Are Sound Designers Doomed? Exploring Eleven Labs' AI SFX Generator

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  • @ivansoto9723
    @ivansoto9723 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oml this AI is really good at generating bass and basslines because it has a bias towards mono and mono+chorus sounds. It can generate nice pads too but whether they are stereo or not is pretty random. Also, it seems like the quality of treble and mids isn't the greatest rn.
    I've been getting interesting results using elaborate references in prompts to vintage synths, PCM synths, Miles Davis etc.
    Typing in Galaxy Space-Echo delay after some things has given me some interesting results.
    I think the next step after this, is AI understanding chord progressions or voicing styles in prompts.

  • @TheSoundFXGuy
    @TheSoundFXGuy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Regardless of your stance on AI in the entertainment industry, I think videos like this are SUPER important in regards to where we are technology wise and the potential job security risks it could present. I'm not saying it will replace us but I'm also not saying that it won't. As Cactuzz mentioned, only time will tell. So I think it's good to at least be informed. Personally, I think AI can have a place in your toolbox but I agree that these sounds are not production ready. The human element of mixing/blending layers and applying post-processing effects like reverbs/EQ/gain matching/etc is still a must at this stage. You can't build a house with only a hammer.

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed, thank you :)

  • @ChristianIce
    @ChristianIce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will it remove the need for libraries?
    Yes-
    Will it take the place of sound designers?
    No, there's a lot more going on than simply "click and generate".
    So what will happen?
    Sound designers will use their usual skills, plus they will be able to generate stuff with AI instead of simply scraping sample libraries.
    All the editing, the mixing, the layering, the taste in putting together sounds that work with each other, will be done by them, because they know how to do it right.

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And that’s the vision I like and hoping for. But maybe with libraries still being alive :)

    • @ChristianIce
      @ChristianIce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cactuzzsound
      There will be space for libraries as long as "abstract" is what you need... yet again, if that's your gig, you are probably doing that for a specific project where personality can shine.
      Doing something really specific and then trying to sell it for generic products doesn't really work together, I think.

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ChristianIce Word.

  • @jameshughes3014
    @jameshughes3014 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    drum machines didn't replace drummers. synthesizers didn't replace orchestras. But both can make perfect amazing sounding replicas. Like the image generators I expect music and sound generators to just give people another option but not to be the only, or even the best choice for most people looking for art for their game, movie, tv show, channel, etc

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a nice insight, hope you’re right :)

    • @SodtwareSensei
      @SodtwareSensei หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      drum machines definitely replaced drummers.

    • @jameshughes3014
      @jameshughes3014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SodtwareSensei I'm sure there were drummers that did not get a job working on a commercial, but that's not the same as being replaced. We definitely still have drummers. If you were in a band and got replaced by a machine you were either not a good drummer, or you were in the wrong kind of band. When I talk about replacing musicians,I mean they were not displaced, they were still able to work

    • @SodtwareSensei
      @SodtwareSensei หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jameshughes3014 you aren’t thinking broadly enough. What percentage of new music generated and performed included a drummer 1964 vs 2024?
      Drummers were a complete necessity to make money in music 60 years ago, you required (*) a drummer.
      But not today. What percentage of Billboard top 10 songs include a real drummer versus synthetically programmed drums? Compare that to 1950.
      So yes, drummers haven’t completely died off. But, neither have rail road conductors. The new technology doesn’t completely kill the old industry, but it greatly diminishes the old over time and turns it into a novelty.
      Today, it’s the people who can sit in their bedrooms and compose an entire song using drum machines and synths that have all of the opportunity to make money in music. Orchestras are a niche novelty.
      The opportunities coming available in the future are for solo creative generalists who can leverage Ai to expand their creative output.
      Imagine one person who can do the work of an entire team by themselves. One creative visionary leveraging Ai to write, produce, engineer, music, edit, market, etc.
      Everything is about to change. Fast. So get prepared.

    • @jameshughes3014
      @jameshughes3014 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @SodtwareSensei That's a logical fallacy. Just because machines do a thing doesn't mean people stop doing it or stop finding success. there are probably more drummers now. There are still plenty of bands that have them. Statistics that are comparable between now and then aren't easy to find, but we don't need to because Looking at 64 and 94 tells us what we need to know since drum machines were popularized in between. there were only 223 new bands in 1964. There were over 700 in 1994. And lots of those bands had drummers, remember grunge music? so probably more bands with drummers , more drummers with jobs, in the 90s. I'd bet there were more than 2000 new bands in 2024 (only taking into account 'successful' bands for comparability, but success means something very different today) so probably more drummers now than then, even considering that only a fraction of those bands have drummers. They didn't go away. There were over 200,000 drum kits sold in 2005, and that's was long after drum machines were invented. clearly, people are still drumming. If drum machines had replaced drummers, we wouldn't have nirvana or tool or primus or Tom Petty and the heartbreakers or Metallica or RHCP or system of a down.. man I could list bands with good drummers that came around after the 70s all day long. Drum machines did not replace drummers. They didn't even reduce the number of people drumming.

  • @nicolasm.bronner2747
    @nicolasm.bronner2747 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    we're still safe 😁, don't know for how many years though.

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eyes open!

    • @BeatMachine3000
      @BeatMachine3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      have you looked into suno or udio? 😃

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, it’s doin its job in terms of generating music, but still long road ahead to be gem. And I am not sure how the royalties are managed from authors used to feed AI. Same with EL.

  • @vidworxsfx
    @vidworxsfx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Vid as always, however I knew right away that was AI reading the copy as it sounded nothing like your voice LOL ...The quality of the AI Based SFX does not sound that great in my opin so I agree no comparison, sounds lack depth to my ears. I do not see this as replacing real sound design. As well it should not. Plus my question is while they list there training on SFX from ShutterStock artist had to create whats offered on that platform, so do the individual artists that contributed to the platform get paid on SFX that this AI is training on? I ask this as the 2 Biggest music AI platforms UDIO and Suno are currency being sued by the 3 Largest record companies for possible copyright infringement so how is this any different? Lets say they decide to train their AI on Pond5 where I have a bunch of my on SFX who's to stop them from training on my SFX as well as others who never gave permission to do this without compensation. This is why I see AI as a big problem till much is ironed out.

    • @cactuzzsound
      @cactuzzsound  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So much yet to be discussed and regulated. Strange but amazing times we live in.