Coleman BT200X | Don't Buy A Torque Converter For Your BT200X Before Watching This! | Wet Coast Fab
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- The stock centrifugal clutch on the Coleman BT200X mini bike is decent enough, but it has limitations when faced with more demanding conditions. For example, I experienced difficulty getting the mini bike going up a steep hill, as the clutch dragged the engine down, preventing it from providing enough power to overcome the hill.
In a previous video ( • Coleman BT200X Mini Bi... , I tried to run the Coleman minibike through about 18" of snow. While traction was tricky, the centrifugal clutch caused a lot of drag, preventing the engine from getting up to speed.
In this video, I'm installing a Vevor torque converter (a continuously variable transmission) that should allow the engine to rev up faster and help the bike reach a higher speed. This transmission is a copy of the Comet TAV2 transmission, commonly found in bigger street scooters.
I encounter some challenges during this installation, and I'm unsure if the HiSun 196cc engine with its 16mm shaft will work with the Vevor torque converter. However, I plan on replacing the HiSun with a 212cc engine soon, which has a 3/4" shaft, making it compatible with the torque converter.
Join me as I figure out this installation process!
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0:00 - Introduction
0:49 - The stock centrifugal clutch
1:58 - The new torque convert transmission unboxed
3:08 - Kiki the cat comes to inspect
3:11 - Torque converter components in detail
3:44 - 5/8" (16mm) to 3/4" shaft adapter
3:48 - HiSun engine output shaft
4:41 - Getting a top speed baseline on the minibike
5:10 - Baseline top speed results
5:26 - Removing the old centrifugal clutch and jack shaft
6:38 - The crankshaft seal on the HiSun motor is leaking after 3 hours!
7:14 - Installing the new torque converter
7:24 - Cross support is in the way!
7:42 - Frame interference!
8:18 - The plan to install the torque converter
8:46 - Warranty warning!
9:28 - Removing the throttle cable
9:52 - Removing the kill switch wires
10:04 - Disconnecting the headlight connector
10:17 - Disconnecting the engine from the engine mount
10:29 - Thinking out loud about the engine spacer
11:01 - Cutting out the cross support
11:07 - Test fitting the torque convert backing plate
12:37 - The clutch bolt is wrong for this engine
14:04 - The shaft adapter is too thick
14:19 - Using the engine and some sandpaper to make the adapter fit
14:59 - Banging on the first half of the driving pulley
15:40 - Putting on the belt bushing
15:52 - Putting on the belt
16:01 - Checking alignment of engine and chain
17:05 - The first attempt at an engine spacer
18:35 - Reassembled, outside and ready to test!
19:15 - First start
19:30 - First ride!
20:04 - Messing with the governor
21:57 - Another test start with more throttle movement
22:08 - Still not running great
22:31 - My first attempts at engine mount's not so good
23:02 - A much better engine mount with square tubing
23:35 - Another test ride
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Everyone thinks the original engine sux and the pred is better, but, the hisun stock motor is just as good. T/c installation is a pain. Misalignments must be dealt with. Removal of internal governor and use of a better spark plug goes a long way. Good work, Wet Coast Lab! I get 60mph, but rarely use it.
That 196 is gay as this guy. Just put a 212 on it get rid of the gov. And stop drinking sperm.
I used hockey pucks for my engine risers. There one inch tall and provide engine dampening.
That is an amazing idea, Andrew! I think I'll do that when I put a bigger engine in her. Thanks!
Haha that's awesome 👌
This is a great idea!!! Perfect isolators
This video helped alot, It pointed me in all the right directions for putting a torque converter on my BT200x, I had on issue of alignment of the CVT and rear sprockets but that can be fixed by cutting and moving spacers on the axle and rotating the brake out of the way of the adjuster.
Very fun once I got it working though does probably around 50/60 kph with a 208cc without a govern, might puta performance carb on and see what happens
Thank you for the comment and I'm glad that this video helped you! Have fun!
The torque converter can be adjusted by moving the internal spring or installing a different strength spring and a different Sprocket Size will also help.
Get the 224 from Harbor Freight! They are great engines!
I have a few 301s.....
@@JDZiemba1773need a 1 inch tc driver pulley right?
@@spencerjohnson1499 the output shaft on the 301 is 1in diameter....
Omb warehouse makes a great engine riser for minibikes and it worked perfectly on both my BTX and CT200U EX with converter.
Thanks for the info! I'll check them out!
If you want to go faster, you need to change your rear sprocket to a smaller one. Your original drivetrain gear reduction that you took off was a lot smaller than your torque converter. The sprockets were smaller. Now you went from basically 3 inches to like 10 inch gear reduction with a torque converter when you take off, so you can put a smaller sprocket at the rear wheel and still have enough torque to climb your hills, but increase your top speed.
Thanks for the advice, Dan! I'll try out some different gear ratios soon!
You can get 30+ mph on the stock 196cc. Take the throttle stop screw out and throw it in the garbage. Remove the gas tank. Then move the governor spring that connects beneath throttle assembly to the furthest hole on the governor arm. You should get up to 34mph no prob.
Wish I knew this before I went through all the work of taking the throttle linkage off😭
Followed your instructions now bike doesn’t get fuel.
@@billyschannel997 😂
Yeah, I replaced my engine with the Tillessen with the torque converter. What a difference.
Just an awesome relaxing video!
Tnx 4 sharing! :D
Thank you for the kind words, Eduardo! They are very much appreciated!
Yea iv got a 196cc got upgraded valve springs carb jets free flowing exhaust and intake zip tied governor tc and 60 tooth rear sprocket it climbs hills like a beast but honestly when I have the money I'm going to get a Tillotson 224cc
My dad put a snowmobile engine in my mini cycle with the stock clutch but the other torque converter. It would go 0-80 like now. My clutch was 5Xs bigger than yours. But I don’t understand why more companies don’t do what you’re doing.
Good video. Sorry it didn’t turn out.
The Trailmaster mb200 comes with a torque converter and both a front and rear suspension! It's more money but worth it IMO! Thanks!
Love it! Thanks for the feedback! My family keeps asking my why I keep spending money on this minibike and not just buy a 'real' motorcycle instead ... they don't get it ;-)
A long exhaust can pick up a lot of power. A youtuber named Black66 just did a video comparing short and long exhaust.
Thanks! I'll check it out!
I'm so glad you made a video on this! I ran into the same issues with my bike and it's good to know that it's not just me! I put a basically stock 212 on my Coleman with a torque converter and honestly was disappointed. I put a 60 tooth rear sprocket on it, played around with jetting and exhaust setups (which did seem to help) and still it just didn't pull like it should've. It was faster than stock for sure, especially after bypassing the governor, but without extensive flow mods these motors just don't rev out enough to max those pulleys out.
Thanks for that feedback, RJ! After doing a bunch of research I think the only way that using a torque converter effectively is to either remove the governor (and accept the risks associated with that) so the engine gets over 5,000 rpm or replace the weights/spring in the torque converter's clutch so they open up sooner. I'll be messing with the governor removal in a future video to see how that works out. I've got one more thing to try first though.
@@wetcoastfab in those Amazon torque converters the driver pulleys engagement is controlled by springs, so in theory you could stretch them out and it would fully engage earlier. Not sure about the driven pulley though. I’d be interested to see how that would work though
Yeah, on more 'conventional' scooters, they typically have a set of ceramic rollers in the clutch or driven pulley and you can replace them with heavier or lighter rollers to change the 'shift' point of the CV transmission - maybe that's a mod I could try: rollers!
Removing the governor on a stock 196/212 on a Coleman 200 with a torque converter and stock gearing is a complete waste of time. You'll never see 5K RPM.
The best basic setup for these bikes is a stage 1 kit (look that up), a torque converter, and a 60 tooth sprocket. Back out the throttle screw and you are good to go with nice low end and decent top speed. Keep the governor and stock linkage.
Pulling the governor is for guys building potent performance engines that use Mikuni style carbs and run higher than 6K RPM. Pulling the governor is also for guys who do not yet know what they are doing and just want more RPM and top speed for their bikes that use a standard clutch.
I have had my CT200U's for six years. If you rode either one of them you would agree that there's no need to pull the governor.
Learn how to tune the driver and driven before dismissing a TC. They can be made to work with most any engine.
Just bought two, thank you for the video. I think I'll hold off until I upgrade my the predator.
Thanks for that, Jordan! I did finally get the HiSun engine performing well enough to hit 30mph, but I had to re-jet the carb and mess with the governor spring tension. That'll be my next video soon. I'm also starting the 'Predator' upgrade now as well.
You have a 45 tooth rear sprocket. I have changed to 60 tooth I would recommend doing so you will be glad you did! OMB Warehouse will have the 60 tooth. Also A honda GX390 jet that you find online or at local lawnmower shop will fix your lean top end.
Thanks, Good! I'll check it out!
I had to sand down the clutch every time I took it out or it would slip. But I’ve known this forever. I’ve been having mini bikes, my whole life, dirt bikes, checked out out, put a torque converter on it stage two kit and the motor now the thing goes pretty good.
Great advice!
After removing the governor and replacing the flywheel with one that won't grenade at higher rpms, you need to switch the clutch pulley to a Juggernaut or another like it if you want to go faster. The ones that come with the CVTs limit the engine's ability to reach it's potential. The rpms will have a higher limit with a juggernaut.
Thanks for the great info, John!
Not always. My Coleman runs higher than 50 MPH with the stock TAV driver. Juggernauts are for guys with 7500 RPM plus engines. They are not what you want to run with a stock engine.
If he's running that slow there's something wrong. And pulling the governor will not increase speed on any stock Coleman 200 with a torque converter. The engine never makes it to stock governed RPM with the stock Coleman gearing once the belt shifts to high. It's still going to top out governor or no governor.
Go with a tillotson electric start engine because the stock flywheel can handle 10,000 from the factory.
Misinformation. Comet 30 series drivers can "stall" well over 5000 rpm with the correct spring and weight combination.
@@rocknrolljesus3197 Not talking 'bout stall, I'm talking 'bout more rpms and a faster top speed. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
You need a PWK 28 plus a 212 predator and take out the governor from the inside
i like buying he hisun engines off ppl that upgrade to predators. i buy them for as cheap as half the price of a 212cc or less. order couple parts, remove governer and boom were gapping the predator swapped minis. :D
Love it, Pedro! The thought had crossed my mind that there were a lot of HiSuns out there because of that
@@wetcoastfab even just a simple zip tie on governor spring, and "stage 1" filter pod, 18lb springs and no throttle screw, would move this bike. we use them all the time up in browns camp. check my channel. got plenty more on my IG: PNW_MiniMafia
There's nothing wrong with the Hisun 196. Mine has started on the first pull every spring for 6 years and is a strong runner for a mainly stock engine.
Mini bikes ride it fix it make it faster then do it all over again !!!! I love it !!!
It's an addiction, that's for sure!
Great vid. Interesting and informative with lots of great tips. I can't wait to see what happens with the new jets. PS - When I was a kid back in the 70s, a lot of us had minibikes with 3.5HP Tecumseh engines and similar centrifugal clutches. We used to bypass the governor spring with a paperclip and got about an extra 5mph. Cheers from Canada :-)
Love it! Those were the days, eh?
@@wetcoastfab Eh what?
@@robinbrowne5419 Back when we had those non-suspensioned, lawnmower-powered, exposed chains and no instruction death-traps as kids 😀
@@wetcoastfab Yes. My sister borrowed my minibike and got her bell-bottom pants caught in the chain 😅 But she still loved riding it anyway, and now she has a Honda Rebel 500, 50 years later 👍
Or a dentist lol
Good stuff and good convo in the comments. Thought I'd share my experiences w both 196 and 212 so far... I have a new stock Coleman 200 w the standard 196. I just bent the governor tab way back and it went from 19 to 25 mph. Then I had carb issues anyway so put on a Mikuni (and gov removal), now goes 30mph and I am 210 lbs. Next will be a header pipe to get me prob to 33 or 34 mph and I think I'll stop there. (Prob getting a dirt bike next) Also built a gokart w my son...put a Predator 212 w torque converter and 60 tooth sprocket. Backed out the governor screw 3/4 and it goes 35 mph for my son, 30 for me.
Wow, Bill! Thanks for the detailed information! There's so many ways to mod these little bikes for more performance!
problems of u tube 1. knowing your way around any engine you about to modify. 101. understanding what the parts identificaton is an its job 101. at the least having some idea of what to exspect from the modd 101. unfortunity in this case wanting more performnce out of the machine ( absolutly req. from a males perspect. i may be biase on this point but i agree. ). exshaust at this level absolutly a waste of time an money. carb modify again absolute wast of time an money. concept of engine req. again very good knowing haw to apply in this case F +. first mech mistake that was not the gov. screw that boke his screw dr. that was a throttel limiter. limits fuel. more few more speed right ? yes but this isnt the cause of low rpms. with gov limiter restricting rpms you only blew more fuel unused out the pipe. tail pipe that is unspent an still wet lol. 2 plastic zip ties with no modds to the bike an i mean none. would reult in a 10 mph gain. at no point would have to open or remove engine an take about 2 min. to exsecute. i would advise not over rev . for long periods of time. short spurts at your own call. u should be ok. i heard. which why i say all is hear say if u werent there from anyone i take no responsibility for anyone even me. good luick my friends lifes a battle buy a good helment. then wear it.
What up young blood, yo Volt sold me the street tire for my minibike. The bike feels so balanced and smooth. Perfect tires.
Hey hey! Yeah, I need to get better tires on this thing. I'm hoping to eventually hit 50 mph on it and the AT19x7-8s would probably disintegrate!
Third party air filter recommended! Love your channel
Thanks for the kind words! It's so appreciated!
Did you check the actual sprocket alignment from the rear wheel to the torque converter? Without moving the sprocket or engine you should be out of alignment by about 1/4 inch. To fix it you can use an adapter with a steel ring sprocket to offset closer to the tire.
I did, thanks! I left enough adjustment in the spacer I made for the engine to allow me to move the engine left/right by up to 1/2"
Thats missing you spoke of is just your internal governor activating. Mine goes that with the screw backed all the way out
Can you reverse the original clutch and get a longer chain on these? Eliminating the double sprocket shaft and short chain and running directly to the clutch would be ideal.
It's possible - I might have to try it out
Have you had to take the torque converter off for any reason? If so, howd you do it with that press fit adapter? I installed mine same as you, but im curious how thats going to work getting it back off lol.
I have had it on and off a couple times. The adapter is more of a slip-fit. It's on firmly, and it's too hard to pull off with a bit of patience.
my mini is topping out at 38, but My other, Baja Warrior tops out at 56... with juggernaut driver, billet flywheel, billet rod, 265 proformance cam, 22 lb springs, bigger jets, straight pipe header, governor delete, oil sensor delete, stage two, with high flow air filter
Nice! That must be a bit of a thrill at those speeds! I'm not sure if I'm going to go that far with the engine mods 'cause I've got something else in mind
There is a huge following in different states, gotta find one near you, plus in arizona, we have about three to four dealers to get parts.
U need to switch to mikuni vm22, exhaust, heavier valve springs, and torque converter. Bye switching carbs and getting rid of all the stock linkage it disables the governor. My coleman 196 ct200 does almost 55mph with my 150lb buddy and about 44mph with my 220lb ass...lol gotta ditch the original carb. They r horrible EPA compliant trash. Get a round slide and get riddance all that linkage
Hey John, thanks for the feedback, and you read my mind! I have a video already (you might not have seen it yet) where I try out a VM22 clone and it's much better! I also have 26lb springs ready to go and have done the torque converter already (also in another video). I've got a 20 thou over stock billet crank and a high compression piston I'll be testing out as well as a 10k rpm flywheel to go on. Those will be upcoming videos soon!
You'd be surprised just how powerful you can make a 196cc if you do enough mods to it. I never made that transition to a 212. I just upgraded every single part in the 196cc until i was able to hit 50 + and get to that top speed really quick. But yeah I don't even wanna know by now just how much money I've spend getting to this point. Alot more than I paid for the bike I'm sure lol. The only things that are original on it is the frame and the rims. 😮
I'm afraid to add up how much I've spent on it so far :-D
Sometimes I think "I coulda just bought a small dirt bike" but doing this is way too much fun
@@wetcoastfab I've thought the same exact thing to myself. If I added up how much I've spent on upgrades and mods I could have just bought a real Dirt Bike by now. But I'm impatient and suck at saving lol. Oh well. It is fun customizing these mini bikes. Mine looks like a mix half dirt ike half Harley. 🤷
The only bad part about swapping one of these torque converters onto a Predator is you have to buy all new bolts to mount it. A stock 196cc engine uses 8mm bolts and a Predator is 5/16x24.
Great info, thanks Steven!
The $1.50 is worth it 😊
Do the zip tie Governor bypass it works good the only thing that would be a change would be to eliminate the governor but I've done the zip tie and my ct200uex is a screamer by doing that and I love it
There was a welded throttle stop on this bike's carb linkage, so messing with the governor really didn't get me much more speed
That thing sounds like a big rod knock.😊
They're not the quietest nor smoothest running engines, are they?
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Thanks so much!
@@wetcoastfab , my pleasure :)
my bolt broke had to drill it out have a thick boi in there now and it bulletproof now
My little home version 110 volt welder works so awesome, So why why why, do all the Coleman BT200 bikes have such Horid welds, Why? looks like the welding was done by 3yr olds
Right? I looked at the welds on the frame and shook my head. I'm no professional welder, but have done enough of it to know that they do look like 3 year olds did them
The real issue here is that throttle stop plate that’s welded. Grind that weld out and remove the screw. Then you got 30mph plus
Yup! I did that and it made little difference. Thanks for the feedback!
What torque converter kit did you go with.
I went with the Vevor one from Amazon: amzn.to/3nczKqo
Pretty happy with it but I think I'll be messing around with the springs to change when the primary pulley 'comes on'
Did the kit come with the shaft adaptor ?
No, unfortunately. That was something extra I had to source.
I think ull do beter with a 212 prediter my buddy removed his gov and added a high proformance carb from his 212 hes geting up to 57 vs ur 19 t0 22 speed liimit
Picking up a Predator 212cc next week! Look for a video soon where I test it out
U need to adjust the governor spring. It's dangerous to remove governor with out replacing the flywheel.
Thanks for the info! I may put a billet flywheel into the engine, if it's upwardly compatible with a 212cc engine. I need to research that
Where can I find that key and adapter to make the shaft bigger??
Search on Amazon for 5/8 to 3/4 shaft adapter. I think I also left a link in the description to the one I bought.
Maybe softer clutch spring get full actuation of the cvt pulleys.
Maybe! I'll put it on the list of things to try and record!
Dog shaft lol... I'm calling it that from here on out!
Constantly variable transmission.
Were you not trying to get more power?
It's a possibility that the overall gearing ratio is too high and the torque converter will never make it run as fast as its highest speed would be with the little power you have.
I think you should try to reduce the chain gear ratio as much as possible.
Thanks for the feedback! I was thinking along the same lines. I don't think the engine can get to full torque before the gear ratio starts bogging it down. I'm going to mess with different ratios soon.
I know this video old but my predator 212 leaking oil under the gas tank the governor is removed it started after that do you have an explanation it still rides just leaks oil
Hey Solo! When the governor was removed, was the hole the governor shaft goes through properly plugged? These engines use splash lubrication for oiling and not a pump so oil is literally sprayed everywhere in the crank case and will find the tiniest hole to leak out of.
@@wetcoastfab you asking was the hole covered if so I think not and is it gonna turn out to be something bad ?
Yeah! I don't think anything will be bad as long as you stay on top of your oil level and not let it get too low (other than the oily mess, that is). These engines (the HiSun and Predators) have low-oil shut off so you may find if the oil gets low, and you end up on a hill, the engine will cut out because the oil is moving around in the crank case.
@@wetcoastfab alright appreciate the knowledge. but it isn’t anything i can put there to stop it from the leak ?
There's a few things you could do but it depends on your skill level:
- remove the gas tank and anything else that might be in the way is going to be the first step
- a basic fix would be a simple silicone plug - clean the area and the hole and put some RTV silicone in it and a bit around the outside of the crank case. This might not work depending if you've got a lot of blow-by pressure in the engine (due to wear) and the plug might just blow out
- a slightly better approach is the same but drill and tap two small holes and make a small steel plate that will also cover the silicone plug. That will prevent it from blowing out. If you don't want to drill and tap holes in the crankcase, there's probably already a threaded boss you could make a longer steel patch that could anchor to and cover the hole. Might take a bit of CAD (cardboard aided design) patterning to get it right
- you could drill and tap the governor shaft hole itself, put sealant on a bolt and just thread it in the hole. That's a pretty permanent change (you wouldn't be able to put your governor back in again) and you run the risk of aluminum shavings getting inside the crankcase, so it would be best to take the side panel off the engine when doing this so you can clean out the crankcase after
You've given me a great idea for a new video on maybe testing out these above methods too; give me a week or two and I'll see if I can come up with something.
Two by fours are normally an inch and a half
Did you ever remove the governor?
Not yet, no. I am going to order a billet flywheel but I need to make sure the taper on the shaft will work on the 196cc engine first.
@@wetcoastfab Finding a cast aluminum or billet flywheel for a 196 is about as easy as it gets. They are everywhere.
govener ?? low speed down hill ??
I put a 30 series TC on my go kart with a 6.5 Briggs engine. I don't know the gear sizes but I was able to hit 27mph easily.
Nice! I'm really beginning to think something's not right with this 196cc engine.
@@wetcoastfab You could also check to see where the torsion spring is set to on the outside pulley of the torque converter.
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So basically once you start modifying there’s no end in sight lol
Exactly! 🤣
Harbor, freight, hemi, engine, three-quarter inch shaft stage two performance package torque converter now you get yourself a real bike
I agree with you, Kevin, but if I wanted to go that route, I'd get a Ghost ... I still might ;-)
1 inch riser, might just about clear, dam close. 🇨🇦
So so close! I think if I had to move the engine forward to get more life out of the chain, I'd be hooped!
@@wetcoastfab
I did see a fella install that engine raiser and moves it forward somewhat than there was enough room to mount cvt. Thanks for the video I mess around on my grandkids bikes.
Look forward to your next vid 👍🇨🇦
Thanks so much for the kind words! I can't stop messing with this thing, it's so fun!
ever ran a TC in my life sir looks knarley
Definitely a toe-cutter with out the case and proper care!
@@wetcoastfab that's a rush
@@Spacecruizer203 I can't wait to have this mini bike flying at 60mph with all those rotating parts built by the lowest bidder!
They make a engine riser for torque converters,
I know, it was just quicker for me to make a redneck one out of scrap square tubing
@@wetcoastfab right I weld so" yup" mac'giver. When you can save $$$ plus make things stronger than factory'
You need to do a governor delete so you can rev higher
Thinking of doing that in the next couple days! I've got something else up my sleeve to go hand-in-hand with it too
You won't have much use for that jet you ordered. Untill you get rid of that Non adjustable coleman carb thats come stock on that bike. Reaserch is Boss.
So true! In a later video I replaced the Coleman carb with a VM22 clone and got another 11 mph out of the bike
I don’t know why they just don’t put torque converters on everything they’re super cheap and they give you gobs of torque
Right? They can't be that much more money in bulk over a centrifugal clutch and are so much more tunable!
If you plan to spin a Predator 212 over 6000 RPMs, put a stage 1 kit on it, remove the governor and put 18# springs on it. I personally like the Ducar 212 much better. The Ducar, 212 is like the Ghost, but has a much better flywheel and is much cheaper than the Ghost. In fact, the Predator 224 and the Ghost, use Ducar 212 blocks. They are reinforced to handle more stress.
Nice Randar76! I'll look into the Ducar, thanks!
WA always called them a "rup clutch". ....first seen on a rupp..
Cool! I had no idea!
I noticed your back tire was super low. I believe 30lbs is the max too the back tire. @19:34 you see the low tire
Thanks for the feedback! The tires on this one say 10lbs max so with that low pressure and my fat a$$, it's gonna look low :-D
@@wetcoastfab damn that’s crazy cause mine says 30lbs. Are those stock tires? An you don’t look much bigger than me boss.
@@wetcoastfab maybe cause it’s the bt200 and that might have diff tires than the ct200u ex
I’m not sure what you’re doing wrong because I got 47 mph out of my stock motor. I went with the ghost and tq converter set up with a 38t rear sprocket and I got 61.7 mph. You must be doing everything wrong or have no clue how to set your torsion springs in your secondary. SMH.
Thanks for the feedback, Larry! Got any tips or instructions on setting the torsion springs? I'd hate to think my channel is giving you a concussion ;-)
The torque converter works great on my bt200x im not having any issues besides throttle issues but on the other hand it works great so i don’t know what ur talking about
That's great it works for you, Matthew! Got any tips or tricks as to why it might be failing on my end?
Do u got enough washers on the shaft to match the belt
Plus i had to cut the guard a bit for the chain not to rub i havent messed with my rpm just the throttle wire
There was only the one washer that came with the kit
@@wetcoastfab yes mine did come with one i had to add like 4 to make the belt stright with the back pully so i didnt ware the belt out so much
Boy, this is why you need a mini lathe 😂
Yup! I do have a Southbend 9K from the 1930's but it has a stripped split nut that I need to fix. Which I need to do for my next BT200X video ... it never ends!
You could have just taken the jackshaft off without disassembling it.
Get rid of that weak 196 and use a Juggernaut clutch and you don't need a CVT. BELTS SUCK!
Where do you buy a Juggernaut clutch? Never heard of it. There is a Juggernaut driver that is used on 30 series torque converters. (CVT's)
@@Deucealive75 Go Power sports carries it. A driver is the same as a clutch
5/8s shaft!
You need a Mega Motor 212 bike! they are the bomb!
Get the riser
Nothing fit for this man right off the bat lol. I have the same luck
Right? Nothing's good enough and we just got to tinker! Thanks for the comment!
You got everything you could monkey rigged😮, and now you wonder why it's slow
😊🤯🙊
I'm sure it's just my fat butt and 10psi tires. I've got some more tuning in mind.
Изобретаем по новому колесо 🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣 Так веселее!
@@wetcoastfab сколько можно,одно и тоже
@@wetcoastfab я уже скоро выйду на реактивный
You’ll gain roughly 5 mph by removing the throttle stop screw
I did do that, but it was a pain in the butt! It was actually spot-welded to the linkage to prevent that!
@@wetcoastfab Yeah, I used a dremel to cut as close to the bracket I could and it worked like a charm !
Testing purposes only
More testing! So much fun
Get a tillitson.
Change for 212cc for tc. 196cc suck for tc …
Yup! I'm slowly figuring that out, Philippe!
Buy a slide carb
Thanks! I've got one (a VM22 clone) and did install it in a video you may not have seen yet. Definitely improved the performance and much more tuneable.
All the small Honda knock offs are made in the same factory in China and everybody puts their own paint on theres
get a smaller sprocket!
It'd be good for hill climbing but ... speed!
Skip the pain. Put on a HF 224. Your original engine is poor quality and known to break crankshafts. You”ll protect your sanity and wallet
I've got a HF 212 to test out as well as a maybe 420cc ... stay tuned!
I'll tell you what, cut back.
The longer i watch the worst it gets
196 leaking oil. Your engine has aids. Big time.