Preparing to Repair 1000+ lb. Borax Wheels | Engels Coach Shop
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- The logistics of handling 1000+ pound wagon wheels, and creating enough space in the shop to accommodate them. Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often involves solving logistical problems that allows for safety during the process. I'm going to custom make some straps, and install some overhead hoists, to handle these wheels.
This is the overhead hoist I referred to that I chose to use:
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Dang! Another cliff hanger. Tune in next week for another exciting episode. 😏
Good job drawing out the worrywarts and safety police.
To be able to switch from a blacksmith's anvil to a sewing machine is awesome.
After spending over 2 decades in the machining/fabrication/blacksmithing trades, I'm always astounded at how simple and efficient your fixtures and methods are! Keep up the quality craftsmanship!
I mean to be fair people used to do this before electricity was even a thing and had hundreds of years of trial and error learning he can lean on.
Craftsmanship and attention to detail on them is what makes him top notch. It looks as much art as science and it's something beyond my capabilities.
I agree with Pat Booth and Cripple Creek Sawmill. Also Dave has said a few times that the wagons, carriages, wheels etc are his teachers. The pioneers have modified the making of those items many times until they perfected the building of them. As far as the method of building and repairing them " If It Ain't Broke Don't Fix It" IT worked for the pioneers so Dave has learned that it will work for him. Keep up the great work Dave.
You should make a video of no video, just audio. “Shop Sounds to fall asleep with”. Or “What’s This sound?” Love the ultra quiet background music adding to the quiet that is Joliet, MT.
Brilliant adaptation. Great to see that Can Do attitude in action! And making those straps was just lovely!
Looked kinda of scary there for a minute when the frame started jumping around. I figure you knew what you were doing and had it all under control
I don't want to tell Dave his business - but it sure does look sketchy.
@@ThomasBenjaminBenHuggett yah that was kind painful to watch.
@@ThomasBenjaminBenHuggett the sped up footage probably exaggerates the movement of the frame more than it really is moving.
Great video! As a machinist I understand and respect your craftsmanship. My Grandpa would use a team of mules to plant potatoes, cultivate potatoes and sweetcorn and also pull a wagon in parades , so I understand the historical content of your videos. Keep up the good work!!!
I was literally laughing out loud when Dave was standing there with a controller in each hand. IT'S ALIVE!!! Good job, Dave. This episode is very relatable. My garage doubles as my shop. All my tools are on casters so before I tackle a project I have to move my trailer out of the garage and setup and level my benches and tools.
He reminded me of a modern wild west sheriff with a yellow taser in each hand. Either that or a Star Wars character with a lightsaber in each hand.
I thought of it being similar to an arcade game. Kinda like controlling a crane game.
Nothing better, in Switzerland on a work contract, Saturday AM eating breakfast and watching Dave. Going out today to see the country side. Made my lift out of I beams bought at a farm/industrial auction. No matter what we do, safety is always paramount. Dave it’s been quite a few years on this journey with you, keep up the good work. All the best to you. Back to the US and home to SD this coming Monday.
It's amazing how strong stitching really is. Years ago, I was designing exercise hardware for the International Space Station. I had designed a D-ring sling with a stainless steel D-ring attached to Kevlar webbing with Kevlar stitching. A sample had to be pull tested. The D-ring DEFORMED before the stitching pulled out! Amazing!
I am a skydiver. You don't have to tell me about the strength of a well stitched connection. Not when your life depends on it.
@@glencrandall7051 Yes sir! Totally agree!
I've used turn of the century belt driven sail maker's sergers. The efficiency and beauty which stems from it is unparalleled and the strength and quality of the end result is easily comparable to modern electric counterparts.
They were used to reinforce cargo strapping D-Rings used to hoist Elephants into the cargo holds of large sailing ships on their way from India to English zoos. If the stitching style and technique can hold a scared elephant in 1870, it should hold a ginormous wagon wheel in 2022.
@@glencrandall7051 It's because each stitch will hold 5-10 pounds, multiplied by hundreds and also wrapped 90 Deg. I needed a sling to lift a 600 pound mower so I could easily remove the blades. My wife sewed me up a 2000 sling with a standard sewing machine and thread. I think the sling would break before the stitching.
it really is and when my towing business was larger we spent a fortune on straps.....until my wife who's from Bulgaria said why don't you just let me make them😂 I must have saved 10k that year because drivers would cut straps weekly. I found a place in Oregon called strapworks around 05-06 and called(imagine that😅) and the guy Doug was like we're mainly recreational gear. So I figured it's a dead end until he called me back and said he's able to do it for a min order of about half what I needed. He also got us the right threads etc and it almost saved me enough to make doing AAA calls profitable😂
edit.... I just looked them up and they have 2-3 pissy reviews during covid. But I personally never had a problem in 15 years. But they're a small business and not Amazon. So keep that in mind.
I am very happy to have found your channel because at the moment I am disabled due to a work accident that requires surgery (two spinal discs destroyed) to get me back to my normal life or at least part of it. Until I saw your videos I didn't know how the construction and restoration process was done and I love every step of how it's done, I feel angry, depressed and anxious because I was very active and now I'm in nothing, your videos have an effect relaxing and antidepressant and I spend most of the day watching your videos. Thank you very much and sorry for the long comment
We are glad you're enjoying them.
Played this intro for my 80 something year old neighbor where he was mentioning the wheel weights. Her eyes got HUGE! She couldn't believe the weights.
That's where I found you're channel. You were setting the tires out back . Been following since.
What is there that you cannot achieve ? You are a true talent! I might see you in the next month on a road trip! Hope to see you!
Just amazing watching you make the straps & D rings. Thank you and the Mrs. for allowing us to watch your perform your "magic"! God Bless and stay well.
That is a craftsman proficient in the use of a come along!!!
I’m amazed that their are still some wheelwrights around that know how to work on these massive wagon wheels. I didn’t think that those wheels still existed except for a few in a pioneer museum!
I am worried about the amount of flex shown at 12:30 in the leg holding the hoist. This is the _smaller_ wheel. Be careful Dave, that the hoist frame does not fail catastrophically when you lift the heavier back wheels.
I am very impressed with the forethought you put into each step and your skills to achieve your goals.
I should have known not to get too concerned - watching that pipe framework dancing around a bit, as you used those hoists to maneuver that wheel. But for a bit there, I wondered if the frame would be safer fastened to the floor! But Master Dave showed me that he wasn't all that concerned, so I let out a sigh of relief, and enjoyed the video! What a well thought out process - just to be able to handle those enormous wheels! I look forward to watching the rest of your videos, as you adjust those massive tires and wheels!
If I lived anywhere close to his shop he'd be tired of seeing me because I would be there every chance I could
AH, YES, Mr. Dave! Shop space management is essential in Every Shop... Flat surfaces get stuff piled on, corners fill up, etc etc. I enjoyed the show, even with a bit of "strap making envy".. Thank You once again!!
Amazing rolling the "little" ordinary wheel among the borax wheels!
I started laughing as you rolled that buggy wheel past those BEAST Borax wheels! It looked like a little toy! I recall you had a bonfire to heat those tires and a lot of help to lift and set them on the wheels. looks like you're gonna be callin' out that posse to help you again.
*- Dave, why did my construction instinct kick in and want the hoist gusseted?*
*- Long removable triangle angle-iron bracing would be nice.*
*- Cut-in-half round pipe cuffs w/ bolt through flanges would be easy to build.*
*- Light wood carriage framing does not need a lifting frame with heavy gusseting.*
6:34 I watched Barnwood Builders, and one segment featured a Farrier in PA. He had a mobile shop trailer, and used a front loading kiln (like yours) for the horseshoes.
Someone should donate a Chain Hoist to you! Safety Third!
For a moment, I wondered why you were using a come-along to lift the wagon parts. A chain hoist would be so much faster.
But then I realized that I've never seen you use something newer or more expensive when you have something that will do the job in an adequate time. Mig welder instead of forge welding makes sense - faster & better welds at lower cost says that the Mig is an investment you'll make. A chain hoist would not really be much faster, and you have the come-along.
Please, continue as you have. I love to watch the work you do. You inspire me.
And that gentlemen was a demonstration on hoists expertly used! 👍👍
Dave, very enjoyable watching as you work out solutions for these challenges. You continue to prove nothing is impossible if you are smarter than the obstacle. Thanks for posting!
A really good belly laugh clears the cobwebs for me and I gotta say, watching you work those tandem winch controllers
had me hackin' and squirtin' tears and cobwebs. Thanx !!
Thank you for another great video! I like the way you use your head to work around obstickles and get it done while being alone in the shop! Great work... keep the videos coming....
I have to say. Rather amazing seeing you making those custom straps for lifting those Borax wheels.
Imagine having to do that in, say 1881, using only hand operated and counterweight chain hoists and block & tackle. The kind of work that puts white in your whiskers.
Even with power hoists 1000 pounds is a lot to be dealing with on your own! Respect!
I love that wooden cart where you stacked the undercarriage parts. Its so handy!!
I'm going to start making plans to head out to Bishop to see the parade.
That was way too cool with the dual gantry thing going on, that tire did a slide-out. Thank you Dave.
Those hoists look like a great addition to a one man shop. I hope the shoulder has recovered Dave.
Treat the BIG boys with respect
thanks for sharing blessings to you and your family 🙏 stay safe
Dave, you be careful now, watching the legs of your hoist frame work has me worried for you. Especially with you working alone. Would love to see something more solid for you to use with all that weight above you. Take great Care, your health is more important than those wheels and your absence would surely be felt by myself and others should you hurt yourself. There is NO doubt in my mind that you are capable of doing the work but not at the expense of your health sir. Prayers and best wishes on finding a safe and successful solution to the repair but your knowledge is so much more important.
The one leg looked so crooked i started to worry about it buckling under.
I image he's using at least some heavy black pipe for this.
If it's thin walked stuff it seems a bit sketchy, but I have never seen him do anything really unsafe even if not everything is done that pinched ocia standard.
@@chuckthebull He DID state that it is schedule 40 pipe.
Yeah it's only 2" schedule 40 pipe plus the legs are long and at an angle. If the "feet" start to slide out it's coming down fast when once the pipe kinks. I wouldn't even do that with schedule 80 pipe. Also the force of the dual winches is going to flex the top side pipes inward. Round pipe is very sketchy in that configuration with 1/2 ton on it. Would hate to see him get hurt.
@@dev-debug I do agree with you.
“Hey guys we only have one lifting strap”. Dave, “no worries just give me a couple of minutes and I’ll forge some D-rings and sew them onto a strap and we’ll have another one.”
You never cease to amaze me Dave
Cheers
They are magnificent. It was something else watching them being made. Holding my breath with the weight factor.
Mr. Engels is a national treasure.
It was a pleasure to watch this episode again on 4-23-22 at 23:38
Been watching every show for about a year now. I am over 65 and constantly do the same thing that you do as in the inability to ask for help. Seems that we are always wanting to be in charge. I would tell you and I know it is hard but one day you will need some assistance. That person could learn a lot from you. Don’t hurt yourself with these huge wheels.
You don’t want to get into an arm wrestling contest with those things! His shoulder must be feeling better. 🤗
Thanks Mr. Engels, the scale between the two wagon Wheels is awesome!
Good to see that you will let the hoists do the heavy lifting.
DAVE: Those carribiner clips are handy but of sketchy strength and material unless stamped on the side. Very little metal holding them to together. Don't trust them unless holding a link on 'pass through' chain. I guess you welded those ends together without me seeing. Neat way of making those strap rings.
I wrap galvanized electric fence wire around a rod using a drill, and cut them, to make links for chainmail. Surprised to see you doing the same thing on a larger scale!
I have done that too and thought the same thing..."Dang that would make a big hauberk..."
you are one of the few this is becoming a lost craft. back in the day they were made every thing was made with hand tools and black smithed all the metal by hand. like all your video's and watching you put it all back like it was. take care, be safe and well.
This is exactly why Dave has created/is creating his library of videos. I just hope that he's got them on other platforms in case his channel gets again by someone that chooses to delete the videos instead of simply being a PITA. And in case TH-cam disappears or Google chooses to delete channels with low (in the future) viewership, after all of us are no longer here.
making the "D" rings for the nylon straps was clever, what a good idea. I thought for a minute you were going to have a video of dulling hoists, but it worked out well. Thanks for the video. David
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Дай Бог Здоровья! Этому человеку! Это Мастер своего дела!
Oh. I need some heavy duty lifting straps... I am continually amazed at your skills
You know some serious stuff coming up making your own D Rings.
Very interesting how you made the d rings. When you heated them in the forge did the weld them. I liked the looks of you working with the two control's on the winches.
How is your shoulder?
Doing better I hope!
Improving almost every day.
@@dianeengel4155 Glad to hear it!
With all your skills, you should build a tilting table that you can roll the wheel up to with little feet to hold it. Then just tilt the table back and set the wheel in the center. Save your back & shoulder. Nice straps by the way!
Happy Friday
Nice video. I would suggest to add some additional support to those beams ..they didn't looked pretty when you moved it around..and even if you are ok with moveing around it must be so strong it would move without worry braking one of those legs..so i would suggest to add one tube into corner of each leg so make it more traingle shaped..that will improve it a lot and you can be sure it will hold no matter what..
It's nice to see the wheels come home for a little TLC. 👍👍I am surprised you didn't already have at least two hoists in the shop. I am about to build a new woodworking machine shop and expect to have at least one hoist. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe. 🙂
The work arounds the lone mechanic must go through to get things done. And our significant others wonder why we need all those tools!
Mr. Engles I have been watching you videos for a long time now and have always admired how smart you are. But as a retired welder ( I am 75) I would never trust that 2” pipe to hold up to lifting the loads you put on it. Just my thoughts. Love your videos.
0:16 - ".. so we can adjust the wood .."
Shows what I know. I'd been assuming all along that this would be a process of shrinking the metal tires down to fit securely on the dry, shrunken wood.
Love those D-rings!
Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 30 Apr 22.
Excellent job working out a problem of not enough man power around to handle the wheel maneuvering. Slick as a whistle. Thanks for sharing with us. Stay safe and have fun with the project too. Fred.
Watching that hoist frame shake had me feeling like i drank too much coffee lol
TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOU NEXT WEEK...
دييغو نحييك من مصر اتابعك من زمان انت صانع محترف وعلى علم أيضا 🇪🇬💐 نحييك من مصر
Dave I don't think there is anything you can't make, a road block pops up and you always find a round it, I only wish I were as talented...
Dave is never tired of tires. Now the fun begins! Next week, learn how to change 500# tires.
Looks like your gantry could use a few gussets in the corners, eh?
You were lucky to get anything out of Vevor. I ordered a chain hoist and got a skate board deck. May be they are different in US to UK my experience was not good though
Wow! OSHA's gonna love this video.
I'm thrilled to see you using some overhead hoist. You work too hard to be struggling with those behemoth wheels! I hope the shoulder is on the mend as well.
Great job as usual! Love this channel!
Dave have you thought of putting a pipe lengthwise in the middle so the hoists will center themselves to the wheels.
I am also amazed of all the skills you have acquired over the years doing Wheelwright work.
Superb work!
Ive built dozens of hoist systems. Id put my WLL at about 250lbs on 2" gas pipe on a 10' span
But nice lookin shop. Wish i could make big ol web choker on a moments noticed
Doesn't look like his old shoulder injury flaring up has slowed him down that much but it will be all hands on deck when resetting the tire and perhaps a bit before it just in case.
Thanks Dave its always a pleasure to watch you and what you do. A long time ago I texted in the comment section as I am doing now. I was born and raised in Connecticut and the piece that you were working on the pivoted horizontal piece. In new England we called it a whiffletree and I was wondering if you ever heard that term Living in Washington State now and would love a drive over to your place.
Yes, we have.
The legs of your lifting frame are way more wobbly than I would be comfortable getting under when they are loaded. They look like they might spread any second like the legs of a deer on a frozen pond. I think you could use some angle bracing or gussets on those legs.
Like a few other people here, I am concerned about the pipe legs on your rigging. they were flexing pretty gud with the smaller of these wheels. What is going to happen with the larger ones. I'd think about adding some support to them and the frame where the winches are mounted also. Like putting Chicken soup on a cast, it can't hurt. and might save your ife if that rigging lets go. I know I would not want to play tag those big puppy's. be safe Dave. ECF
Sir its nice to see that you have those hoist . Instead off dong all that work he hard way . Looking forward to next week when you remove the tires. Thanks for your great videos.
Great work at a true artist !!!!!!!!!
Once again thanks for the video.
I think a little bracing on your lifting framework is called for!
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks Dave
Wheels dried out and shrunk in the desert and transported them back to a damper area, so I'm wondering if the tires won't be hard to slip back on. I do know Dave is the master, and will get it done!
This isn't a humid climate and it would take a lot longer to swell.
I wish I had your job, very cool!
Good thinking Dave have a day love from TEXAS
WOW big wheels Thanks young man.....Shoe🇺🇸
That was quite the dance once you had that wheel on both hoists.
“Sketchy Toombs, real sketchy” 😆
A flat packed wagon 😉, be careful as you may start a new trend dave .
another good video in the books
Pittsburgh is a Harbor freight Brand they still sell those hoist at my local store i have 2 of them in my shop .