Pin 6 is supposed to be an anti bump/rake pin. If you try to use a kinetic attack the pin will rotate and jiggle in the oblong slot which dissipates the energy side to side instead of pushing up the spring tension.
I was thinking similar... the smaller tip might make it harder to single pin pick due to slipping off or similar. Also might throw off someone with a rake because pin 7 is off from where it "should be" in an even distribution.
"Yale Israel" is a subcompany of Mul-t-lock in Israel, so essentially it is the same lock branded differently, with tje core replaced to suit the brand
Both owned by Assa Abloy Mul-t-lock founded 1973 , HQ in Yavne Israel ... Yale , founded 1868 , HQ in Lenoir city , Tennessee , USA Assa Abloy also own Medeco and Sargent . Also Abloy factory store sells Master Locks electronic padlock for some reason .
Yale, multlock and others are ownes by ASSAAboy global company, so they can and do share patents original idea is from mtl integrator, and they make cheaper version (same constrution but cheaper fabrication of this Yale or Garrison, i had both in hands and it can be seen on details..
This lock structure comes in 3 shackle diameters: 10 13 and 16 mm. They are originally designed to fit in a steel case to further pevent brute force attack. The steel case is even more heavy duty from the lock. It is intended for heavy seel gates or steel containera. The housing can be bolted to the gate/door, however it is usually welded into place. It will be interesting to see a destructive entry attempt on the fully armored version of this.
@@StopChangingUsernamesTH-cam Nice Idea, however I don't think it'll be a practical demonstration as Israel, where this is sold has strict firearm regulation laws, which I think make a ramset illegal and hard to come around by. Ironically, It WILL be a more plausable demonstration to take the lock with its enclosure to a shooting range ;) and use an M16 or ak47 on it
Btw, these are the images of the armored steel enclosure www.google.co.il/search?q=בית+למנעול+רתק&prmd=imnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjX68DD8aXeAhWQJ1AKHcMZBdwQ_AUIEygB&biw=360&bih=560
More interesting would be a picking attempt while the lock is upside down and stuck to the door as intended with all that hardened steel in the way. Good luck with that.
The key will have additional machining on position 6, anti copy protection. Blanks supplied with position 6 pre cut at a 6 cut with the extra machining.
Have you ever done a video on your favorite locks for different applications? I would love to see something along those lines to help know what to look for when purchasing locks. Or, if that is a little outside the scope of this channel, could you do one on your most difficult picks?
When you take apart that core, doing it over super fine sand is the correct solution (and any other similar type, i have a tiny tray with almost dust like sand).
I really appreciate all that you do I am very interested in the mechanisms of locked and how to bypass them currently I'm enrolled in online college in the it support specialist field I am trying to become part of the cybersecurity but I also have an interest in bypassing manual locks such as padlocks in the such
Take the hydraulic cutter to it, torch it and then go to the rifle range with that boat anchor. Oh let's not forget the slide hammer! :-) Thanks for the great video, as usual!
that pin reminds of the funky pin in the new mul-t-lock classic pro. but maybe it’s another unusual pin to throw in the “probably for bump resistance” category.
That strange looking pin is also used in Mul-t-lock integrator profile. It's just a pre made pin which fits into that oval hole. The key blanks also have a pre cut dimple for it. Not too sure on its added security capabilities though
That dust cover almost makes me wonder if this is a "Mighty Lock". Too bad they cheaped out on the pins, I assume it would have been much more difficult if they had used an interactive pinset in this padlock.
Abloy padlocks in the uk are marketed as 1 of the best around id love to know if this was true 1 has a brass body that I belive can be beaten by cutting it with bolt cutters not sure about the silver body ones though would love to see if you could defeat one.
HI LPL, nice vid as allways .. ;-) About the 6'th pin, its designed as a patent protection againts unautorized duplicating keys (cut on key is patented), this is a cheaper (same but from cheaper factory) version of mul-t-lock integrator (check the web) and numbers of keys means: 666P 66keyway(there are many different MTL keyvays) 6th position of "integrator pin" and P means pin and resp. cut on key are oriented to center of key/core, another key 666E means are oriented to side of key/core this combination uses Garrisson cylinders with tuquoise key bows MTL puts integrator pins to one of 3-6 positions and there is possible get even M integr. pin and keys means Master and is used in master key systems as a master key (key fits both orientation) and "M" pin can be operaten only by "M" key never hesitate ask me for more info ;-)
@Ian Duke yes, its about cut aside of sixth cut/dimple (from keybow) There is a atypical keypin with more than just tip (asother pins) this pin has "bar" aside of tip and if You don't have that cut (check key at 6:20 on video) on the key that atypical pin still protrudes from cylinder and You cannot turn.. ;-)
@Ian Duke..yes, on key is that gap "above" sixth cut :-) ).. i'm mot sure how that idea is old, but this variation for me is new (when mul-t-lock came with integrator model several years ago) new Garrisson and this YALE cylinders are just cheaper execution of MTL Integrator ;-) And Yes even in europe sometimes somebody tries patent some wery weak idea, but we have more strict rules about what can be patented (and idea must be new od modified with some sensible new..)
Either you are a master Lock Picker (I mean this as a compliment not at all a slight) or the art of lock picking is much easier than I really gave thought to. I have seen less, robust, locks give you more trouble than this fellow. It got picked and dismantled faster than I really ever expected it could. I asked this on another of your videos, which is, how can in our day a lock be the way we secure our goods? Given time and desire they are not really stopping anyone who wants what it defends. From physical means like the hydraulic cutter you have used to destroy shackles to this demonstration I am sure there is not a safe way we can defend ourselves from the well armed and informed criminal element. I guess, luckily, criminals are not anywhere near your level of intelligence (with obvious exception to that statement) and given more easy targets our only hope is they see a more tempting easier to enter structure (home, lock, etc) & "pick" that option instead of your or my structure. Thank you for the ever detailed show and many more to follow I hope.
Super cool that he keeps all the pins and pieces in order. It would be pointless for me, because I'd be overwhelmed and lost and just toss the whole thing
Wonderful picking. Another beautiful lock. LPL, that book by Graham Pulford is very hard to put down. It has me wanting badly to try some of these high security locks. Aside from Ebay, can you direct me as to where to find them at a decent price ?. Thanks in advance
Thoughts on using a shim between the core and the bible and then simply pulling the core away while holding the shim in place? Alternatively you can use a follower in a similar manner to how you would gut a lock with an encompassing bible, with or without a shim.
How does that core compare to the 7x7? Could it be posible ASSA ABLOY makes that padlock in the Mul-T-Lock factory and brands it Yale, since it doen't have a high security core?
The. Mul t lock has the same split Bible as this. They make a tool to hold them together to make assembly more easy. Can be done without it but it's a pita and I doubt you can make it so people watching a video can tell what your doing
The act of pushing against the pin with the pick counter-rotates the core. He slightly reduces tension to allow the core to counter-rotate and then it rotates again when actually setting the pin. This is something that happens with spools but not normal driver pins.
Pin 6 must have an oblong cross section to it, that would fit the oblong shape of hole number six. This is an anti rotation feature that keeps its ramped end oriented properly to the keyway. So what does it need to do that for? IDK.
@@lockpickinglawyer how will you get the driver pins back in if you cant slide anything over them ? , maybe a shim will hold them but it will be difficult :-)
Hello! I'm new to the lock picking hobby. I was just wondering what you mean when you say "counter rotation." Are you letting a small amount of pressure off of the Z-Bar?
I'll give you some questions worth considering: What are your insurers looking for when it comes to reducing premiums? E.g., do they want deadbolts on all external doors, locks or bars on all windows, audit trailed entry/exit on all external doors, no accessible ground floor windows, etc. What is your home environment like? E.g., do you live in the city l with busy pedestrian traffic, near a train station with busy morning/afternoon peak hour traffic, or more rurally with a less accessible/accessed road? Are you renting/leasing your property? If so, does your landlord approve? Do you live in a strata? If so, do they approve? Does your council have any restrictions on locks or where you may place locks? Hope this helps.
Is it for some sort of protection against raking? So it only responds well to perpendicular pressure...and has movement "slop" if someone inexperienced is raking it?
I don't know why this channel only has 237K subscribers. This is top-notch videography and content. There are pure crap channels with waaay more subscribers. Weird.
I think that pin six is cut that way so that it doesn't rotate as it's supposed to slip in that slot in the key, some times simple answers are the correct ones? I mean, what else could it possibly do, to my knowledge, having a non circular pin (of a rounded cross section) doesn't really affect picking speed.
hmm how would a bigger pin affect key control? I've only heard of key control through modified unique key ways or "do not duplicate" marking. Making a duplicate key of the one that engages the large pin would work the same, right? or am I missing something?
It might also make picking harder because the tip is more narrow, if you look at the tip of the pin then it's not the ordinary round variant. And it might be a key control thing - a groove is required in the key that's not present in the shape of the keyway, which might throw off those trying to make a key copy.
Non rotating pin with "triangle knife edge" is like DOM pins which can snag and capture dimple picks; if you lift too high and pick rotates into pin chamber, pin falls back down a bit, and your dimple pick flag is "captured" aka "capture the flag"
AFAIK magnetic locks are functionally unpickable and far cheaper. That said an immobiliser based system has the downside of needing power to operate.Depending on the failure mode it might be possibble to bypass the immobiliser. And even if it fails to secure a failed pick attempt could still brick your lock.
LPL, I just found this channel recently, and am curious about a couple terms. What is a False Set and what does Counter-rotation mean when picking? I imagine these are terms you have explained before, but with 700+ videos I thought I'd just ask.
bowen324, Not sure LPL reads all the comments - there are so many of them for every video! A false set is when the lock has non standard pins - usually spool driver pins. As you pick, the core ( plug ) turns slightly, due to the narrow section of a spool pin across the shearline. Thus a false set. This spool pin ( pins ) has to be picked of course, and as the key pin is moved with the pick, the core will slightly counter rotate as the spool pin crosses the shearline. Regards, Brian.
literally, rotational force in the opposite direction than he's going with the tension bar. It suggests that there is a spool pin that is currently binding on the center, slimmer portion, but when manipulating it with the pick, it wants the core to rotate counter to the current direction of pressure, i.e. "backwards", in order to get the wider part of the spool pin past the shear line. Hope that makes sense.
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Pin 6 is supposed to be an anti bump/rake pin. If you try to use a kinetic attack the pin will rotate and jiggle in the oblong slot which dissipates the energy side to side instead of pushing up the spring tension.
but the slot looks like the same shape as the base of the pin, where would it rotate?
Nah, it makes the pins proprietary, so if you ever wanted to rekey these locks, you would have to buy pins from them.
I was thinking similar... the smaller tip might make it harder to single pin pick due to slipping off or similar. Also might throw off someone with a rake because pin 7 is off from where it "should be" in an even distribution.
I honestly didn't think the lock was really that big.
Until your hand came into the screen...
True
I totally agree. Huge lock!
Mighty Lock 16# C is the same way, just has 10 pims
I must say, you do produce very good videos, and you're very good at picking locks.
When you showed the locking mechanism I immediately heard McNally's voice in my head:
"Springs spring"
"Yale Israel" is a subcompany of Mul-t-lock in Israel, so essentially it is the same lock branded differently, with tje core replaced to suit the brand
Not the same core, but yes. Same lock body.
Both owned by Assa Abloy
Mul-t-lock founded 1973 , HQ in Yavne Israel ... Yale , founded 1868 , HQ in Lenoir city , Tennessee , USA
Assa Abloy also own Medeco and Sargent .
Also Abloy factory store sells Master Locks electronic padlock for some reason .
Yale, multlock and others are ownes by ASSAAboy global company, so they can and do share patents original idea is from mtl integrator, and they make cheaper version (same constrution but cheaper fabrication of this Yale or Garrison, i had both in hands and it can be seen on details..
It's only sold in Israel, that's why it has such a big shekel.
Oy vey
Good one
wakka wakka
Get out.
Is
You could say that the Yale is smart enough to yield to the mighty LockPickingLawyer!
I find something similar in watching *LockPickingLawyer* and *mrPuzzle* . Great work, mister, thank you!
This lock structure comes in 3 shackle diameters: 10 13 and 16 mm. They are originally designed to fit in a steel case to further pevent brute force attack. The steel case is even more heavy duty from the lock. It is intended for heavy seel gates or steel containera. The housing can be bolted to the gate/door, however it is usually welded into place.
It will be interesting to see a destructive entry attempt on the fully armored version of this.
"This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today we are continuing our series of videos showing how the Yale 16 fares against the Ramset gun."
@@StopChangingUsernamesTH-cam Nice Idea, however I don't think it'll be a practical demonstration as Israel, where this is sold has strict firearm regulation laws, which I think make a ramset illegal and hard to come around by.
Ironically, It WILL be a more plausable demonstration to take the lock with its enclosure to a shooting range ;) and use an M16 or ak47 on it
@@doncervera Ironically you can buy a Ramset in the UK...
Btw, these are the images of the armored steel enclosure
www.google.co.il/search?q=בית+למנעול+רתק&prmd=imnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjX68DD8aXeAhWQJ1AKHcMZBdwQ_AUIEygB&biw=360&bih=560
More interesting would be a picking attempt while the lock is upside down and stuck to the door as intended with all that hardened steel in the way. Good luck with that.
The key will have additional machining on position 6, anti copy protection. Blanks supplied with position 6 pre cut at a 6 cut with the extra machining.
Quite a handful! Your videos are great thank you.
Beautiful lock. I don't think I've ever seen you do an ugly gutting. Great info. 😎✌🍺
Have you ever done a video on your favorite locks for different applications? I would love to see something along those lines to help know what to look for when purchasing locks. Or, if that is a little outside the scope of this channel, could you do one on your most difficult picks?
There's a special gutting tool for this lock which looks like a large oval C clip. Once you start extracting the gut you push it into the clip
As always awesome picking bud!
When you take apart that core, doing it over super fine sand is the correct solution (and any other similar type, i have a tiny tray with almost dust like sand).
aserta why?
Great picking brother as always and thanks for the review
I really appreciate all that you do I am very interested in the mechanisms of locked and how to bypass them currently I'm enrolled in online college in the it support specialist field I am trying to become part of the cybersecurity but I also have an interest in bypassing manual locks such as padlocks in the such
Nice picking on that great looking Yale.
Great padlock my friend.
For newer lock-sport enthusiasts, or interested consumers, have you considered making a "Things To Look For" video?
Things to *Lock* for
@@NooseKey get out
@@NooseKey Disgusting.
@@catlover732 did you mean dis-lock-ing?
That looks like a tough lock to pick in theory, but you make it look easy 👍🏻
Your picking skills are impressive!
I've only just started learning to pick and am binge watching your videos. They're fantastic!!!
Cracking job my friend👍😊😊😎😎
love your vids man
Number six is obviously a dreidle(sp) pin.
Oy vey!
The clicks are satisfying
Take the hydraulic cutter to it, torch it and then go to the rifle range with that boat anchor. Oh let's not forget the slide hammer! :-) Thanks for the great video, as usual!
LPL is truly a master in this lock-picking business 😎
Good video. Would like to see you put the lock back together though.
Looks like a difficult pick. LPL you handled it well.
Even if the lock was HUGE🤣
Looks like keypin 6 is shaped to fit into the obling opening. It seems to force the pin in place to match the key.
that pin reminds of the funky pin in the new mul-t-lock classic pro. but maybe it’s another unusual pin to throw in the “probably for bump resistance” category.
That strange looking pin is also used in Mul-t-lock integrator profile. It's just a pre made pin which fits into that oval hole. The key blanks also have a pre cut dimple for it. Not too sure on its added security capabilities though
Nice video, as all ways!!!!
You go through these locks like shit slides off a shovel!💩💨😮 I've finally subbed!
That dust cover almost makes me wonder if this is a "Mighty Lock".
Too bad they cheaped out on the pins, I assume it would have been much more difficult if they had used an interactive pinset in this padlock.
Abloy padlocks in the uk are marketed as 1 of the best around id love to know if this was true 1 has a brass body that I belive can be beaten by cutting it with bolt cutters not sure about the silver body ones though would love to see if you could defeat one.
You make picking these locks so easy that im not sure anymore, what padlock to get for my "stuff". Maybe my perception is just off. Lol
Good Luck
HI LPL, nice vid as allways .. ;-)
About the 6'th pin, its designed as a patent protection againts unautorized duplicating keys (cut on key is patented),
this is a cheaper (same but from cheaper factory) version of mul-t-lock integrator (check the web)
and numbers of keys means: 666P 66keyway(there are many different MTL keyvays) 6th position of "integrator pin" and P means pin and resp. cut on key are oriented to center of key/core, another key 666E means are oriented to side of key/core this combination uses Garrisson cylinders with tuquoise key bows
MTL puts integrator pins to one of 3-6 positions and there is possible get even M integr. pin and keys means
Master and is used in master key systems as a master key (key fits both orientation)
and "M" pin can be operaten only by "M" key
never hesitate ask me for more info ;-)
@Ian Duke yes, its about cut aside of sixth cut/dimple (from keybow)
There is a atypical keypin with more than just tip (asother pins) this pin has "bar" aside of tip and if You don't have that cut (check key at 6:20 on video) on the key that atypical pin still protrudes from cylinder and You cannot turn.. ;-)
@Ian Duke..yes, on key is that gap "above" sixth cut :-) )..
i'm mot sure how that idea is old, but this variation for me is new (when mul-t-lock came with integrator model several years ago) new Garrisson and this YALE cylinders are just cheaper execution of MTL Integrator ;-)
And Yes even in europe sometimes somebody tries patent some wery weak idea, but we have more strict rules about what can be patented (and idea must be new od modified with some sensible new..)
Dat hellish 666 key marking! XD
Nice job again! But i'd like to see assembling process too. Can you do this time to time?
So simple yet so complicated.
I'm calling that key the evil key; why? It has "666" on its keyblade. 😂
666p sir ;)
Did you just assume Robert's gender?
i knew it was serious when he pulled out the sparrow
As anticipated that was pretty ugly (4:00 ) made me laugh!
Great picking LPL...
Either you are a master Lock Picker (I mean this as a compliment not at all a slight) or the art of lock picking is much easier than I really gave thought to. I have seen less, robust, locks give you more trouble than this fellow. It got picked and dismantled faster than I really ever expected it could. I asked this on another of your videos, which is, how can in our day a lock be the way we secure our goods? Given time and desire they are not really stopping anyone who wants what it defends. From physical means like the hydraulic cutter you have used to destroy shackles to this demonstration I am sure there is not a safe way we can defend ourselves from the well armed and informed criminal element. I guess, luckily, criminals are not anywhere near your level of intelligence (with obvious exception to that statement) and given more easy targets our only hope is they see a more tempting easier to enter structure (home, lock, etc) & "pick" that option instead of your or my structure. Thank you for the ever detailed show and many more to follow I hope.
I think you could test this lock against a hydraulic bolt cutters as it is 16mm and it can hold a shackle guard as you say.
Super cool that he keeps all the pins and pieces in order. It would be pointless for me, because I'd be overwhelmed and lost and just toss the whole thing
Wonderful picking. Another beautiful lock. LPL, that book by Graham Pulford is very hard to put down. It has me wanting badly to try some of these high security locks. Aside from Ebay, can you direct me as to where to find them at a decent price ?. Thanks in advance
Big shackle, but then you could cut the relatively slim casing at the top and slide the exterior body right off.
Thoughts on using a shim between the core and the bible and then simply pulling the core away while holding the shim in place? Alternatively you can use a follower in a similar manner to how you would gut a lock with an encompassing bible, with or without a shim.
This mans voice is very nice
Even though it has a big shackle I would just cut the outer casing off. Do you think that would be easier then even the smallest shackle
How does that core compare to the 7x7? Could it be posible ASSA ABLOY makes that padlock in the Mul-T-Lock factory and brands it Yale, since it doen't have a high security core?
The key to hell apparently
Ah, a suitcase lock!
Position 6 is probably a crude key control element.
I would like to see a video of you putting this lock and pins back together??
Shaun Novorosky seems like it’s gonna be pretty hard
@@sfsaviation Agreed indeed!!
This, complete with all of the swearing and failed attempts.
The. Mul t lock has the same split Bible as this. They make a tool to hold them together to make assembly more easy. Can be done without it but it's a pita and I doubt you can make it so people watching a video can tell what your doing
Not too hard with the plastic clip that holds the bible and plug together. I used to be a Mul-T-Lock dealer and keyed these regularly.
16 actually derives from the m16 standard issue assault trifle hehe
uhm, what makes this lock "smart"? ... just asking ;)
I think it is referring to its designers.
This is just my shot in the dark so don’t quote me on it.
It went to college.
I wanna see you put it back together.
Well i got here a bit late so can you do a very basic video about locks, cores and your tools please.
Multilock Intergator with the special pin in chamber 6 instead of chamber 3
I whant to see you pick the new bowley 543 pad lock
When you say "counterrotation", are you yourself turning the tension back, or is the act of setting the pin turning the core back?
The act of pushing against the pin with the pick counter-rotates the core. He slightly reduces tension to allow the core to counter-rotate and then it rotates again when actually setting the pin. This is something that happens with spools but not normal driver pins.
@@joshuarosen6242 There are some good videos showing how this works with big wooden pins.
Pin 6 must have an oblong cross section to it, that would fit the oblong shape of hole number six. This is an anti rotation feature that keeps its ramped end oriented properly to the keyway. So what does it need to do that for? IDK.
see my comment to aserta
Have you ever had a lockpick break?
Like in the video games where it takes very little for the picks to break
Great picking LPL, as usual. What if you slide the top part over the core as with a follower and pins would fall apart one by one?
There is a metal piece keeping the two parts indexed... they don’t slide.
You are wright, after viewing it again there's a piece of metal preventing it from sliding!
@@lockpickinglawyer
how will you get the driver pins back in if you cant slide anything over them ? , maybe a shim will hold them but it will be difficult :-)
Since theres a spring, does this mean the lock is shimmable as well? 🤔
Was no. 6 keypin oval as well? It looked wider than the other keypins.
I believe pin 6 is meant to be proprietary, forcing you to purchase THEIR pins when you want to rekey a lock.
Maybe #6 is a pin to lock the key in the cylinder while the lock is open?
Lost my Bike key. If I want to lockpick it open, should I use WD40 to oil the weather locked up?
Cool
Wow, I wonder how long it would take to grind through that shackle!
@SegaDisneyUniverse
you would probably have to cut it twice bit with a thin cutting disc you would take about a minute to have the lock off :-)
@@YTANDY100 Ah, okay.
Hello! I'm new to the lock picking hobby. I was just wondering what you mean when you say "counter rotation." Are you letting a small amount of pressure off of the Z-Bar?
What do you think about Abloy Protec 2 euro cylinder? Do you think it is overkill for a regular home use?
I'll give you some questions worth considering:
What are your insurers looking for when it comes to reducing premiums? E.g., do they want deadbolts on all external doors, locks or bars on all windows, audit trailed entry/exit on all external doors, no accessible ground floor windows, etc.
What is your home environment like? E.g., do you live in the city l with busy pedestrian traffic, near a train station with busy morning/afternoon peak hour traffic, or more rurally with a less accessible/accessed road?
Are you renting/leasing your property? If so, does your landlord approve?
Do you live in a strata? If so, do they approve?
Does your council have any restrictions on locks or where you may place locks?
Hope this helps.
I’m still looking for the best lock for my bicycle
Yesterday I tried and picked my first padlock thanks to @LockPickingLawyer in 2 seconds with paperclip and piece of belt buckle.
Did you get it back together properly?
Idea a lock that makes a falsetto tone when it false in a false set
cool video, are you gonna research that weird pin and shape in the core ?
Is it for some sort of protection against raking? So it only responds well to perpendicular pressure...and has movement "slop" if someone inexperienced is raking it?
I don't know why this channel only has 237K subscribers. This is top-notch videography and content. There are pure crap channels with waaay more subscribers. Weird.
Give it time
That's probably 100% of the youtubers into lockpicking 😂
I think that pin six is cut that way so that it doesn't rotate as it's supposed to slip in that slot in the key, some times simple answers are the correct ones?
I mean, what else could it possibly do, to my knowledge, having a non circular pin (of a rounded cross section) doesn't really affect picking speed.
Maybe drill protection? It's thicker and a different colored metal. Then again, it is towards the rear.
Key control perhaps?
hmm how would a bigger pin affect key control? I've only heard of key control through modified unique key ways or "do not duplicate" marking. Making a duplicate key of the one that engages the large pin would work the same, right? or am I missing something?
It might also make picking harder because the tip is more narrow, if you look at the tip of the pin then it's not the ordinary round variant. And it might be a key control thing - a groove is required in the key that's not present in the shape of the keyway, which might throw off those trying to make a key copy.
Non rotating pin with "triangle knife edge" is like DOM pins which can snag and capture dimple picks; if you lift too high and pick rotates into pin chamber, pin falls back down a bit, and your dimple pick flag is "captured" aka "capture the flag"
"Don't know why they do that?" (Doesn't slow me down.. ;-s )
From Israel and the key says 666p on it lol
Is their any type of lock that cant be picked?
LPL, do you loosen all the fasteners before you shoot a video? It seems like none of the fasteners you loosen are anywhere near torque spec.
They should put some kind of immobilizer tech, like the one that most modern cars are equipped with, inside of those padlocks.
They have this... if you want to pay $600+ for a Padlock.
Wouldn't it basically make the any lock pickproof?
AFAIK magnetic locks are functionally unpickable and far cheaper. That said an immobiliser based system has the downside of needing power to operate.Depending on the failure mode it might be possibble to bypass the immobiliser. And even if it fails to secure a failed pick attempt could still brick your lock.
When will you pick the lock to the door of the prison of your obsession?
LPL, I just found this channel recently, and am curious about a couple terms. What is a False Set and what does Counter-rotation mean when picking? I imagine these are terms you have explained before, but with 700+ videos I thought I'd just ask.
bowen324, Not sure LPL reads all the comments - there are so many of them for every video! A false set is when the lock has non standard pins - usually spool driver pins. As you pick, the core ( plug ) turns slightly, due to the narrow section of a spool pin across the shearline. Thus a false set. This spool pin ( pins ) has to be picked of course, and as the key pin is moved with the pick, the core will slightly counter rotate as the spool pin crosses the shearline. Regards, Brian.
Many Thanks, Brian.
How did you reassemble it?
What do you mean by counter rotation?
Are you talking about relieving tension on the core?
literally, rotational force in the opposite direction than he's going with the tension bar. It suggests that there is a spool pin that is currently binding on the center, slimmer portion, but when manipulating it with the pick, it wants the core to rotate counter to the current direction of pressure, i.e. "backwards", in order to get the wider part of the spool pin past the shear line. Hope that makes sense.
Wow, a six-minute video. Must be a better padlock.
What did u use to put everything in??
I have this problem with a pair of handcuffs...
what does he mean by counter rotation?
The key looks odd in the sixth position as well, at least to me.