The Seiko Monster is overrated. Watch this before you buy | Seiko SRPH75K1 Monster Save The Ocean
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The Seiko SRPH75K1 - or the Antarctica Monster Save The Ocean - is overrated. It really is.
Yes, I know you're paying for the brand and the 'Save The Ocean' credentials and all the rest of it, but just how much is too much for ancillary, abstract concepts like those? Plus, the actual build quality of this watch left A LOT to be desired. It rattled like hell, has an abysmal clasp and the bracelet feels cheap. But that's all just my opinion, of course...
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its still a better looking watch , than any 480 pound watch i can find, and thats why i love it
A bit of a harsh review...even though I tend to agree (generally) with your points. Full discloser: I have three Seiko Monsters (including the model featured in this review) and I have two Heimdallr "monsters" as well (an orange dial and a really cool green dial). While it's true, spec-wise, these homage watches (fake-o's) are superior to the real deals (again, by specs) and the prices are WAY cheapter, I must confess that the sum of the parts doesn't necessarily trump the whole, if that makes sense. In other words, I'd rather have the real thing, short comings or not. The finishing on the real Seikos I've found to be superior and then there's the grating, nagging little voice that bugs my horological OCD: you're wearing a fake!
That's a really good point, mate - no doubt, there's a magic to certain brands and pieces, and that goes for this too. I think sometimes when you're trying to review stuff, it can be difficult not to let it boil down to hard facts, but then something will happen when those facts come into play. In this case, the Hardlex got scratched and I wasn't even sure how, and I think that's something that would really annoy me (and it did!). Seiko perhaps are riding the wave of goodwill because their watches have that certain magic that their history and designs hve afforded them, but that'll only go so far. If they could have better QC (alignment issues, etc) and ramp up specs the way they've ramped up prices, it'd be better for us all :)
I totally agree that hardlex at this price range is an outrageous decision. Seiko sure makes some weird decisions these days. It makes all these limited editions at ridiculous prices solely for boosting sales. Yes, FOMO is a thing. I salute you for giving your unpopular opinion but you made some excellent points
Great review, I have managed to find this watch on sale for £360 in the UK. Would you say this is worth the price instead of the RRP of £560? Thanks!
Thanks very much! I’d say at that price, it’s a much better proposition. Especially the dial. Honestly, the dial is stunning. The rest is standard Seiko fare, but at over £500, that’s not on. But £360 is a good price! 👍🏻Let me know if you decide to get it and what you think 😉
@@LumePip Thanks for the opinion, will let you know!
The review is spot on, I've often been tempted by a Samura but the ongoing qc issues and the price deter me. I have Citizens that have been half the price better qc and blow the Seikos literally out of the water. I'd like to buy a Seiko but I will not pay through the nose for sub standard procedure.
You can never go wrong with Citizen, and I have a vid that I have a speed problem on this Seiko in my account. (edit: already change the calibre, as it is till in the warranty time)
The only reason I bought this one is that it makes fine dress watch, but if I have to get through hard stuff, my Promaster Eco-Drive Chronograph is always the choice.
Little rough...
Never pay full price for Seiko.
Who buys a Monster and doesn't live in Thailand?
Well it’s a nice Opinion. And you are entitled to it
Heimdallr Sharkey Ocean Monster homage - got your sapphire crystal, all works, looks good AND has a Seiko movement, so Seiko must approve and for a fraction of the cost ;) . I bought the orange whilst wishing I'd bought the red 'cos that is just several levels bad-asserer!! - Do love the orange though 😍
The beauty of those, though, is that you could get the red AND the orange for likely less than one of the Seikos... 🤔😏
I have this watch and I love it. No regrets whatsoever.
I have not purchased a Seiko for years....Their lack of quality control is abysmal, and the prices, well....They have ideas WAY above their Horological station !!.......It,s the only watch brand where if you did decide to purchase, you have to contact the dealer first to make sure there are no issues with misalignment with the Bezel, Chapter Ring etc......Various Micro Brands supply pieces that knock Seiko out of the park for both QC and quality components.
I probably should've asked whether the bezel was aligned but luckily in this case it was...more or less! But the scratches on the Hardlex were all me - albeit you merely look at Hardlex funny and it'll scratch. Give me sapphire and charge me another £40 all day.
Do you have the same views on the baby tuna? Srph 77
I haven’t tried it out, mate, so couldn’t say either way. I hate Hardlex though and think Seiko massively overcharge for sapphire crystal- saying that, I do have a new Seiko that I’m really enjoying. They’re great watches but don’t offer the specs others do for the same price - a take as old as time. Nice finishing, great historical brand, but you’ve just got to pay a bit of a premium to match other brands that offer the same/better specs for less.
I find the same QC issues on my king turtle, with a little fiber and dust on the dial marker.
It’s a shame because Seiko’s dials are kind of unrivalled at the price! It’s what they do best IMHO, and one can forgive a lot if you look down and see a near-perfect dial
I have the first gen Black Monster. Still working. I bought it in like 2004. I think I paid about $250 for it. The watch is extremely robust. The bezel is like turning a Swiss safe. Best bezel I have ever felt, far better than much more expensive watches.
Excellent review Mr P....interesting, it's the one watch that I would seriously consider going to AliE for, Heimdallr or Seestern are making this the way it should be (all spec shortfalls addressed and the same movement), for a fraction of the price...it's hard to reconcile
Thanks, Stuart! OMG, Seestern are absolutely amazing for the price. I'm unapologetically a big Seestern fan. I think I'll have another one in for review soon, too. I haven't tried Heimdallr (the lack of a vowel in the suffix of the name is perturbing... 😅) but will have to get one in for review. Maybe that NTTD homage in titanium. I think a lot of other buyers have already cottoned on, hence the blow up in channels covering Ali watches over the last couple of years.
Lovely work as usual :)
i like this model
🎵The design is iconic, the QC demonic, and these Seiko issues are quick turning chronic🎵
You review the watch like you expect a rolex, not a 450£ watch
Have you seen any other watches that cost £450? Expecting sapphire crystal isn’t expecting a Rolex.
Seiko is a bit like Star Wars, the new stuff all sucks.
🤣 I've got some pretty solid Seiko lately, though! I don't think the same could be said about Star Wars.
Its worth every penny.
Tremendous watch. But you are lying to yourself if you don’t think these are overpriced..
@rightthroughthecounterstri3961 for me it's fine. I collect Seiko only without regrets.
Just the dial, the case and the indices makes me feel like getting it despite the shortocmings. This will also be my first expensive watch, I know 500$ is not much for most of you all, but for me its an huge amount for money for a watch.
There is more of us poors than you think.
whats the shortcomings?
That watch really looks cool in your wrist. You dont like it but it certainly likes you.
Heimdallr monster - better quality, 5 times cheaper. End.
I'm aware of the shortcomings of a Seiko at this price range these days, but I still like the Monster design and I'll buy this for the awesome dial.
The Monster is not my type but I do like their Samurai,Turtle/Tortoise and Alpinist line. And they do make beautiful dials. I guess the motto of Seiko is there is a watch for everybody (by churning up all different designs at different price points). I used to be a Seiko snob and my collections were all Swiss brands from entry level to high end. Now I realized I am missing out a lot by ignoring Seiko. There will never be a perfect watch even at the Swiss brand higher price point. It's a matter of what you're willing to compromise. I have noticed that people are more critical of Seiko's fault but are forgiving of more expensive Swiss brands fault. Just look at the rehaut of my Rolex and see if it's off by a mm. In the logic of the people complaining with Seiko having misaligned bezel, at the price point of Rolex the rehaut should be 100% aligned. But in reality, only WIS people can notice that when inspected closely. But practically nobody will do that when it's on another person's wrist.
@@cedricduyongco I agree with your points. For that matter, WIS people are complaining about imperfections on AliExpress watches (homages) that cost from USD 60 - 250; which are otherwise incredible value for the money. Of course these are usually homages, but with outstanding specifications and finishing, considering the low prices..
I watched this video and still brought this watch 😂😂 I love it.
@Mtown Bound I tried the penguin feet one on, it was lovely. The subtle changes of the dial colour in different light swayed me in to getting the dark penguin though.
@Mtown Bound exactly that.
I really don't understand the negativity and the hate for Seiko...I just bought this watch from an AD for 20% discount from retail price, IMO it's great: case finish is top notch at this price point, accuracy is about 6 seconds per day. On my own alignment is good, I thought the cyclop iwas off but after staring very carefully I noticed it was an optical illusion. Bezel action is also very good and just after checking the alignment for a while I noticed the paint used for the engraved numbers of the bezel is indeed dark blue matching the dial. Yes there is some play in the endlinks, but underneath them my case was polished well. My main complaint is the clasp that IMO is too wide for the watch, I understand previous generations had a slimmer one but complainers complained it looked weird. I also noticed that the notches of the case aligned with the ones on the bezel but the latter should have been a tad wider in order to match their counterpats but here I'm nitipicking. Overall I would recommend this diver to people that are more interested in substance (ISO 6425 tested) than form (0.5mm play in the endlinks). Oh, hardlex is IMO better than the cheap and hazy sapphire you find on the knockoff brands at the same price point, even if it made more sense with the original design without lens because the bezel protected the recessed crystal...I am thinking about removing it to be honest. P.S. It's sad to see this channel recommends to go with AliE because they have a blue tinted sapphire, in the 70s an advertisement stated "just fake people buy fake watches".
I totally respect your position and am glad you've had a great experience with your Seikos. But I have to say, the sapphire crystals on watches I've experienced and reviewed at £480 (the current RRP of this watch) are not hazy or cheap looking. Likewise, most people paying £480 for a diver likely aren't using it for diving, and if they were, the poor diver's extension would be a disappointment for them. I think a lot of people - and admittedly this is based purely off anecdotal feedback and my own inclinations - would go for a combination of specs AND design/brand heritage at this sort of price point. There are better offerings from Seiko at this price, or just above this price. And let me add I absolutely don't condone fake watches. You imply I do - that's wrong. The Heimdallr homage that many argue is better than the real Monster (but I can't say as I haven't handled it) is not a fake.
It’s because people like him would rather buy microbrands copying big manufactures and producing value homages with nh35, sw200 and sapphire crystals 😂 I’d rather not have sapphire crystal and have an original design than having a homage of a huge brand.
Buddy, you complain too much.
Take it easy, otherwise you gonna get older faster.
Compare the NEWER MONSTER to the OLDER SKX779
The Original MONSTER STILL outshines anything today
I like it, you apparently don't. Inflation and the improved hacking movement over the 7S26 hasn't increased the price at all once you consider inflation. FWIW these can be purchased all day long for under $400, which is actually less than I paid for my Monsters in 2001.
Wow I do like the styling of the Monster, but I have to agree with you that in this price range you have a sapphire crystal. Dust inside the case of a 500-dollar watch is unacceptable. And I don't like the idea of all the crap collecting around the bezel. I think they made a decision at the top to pocket the money they save by giving their customer less quality hence no sapphire in many of their mid-price so-called better-quality watches. That said most of my Seiko's are still looking great even with Hardlex Crystal, Mineral instead of sapphire. There are always pro's and con's, I like Seiko and I do wish they would start using Sapphire in more of their mid-range choices. Orient Triton has sapphire Crystal and they do it at a price point below 300 dollars and great accuracy, the but on the Triton though is I am sure it is no ISO certified for diving and that does cost! And hey I am no professional, but I do like my watches and I have them ranging from an Omega Planet Ocean to an Invicta Pro diver, everyone needs a beater watch. LOL!
Huh. I really love my Monster. Although I'd have preferred flat Sapphire with no magnifier, that's for sure.
I think some of the other models might have a better price-value ratio - but honestly, mate, not in this case! A lot of people also recommending it once modded... I think with Sapphire and maybe without the magnifier it could be a better watch, but I also don't think this should be a prerequisite to buying a watch! 😅
@@LumePip For me personally price to value rations don't factor in a whole lot. An emotional connection makes a bigger difference. I have Aliexpress watches that cost way less and have sapphire and enjoy them less.
@@halfpastblog that's weird, I have AliExpress watches that cost way less, and I love them more.
Partly because they cost less.
Because I'm not a mug who flings his money around on pointless brand cache
It's not overrated
I agree about the hardlex . For a watch of the same price, other brands (like Tissot or Hamilton for example) offer sapphire.
but you will get only quartz versions with those brands. so, for me, movement is more important than the glass
I went for the King Samurai STO with sapphire AND ceramic bezel. Got it for £470. Love this watch tho and may look for one to go with the sammy in my collection! Seiko just do great designs, putting out far more choice than pretty much any other brand! Just make sure you buy online with a free return period so you can scrutinise the watch to ensure no QC issues!
My wife bought me one for my 50th birthday. It was my fault, I asked for it.
After a year...disappointed. Power reserve shit. Got a Longines Hydroconquest instead. Far better...
Hey so I like the look of this watch and found one at around $300. Anyone recommend getting it at that price despite some of the critics?
I would be the most hardcore Seiko fanboy but I cannot lie, I cannot deceive myself. They are basically rip-off artists at this point and the sad thing is that they do not need to be. They have the history, the brand recognition. People would pay! I would happily shell out 500-700 for one of their divers which are, in reality, mass produced but the last time I did (a samurai save the ocean) it was so misaligned that I could not unsee it and it ruined the watch for me (it sits in the drawer until I buy the tools to correct it myself). If they sold watches with better crystals and with the alignment even a sub-100 Casio can achieve they'd get my money. It's sad. Like a friend ruining themselves with heroin.
Completely agree. Bought it and returned it immediately. Bought a Heimdallr frost monster instead. $170 and you get a better (milled) clasp and better (sapphire) glass.
This watch is in Prospex price country so indeed it doesn't make sense or value ! Better to buy that or buy a SKX779 which officially limited to orange or black at around £300 is better value for money. Cheaper still if you get with the rubber dive strap
Whilst some of your gripes are legitimate. If you are buying a new watch and there is dust or dirt on the dial or other QC issues,, just send it back get it replaced or full refund. As for Seiko's pricing model who ever pays full price? It's clear they over price and then half the price come sale time. That is the true value. Never pay RRP on a Seiko! Finally the monster looks best on the rubber dive strap IMO, I would not be bothering with the shanky bracelet on an entry level diver.
it's a very robust and nice watch. Wonderful dial. Good quality/price ratio!
Seiko nowdays is an JOKE! After skx flipoff to seiko5 and flipping the prices incredibly high this brand is LUDACRIS!
I love the that the stainless steel case is back! and they even improved the bracelet with a nice fit with the case and a wider clasp. now they price have come down to below ~$380 it's a much better deal
Totally disagree with you. Bought mine new 22 years ago,never skipped a beat and never been serviced and I always liked the classic look. Paid $240 but would probably buy a knock now from China. I think you should research your watch purchases better next time. Your channel your cry.
Frustrating how you need to hit the £650 mark before Seiko will provide sapphire crystals. Orient really show them up in this respect.
I'm partial to seiko 7S26-0020 models... I had 2 batman split blue/black dials that I sold and regret
After over 500 or so dive watches this baby is da bomb ! Love mine
The 4th gen monster design is brilliant in all it's forms. Cry more for a relatively cheap watch. Mordern Seiko is not for you.
Seiko makes their watches the same way as the Chinese make watches. The difference is, a Chinese worker working for a Japanese company is less eager to make a precise product, because he hates the Japanese owners. Chinese workers work harder for Chinese firms, more accurate and are more proud of the end product. That´s my take on it. Stop buying crappy Seiko´s and demand better QC from Seiko. If you keep on buying badly aligned dials, Hardlex instead of Sapphire, pressed clasps instead of milled, than Seiko won´t stop producing these substandard watches. Go San Martin or Cronos all day, or even Pagani Design or Heimdahler. These Chinese brands are superior to Seiko and half the price or even 25% of the price of a Seiko.
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Wow, that's a really interesting take, Rene. I genuinely hadn't thought of that before. Totally agree on demanding better QC from Seiko, and the Cronos/San Martin watches I've handled have all been far superior to the Seikos I've paid a lot more for, but I wouldn't go as far down as Pagani 😅 But it's a good point nonetheless!
Ma786sai dua After seeing their absolutely handsome, robust 3rd Generation Jade SZSC005 I pulled the trigger happily after finding a 2019 Jade for 1300 US dollars. A Blue coral reef Monster SBDC067 was next. Just one look at both these 3rd Gens and my mind was made happily made up. The blue cost me lots 1400 US dollars with papers and box but it was well worth it. And next will be a navy blue dialled Gen-3 SZSC003. I agree with you the 4th Gen just don’t do it for me in any way.
I got a Monster...the original orange moster for $200 approx. It was quite a fair price. $500? 🙄. With that being said, I got a Prospex Samurai Dark Manta for less than $500. Sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel..simply beautiful. I think it is a lot of watch for $.
I used to have that very watch. Paired with the Strapcode Hexad bracelet it's absolutely fantastic. It was slightly misaligned, though...
@@LumePip Yes. Mine has a small misalignment as well.
Nice I managed to snag king samurai padi edition at Macy’s one day sale 327 otd
Couldn't agree with you more. They are driving people down the road of getting the exact same looking looking watch with twice/3 times the specs for less than half the price. And better quality control.
Wake up seiko, cuz ur getting laughed at.!
If you buy the Seiko, only what you pay for is a different case design. Movement is mostly the same with some examples but is still same. So if you like Monster design, is only someone choice. I got Monster, Samurai, Presage, and 5. Every one is different and I like it, someone else doesn't need like it. if you don't like this type of crystal, is easy to replace with Sapphire - flat or not. Can't see the sense of this video.
Get a Islander Monster. Islander builds a better Seiko than Seiko...
Get a Islander Monster. Islander builds a better Seiko than Seiko...
9:01 Whoa whoa whoaaa.....I think you're making a bit of an understatement there.
Seems good for 200$ . I bought mine without box together with sumo hulk sumo. Paid 400$ equivalent for both but they did not come with a box. I know it is real seiko as I have the real sumo hulk to compare. Besides the cyclops and without box, I like em. Wearing it today just got them few hours ago😂 with stickers and all from a very unhappy wife. Great size. Great color and my first special edition. Happy feet monster penguin doesnt sound correct but they look really cool as antarctica. Same size with my kamasu but with same dial with my king samurai and bezel action is seiko as it is quite not perfectly aligned but better clicks than my sumo hulk. Lumes is same as seiko samurai. Its my most loved piece so far. I will be checking if an SKX 007 will give same feeling of satisfaction after I will get it few days from now. But this one is cooler than what I currently have. I just ordered a SD1970 Captain Willard on the 11-11 sale and was thinking this black friday to get the heimdallr with the same dial and saw someone selling this. What a bargain . Better than buying something homagjng it. Perfect size for my wrist so far.
the heimdallr monster is everything that the pos mediocre seiko monster should have been!!!!
Prices will continue to rise and have poor QC as long as they have little competition. I buy maybe one Seiko in a year now. I find Seiko homages from the far east to be be better value with better finish and materials plus Seiko movements at 1/4 the price or less. I like an honest review like this.
No matter how much seiko rise they are not as expensive as the overprice "swiss" watches that burnt our pocket 😂😂
Having wasted the time I did watching this and commenting, I can’t imagine your regret at wasting the time to produce it.
This is the closest thing to looking like a Stargate. I want it😅
Why does the date window has a huge lense please dont copy rolex
What’s worse is my spb143 $1899 aud watch has the same diver’s extension. I wish I knew how to remove it.
I have never been a fan of the monster and for some people it is a musthave in the collection, a classic. I think for that price there a better offerings on the market nowadays. Also not a fan of these 'limited editions' Seiko thing.
I sold my monster and am now rocking a heimdallr homage/copy and the build quality is miles better.
Thanks for the video…I’ve been considering this for a while as I’ve not experienced a monster and as you say that disk is sublime. You’re right for the best part of £500 the specs and build quality just aren’t good enough. I recently purchased as C Ward Trident pro 300 for £750 (with a coupon) and for what you get for the extra £250 is staggering. The quality equals that of my BB58 navy. Sorry…rant over!!
No worries, Noel. I think you've nailed it there - brands like Christopher Ward, Nodus, Tissot, Steinhart, Squale etc are way better value propositions. I love the Trident Pro (and miss my old white model, as well as my Tide LE) - great watch with sublime finishing, as you rightly point out!
@@LumePip p
I own the JDM model SBDY115 and the previous Save the Ocean Antarctica Monster SBDY105 as well. This is the first negative review I’ve seen on this watch . I don’t have any of the issues you have with yours on either of mine and I’d say these are actually excellent Seiko divers . I’ve even thought of adding the Padi edition of the fourth generation monster as well. The only point I agree with you on is that I do wish it had a sapphire crystal. Other than that my two Save the Ocean Antarctica Monster watches are amazing 🤩
I think if you've got one and haven't had the same issues as me, more power to you 🙌 Unfortunately, based on my experience, I just can't recommend it. A lot of people are saying I could upgrade the crystal, bracelet, clasp etc, but I think for the price, I shouldn't have to! Nevertheless, glad you like yours, Joseph 👍👍
Don't agree with you! Just another Wirral Seiko hater.
I’m a seiko collector and I’ve got quite a few divers, including a jade green monster which is pretty similar to this one. It’s probably the watch in my collection that I’ve got the most mixed feelings on, sometimes I love wearing it but it gets less time than any other seiko diver. I have to say I agree this bracelet is a bit of a waste of space, it just doesn’t match the case and dial. The diver extensions generally are just a load of nonsense for 99% of users, they just look like a cheap afterthought to tick a box. I’ve got mine on a strapcode superengineer, much more in line with the industrial case design I think. On a positive note it seems to have nearly doubled in value since I bought it….
I had a Strapcode Hexad bracelet on a Samurai I used to have and it really did lift the watch into a new tier entirely, so that is always an option. But it seems like a lot of these $500 Seikos now come with the understanding you might have to do upgrades on it for it to match other brands' watches in the same price category! 🙃
@@LumePip yes I’ve got a hexad on my Samurai, which looks great for about 340 all in as I got it used/barely worn. Got a super engineer on my monster.
I have the watch and I completely disagree with you. Not only is a great watch is also unique in design, original and most importantly part of the money goes into saving the ocean. So if for this price I should get a sapphire and I get hardlex, for me is fine with the thought that the rest of the money goes into a good cause. I want to see you so keen on what you get for your buck from a 15.000$ Rolex Sub vs this 500$. Or if you want absolute best back for the buck go get a Zelos. This watch is not for you because you clearly are missing the point of it. For me is the absolute best watch.
Bezel does not rotate.
I think people should buy a citizen promaster!!!!!!
I’ve had two and they’ve had the worst QC on any watches I’ve bought 🤷♂️
Funnily enough, I have a Citizen in the queue to review... 😬
It's a good watch but not a good watch for this money.
All reasonable points.
He’s right.
Honest review. Didn’t seem like a hater at all. Having said that, if I could downvote this video twice, I would.
😂I'm not a hater though - I think I've got like three other videos about Seiko watches I really like! It's subjective, obviously
Gorgeous Watch, i still love mine!
For less than $150, I feel like I stole it.
Don't rust the watch with your tears.
Yep! I absolutely agree... Just sold mine few days ago
I bought one exactly like that, but i like it, i love the all metal look,
It’s not for dainty wrists
The Seiko monster is the kind of beast that you love or hate.
Excuse me, but I must be frank: from your review you seem to belong to the second category.
Most of your points are pointless. For example mineral crystal has some advantage over sapphire, it's not always true that sapphire is the better option. The bracelet it's not the best but at this price point you can find something worse...and in any case you can just swap it with whatever you want.
So the real question is : why did you buy it?
Whether you love or hate it, you're right - if it's for you, great, but I think for the price there are better options, even from Seiko. I recently reviewed the SPB185J1 and thought it was superb. That can be had on the secondary market for a similar price to the Monster at retail. I appreciate the argument that mineral crystal is better in certain contexts - it's less likely to shatter than sapphire, for example, and that might be a factor depending on what you're using it for - but I think most people enjoy the benefits of a sapphire crystal because nobody wants a scratched watch. The beauty of Seiko, of course, is it can be modded quite easily! To answer the question of why I bought it, it's because I loved the dial. I'm also interested in watches generally and enjoy reviewing them, even if they're not to my tastes, and the Monster is a staple of the watch community - naturally, I stumped up some money and bought it so I could share my thoughts 👍
@@LumePip thanks for your kind reply.
I love the dial too...I have recently bought a first generation monster (a bit wilder look than this) and it is definitely one of a kind. I like especially the fact that it does not look like anything else, in a market (the diver 's watch market) where a lot of watches look more or less the same (i.e.: like the rolex submariner...)
LOve that watch!
I love mine. I dive so the hardlex makes sense. Beautiful watch but what I have issue with is the diver's extension. Has anyone figured out how to deploy it?
I’ve had the original orange monster for over a decade and not a single scratch on the crystal. Still one of my favourite watches in my collection. I didn’t pay anything like £500 for it though, probably half that.
Modern nice watch
Good vid, good humor, good review. Sub++
Lmao, no it isn't.
Pretty happy to have picked up this version of the Monster on sale brand new for $399 AUD - about 200 quid plus a few bob in loose change when converted to GBP.
It needs a 6R movement
If your winter coat/jacket has a metal button or snap on the sleeve, you will scratch the candy bar magnifier. I know from experience, that said my Gen 1 Monster looks great after all of these years. I can live with the bracelet clasp, bothers me not at all.
It's a tool watch that looks best with some battle scars...like a Lexus GX460...ya it's an upscale SUV, but it's meant to be seriously off-roaded. It's a Seiko, it's meant to be abused and keep on ticking for years and years, it's not an investment and I never expect to see my money back. Besides, I can't see the lint on the dial...I'm old.
I don't like the Monsters case design. Seiko makes too many models. Some are good some are bad. I guess by releasing many models they cater to different tastes of different people. I just started buying Seiko's as my collection used to be all Swiss Made watches. But Seiko has some compelling watch designs (Alpinist, King Samurai Manta Ray STO, Land Tortoise Dark Green Dial, to name a few). But for every good model that they make, they also release some models that are ugly. I guess you just have to choose the right one that calls out to you.
Love this watch
I totally agree. I have a 1st gen I paid $160 for. At these prices I don't believe they're worth it and their qc issues just scream laziness and arrogance. This has really shied me away from purchasing a Grand Seiko.
Seiko snk809 black field watch, sna411 flightmaster, and this because it's a diver and i love penguins. Thinking about a gmt
I love my Orange 2nd Gen, with its quirks. I bought it in 2014 for $175.00 (you’ll never see that again!) I also own Mark’s, Islander with the 1st Gen black dial & Sapphire crystal.
Seiko is so out of touch with what the customer wants.
Seiko sells boat-loads of watches and sells millions of generic movements to other brands.
No-name brands would be screwed without NH-35 movements or VK63, etc movements.
I think they are doing just fine as-is with or without comments on these videos.
I've owned many watches during my long lifetime including several Rolexes. The Seiko Save The Ocean Monster is the best watch I have ever owned.
Hi. Thank you very much for good review. I had new monster and I sold after one week. I agree 💯 it's not worth it. The watch feeling cheap and is uncomfortable on the arm because of the quality of bransolet. My advice don't buy it because not worth it! Stay safe.
I agree 100%
Thank you for pointing some important details. I hope Seiko Inc. see your indipendent review and likes of it and make their conclusions. I just changed my mind having that watch.