. I am now on a very light anti-depressant and mood stabiliser and we are working towards stopping the meds. Did not think that I would ever feel as good as I am feeling today. My whole life changed. For the first time in many years a feel alive and not just surviving. Thank you so much for your honesty and courage. I follow you with a hopeful heart.
im really happy that you have found relief in something, escpecially after watching you for a while and seeing you struggling with it for so long. but a few months free of symptoms does not mean symptoms will never return. i don’t want to see yourself or others devastated after their hopes are crushed if symptoms return. please do not proclaim a cure-all to a large audience until until long-term meta-analyses prove it.
Have you watched the whole video? She states very clearly that her symptoms might return and she'd even consider going back on medication if it seems needed in the future.
Love you Lauren for taking this head on and creating dialogue plus clarifying your perspective. Really appreciate this video and you creating a bridge to all this information. Love seeing more options and things to explore in regards to mental illness ❤
I changed my lifestyle, stopped tobacco and drug use, and stepped out of comfort zone in all parameters, which involving staying outdoors and exposing myself to new situations and learning through experience, understanding that the demons waiting outside are not as scary as we imagine them in our heads. I did improve but not cured yet.
You have already changed the lives of many people for the better. I applaud your desire to find ways to make this intervention more widely accessible. The hope, the HOPE! Thinking back to my years suffering with anxiety and depression, I understand the knee-jerk reaction to tell those who suggest ''diet and exercise'' to just F off. For decades we have been told that and tried all of that with no results, it just felt like we were being blamed. This is different. And it needs to be explained clearly as different and supported by solid, well-designed scientific studies. Thank you so much for taking us on your journey.
Those things all seem to improve on a ketogenic diet. Have you looked into it much? the ketogenic diet has more published research on it than any other way of eating. I too was skeptical and did lots of research before adopting it 5 1/2 years ago. I will most likely be on it the rest of my life now due to what it has done for my overall health. It's good to have healthy skepticism though.
I think something that should be reflected upon is that there are many conditions physical and mental that can go into remission but aren't "cured" so to speak. For instance, eating disorders are often thought to not be "cured" or people with cancer. Often, when they go into remission, they still have a proclivity for the cancer to come back. So they don't give up on preventative measures like a yearly CT. Similar to how it is probably recommended that you still see a psychiatrist or therapist while in remission to avoid symptoms to come back. I think you are so brave and graceful and vulnerable to be going through this change and sharing it with us.
Essentially we're ALL in remission from dying/fatally damaging ourselves. None of us are ever cured of this. Alternatively ANYONE without symptoms OR tumours IS cured - BUT we all still have our susceptibility to SOMETHING.
Yes, I’ve been in drug free remission from an autoimmune disease for almost 5 years and even my doctor is hesitant to say I’m cured because he’s seen it come back even after a decade. I go to the rheumatologist annually and if he needs testing, does it
I just want to say that I still love your channel. Thank you for being so candid about your experience with the diet change and how it has positively impacted your mental health. This is one reason I want to eat real foods. I want to end my psychotic episodes that I’m still having even with medication. My hope is that it also reduces my schizoaffective disorder symptoms, in addition to improving my health. I may just stick to a whole foods diet, as the keto diet is too overwhelming to think about right now, but I’m so psyched that it’s resulted in a remission of symptoms for you :). Thanks again, Lauren. and I look forward to watching your future videos 😊
The information you share is life saving. For all. Not just for people with mental health issues. I've been keto for the last 6 weeks now because of you. I am reversing insulin resistance. My friend who is schizoaffective, sadly is not ready yet Found your channel so I could help her. But you're actually helping me lol Thank you so much
It might be the work required to eat such a clean and new diet that's the problem. There are companies that deliver ready made keto meals, if that's the case. Thank you for being such a good friend to someone who really needs you.
@@unitysprings3631 Many people who are mentally ill are on disability and cannot afford ready made keto diets. People will need support to do this diet. If it works I hope eventually insurance will help pay to support people to maintain this diet.
You said "thank you for showing up in this conversation" but truly thank YOU for inviting us to this discussion. We care about this conversation because this conversation has taken care of us, is taking care of us, will take care of us... Us or someone that we care about deeply. To be able to join it means a lot. Thank you !
It's been a long educated up & down journey to and for a lot of us ..... Very insightfull to 👍 You are 1 courageous lady , who's helped thousands , I'm sure . And I'm very happy for you , that you've come this far ! Happy for you and your loved ones ! I'm looking forward to the future , you've become like an extension of my family 💜💞 God Bless 🙏
I'm on a very low dose of medication while on the keto diet. I track everything. This diet is also helping my eating disorder as well as my bipolar. Thanks for bringing us along on this journey.
think the name change is helpful even to people who might still be struggling with mental illness because they see that there may be a way beyond mental illnesses. I think the fact that you shared through your progress does the same thing. People can see that there is hope.
@@gracegrace1896 I think if you want to get treated properly it is good to have the right label. Before I got diagnosed with the "correct" label I went to the mental hospital 5 times in one year. That said, they don't know enough about mental illness to do a very good job on the DSM. But being mislabeled is horrible in my experience.
I'm really happy for you. I started watching you in 2018 after my husband got out of the hospital for bipolar. You have been a huge help for me. I knew in my heart that there was a better way. Seeing the way the hospitals handled everything..the whole experience. You were like my best friend through all of it. Keep going. Keep going. You have given me so much hope for him and our family.
It's not for any of us to say what you should and shouldn't do with your channel, it's *your* channel. But I've found your content very alienating recently, and the shift to talking almost exclusively about keto has been kind of bizarre. Personally I don't understand how someone can go from having repeated, severe episodes, to it all being fixed with diet. I would understand if you'd had one episode and they never returned, or that your episodes were induced by something other than schizophrenia, but it's not as if keto is some big secret that big Pharma are keeping from us and you are shedding light on ancient secrets, but that's what it feels like watching the channel now. As I said, your channel, do what you want with it, but I know a lot of us in the schizophrenia community (going off the r/schizophrenia subreddit at least) feel like this isn't really a place where we can come for identification, advice or validation any more. In that respect, it's good you've changed the name of your channel, because this is not a channel about mental illness or for mentally ill people any more, it's a channel for a diet that lots of people with schizophrenia can't afford. Good luck with it, anyhow.
I just like having the extra choices and knowledge about treatments for mental illnesses, because I can't take meds. I think though she is probably telling the truth about her symptoms in remission, and it would be weird to make videos about experiences she isn't having anymore. I know it's hard to believe someone could do something like keto and control symptoms with anything besides meds, but the science being studied on metabolic issues and how mental illness might be connected is fascinating to me, the human body is complicated and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if keto turns out to be a really great treatment in the future. The reason it seems too good to be true is because she is really early and it still needs more proof. I'm not ready to try keto for my issues, but it's nice to know there is an option. It's nice to see Lauren feeling better, kinda gives me hope after the mental health system hasn't improved my situation.
@@haleyb.1269Why can't you take meds? I have issues with antipsychotics and find myself in a very bad place when I try. My psychologist labelled me with BPD and thinks that ist the reason for my struggles with pills, my psychiatrist diagnosed me with SAD and swears I should be better after eight weeks taking them regularly. But after two weeks I feel like my body is weakening, can't breathe and get sugar binges, depressions, irregular heart beat.🥵
There are studies showing that keto diet really helps with mental illness. Those studies are very recent. Having a keto professional is not realistic for everyone, but there are books and articles about keto diet out there and I think it is worth giving a try.
You call it bizarre, like it's some sort of weird obsession... You do realise she has/had a quite severe form of the illness, and with this diet it's *gone* now, right? I mean she doesn't experience any symptoms & isn't on medication anymore. She's no longer experiencing this illness to the degree that she even changed her channel name. So... how can that be bizarre? It's literally been miraculous for her. More bizarre for me is people not even realising this happened, even though they follow they channel. Lol
Lauren, you are an inspiration. Thank you for sharing your story. From my encounters, many of those who are mentally ill love it. They love being able to call themselves special and have a label. I think that's where the criticism comes in. You are someone who seeks a better life because you're not selfish. When you are being the best version of you, you can be the best version of you for your loved ones. I'm all about improving who I am and shaking any labels or diagnoses I may receive. The people saying they hope you have a psychotic break are just evil. I truly wish you all the best with this journey and this is such an inspiring message of hope that you're sharing. I don't believe any of us are sick. I think we make ourselves sick with the things we consume but the human body is incredible and powerful. Our cells literally regenerate and make us new. I believe your illness is healed and you ARE living well AFTER Schizophrenia.
I did functional medicine and auto-immune Paleo diet. I have got rid of 90 percent my symptoms. And I was hospitalized 3 times, before I did this diet. I was very sick. Now I'm almost off my meds and only symptom is anxiety and mumbling voices. I'm going to go on carnivore/ keto to try to be totally symptom free. I'm very inspired by your channel. Thanks for spreading awareness about natural treatments. I've been cheating on my diet before listening to your channel and now I feel excited to really commit to my health and be totally symptom free. Thanks
All the best to you Lauren. There is no doubt that things can get better with better nutrition. I am on the lowest dose of medication and taking care of my diet to improve my quality of life. I am feeling a lot better too. Thanks for the support that you are giving to the community at large especially to the mentally challenged community. Thanks so much. Your words mean a lot❤❤
I'm a human with autism who has found relief from symptoms with methylated folate and a protein forward diet. I still take a low dose of medication which I see as part and parcel of controlling my anxiety and depression that comes from my condition. I guess my issue is with the one size fits all nature, since many of us struggle with eating in the first place, and disordered eating usually.
I don’t mind what you name your channel. It’s your channel, your life, your experience and 100% your choice. I really enjoy your content. I work in mental health as an advocate to support people experiencing mental illness in having their voice heard, their preferences for treatment respected so they can have autonomy over their lives. No judgment from me. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge. ❤
From seeing my mom go through this for about 25 years, it never goes away. The outward Symptoms are stronger and more apparent to us some times more than others
I'm happy i had viewed your channel dealing with my own mental challenges. Some years ago my sister was diagnosed with schizophrenia and with many of your videos in fresh memory, it have helped me to try to make our relationship better. Thanks
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the approach you have taken to responding to criticism. Although I do understand some of the concerns that people may have, ultimately you have to do what is best for you., and by all means, if you have found a way to put the symptoms of your serious mental illness into remission, please share it with the world!! It gives me so much hope that there COULD be something out there that could help me or others that are struggling. What you call your channel does not change that. If people take the name of your channel and interpret from that that they’re going to be cured, then it means that they didn’t actually watch any of your videos. If people are actually invested in wanting to get better and finding hope, then they have to put the time in, which means fully watching the videos or doing their own research. That is on them, not you. We need more people in this world like you, who try to start a conversation rather than an argument. Thank you for sharing your journey and providing information in a professional way, and with the added reality that you were living it! Your channel has and still does provide so much hope for me. Please keep it up. If you see this, will you be doing any updates on antipsychotic withdrawal? I’m currently in the middle of it myself.
You are an inspiration Lauren. Please do not stop sharing or be discouraged by negative things others say. Your real unfiltered sharing is so refreshing and you are making a HUGE impact in so many lives. Ketogenic Treatment is real and effective for many so we all need to share our stories.
Keto is so worth it when your symptoms go into remission. Yea the American diet is “fun” but when it affects your mood and triggers my symptoms is not fun anymore. Keto lifestyle for me has been very lonely specially because the fact that my diagnosis is my big secret- I haven’t shared with my family and friends yet so they just think I’m in a strict diet to lose weight so they often tell me to “live a little” and eat the junk. Keto has helped me like nothing else has!
Ya kno, I did keto about a year before your journey and my own experiences did make me think about your channel. Then we saw you start the journey and I couldn't have been more overjoyed for you. Congratulations are definitely in order
I believe that you are experiencing a total remission of the symptoms (as. Medical language). I really true believe in medical keto because I started as I said in another comment to eating carbs here and there so I experienced the symptoms get worse. In a popular linguage I am pretty sure that you are cured from at least the symptoms. I hope you keep going and can overcome this kind of negative comments. The world needs to know about your remission. I wish to you all the best.
You’re doing a great thing Lauren. Keep it up. I think that maybe you have had such a great and fairly rapid response, is because at least by already exercising and being thin and relatively metabolically healthy…pre Keto…those might be factors for the robust response. Something to keep in mind. I have had a tremendous response with a strict medical keto diet for severe resistant depression and social anxiety. For 5 months was basically in remission, slumped back to mild depression doing the same things but am working on getting back to feeling 100%. The other benefits, best physical health in my life, have lost 115lbs in 15 months, have a lot of energy, exercise daily, gut issues gone, sleep way better and feel rested, I can go on and on. So I’m a lifer for Keto…just gotta make some tweaks. I’m not sure why some people are so skeptical. I think it is more likely the chronic sufferers and much older people than yourself would be my guess. It is hard having dealt with a chronic illness for many many years without help from any medication combos and from your best efforts. It is demoralizing. Me included. 27 years of unrelenting, debilitating depression. Many years lost. No family of my own, no girlfriend for many years, not able to work in my career of music consistently, and most years unable to work. Pretty depressing quality of life over these 27 years of depression. So there are a lot of us out there. I think you should keep in mind that many people with something that looks similar and didn’t have the trajectory that you have had may feel bitter about their situation and may be projecting on you, so that is something to keep in mind. I am not one of those people…I am all for this modality. But as bad as your story is and what you have gone through, there are a lot more worse stories with very chronic and debilitating lives…so something to keep in mind. For future content. I would love to see videos and videos with experts regarding hurdles and barriers of keto for mental illness. How to optimize, how to keep it working, etc. Things like electrolyte imbalances, salt intake, exercise to optimize keto like HIIT, adjunctive natural therapies like cold therapy. And of course my main interest is troubleshooting why keto works less now for me and others than in the beginning. That is for mental illness. Because the physical benefits just keep coming. Thanks:)
I just did therapy tonight on all of this and went into depth on how to put mental health issues like ADHD and depression into remission given once it’s a chemical imbalance it isn’t something like a computer where you can say “ control alt delete “ and be good. But I like the word remission better because you are just simply managing the underlined issue rather then the symptoms and if there are genetically components or if there is pre dispositions issues you can’t stop it for ever but you can put it into remission by being repetitive in healthy basic habits like Lauren is talking about. And sometimes like she said medication is needed and I still need it to a small degree but in other things you can learn.
So nice to see you doing better, one of your previous videos mentioned that medication was not working also side-effects were unbareable. Knowing you have real joy, clarity, and hope for a brighter future ✨️.
It is interesting to think about how something as impactful as this might be made accessible to people with additional barriers, like agoraphobia, ARFID, MCAS, other medical conditions that affect what foods you can eat safely, etc. There are SO many facets to why ketogenic medical interventions are inaccessible, but I wonder what kind of research this will inspire in the future.
Until pharmaceutic companies figure out how to put the ketogenic diet into a capsule, it will not be widely recommended in the medical field and obviously they are not going to fund research on it. It will be up to private funders, who are not profit motivated, like the Baszucki Group NGO to fund studies,... as they are currently doing
sadly ofc it is very inaccessible to many people with dietary restrictions. however i find MANYY mcas sufferers (especially extreme cases) tend to naturally have a lower carb diet as the foods theyr able to eat dont seem to ever contain the significantly carby stuff lol. seems like bread and grains are a bit to new to our diets to be accepted by our bodies once stuff like MCAS comes around loll
@@reinerschafer1708this definitely already exists (for different purposes than current convo but v adjustsble.) Not as a capsule but as something that can be jus pumped into ur guts. however that wuld be a really hard sell… u’d need a rly extreme case of med resistant schizophrenia to convince even a keto receptive doctor to switch you to a liquid feeding tube diet lol
@@stephenie44 I am sure that you know this but I am stating it for other people who might not know it: Chicken and cheese are keto but definitely not simple carbs!
Your content is just amazing Lauren, I’m sure you’re opening doors never opened before. It’s difficult to be a pioneer don’t give up and I hope you can definitely come up here and state that you’re cured. People can be cured from many diseases why would it be different in this case! Keep up the great work and don’t let people negative reactions get in the way! ❤
Hope is a powerful motivator. The name change gives people hope that this terrible illness isn’t a life long sentence… you give people hope that you can actually move into remission. The word remission doesn’t mean cured - it means you are symptom free for now but no one knows what the future holds. Keep up the positive messages, you have inspired many viewers.
Good on you. When I was first diagnosed I was totally against medication and I still believe that with the right talking therapy I would have been able to manage my symptoms (maybe). However, the dr t that diagnosed me said that without medication my symptoms would not go away that was 23 years ago. I had my first involuntary admission to a psychiatric hospital in 2020 and now I’m scared of even bringing up the subject of tapering off medication. All the best and well done for all your hard work
I love how you are so inclusive and respectful while being true to yourself. There is no one size fits all with mental health and you are a perfect example of that. I'm so grateful to you!
My hat's off to you Lauren!! You don't know how much respect I have for you, your kindness, compassion and resilience. That goes for Rob too! Some of these ignorant comments blow me away. But you can't let the naysayer's dictate your life or let it get under your skin. Which is why I respect how you've ALWAYS been. A gentle soul. From the creation of this channel to now you've always been one of the most thoughtful people I've ever come across. You deserve an award for how honest and thoughtful you are! :) I'm schizophrenic. I've been on medicine for over 2 decades. I started the diet and it didn't work out for me the first time around. Just like you! I gave it a second shot and have been adhering to the keto diet in addition to metabolic therapies now for 7 months. And I've never felt better! My medications have been reduced drastically and I have hope for the future again. 'Nough said. Keep smiling! You, Dr. Palmer, the Baszucki Group, Metabolic Minds as well as many others are more than on the right track. Congrats for all you've accomplished and will accomplish!
@@kata6966 Yes, of course. First, I'd like to mention I'm not doing this alone. I am working with my doctors and we carefully monitor not only my mental health but physical health as well. I do not advise anyone do this on their own nor am I giving medical advice. And my doctor's certainly do not advise doing this on your own. I must note that dietary interventions are different for everyone. Each persons health is different and so are their goals. You need to work with your doctor's. Now, with that being said, I'd also like to say the medical ketogenic diet intervention has profound effects on brain function. If, your doubtful of that, take a look into the last 100 years of research done on how effective the ketogenic diet has been on epilepsy. To say it's been a miracle on how effective it is is nothing to sneeze at. There is research being done regarding the medical ketogenic diet at many prominent universities. Harvard, Stanford Medicine, John Hopkins School of Medicine, the University of Oxford, James Cook University etc.. I'm not a doctor but if you want to hear from those who are there is a plethora of information online that explains better than I can the importance of mitochondria, how it works, hows it's related to metabolic health and how the keto diet addresses these issues. Feel free to start by looking up Dr. Christopher Palmer. A Harvard Psychiatrist. I also must mention I am not anti-psychiatry. Medications have helped me. But, they've also been the root cause of many health issues I've had to deal with for over 2 decades. And in my humble opinion, if patients were given an option to help control symptoms without the side effects of huge doses of psychiatric medicine that ruin lives, I'd opt for a healthy resolution. I wish I knew 20 years ago what I know now. There's no way you could keep me away from metabolic therapies. Of course, the main component of it being making a dietary intervention towards the medical ketogenic diet. Now to directly answer your question. It's simple. Yes, I use the medical ketogenic diet for my mental and physical health. And I strictly adhere to it. It's a change. And like I said in my post above, I failed the first time around. But that doesn't mean there still isn't hope. I tried again and have been on it for 7 months now. It's been life changing. I feel unbelievably better and my medications have been reduced. As I see it, it can only get better from here. Also I'm still on medications. And that's ok. I'm not bothered by that. Maybe one day I'll be off of them completely. Maybe I'll just be at a much lower dose. Only time will tell. Other things I do to improve my metabolic health is exercise regularly. I try to stay on a regular sleep pattern. I take supplements. I've made changes in my life to reduce stress. I have a therapist I speak with regularly. I avoid drugs and alcohol. I'm working part time again. And now that I'm feeling more alive, I'm doing things that give my life meaning and purpose. I do things that make me feel good. And I couldn't have done it without the medical ketogenic diet, the help of my doctors, as well as the help of the online community including Lauren's dedicated work, Dr. Christopher Palmer, The Baszucki Group, and Metabolic Minds to name a few. So, to end, I'd just like to say I'm very moved and gracious by those involved in this field of psychiatry and all I want to say is Thank you! Thank you for bringing me life again!
@@redman131000 Thank you for your reply. I will share your comment with my son. Our dilemma is we can't find doctors who are familiar with the ketogenic diet and/or who can help my son properly taper off of his medication.
@@kata6966 You're more than welcome. I hope your son can find the help he needs. I forgot to mention two other things I do that help me. The first being meditation. I try to meditate everyday. And I also do intermittent fasting from time to time. Intermittent fasting can be a powerful tool in metabolic therapy.
I am so happy for you, so excited for you and hope people will reflect instead of lash out on someone over the internet. People can be so jealous, hateful and negative. Your doing the right thing trying to do whats best for YOU!
I hope you can link up with the right people in the medical industry so they can study this!!!! I know so many studies have been done with medical keto but every single case is a little different. And it's absolutely fascinating to me how carbs and sugar can effect the brain. It's so so interesting
She's already linked up with the Bazucki Group (the founders' son went into remission from bipolar disorder with metabolic therapy) and they are currently running several studies on metabolic therapies for mental disorders.
I can relate. In the last year I have been taking a methylated b complex, magnesium, reduced histamine foods & oxalates, no sugar or bad processed food. I also took a nervous system reset class. I am experiencing things in a different way for the first time. I’m on a 5 hour car trip by myself to a place I’ve never gone and I had to pack all my own food. No anxiety, no brain fog. It’s amazing. There are nutrient based treatments out there- and they work so much better than I imagined. Best to you. I feel like I am in remission! 😊
Laren, i just watched a video you did one year ago and you were talking about your paranoia, etc, and this qas while on medications. I'm so glad to hear you no longer have those issues while NOT on medications.
We deal with something similar within the autism community, but much worse. There are large portions of the online ASD community that reframe the condition as a personality trait and are actively trying to cancel research into treatments. And when questioned, they know NOTHING about the biological basis of the condition. It's extremely concerning. I wish you all the best with your journey and thank you for giving us some hope.
That’s why I desperately dodge most autism communities online. They helped me as a kid learning to grow up with autism but now because of stuff like this I hesitate to even engage with it. There’s too many people acting as if having a condition makes them an expert on it in its entirety and stuff that’s not even remotely grounded in research gets passed around as a gospel.
Want to send some love your way. I loved your channel before and love it even more now. I’m so happy to see you manage your illness in a way that lets you show up fully in your life. It gives me hope for my loved ones with similar illnesses.
I think the effectiveness of the keto diet may come down to what other metabolic health related obstacles you are facing. I have bipolar disorder and am also trying keto, also for the second time. It’s working for me but not as well as for Lauren, and I think it’s because I’ve suffered some trauma. I’m hoping the keto diet will help me deal with the trauma as I reduce the medication, though I’ve made sure I have support around me when doing this.
Some people have a problem with understanding and respecting we are all individuals and what can work for 1 person might not be effective for others You’ve found what works for you and i personally am so pleased and proud of you
I hope you stay relapse free for the rest of your life, and that you experience enough healing to enjoy carbs again one day☺️ I'm two weeks into my own metabolic therapy journey to treat my schizophrenia. Wish me luck☺️
If you continue to listen to critical feedback and continue to be honest without yourself, I think you'll end up helping a lot of people. Exploring alternative approaches to managing symptoms, especially when the traditional path has not given you the outcome you really need is sometimes how really important breakthroughs in understanding a condition happen.
You’re doing really important work by finding words to navigate this conversation. Even outside of mental health keto triggers a lot of intense feelings and polarization. It’s exciting to see the advocacy you are doing through your channel!
I 100% respect any changes you feel like you need to make to the channel or your life to reflect your new inner self. I just feel like, realistically, you will always have this disorder. Progress isn't a straight line, it's a spiral. You have times of revelation and success and reprieve, and there are times of regression. That's everything in life, not just mental illness. Your diet and treatment has to be SO carefully monitored and maintained. I'm sure it's exhausting for you, but not nearly as exhausting as schizoaffective disorder. But, inevitably, you will have slip ups and down turns. I think it's up to you ultimately, obviously, but I feel like changing the entire nature of your content to conquering the disorder will make sharing those negative experiences all the more difficult for you. Maybe causing you feelings of unnecessary shame or defeat. What I'm saying is not trying to discourage you at all, just being realistic. I think this keto metabolic therapy is genuinely incredible, and I'm stoked to learn more about it through your content. But I think running away with all these feelings of success and enlightenment is skewing your view of what might happen in the future. We're here for your journey, not just your success, but how you've navigated the hard times. I also feel like the tone your content has skewed negatively towards modern traditional medicine. While I think that the system is completely messed up and a trash fire, it also does help people and get it right sometimes. It's amazing to encourage people to seek alternative treatments, and do research, and to advocate for themselves when nothing is working, without also fostering distrust in people's minds for what could help them and is more accessible. You are very priviledged to have access to these doctors and this treatment. So many people with this disorder are not so lucky. Trying everything is valuable. And I will have to stop watching if that's the attitude going forward. It's amazing that this worked *for you*, it's not guaranteed to work for everyone, and I feel like your content has gotten more and more.. Pushy.. In that respect. That's the only word I can think of right now. Those are my thoughts. I'm sorry if they were unwelcome, but I'm so happy this is working for you and you feel better! ❤
To be 100% transparent, I'm AuDHD, and also struggle with anxiety. I was recently diagnosed with this. Before I was dx'd with bipolar disorder since I was a teenager, and the medication caused me permanent kidney damage. So I *personally* empathize with the discouragement and mishaps the medical system can cause. But there's a balance. I don't inherently distrust doctors, I just have to be much more careful with how I handle my treatment. I'm FINALLY properly medicated, for literally the first time in my life. But I'm not "cured" and I will never be cured, and I don't go around telling all of my neurodivergent friends that my particular cocktail is the answer. That's what I'm getting at.
I honestly don't think her attitude is hostile, or anti-establishment, or in anyway (prob) extreme as you perceive it... Tbh, the words *you used* to describe the medical system is 100x worse than anything she ever said...
@@dyawr I said the tone has been pushy. And I'm not saying she said that my guy. I'm not perceiving anything extremely. She hasn't directly *said* much about the medical system. I just think her personal frustration with it, mixed with the new world she discovered of a more holistic diet based approach to treating her illness, has made the tone of her content lean in that direction. The truth of the matter is, not everyone has access to or can afford what she's doing, and it won't work for everyone the same way. It's great for her, but if the tone of her content changes to this is *the way* to "cure" her disorder, I feel like it's a dangerous and disheartening path for not only herself but for people who are desperate for answers and can't do what she's doing. She also, fundamentally, is not cured, it's in regression, and there will be bumps in the road. That's all I'm saying.
We're so happy for you Lauren. I think while discussion on the use of metabolic therapy is important in patient groups, it's really up to the person themselves on what works best for managing their mental health and life. I don't think other people have the right to impose one way or the other. But for myself, I do notice a marked improvement in reducing depressive symptoms, dissociative symptoms, and perhaps reduce the risk of mania when I am paying attention to my diet and reducing fats, added sugars, and acids. Conversely, whenever I am eating well but return to habitual eating where I consume whatever I crave -- I often end up feeling depressed and potentially end up in a dissociative episode. What I mean is, metabolic therapy with licensed professionals is something we - as a plural system - want to try so it's easier to engage in the world... Nobody can take that instinct for us to try away from us, and we won't impose what other people need to do for themselves. Trust your mind, your heart, and your instincts -- even if it doesn't agree with the people around you. You're either right, or you're facing a consequence that you're most capable of handling than otherwise. But hey-- that's just advice that works for ~us.~ And that's the whole point. ;)
If it really was "after", you wouldn't need to constantly do the diet. It's more how you have chosen to manage this, I think. The thing is, these disorders can be episodic anyway. I went off meds for bipolar 1 for a year. Felt great at first. Ended up in crisis. Back on meds. Then wonder if it's too risky to stop meds (yes, I have been wondering it as I am tired of gaining over 25kg, which came off when off the meds).
Time will tell. If someone doesnt eat peanuts with peanut allergy, that's considered smart - she found lifestyle changes to not experience her symptoms, very smart
I like the message the new name gives - if I hadn't ever watched the channel and came across it, I'd think, "oh, that's interesting, I didn't know there was a cure for schizophrenia", and I'd watch and learn something new. The work Lauren's done is amazing (I've tried keto and found it ridiculously hard) and I think the honesty she's approached it with it inspiring. Negativity in the comments can't diminish that 😊
You inspired me to go low carb and I finally lost weight. I had to lose weight because of my family history of physical aliments. And being black put me at risk for many things. I think you should definitely keep doing this because it really has helped me. My doctor asked me whatever I was doing, to keep doing it. I think you are a lifesaver.
Yes, when I told my doctor I was doing a ketogenic diet, she was quite concerned I would do more harm than good. The following year, after all my health markers had improved, as well as losing 50 lbs., she told me to keep doing what I was doing because its obviously working.
I have to say you were absolutely brilliant and so articulate it’s a pleasure to listen to you. I am so proud of you and what you’re doing, and I really hope that you can quantify or define it where it’s something we could look at and try and follow as well. It’s difficult when we’re just listening to a video and we don’t know where to begin in our part of the world. But if you were able to, quantify it or define it and put it in writing that is something, as a person, would love to have in dealing with my daughter that has this. Thank you.
I'm on food stamps and SSI, I live alone and I have diagnoses of schizoaffective disorder, autism, and ADHD, and I've eaten clean keto for over 5 years now. Yes, grassfed meat, organic chicken, only organic vegetables, etc. I live in a state that has the HIP program so that's an extra $40/month for fresh veggies/fruit. Because it took me forever to figure out all my food sensitivities, it was a gradual transition and I just kind of landed close to keto, and then made the jump when I saw how a friend ate over the course of a weekend. I thought, I could do that, it's worth a shot, I'll see how I feel. People really have no idea how expensive processed foods are, beverages, juice, candy bars, getting a coffee every day (even the least expensive one LOL), picking up a snack at a convenience store, canned soup. But feeling good is the BEST feeling. When I find out what makes me not feel sick, it doesn't seem like a sacrifice. I like feeling good, so I do what it takes, and the more I do what works for my body, the easier it becomes to keep up with it. I also stopped gaining weight, and eventually I was able to start exercising again after that. I also want to say that it doesn't have to be an immediate change - when I started I had so much cognitive impairment it was often hard to get myself to prepare *any* food (I trained some friends that when I called and needed help, all I needed was them to stay on the phone with me when I braved opening up the fridge, and somehow the social engagement system in my brain helped me decide what to eat) and sometimes I still end up eating leftover mashed potatoes with cheese for dinner if I've used up all my spoons for the day, and it's not the end of the world. I get back to keto the next day. I know it doesn't work for everyone, but I felt "off" whenever I went below 50 net carbs/day, so I do get to eat a little bit of potatoes. I hope sharing my story will encourage someone to give it a try and not give up if it's hard at first. It's amazing when you look back at just how many small changes add up over the course of a year or two. So much has become automatic that I don't even have to think about any more. It does get easier to maintain.
Your story is absolutely inspirational! I hope Lauren asks you onto her channel to talk about it. I'm just starting to learn to 'train friends' in how to help me when cognitive stuff is bad. You're right how connection and being there helps. And I like your approach of small steps. Lauren did many of those in her fitness and relationships, before she attempted keto. And we do need folk demonstrating how to eat cleanly on a budget. At this rate you'll be so fit, you moved to a smallholding in the country and supply other folk with organic food! Maybe doing other folks' gardens, on condition you get half the produce and are allowed to do it organically, would be a halfway step?
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I guess my issue is it’s giving the impression you’re cured and don’t have schizophrenia anymore
All she can do is keep saying over and over again, as she does, that she doesn't believe she no longer has the illness, but rather her symptoms are no longer an issue for her, at least for now.
@@reinerschafer1708 Yes, but the new channel name contradicts what she says in her videos.
Im sorry but schizophrenia doesnt just vanish. Telling yourself you dont have it doesnt mean you dont. Just like if i say im a cheeseburger doesnt mean i am. I hope you never have an episode again but the likelihood of this to be true is slim to none. Your giving false hope to people and this is think isnt right.
@@Catlily5 my point exactly.
Please give her time, she is doing her best, schizophrenia is not a exact science she has already changed the name so just wait, maybe she will find another suitable name in the future so don’t nitpick…
Using the phrase “after schizophrenia” IS suggesting you do not have the condition anymore which is misleading because in theory based on the information you have shared if you stopped your keto diet then the symptoms would resume (indicating there is still an underlying condition).
Agree.
If I were to find my face swells every time I eat strawberries, so I stop eating strawberries, should I be diagnosed with a face-swelling disorder or a strawberry allergy?
I mean if you're taking the title literally that would be many peoples assumption. She never said she was cured or that its possible to cure it. Maybe she means it more in a metaphorical way because she's not experiencing symptoms with this treatment. Why not just let her be if she's happy and healthy. Nothing wrong with psych meds, I take them myself. If she found a way to do it without meds why is that a bad thing?
Well said.well said....❤i@@candycewindels1337
@@candycewindels1337 a better title might be: "Living well after managing Schizophrenia".
The issue remains that the new channel title implies that you no longer have a Schizophrenia Spectrum Illness/Disorder. For a population that frequently have issues with medical compliance, this is dangerous.
Two things can be true at once:
I can be cheering for your success with metabolic therapies, and can also hold strong concerns about the way you're now approaching discussion of the illness **you still have**. To imply that those with concerns are engaging in polarisation and black and white thinking is black and white itself - it doesn't acknowledge that many of us with strong concerns wish you well with the metabolic therapies you're engaged with, and hope for a future for you that remains free of the symptoms of Schizophrenia.
I think the original title of the channel is better because like you mentioned you still have the disorder but are symptom free ... So you truly are Living Well with Schizophrenia.
I also felt the original title was positive and hopeful. The new title sounded like false delusional Hope of being completely "cured". I feel that can be dangerous and misleading to others who have the same condition.
But if you want to change your channel's name, thats up to you! Happy you are doing great and feeling better! 😊🎉
Well said.
Its her choice to change her channel name. And its her choice to influence 300k+ people with false promises.
The idea is really that she's rediscovered herself and her identity is no longer obscured by the shadow of illness. Makes perfect sense to me . . .
@@WaitingtoHit Loren asked everyone's opinion on the channel name change. I like the original name better. It's her channel she can change the name however she wants. It's not really a big deal.
@@nesxya I feel the same, it was so fitting and meaningful! It was perfect actually. I could understand why she'd be so ready to make a change and distance herself from the illness but something about the new title just doesn't feel right.
This is way too soon jumping ahead very fast.
I think delving into the downside of keto is something that you have not entertained or really discussed. The experts you have referenced are all in one camp. It would, I think, be more well-rounded to reference other view points. There are some very real, well studied, scientifically based concerns with keto. I believe it is actually dangerous to not at least include the other side as part of this whole discussion. There will be pros and cons to all interventions, we should also discuss the cons.
You would think with the increasing popularity of keto and the millions of people around the world on the diet, we would hear lots on how sick people are getting while on the diet, yet there is very little indeed. The only thing I really hear is that it sometimes will raise LDL cholesterol quite a bit. But even in the most incriminating studies, high LDL cholesterol only has a 1.3 hazard ratio for heart disease. If I had a mental illness I could control by just changing my diet, even if there was a 30% chance of increasing heart disease I would for sure still do it just because of the betterment of quality of life.
Also, please remember when you see studies poo-pooing anything that people seem to find beneficial in some way, look to see who is funding the study and what motives they may have.
@@reinerschafer1708 Ditto 💪🏾
yes. that, and that it is a Medical keto application that effects the mitochondria And NOT an unsupervised commercial keto diet. THere is a lot to know how, when, and why Medical keto can or can not work on brain disorders. I would also like to know that those on the keto "bandwagon" handle those who can not or do not respond well. what does science need to investigate? there's nothing worse than those who work in the science fields shutting the door on true scientific open mindedness. maybe the name of the channel should be living well after acute symptoms of M.I.?
Keto diet is litterally toxic long term. There are a lot of studies about this. It can be followed only for brief periods of time. She is prospecting keto diet lifelong...
Keto diet is definetly helping her brain, but she doesn't know which impact is having on the other organs, we need them too
Maybe look at videos put out as early as 3 months ago? The name of your channel changed the day BEFORE you stopped your meds. That was somewhat premature. Maybe wait a few months after trying your new diet, then report back? You're addressing a group of people who already have medication compliance issues. It's dangerous.
That's exactly why dislike her content!! It's like she's sharing a lot of information that can lead people who already find it hard to keep up with their med intake to have even more doubts.... Also doing it as a "live experiment" and sharing it as she goes along.. it's so dangerous
Yes, but it was the last dose of what was 4x less than the minimal therapeutic dose for her medication. She had been on 2x less & lower, for 4 months already.
And she did have the experience of total symptom withdrawal relatively early on, which didn't change as she kept lowering her medication. But it *did* change when she was trown out of ketosis for some reason. So the connection & understanding of her brain's response to the diet was clear, not something like naive hope...
@@dyawr i never said her process was WRONG, i am saying that the success is momentary and that there is absolutely ZERO proof that this will be sustainable long term, much less that such a treatment will work for the audience that follows her. Therefore, sharing all this information to a susceptible audience is very dangerous.
@@juliamollcerda2570 With all due respect, that is your unresearched opinion & guess...
@@dyawr you don't know how much research i have been doing. I myself have a chronic mental health illness and would be happy to believe that a diet would make me not have to medicate on the daily. But alas, there's no research to back it longterm and i am not willing to risk my mental health with this experiment. I think she shouldn't be promoting it. If you want you can refer to real psychiatrists on youtube like Tracey Marks who explore this issue as well, from a scientific standpoint.
And then there are people who weigh food, track macros, check blood ketones and maintain good ketone levels with a keto coach and do not have improvement. What works for one person may not work for another. It’s true with medicine and it’s true with other therapies too.
Very glad you are doing well.
Would love to see really good blinded randomized trials.
Absolutely. My personal hypothesis on this is that it depends on what the cause of the mitochondial dysfunction is. If it was caused by heavy metals for instance, the chance of changing your diet to fix it is probably low.
@TravisBrickleKillZone Off the top of my head: I think that you could have a diet that is quite low carb (not in ketosis) and one that is keto (significant ketosis) and subjects would not know. THe researchers who are evaluating symptoms must not know who receives which diet. The subjects should be randomly placed in the keto arm or the non-keto arm. The ketone tests would need to be blinded.
@TravisBrickleKillZone Very difficult. the only possible way I see is locking people in a metabolic ward and feeding them prepared goo like or blended food that people would not be able to tell what the composition is. That would be an extremely expensive trial and seeing that a possible outcome would be that metabolic therapy is a viable treatment and people would need less medications, guess who is not going to fund that trial?
But trials don't have to be blinded to be viable and any trial looking at the benefits of being in ketosis have the added benefit of simple tests that determine if the participants are following the diet by measuring their ketone levels.
So, if someone didn’t get the same results from keto, it’s because they weren’t doing it right or didn’t have a keto coach? Not everyone can afford a keto coach, or some people have eating disorders and cannot measure out every single thing they eat. I think it’s time to accept keto is simply not accessible or the solution for everyone.
She has said that multiple times, that it *can* work for people, not that it *will* work (for everyone). She has a recent vid, where she does an interview with a Dr. about people who *can't* do Keto & what other metabolic therapies can they potentially look into, to get some benefits.
In *this* vid she was simply pointing out another aspect - that some ppl also *think* they've tried keto, but didn't properly apply it at a medical level. That's all
Is a cult just a veganism
I tried the keto diet under a dietician for 3 months but it didn’t change my mental health, I may work for others though- just another perspective x
She address exactly this. Maybe watch the whole video before commenting.
@@LWilkesTheir comment is completely valid, and your response speaks to an unhealthy level of attachment to a content creator.
@@LWilkesshe also says that a lot of people are just not doing keto right and that's why it's not working. That is misinformation.
It's so absolutely mind-blowing watching these more recent videos and I have chills when I see you because I've been watching you since your channel began and have seen you through many ups and downs, and I can see such a difference in your energy and the way that you speak and hold yourself and it's really disgusting and sickening that anyone could say anything mean to you about hoping that you have an episode. Many doctors don't understand these illnesses because they have not experienced them. MANY times we are our own best doctors!!! We feels and KNOW what's helping and what isn't. Not only do I sense a massive difference in your energy and your ability to focus but you just look different behind the eyes now, you look grounded like you have grounded into yourself if that makes sense. I don't think you looked "lost" behind the eyes before but you certainly look like you've found yourself now. You look really happy and healthy and truly healed. I am so so sooo proud of you. I've recommended your channel to many people who I think could benefit, even those of us who do not have schizo effective disorder. So proud of you and also Rob, you two are doing great ❤
True... so beautifully put ❤
WOW !!!! the fact that she has to say SHE IS NOT saying she no longer has the illness ... says alot of people who jumped to that conclusion. !!!!!
What works for one may not for an other... she has the right to seek what is the best for HER CARE/DRS TEAM. NOT YOURS.
SHAMEFUL TO SLAM HER. !!!!
You are an incredible advocate for mental illness
When we look back what psychiatric care used to look like decades or even a century ago, we are rightfully astonished how stupid and often cruel the treatments were. I think we'll also look back at the overmedication of our current era as totally short-sighted. I'm glad you're doing great with the keto diet! When I watch your videos I feel like I'm watching a real trailblazer!
I admit, I owe you an apology.
I was jealous of your recovery and worried that you quitting meds was a dumb idea. But, after learning more about how psychiatry works here due to support groups that are led by former psychiatrists, and doing research in general, I'm starting to realize that the system really is fucked in general. Nobody knows exactly what they're doing: sometimes meds work, but sometimes you get the wrong med thrown at you because your psych is an idiot, or hurries the diagnosis.
After speaking to others, I'm starting to realize that no one has the one true answer. I used to think meds were the answer. Then I started thinking that metabolic therapy was the answer, and I was weak for not being willing to try it. Now, I'm starting to think the truth is in the middle, and that it depends on the person. It's a complicated issue for sure.
So, I apologize for being jealous and upset with you for getting to be off meds. I think it's good to have an open discourse about it *and* for both sides to not try to push meds/metabolic therapy on one another, or blame the other side of trying the opposite of what they're doing.
At the end of the day, all of us are trying to heal, and this infighting/division into hostile camps is just driving us more and more apart. And I admit that I've been guilty of this as well in the past.
Best of luck to us all
It takes courage to do what you did
thanks.
@@Julia_Berrrlin I wish , but tbh it's a lot easier to say it anonymously online where nobody knows you and you don't know them. I still definitely mean the apology and what I said up there...but it's a lot easier online than IRL, where there's a lot of mumbling and looking down with shame on my part.
But regardless of courage or not (which I personally doubt I have), I still feel it's important to admit when I'm wrong. Especially since I'm quite often wrong XD.
Happy Thursday to you. I'm off t have lunch and try to persuade myself to actually have a shower today. Stupid personal hygiene lol
100% agree, both approaches can be usefull, medication might work for some and not for others and metabolic therapies might benefit one person more than the next. Bodies are complicated and we simply don't know enough to have a magical solution that fits everyone the same
My psychiatrist told me that mental health treatment is very often just throwing shit at the wall until something sticks. Hopefully she found her something.
@@wht-pny Honestly, that would explain a lot.
I don't agree with the name change. You still have schizoeffective disorder. You are treating it with diet instead of medications. Which is great! I think that it is useful to have alternative treatments to medications. But even if you have controlled diabetes you are still a diabetic. I think that having controlled schizophrenia is the same. Diabetics have to change their diet if they want to be healthy. Same as you. You are are not "after" your illness. I would say that "Living Better With Schizophrenia" is much more accurate.
Or "Living My Best Life With Schizophrenia!"
Type 2 diabetes can absolutely be cured with dietary changes.
I would rather say I have diabetes or I have mental illness. It may be a condition we have, but not who we are.
@@SaraWinger-ct8hr I agree! But Diabetes is not who someone is either. And I am suggesting titles that say "living ... WITH schizophrenia" not "living AS a schizophrenic". So what I suggested is not saying that people are their illnesses. The second example would be that
Well it’s not your channel
So calm down
It’s just weird that it bothers you that much
Also, schizoaffective disorder can go into remission for years at a time, it's fairly common. Doesn't mean you've hacked the disorder, it just means it's dormant right now. I once went three years without any episodes (because I was on meds), and have been repeatedly ill since. You know all this stuff, it just seems like you're wilfully unlearning.
Hater
@@bipolarbeinganddoing8070 I hope this works. It is good to have options for mental health treatment besides medication. But I am still somewhat skeptical.
I really agree with "willfully unlearning" as someone who has followed this channel for years
I was psychotic for a day and then for about a week with paranoia in the background when I was in my twenties. I have never had psychosis since ( twenty years ago) and found out I had asd and am treating that. Getting to the root of what caused a break and never having one again is poss
@@Hossaly97😂
I think the challenge is the idea of one size fits all. Not everyone responds to medication, not everyone responds the same way to medications. And not everyone can be as specific in their diet or will necessarily benefit as dramatically from lifestyle change. But it is important to give people knowledge about the alternative ways to do things. And this fear that by even mentioning there is something that can be done outside of the strict medical model shouldn't discourage people like you who have seen real results and have done this with a great deal of continued guidance and professional help.
Exactly
Also keep in mind that most people are extremely bad at lifestyle changes especially when it comes to healthy changes. A pill is still the easier way for people to get rid of psychotic symptoms. But apparently not the only way
This is the medical model. It just has a different face.
It's still reducing mental illness to a biological problem and ignoring the human experience of it. It still ignores the mental aspect of mental illness.
It might reduce the presence and/or severity of symptoms for some time for some people, but it does nothing to teach a person how to live with or understand their experiences/differences.
It is reductive and short-sighted, in my opinion, if not willfully blind and arrogant, as well.
I am referring to the treatment approach/philosophy, for the record, not to any individual.
I am happy for anyone who finds it helpful. But it does share this issue with conventional psychiatry, and I feel like that needs to be said.
@Cthulhu.Fthagn good points. I should have said it isn't just a medication model. And in fairness, her approach over 9 months has looked to exercise, her relationship with others, she has talked about how she deals with stress and set backs. She has a therapist I think as well as a psychiatrist. Learning to live with a chronic condition really does require a whole person approach.
@@CK1000ism It definitely does.
I wish more time would be spent discussing the benefits of other interventions/lifestyle changes, too, and not attributing it all to medical keto.
These improvements are entirely possible without metabolic therapies. It's impossible to know how much improvement has been due to keto, as opposed to exercise, social support, therapy, focused effort and intention, etc.
4:33 ….. but u literally are saying you’re cured via your new name and bio.. being in remission and not experiencing symptoms isn’t being healed. I think the scary thing is you’re saying one thing but outwardly expressing another.
This is so amazing. Never stop this youtube channel please. No matter how much people have difficulties with change. Lots of people massivly go against change, even if it can be something good. I find it so special you are giving your perspective.
I love the way Lauren addressed the negative feedback with grace and diplomacy. Great job and thank you Lauren! I made the mistake of giving respectful feedback to an influencer regarding childbirth risks a while back and got the snottiest response, so I greatly appreciate Lauren's respectful and gentle approach. Thank you for your channel Lauren! You're inspiring me to slowly make changes to my own diet and lifestyle to hopefully improve my own mental health over time. 🙏❤
I tried to give some cautionary feedback here her last video and was really attacked. I think she's an amazing, resilient individual with a n amazing husband. They are extremely intelligent and also have financial resources. I tend to think she may have started this journey at a better vantage point to achieve success. Schizophrenia, like most illnesses is on a spectrum. It may be decades until adding metabolic help is recognized in health care. I certainly wish her continued success. I hope more and more govt research becomes committed to this area. This has been a stigmatized illness for centuries sadly. Lauren is such a reasoned, well spoken champion.
Glad to hear because uplifting treatment, encouraging them and letting them know that they can and will have a good happy life.
It's a nice feeling to suddenly realize that I'm having a "normal" day since I started the Keto diet. Things I thought would never happen while grappling with the schzioaffective disorder. Somethings as simple as going out with friends without symptoms. I can't complain about your videos, they've helped me tremendously.
I'm so touched by your comment, so happy for you. Normal days are so awesome, aren't they???
@@shaynaformity1384 They're the best!
@shaynaformity1384 yes! 😀
Thank you for being the voice of this shift and leading the cause for the collective at large! Such a positive contribution and a truly needed change-maker!
As someone who has followed this channel for many years, I'm happy to listen to any changes you go through. The more voices and varied experiences we have from people who live with mental illnesses, the better off we are. You've found a method of management that currently works for you, and sharing that is very helpful even when your experience of managing symptoms is not the same as it may be for anyone else. I think the big take-away is that no one's symptoms and ability to manage symptoms is the same! You touched on that very well in this video.
My son is schizophrenic and I'm so so proud of you for being yourself and please don't stop . ❤
Change your son diet please to keto combine with intermittent fasting for 20hours he will be in remision without medication
@@ingridavainauskaite4674 thats not sure.
@@ingridavainauskaite4674 I want to follow A Keto Genic diet too. Because I am a positive person from nature. And I read his book Brain Energy. But the fact still stands, that for some poeple the diet does not work. Its just like medication some work for some people with less symptons, and some work better on symptons
Take carbs and sugar away from your son
I would give anything if I could get my 31 year old son to do keto.
He has been delusional and in psychosis over 6 years😢
Lauren, this video is so so good. You shared your thoughts and intentions with grace, clarity, and candor. The change in the name of your channel is up to you, and I agree that polarization is very rampant in this cultural moment. The change in your health is momentous and the name change may be provocative, but it also provokes hope that schizophrenia patients have possibilities that MIGHT work for them. Your channel is contrarian to the literally BILLIONS of dollars that the big pharmaceutical companies use to incentivize the medical and insurance industries. You are sharing the hope that has WORKED FOR YOU, and it inspires me to hope that some of what you have done may help my son. THANK YOU. You inspire us, give us hope, and are a unique, educated, and winsome voice that is desperately needed in the very dark world of mental illness for those who have SMI's and for those who care for them.
A Keto based diet has been a life saver for me personally.
What matters is also what you actually eat within that diet.
You can eat over processed meats and garbage, or you can eat avocados, good beef, chicken, fish, etc.
Doing this has given me more mental clarity, energy and far less pain.
Thank you for speaking on this and sharing your experiences, you have helped me understand alot of my own neurological differences over the last few years.
Also I take supplements of magnesium, potassium, and calcium. Electrolytes and good hydration were the other side of the coin I kept missing.
I absolutely feel with you and I think you are so cautious not to hurt anyone and put anyone off. I think you are a deeply responsible person and do not present the ketogenic diet or metabolic strategies as the only one option even though it worked so well for you. I think we urgently needed a shift in psychiatry and your points are so valid!! Thank you for being so courageous and so differentiated, cautious and understanding. You are a real win and just wonderful thinking of all people with mental diseases with SO MUCH EMPATHY AND COMPASSION, which is very wonderful.
hey lauren you remited my scizophrenia keto forced me off my zyprexa over 5 monthes lowest dose was untolerable. im living my best life now look and feel better than ive ever felt. i have followed you for four years never commented, but i had to let you know what you have done for me. jacob krichten
This makes me so happy to see others healing ❤
I think it’s just important to be very cautious about potentially encouraging people to try to go off meds when people with this condition are already inclined to stop medication and get very very sick. And the alternative that would allow someone to go off meds is this very strict diet that requires a lot of effort and executive function. I think as long as you are careful and thoughtful about your messaging, that’s what is important.
Maybe you haven't been watching Lauren's videos. She has NEVER encouraged people to get off their medications. On the contrary, in every video she encourages people to stay on their meds until their doctor has OK'd that they reduce their medication.
@@reinerschafer1708 I know, I’m basically saying I think she does that and that’s what matters the most. I’m just saying that’s all she can do given the situation
So... WHY right on top of your channel is written "I used to live with schizophrenia". 😑
I really don't understand.
You admit the misunderstanding but then you don't fix it.
Because she's no longer living with the illness. It says there that she doesn't have any symptoms & is completely off medication.
She just has the diagnosys now, not the *experience* of the disease.
Thank you for being a trailblazer in metabolic therapies for mental health. I’m so grateful you are bringing more awareness to the possibilities available for relief. You are one of my heroes! I appreciate how articulate and well spoken you are about everything, too-it is a gift you have.
I am very happy for you and your ability for the metabolic changes and leaning to repair your mental health daily. At the start of this video, you address a name change for this (our) channel. My raw reaction was a kick in the gut and a little sadness. I felt this way because when I was diagnosed, scared, and seeking knowledge, you were here as a friendly face and a relief to know I wasn't alone and I was understood. I hope you do not rid the videos w explanations and guidance on this disorder. This site helped me to be able to have a conversation w family and friends that was packed full of support and answers that we all had. Many of those going through treatments of a multitude of mental challenges would not be able to do this treatments you have for various reasons mostly not have drs to be able w proper knowledge for treatment, lack of being able to do the amount of physical activity do to other heath concerns, diet is also tricky as you know but in just my case I can't eat red meats and low fat. It's frustrating even if I wanted to this it could be risky for other medical issues. From my point of view, I feel this makes me more broken that I don't qualify for this for change. I take so much medicine daily, and I hate it, but I'm kind of trapped. I just stress, please don't take off the very raw and educational videos, especially in the earliest of times. If i showed some of the newest videos to family and friends now 100% they would say see its easy to get over this just do what she does. (Not realistic) this would cause me more harm they good. Hope you understand my point of view? I do wish you a continued life of good health. Thank you
There are so many symptoms of schizophrenia that medication does not touch, it’s exciting to see other treatment options might
Exactly. For so many people, meds just make them manageable and offer no value to their lives. This diet offers weight loss and reduced symptoms, with the bonus of lower to no meds. Its been around for 100 years. I don't know why people are upset tbh.
I fully support you on this yourney. I have been following a keto diet now for 8 months and I can relate to all the things that you are saying. I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety about 20 years ago and every few years I build up resistance to the medication and had to adapt my medication. Luckily my path crossed with my new psychiatrist and we started metabolic therapy. I can honestly say that it works. I am now on a very light anti-depressant and mood stabiliser and we are working towards stopping the meds. Did not think that I would ever feel as good as I am feeling today. My whole life changed. For the first time in many years a feel alive and not just surviving. Thank you so much for your honesty and courage. I follow you with a hopeful heart.
Which mood stabilizer and which antidepressant are prescribed for you?
im really happy that you have found relief in something, escpecially after watching you for a while and seeing you struggling with it for so long. but a few months free of symptoms does not mean symptoms will never return. i don’t want to see yourself or others devastated after their hopes are crushed if symptoms return. please do not proclaim a cure-all to a large audience until until long-term meta-analyses prove it.
Have you watched the whole video? She states very clearly that her symptoms might return and she'd even consider going back on medication if it seems needed in the future.
@@shaynaformity1384right… which is why it’s premature and ethically questionable for her to say she is living “after” schizophrenia
Love you Lauren for taking this head on and creating dialogue plus clarifying your perspective.
Really appreciate this video and you creating a bridge to all this information. Love seeing more options and things to explore in regards to mental illness ❤
We are hearing everyday more and more how our foods are killing us- then let’s change our foods, become healthier and in some circumstances, healing.
I changed my lifestyle, stopped tobacco and drug use, and stepped out of comfort zone in all parameters, which involving staying outdoors and exposing myself to new situations and learning through experience, understanding that the demons waiting outside are not as scary as we imagine them in our heads. I did improve but not cured yet.
Your story changed my life- & undoubtedly, of many others. Keep up what you are doing!🙏🎉
You have already changed the lives of many people for the better. I applaud your desire to find ways to make this intervention more widely accessible. The hope, the HOPE!
Thinking back to my years suffering with anxiety and depression, I understand the knee-jerk reaction to tell those who suggest ''diet and exercise'' to just F off. For decades we have been told that and tried all of that with no results, it just felt like we were being blamed. This is different. And it needs to be explained clearly as different and supported by solid, well-designed scientific studies.
Thank you so much for taking us on your journey.
My biggest concern w keto diet is long term impact on physycal health ie gut heart kidneys
Those things all seem to improve on a ketogenic diet. Have you looked into it much? the ketogenic diet has more published research on it than any other way of eating. I too was skeptical and did lots of research before adopting it 5 1/2 years ago. I will most likely be on it the rest of my life now due to what it has done for my overall health. It's good to have healthy skepticism though.
There was a study done that followed epileptics on keto diet for 40 years. No increased risk of any illnesses.
I think something that should be reflected upon is that there are many conditions physical and mental that can go into remission but aren't "cured" so to speak. For instance, eating disorders are often thought to not be "cured" or people with cancer. Often, when they go into remission, they still have a proclivity for the cancer to come back. So they don't give up on preventative measures like a yearly CT. Similar to how it is probably recommended that you still see a psychiatrist or therapist while in remission to avoid symptoms to come back. I think you are so brave and graceful and vulnerable to be going through this change and sharing it with us.
Essentially we're ALL in remission from dying/fatally damaging ourselves. None of us are ever cured of this. Alternatively ANYONE without symptoms OR tumours IS cured - BUT we all still have our susceptibility to SOMETHING.
Yes, I’ve been in drug free remission from an autoimmune disease for almost 5 years and even my doctor is hesitant to say I’m cured because he’s seen it come back even after a decade. I go to the rheumatologist annually and if he needs testing, does it
You do you darling. I wish your fabulous self nothing but continued health and success. You are a pioneer with a big platform. Shine on.
I just want to say that I still love your channel. Thank you for being so candid about your experience with the diet change and how it has positively impacted your mental health. This is one reason I want to eat real foods. I want to end my psychotic episodes that I’m still having even with medication. My hope is that it also reduces my schizoaffective disorder symptoms, in addition to improving my health. I may just stick to a whole foods diet, as the keto diet is too overwhelming to think about right now, but I’m so psyched that it’s resulted in a remission of symptoms for you :). Thanks again, Lauren. and I look forward to watching your future videos 😊
The information you share is life saving. For all. Not just for people with mental health issues. I've been keto for the last 6 weeks now because of you. I am reversing insulin resistance.
My friend who is schizoaffective, sadly is not ready yet
Found your channel so I could help her.
But you're actually helping me lol
Thank you so much
wow you are an amazing friend! Maybe with time, without pressure, she will be ready to try.
It might be the work required to eat such a clean and new diet that's the problem. There are companies that deliver ready made keto meals, if that's the case. Thank you for being such a good friend to someone who really needs you.
@@unitysprings3631 yes we have ready made keto meals here. But its to expensive on a (what do you call it) I have dissability funds.
@@unitysprings3631 Many people who are mentally ill are on disability and cannot afford ready made keto diets. People will need support to do this diet. If it works I hope eventually insurance will help pay to support people to maintain this diet.
You said "thank you for showing up in this conversation" but truly thank YOU for inviting us to this discussion.
We care about this conversation because this conversation has taken care of us, is taking care of us, will take care of us...
Us or someone that we care about deeply. To be able to join it means a lot.
Thank you !
It's been a long educated up & down journey to and for a lot of us ..... Very insightfull to 👍
You are 1 courageous lady , who's helped thousands , I'm sure . And I'm very happy for you , that you've come this far !
Happy for you and your loved ones !
I'm looking forward to the future , you've become like an extension of my family 💜💞
God Bless 🙏
I'm on a very low dose of medication while on the keto diet. I track everything. This diet is also helping my eating disorder as well as my bipolar. Thanks for bringing us along on this journey.
think the name change is helpful even to people who might still be struggling with mental illness because they see that there may be a way beyond mental illnesses.
I think the fact that you shared through your progress does the same thing. People can see that there is hope.
I see this as a preferable treatment for mental illness. I don't think she is "after" or "beyond" her illness.
@@Catlily5I do not believe in the DSM and labeling people personally.
@@gracegrace1896 I think if you want to get treated properly it is good to have the right label. Before I got diagnosed with the "correct" label I went to the mental hospital 5 times in one year.
That said, they don't know enough about mental illness to do a very good job on the DSM.
But being mislabeled is horrible in my experience.
I'm really happy for you. I started watching you in 2018 after my husband got out of the hospital for bipolar. You have been a huge help for me. I knew in my heart that there was a better way. Seeing the way the hospitals handled everything..the whole experience. You were like my best friend through all of it. Keep going. Keep going. You have given me so much hope for him and our family.
It's not for any of us to say what you should and shouldn't do with your channel, it's *your* channel. But I've found your content very alienating recently, and the shift to talking almost exclusively about keto has been kind of bizarre. Personally I don't understand how someone can go from having repeated, severe episodes, to it all being fixed with diet. I would understand if you'd had one episode and they never returned, or that your episodes were induced by something other than schizophrenia, but it's not as if keto is some big secret that big Pharma are keeping from us and you are shedding light on ancient secrets, but that's what it feels like watching the channel now. As I said, your channel, do what you want with it, but I know a lot of us in the schizophrenia community (going off the r/schizophrenia subreddit at least) feel like this isn't really a place where we can come for identification, advice or validation any more. In that respect, it's good you've changed the name of your channel, because this is not a channel about mental illness or for mentally ill people any more, it's a channel for a diet that lots of people with schizophrenia can't afford. Good luck with it, anyhow.
I just like having the extra choices and knowledge about treatments for mental illnesses, because I can't take meds. I think though she is probably telling the truth about her symptoms in remission, and it would be weird to make videos about experiences she isn't having anymore. I know it's hard to believe someone could do something like keto and control symptoms with anything besides meds, but the science being studied on metabolic issues and how mental illness might be connected is fascinating to me, the human body is complicated and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if keto turns out to be a really great treatment in the future. The reason it seems too good to be true is because she is really early and it still needs more proof. I'm not ready to try keto for my issues, but it's nice to know there is an option. It's nice to see Lauren feeling better, kinda gives me hope after the mental health system hasn't improved my situation.
@@haleyb.1269Why can't you take meds? I have issues with antipsychotics and find myself in a very bad place when I try.
My psychologist labelled me with BPD and thinks that ist the reason for my struggles with pills, my psychiatrist diagnosed me with SAD and swears I should be better after eight weeks taking them regularly. But after two weeks I feel like my body is weakening, can't breathe and get sugar binges, depressions, irregular heart beat.🥵
There are studies showing that keto diet really helps with mental illness. Those studies are very recent. Having a keto professional is not realistic for everyone, but there are books and articles about keto diet out there and I think it is worth giving a try.
You call it bizarre, like it's some sort of weird obsession... You do realise she has/had a quite severe form of the illness, and with this diet it's *gone* now, right? I mean she doesn't experience any symptoms & isn't on medication anymore. She's no longer experiencing this illness to the degree that she even changed her channel name.
So... how can that be bizarre? It's literally been miraculous for her. More bizarre for me is people not even realising this happened, even though they follow they channel. Lol
Perfectly said!
Lauren, you are an inspiration. Thank you for sharing your story. From my encounters, many of those who are mentally ill love it. They love being able to call themselves special and have a label. I think that's where the criticism comes in. You are someone who seeks a better life because you're not selfish. When you are being the best version of you, you can be the best version of you for your loved ones. I'm all about improving who I am and shaking any labels or diagnoses I may receive. The people saying they hope you have a psychotic break are just evil. I truly wish you all the best with this journey and this is such an inspiring message of hope that you're sharing. I don't believe any of us are sick. I think we make ourselves sick with the things we consume but the human body is incredible and powerful. Our cells literally regenerate and make us new. I believe your illness is healed and you ARE living well AFTER Schizophrenia.
I did functional medicine and auto-immune Paleo diet. I have got rid of 90 percent my symptoms. And I was hospitalized 3 times, before I did this diet. I was very sick. Now I'm almost off my meds and only symptom is anxiety and mumbling voices. I'm going to go on carnivore/ keto to try to be totally symptom free. I'm very inspired by your channel. Thanks for spreading awareness about natural treatments. I've been cheating on my diet before listening to your channel and now I feel excited to really commit to my health and be totally symptom free. Thanks
I haven't had any delusions for a year, no more 24/7 loud hullicinations, and no more intrusive thoughts that used to be constant and scary!
All the best to you Lauren. There is no doubt that things can get better with better nutrition. I am on the lowest dose of medication and taking care of my diet to improve my quality of life. I am feeling a lot better too. Thanks for the support that you are giving to the community at large especially to the mentally challenged community. Thanks so much. Your words mean a lot❤❤
I'm a human with autism who has found relief from symptoms with methylated folate and a protein forward diet. I still take a low dose of medication which I see as part and parcel of controlling my anxiety and depression that comes from my condition. I guess my issue is with the one size fits all nature, since many of us struggle with eating in the first place, and disordered eating usually.
I don’t mind what you name your channel. It’s your channel, your life, your experience and 100% your choice. I really enjoy your content. I work in mental health as an advocate to support people experiencing mental illness in having their voice heard, their preferences for treatment respected so they can have autonomy over their lives. No judgment from me. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge. ❤
From seeing my mom go through this for about 25 years, it never goes away. The outward Symptoms are stronger and more apparent to us some times more than others
I'm happy i had viewed your channel dealing with my own mental challenges. Some years ago my sister was diagnosed with schizophrenia and with many of your videos in fresh memory, it have helped me to try to make our relationship better. Thanks
You are too kind Lauren, no matter how unwell you are it is never okay to wish a psychotic or manic episode on anyone. You are incredible 💗
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the approach you have taken to responding to criticism. Although I do understand some of the concerns that people may have, ultimately you have to do what is best for you., and by all means, if you have found a way to put the symptoms of your serious mental illness into remission, please share it with the world!! It gives me so much hope that there COULD be something out there that could help me or others that are struggling. What you call your channel does not change that. If people take the name of your channel and interpret from that that they’re going to be cured, then it means that they didn’t actually watch any of your videos. If people are actually invested in wanting to get better and finding hope, then they have to put the time in, which means fully watching the videos or doing their own research. That is on them, not you. We need more people in this world like you, who try to start a conversation rather than an argument. Thank you for sharing your journey and providing information in a professional way, and with the added reality that you were living it! Your channel has and still does provide so much hope for me. Please keep it up.
If you see this, will you be doing any updates on antipsychotic withdrawal? I’m currently in the middle of it myself.
Thank you so much for your openness ❤ and your loving heart, as well as the energy that flows into all your videos.
You are an inspiration Lauren. Please do not stop sharing or be discouraged by negative things others say. Your real unfiltered sharing is so refreshing and you are making a HUGE impact in so many lives. Ketogenic Treatment is real and effective for many so we all need to share our stories.
Keto is so worth it when your symptoms go into remission. Yea the American diet is “fun” but when it affects your mood and triggers my symptoms is not fun anymore. Keto lifestyle for me has been very lonely specially because the fact that my diagnosis is my big secret- I haven’t shared with my family and friends yet so they just think I’m in a strict diet to lose weight so they often tell me to “live a little” and eat the junk. Keto has helped me like nothing else has!
congratulations :) Many keto people online, you could always connect there
what were you suffering from
Ya kno, I did keto about a year before your journey and my own experiences did make me think about your channel. Then we saw you start the journey and I couldn't have been more overjoyed for you. Congratulations are definitely in order
I believe that you are experiencing a total remission of the symptoms (as. Medical language).
I really true believe in medical keto because I started as I said in another comment to eating carbs here and there so I experienced the symptoms get worse. In a popular linguage I am pretty sure that you are cured from at least the symptoms. I hope you keep going and can overcome this kind of negative comments. The world needs to know about your remission. I wish to you all the best.
You’re doing a great thing Lauren. Keep it up. I think that maybe you have had such a great and fairly rapid response, is because at least by already exercising and being thin and relatively metabolically healthy…pre Keto…those might be factors for the robust response. Something to keep in mind.
I have had a tremendous response with a strict medical keto diet for severe resistant depression and social anxiety. For 5 months was basically in remission, slumped back to mild depression doing the same things but am working on getting back to feeling 100%. The other benefits, best physical health in my life, have lost 115lbs in 15 months, have a lot of energy, exercise daily, gut issues gone, sleep way better and feel rested, I can go on and on. So I’m a lifer for Keto…just gotta make some tweaks.
I’m not sure why some people are so skeptical. I think it is more likely the chronic sufferers and much older people than yourself would be my guess. It is hard having dealt with a chronic illness for many many years without help from any medication combos and from your best efforts. It is demoralizing. Me included. 27 years of unrelenting, debilitating depression. Many years lost. No family of my own, no girlfriend for many years, not able to work in my career of music consistently, and most years unable to work. Pretty depressing quality of life over these 27 years of depression. So there are a lot of us out there. I think you should keep in mind that many people with something that looks similar and didn’t have the trajectory that you have had may feel bitter about their situation and may be projecting on you, so that is something to keep in mind. I am not one of those people…I am all for this modality. But as bad as your story is and what you have gone through, there are a lot more worse stories with very chronic and debilitating lives…so something to keep in mind.
For future content. I would love to see videos and videos with experts regarding hurdles and barriers of keto for mental illness. How to optimize, how to keep it working, etc. Things like electrolyte imbalances, salt intake, exercise to optimize keto like HIIT, adjunctive natural therapies like cold therapy. And of course my main interest is troubleshooting why keto works less now for me and others than in the beginning. That is for mental illness. Because the physical benefits just keep coming. Thanks:)
I just did therapy tonight on all of this and went into depth on how to put mental health issues like ADHD and depression into remission given once it’s a chemical imbalance it isn’t something like a computer where you can say “ control alt delete “ and be good. But I like the word remission better because you are just simply managing the underlined issue rather then the symptoms and if there are genetically components or if there is pre dispositions issues you can’t stop it for ever but you can put it into remission by being repetitive in healthy basic habits like Lauren is talking about. And sometimes like she said medication is needed and I still need it to a small degree but in other things you can learn.
So nice to see you doing better, one of your previous videos mentioned that medication was not working also side-effects were unbareable. Knowing you have real joy, clarity, and hope for a brighter future ✨️.
It is interesting to think about how something as impactful as this might be made accessible to people with additional barriers, like agoraphobia, ARFID, MCAS, other medical conditions that affect what foods you can eat safely, etc. There are SO many facets to why ketogenic medical interventions are inaccessible, but I wonder what kind of research this will inspire in the future.
Until pharmaceutic companies figure out how to put the ketogenic diet into a capsule, it will not be widely recommended in the medical field and obviously they are not going to fund research on it. It will be up to private funders, who are not profit motivated, like the Baszucki Group NGO to fund studies,... as they are currently doing
sadly ofc it is very inaccessible to many people with dietary restrictions. however i find MANYY mcas sufferers (especially extreme cases) tend to naturally have a lower carb diet as the foods theyr able to eat dont seem to ever contain the significantly carby stuff lol. seems like bread and grains are a bit to new to our diets to be accepted by our bodies once stuff like MCAS comes around loll
@@reinerschafer1708this definitely already exists (for different purposes than current convo but v adjustsble.) Not as a capsule but as something that can be jus pumped into ur guts. however that wuld be a really hard sell… u’d need a rly extreme case of med resistant schizophrenia to convince even a keto receptive doctor to switch you to a liquid feeding tube diet lol
@@alexanderh8129 my partner has MCAS. They are almost exclusively able to eat simple carbs, chicken, and cheese.
@@stephenie44 I am sure that you know this but I am stating it for other people who might not know it: Chicken and cheese are keto but definitely not simple carbs!
Your content is just amazing Lauren, I’m sure you’re opening doors never opened before. It’s difficult to be a pioneer don’t give up and I hope you can definitely come up here and state that you’re cured. People can be cured from many diseases why would it be different in this case! Keep up the great work and don’t let people negative reactions get in the way! ❤
My psychiatrist told me that it takes six months for the effects of stopping or dose changing to come about.
Hope is a powerful motivator. The name change gives people hope that this terrible illness isn’t a life long sentence… you give people hope that you can actually move into remission. The word remission doesn’t mean cured - it means you are symptom free for now but no one knows what the future holds. Keep up the positive messages, you have inspired many viewers.
False hope is a cruel thing. The fact is that it's a life long thing. That's just how it is.
Good on you. When I was first diagnosed I was totally against medication and I still believe that with the right talking therapy I would have been able to manage my symptoms (maybe). However, the dr t that diagnosed me said that without medication my symptoms would not go away that was 23 years ago. I had my first involuntary admission to a psychiatric hospital in 2020 and now I’m scared of even bringing up the subject of tapering off medication. All the best and well done for all your hard work
I love how you are so inclusive and respectful while being true to yourself. There is no one size fits all with mental health and you are a perfect example of that. I'm so grateful to you!
My hat's off to you Lauren!! You don't know how much respect I have for you, your kindness, compassion and resilience. That goes for Rob too! Some of these ignorant comments blow me away. But you can't let the naysayer's dictate your life or let it get under your skin. Which is why I respect how you've ALWAYS been. A gentle soul. From the creation of this channel to now you've always been one of the most thoughtful people I've ever come across. You deserve an award for how honest and thoughtful you are! :) I'm schizophrenic. I've been on medicine for over 2 decades. I started the diet and it didn't work out for me the first time around. Just like you! I gave it a second shot and have been adhering to the keto diet in addition to metabolic therapies now for 7 months. And I've never felt better! My medications have been reduced drastically and I have hope for the future again. 'Nough said. Keep smiling! You, Dr. Palmer, the Baszucki Group, Metabolic Minds as well as many others are more than on the right track. Congrats for all you've accomplished and will accomplish!
Can you specify what other metabolic therapies you are doing, other than keto? Thanks.
@@kata6966 Yes, of course. First, I'd like to mention I'm not doing this alone. I am working with my doctors and we carefully monitor not only my mental health but physical health as well. I do not advise anyone do this on their own nor am I giving medical advice. And my doctor's certainly do not advise doing this on your own. I must note that dietary interventions are different for everyone. Each persons health is different and so are their goals. You need to work with your doctor's. Now, with that being said, I'd also like to say the medical ketogenic diet intervention has profound effects on brain function. If, your doubtful of that, take a look into the last 100 years of research done on how effective the ketogenic diet has been on epilepsy. To say it's been a miracle on how effective it is is nothing to sneeze at. There is research being done regarding the medical ketogenic diet at many prominent universities. Harvard, Stanford Medicine, John Hopkins School of Medicine, the University of Oxford, James Cook University etc.. I'm not a doctor but if you want to hear from those who are there is a plethora of information online that explains better than I can the importance of mitochondria, how it works, hows it's related to metabolic health and how the keto diet addresses these issues. Feel free to start by looking up Dr. Christopher Palmer. A Harvard Psychiatrist. I also must mention I am not anti-psychiatry. Medications have helped me. But, they've also been the root cause of many health issues I've had to deal with for over 2 decades. And in my humble opinion, if patients were given an option to help control symptoms without the side effects of huge doses of psychiatric medicine that ruin lives, I'd opt for a healthy resolution. I wish I knew 20 years ago what I know now. There's no way you could keep me away from metabolic therapies. Of course, the main component of it being making a dietary intervention towards the medical ketogenic diet. Now to directly answer your question. It's simple. Yes, I use the medical ketogenic diet for my mental and physical health. And I strictly adhere to it. It's a change. And like I said in my post above, I failed the first time around. But that doesn't mean there still isn't hope. I tried again and have been on it for 7 months now. It's been life changing. I feel unbelievably better and my medications have been reduced. As I see it, it can only get better from here. Also I'm still on medications. And that's ok. I'm not bothered by that. Maybe one day I'll be off of them completely. Maybe I'll just be at a much lower dose. Only time will tell. Other things I do to improve my metabolic health is exercise regularly. I try to stay on a regular sleep pattern. I take supplements. I've made changes in my life to reduce stress. I have a therapist I speak with regularly. I avoid drugs and alcohol. I'm working part time again. And now that I'm feeling more alive, I'm doing things that give my life meaning and purpose. I do things that make me feel good. And I couldn't have done it without the medical ketogenic diet, the help of my doctors, as well as the help of the online community including Lauren's dedicated work, Dr. Christopher Palmer, The Baszucki Group, and Metabolic Minds to name a few. So, to end, I'd just like to say I'm very moved and gracious by those involved in this field of psychiatry and all I want to say is Thank you! Thank you for bringing me life again!
@@redman131000 Thank you for your reply. I will share your comment with my son. Our dilemma is we can't find doctors who are familiar with the ketogenic diet and/or who can help my son properly taper off of his medication.
@@kata6966 You're more than welcome. I hope your son can find the help he needs. I forgot to mention two other things I do that help me. The first being meditation. I try to meditate everyday. And I also do intermittent fasting from time to time. Intermittent fasting can be a powerful tool in metabolic therapy.
@@redman131000 appreciate the additional information/advice.
I am so happy for you, so excited for you and hope people will reflect instead of lash out on someone over the internet. People can be so jealous, hateful and negative. Your doing the right thing trying to do whats best for YOU!
I hope you can link up with the right people in the medical industry so they can study this!!!! I know so many studies have been done with medical keto but every single case is a little different. And it's absolutely fascinating to me how carbs and sugar can effect the brain. It's so so interesting
Our brains are energy hogs. It makes sense that the type/amount of energy we supply it with might have an affect.
She's already linked up with the Bazucki Group (the founders' son went into remission from bipolar disorder with metabolic therapy) and they are currently running several studies on metabolic therapies for mental disorders.
I can relate. In the last year I have been taking a methylated b complex, magnesium, reduced histamine foods & oxalates, no sugar or bad processed food. I also took a nervous system reset class.
I am experiencing things in a different way for the first time. I’m on a 5 hour car trip by myself to a place I’ve never gone and I had to pack all my own food. No anxiety, no brain fog. It’s amazing. There are nutrient based treatments out there- and they work so much better than I imagined. Best to you. I feel like I am in remission! 😊
When you changed your channel name to "after schizophrenia " does imply that you have no more schizophrenia. Therefore cured
Laren, i just watched a video you did one year ago and you were talking about your paranoia, etc, and this qas while on medications. I'm so glad to hear you no longer have those issues while NOT on medications.
We deal with something similar within the autism community, but much worse. There are large portions of the online ASD community that reframe the condition as a personality trait and are actively trying to cancel research into treatments. And when questioned, they know NOTHING about the biological basis of the condition. It's extremely concerning. I wish you all the best with your journey and thank you for giving us some hope.
Change diet for ketogenic therapy
Autism and schizophrenia are both right hemisphere deficit disorders.
That’s why I desperately dodge most autism communities online. They helped me as a kid learning to grow up with autism but now because of stuff like this I hesitate to even engage with it. There’s too many people acting as if having a condition makes them an expert on it in its entirety and stuff that’s not even remotely grounded in research gets passed around as a gospel.
That is *really* messed up, tbh...
@@chelmastly5802 You can find autism content that doesn't see autism as a personality trait if you look for it.
Want to send some love your way. I loved your channel before and love it even more now. I’m so happy to see you manage your illness in a way that lets you show up fully in your life. It gives me hope for my loved ones with similar illnesses.
I think the effectiveness of the keto diet may come down to what other metabolic health related obstacles you are facing.
I have bipolar disorder and am also trying keto, also for the second time. It’s working for me but not as well as for Lauren, and I think it’s because I’ve suffered some trauma.
I’m hoping the keto diet will help me deal with the trauma as I reduce the medication, though I’ve made sure I have support around me when doing this.
Some people have a problem with understanding and respecting we are all individuals and what can work for 1 person might not be effective for others
You’ve found what works for you and i personally am so pleased and proud of you
I hope you stay relapse free for the rest of your life, and that you experience enough healing to enjoy carbs again one day☺️
I'm two weeks into my own metabolic therapy journey to treat my schizophrenia. Wish me luck☺️
I wish you and all the other sufferers from all over the Globe all the best.
I hope you're okay❤
Another very well spoken video. I love that you were born and that you have done this!! It will help sooooo many people!
If you continue to listen to critical feedback and continue to be honest without yourself, I think you'll end up helping a lot of people. Exploring alternative approaches to managing symptoms, especially when the traditional path has not given you the outcome you really need is sometimes how really important breakthroughs in understanding a condition happen.
You’re doing really important work by finding words to navigate this conversation. Even outside of mental health keto triggers a lot of intense feelings and polarization. It’s exciting to see the advocacy you are doing through your channel!
I wish you the very best going forward ......
Eileen Dublin Ireland
Your channel, message and decision. I fully support the evolution and look forward your content.
I 100% respect any changes you feel like you need to make to the channel or your life to reflect your new inner self. I just feel like, realistically, you will always have this disorder. Progress isn't a straight line, it's a spiral. You have times of revelation and success and reprieve, and there are times of regression. That's everything in life, not just mental illness. Your diet and treatment has to be SO carefully monitored and maintained. I'm sure it's exhausting for you, but not nearly as exhausting as schizoaffective disorder. But, inevitably, you will have slip ups and down turns. I think it's up to you ultimately, obviously, but I feel like changing the entire nature of your content to conquering the disorder will make sharing those negative experiences all the more difficult for you. Maybe causing you feelings of unnecessary shame or defeat. What I'm saying is not trying to discourage you at all, just being realistic. I think this keto metabolic therapy is genuinely incredible, and I'm stoked to learn more about it through your content. But I think running away with all these feelings of success and enlightenment is skewing your view of what might happen in the future. We're here for your journey, not just your success, but how you've navigated the hard times.
I also feel like the tone your content has skewed negatively towards modern traditional medicine. While I think that the system is completely messed up and a trash fire, it also does help people and get it right sometimes. It's amazing to encourage people to seek alternative treatments, and do research, and to advocate for themselves when nothing is working, without also fostering distrust in people's minds for what could help them and is more accessible. You are very priviledged to have access to these doctors and this treatment. So many people with this disorder are not so lucky. Trying everything is valuable. And I will have to stop watching if that's the attitude going forward. It's amazing that this worked *for you*, it's not guaranteed to work for everyone, and I feel like your content has gotten more and more.. Pushy.. In that respect. That's the only word I can think of right now.
Those are my thoughts. I'm sorry if they were unwelcome, but I'm so happy this is working for you and you feel better! ❤
To be 100% transparent, I'm AuDHD, and also struggle with anxiety. I was recently diagnosed with this. Before I was dx'd with bipolar disorder since I was a teenager, and the medication caused me permanent kidney damage. So I *personally* empathize with the discouragement and mishaps the medical system can cause. But there's a balance. I don't inherently distrust doctors, I just have to be much more careful with how I handle my treatment. I'm FINALLY properly medicated, for literally the first time in my life. But I'm not "cured" and I will never be cured, and I don't go around telling all of my neurodivergent friends that my particular cocktail is the answer. That's what I'm getting at.
I honestly don't think her attitude is hostile, or anti-establishment, or in anyway (prob) extreme as you perceive it... Tbh, the words *you used* to describe the medical system is 100x worse than anything she ever said...
@@dyawr I said the tone has been pushy. And I'm not saying she said that my guy. I'm not perceiving anything extremely. She hasn't directly *said* much about the medical system. I just think her personal frustration with it, mixed with the new world she discovered of a more holistic diet based approach to treating her illness, has made the tone of her content lean in that direction. The truth of the matter is, not everyone has access to or can afford what she's doing, and it won't work for everyone the same way. It's great for her, but if the tone of her content changes to this is *the way* to "cure" her disorder, I feel like it's a dangerous and disheartening path for not only herself but for people who are desperate for answers and can't do what she's doing. She also, fundamentally, is not cured, it's in regression, and there will be bumps in the road. That's all I'm saying.
We're so happy for you Lauren.
I think while discussion on the use of metabolic therapy is important in patient groups, it's really up to the person themselves on what works best for managing their mental health and life. I don't think other people have the right to impose one way or the other. But for myself, I do notice a marked improvement in reducing depressive symptoms, dissociative symptoms, and perhaps reduce the risk of mania when I am paying attention to my diet and reducing fats, added sugars, and acids.
Conversely, whenever I am eating well but return to habitual eating where I consume whatever I crave -- I often end up feeling depressed and potentially end up in a dissociative episode. What I mean is, metabolic therapy with licensed professionals is something we - as a plural system - want to try so it's easier to engage in the world... Nobody can take that instinct for us to try away from us, and we won't impose what other people need to do for themselves.
Trust your mind, your heart, and your instincts -- even if it doesn't agree with the people around you. You're either right, or you're facing a consequence that you're most capable of handling than otherwise. But hey-- that's just advice that works for ~us.~ And that's the whole point. ;)
I live with chronic mental illness and ever since I started the ketogenic I am able to manage my illness.
Your story through the year is very heartening and positive. Very best wishes in your life after schizophrenia.
If it really was "after", you wouldn't need to constantly do the diet. It's more how you have chosen to manage this, I think.
The thing is, these disorders can be episodic anyway. I went off meds for bipolar 1 for a year. Felt great at first. Ended up in crisis. Back on meds. Then wonder if it's too risky to stop meds (yes, I have been wondering it as I am tired of gaining over 25kg, which came off when off the meds).
Time will tell.
If someone doesnt eat peanuts with peanut allergy, that's considered smart - she found lifestyle changes to not experience her symptoms, very smart
I like the message the new name gives - if I hadn't ever watched the channel and came across it, I'd think, "oh, that's interesting, I didn't know there was a cure for schizophrenia", and I'd watch and learn something new.
The work Lauren's done is amazing (I've tried keto and found it ridiculously hard) and I think the honesty she's approached it with it inspiring. Negativity in the comments can't diminish that 😊
You inspired me to go low carb and I finally lost weight. I had to lose weight because of my family history of physical aliments. And being black put me at risk for many things. I think you should definitely keep doing this because it really has helped me. My doctor asked me whatever I was doing, to keep doing it. I think you are a lifesaver.
That's cool! 🙂
Yes, when I told my doctor I was doing a ketogenic diet, she was quite concerned I would do more harm than good. The following year, after all my health markers had improved, as well as losing 50 lbs., she told me to keep doing what I was doing because its obviously working.
@@reinerschafer1708 yes there is definitely something to this that works.
I have to say you were absolutely brilliant and so articulate it’s a pleasure to listen to you. I am so proud of you and what you’re doing, and I really hope that you can quantify or define it where it’s something we could look at and try and follow as well. It’s difficult when we’re just listening to a video and we don’t know where to begin in our part of the world. But if you were able to, quantify it or define it and put it in writing that is something, as a person, would love to have in dealing with my daughter that has this. Thank you.
I'm on food stamps and SSI, I live alone and I have diagnoses of schizoaffective disorder, autism, and ADHD, and I've eaten clean keto for over 5 years now. Yes, grassfed meat, organic chicken, only organic vegetables, etc. I live in a state that has the HIP program so that's an extra $40/month for fresh veggies/fruit. Because it took me forever to figure out all my food sensitivities, it was a gradual transition and I just kind of landed close to keto, and then made the jump when I saw how a friend ate over the course of a weekend. I thought, I could do that, it's worth a shot, I'll see how I feel. People really have no idea how expensive processed foods are, beverages, juice, candy bars, getting a coffee every day (even the least expensive one LOL), picking up a snack at a convenience store, canned soup. But feeling good is the BEST feeling. When I find out what makes me not feel sick, it doesn't seem like a sacrifice. I like feeling good, so I do what it takes, and the more I do what works for my body, the easier it becomes to keep up with it. I also stopped gaining weight, and eventually I was able to start exercising again after that. I also want to say that it doesn't have to be an immediate change - when I started I had so much cognitive impairment it was often hard to get myself to prepare *any* food (I trained some friends that when I called and needed help, all I needed was them to stay on the phone with me when I braved opening up the fridge, and somehow the social engagement system in my brain helped me decide what to eat) and sometimes I still end up eating leftover mashed potatoes with cheese for dinner if I've used up all my spoons for the day, and it's not the end of the world. I get back to keto the next day. I know it doesn't work for everyone, but I felt "off" whenever I went below 50 net carbs/day, so I do get to eat a little bit of potatoes. I hope sharing my story will encourage someone to give it a try and not give up if it's hard at first. It's amazing when you look back at just how many small changes add up over the course of a year or two. So much has become automatic that I don't even have to think about any more. It does get easier to maintain.
Your story is absolutely inspirational! I hope Lauren asks you onto her channel to talk about it.
I'm just starting to learn to 'train friends' in how to help me when cognitive stuff is bad. You're right how connection and being there helps.
And I like your approach of small steps. Lauren did many of those in her fitness and relationships, before she attempted keto.
And we do need folk demonstrating how to eat cleanly on a budget.
At this rate you'll be so fit, you moved to a smallholding in the country and supply other folk with organic food! Maybe doing other folks' gardens, on condition you get half the produce and are allowed to do it organically, would be a halfway step?