LIVE DUGOUT: Most populous country and just 6 medals in Paris Olympics- Is India a one-sport nation?
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It is simple.. Olympics medals tally is mostly a reflection of the socio economic status of the country. The top 10-15 countries are ALL developed nations with high GDP.
@@ANOOPBAL wow really shocked by ur knowledge man...looks like a student f that German Shepard.. but check ur knowledge on GDP of India nd where v stand in development...do u really knw history of Indian...nd sports alone is nt the yardstick for socioeconomic status f a country...
@@soniaaaaableever heard of gdp per capita dumb?
@@soniaaaaableIndia is ASS at sports. So unathletic and uncoordinated
India is vishwaguru
@@soniaaaaableTrue. The only thing Indians can feel proud about is it's history. And the countries with which you are comparing the GDP with, also check the employment rate & poverty rate of India compared to those countries. The only thing India can win gold medal in, is feeling proud with zero substance.
India can't even see China's taillights😂
Enough of overhyped unwanted unnecessary Cricket matches played throughout the year
First u watch other sport discussion also...then u comment
@@soniaaaaableHe just did that lmao 😂
Cricket is not the problem. Stop blaming cricket for everything.
You talk as if cricket is being funded by cutting the funding from other sports. It is not.
You are saying as if India winning 20+ medals at Olympics. Cricket is the only thing India is winning regularly
To be very honest,from the generation I belong to,India"s 6 medals seem decent 😅.When we were young,India used to manage 1-2 medals in Olympics max.Its the height of stupidity to compare ourselves with USA and China.We were never a sporty nation and roti-kapda-makaan is our utmost prerogative.And it still is.I dnt see the coming generation emerging as the wannabe Olympic medal winners.India is too worried with jobs, corruption and sabotage to even think clearly about sport.Thanks to BCCI and Cricket though😢
even north korea is better than IND so called democracy...6broze medals..and North korea.17 medals..5 gold 🥇
Why r u spreading face stats
Dpr hasnt won any gold check medal tally properly
How about Iran?
@@luchiNalo what it has got to do with democracy...ur comment just shows ur hate towards India.. vr a academic country...many countries which r top in Olympics can't compete with India in academics...so don't judge any country based on sports...that too only olympics....
@@soniaaaaablemost of the top universities in the world are in the US and they are good in sports.
@@soniaaaaable However, none of the top 200 universities in the world are Indian universities. Where does your academic country come from.
There is a significant difference in intellect of Nikhil and other guys sitting here, I would be interested in differences of their scholarship looks like others are just speaking english without the capacity to debate or understand scenarios.
If you are not an Engineer or Doctor in India and you are just a technician, not only your salary is low even your stature becomes low. I live abroad and I play badminton and my barber also comes and play badminton in the same club, can you imagine that happening in India? So I fully agree with Nikhil.
Bro this happens because rich people in our place thinks they are only kingmaker and they cannot bear poor next to them. I agree we need to improve on this and reduce gap between rich and poor
@@sg5555 we are judgmental society,we judge people by money that's the problem in our society.
@@shakyvlogger3848 true.
@@shakyvlogger3848 That is exactly my point, we have problem in our core, so there is no simple solution to win more medals. We need to change as a society first which is very difficult.
Watch Modi, Amit shah ,Piyush Goyal statements in the media.
Vishwa guru,
India is arrived,
whole world is looking at India,
whole world is surprised is how India is developing - Amit shah made this statement just yesterday.
you don't feel like you are living in an 2000 dollar per capita economy with 60% population living in poverty, malnutrition
only sport Indian can win medals without any competition i think,
corruption, self boasting(North Indians are whole different level in that regard), over proud
At last, nothing going to change
our Olympic participation size haven't grown from 85-120 for past 15-20 years
Lk
Stop nitpicking all your life and accept the truth that India has seen the khangressi ruining every growth of nation in those 60+ years. Every truthful Indian will simply accept this unadulterated truth, rest all denials are anti nationalists ✌️👍 🇮🇳
Indian athletes themselves disagree with you
Indian athletes giving credit to modi. Meanwhile, Converted third grade Cult followers hated him because media shows him ... these Converted cult followers peanut size brains can't comprehend the fact that every media follow their leader ...
India is vishwaguru only in social media & Indian media. That's it. The real world facts are different
Not to forget, Russia didn’t participate this olympics. It could have affected country wise medals tally as well.
yes we would've been affected in shooting & wrestling
I agreed we are improving that is good for us 4th place are not for celebrate but these shows our progress we are developing country be happy We will do better next time 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Bro I can take 4th place happily for the sports where we do not have infra like swimming, Gymnastics, diving etc but 4 place in shooting, badminton, wrestling, archery are not acceptable
@@JaiPrakash-gc6ji O brother come to reallity we have only 1 gymnast player who qualify 2 in swimming In 60 players how can you say she came 4 even qualification is a much difficult and in shooting, wrestling, badminton etc how many gold medal do you have so how can you expect only gold we are improving step by step bro realize it
Do you need infra in atheltics? Come on..dont be silly..come out of this mindset otherwise we will keep giving excuses for entire life
I am start liking this show more and more, civilised reasoning based talk and discussion and respectful of others opinion. Great show.
The best channel ... because they cover all sports ..... sports tak is not sports tak it is cricket Tak
Nikhil is very practical. Loved his analysis!
Population does not have a correlation with medals. It is dependent on how many of the population are trying to win a medal in the Olympics. For example, Jamaica has a very small population but have a culture of sprinting…so, more people there are making it their life’s mission to win a medal. That gets reflected in the medals tally. In India our traditional focus has been education…we are just beginning to focus on Olympic sports. I think we will see a steady improvement. Don’t expect miracles. Olympic medalists are created over a span of a generation…not in 4 years.
It's not just culture but genetics as well. Jamaicans and Kenyans are blessed with sprinting and marathon friendly bodies - I don't think we are winning track medals in global sprinting or marathon events. Neither do we have a college or school system that identifies and promotes sporting talent. We are $3k country where sports is managed by an administrative bureaucracy and is totally unaccountable. Country of $1.5b could only send 115 athletes? That too is sub par. Industrialized economies complete for every medal, and send 500 athletes.
From 7 to 10 medals is it a big ask
Check how many parents and education institutions are giving importance to sports
Quality matters and not Quantity
Nikhil is right. There is no sporting culture in India. Also due to this , there is lack of sports infrastructure in the country as well except for few sports like cricket, hockey, wrestling. India is vishwaguru only in social media & their day dreams.
Baatein zyada medals kam
Typical interview where the panelists do not discuss anything substantial. Disappointing. Some suggestions: 1. Discuss federations individually (which one is doing well, which is bad) - of course this will require doing some research but will allow you to discuss something of substance rather than this usual ranting, 2. Discuss and analyze the impact of Khelo India, TOPS, OGQ. As journalists, I hope you will at least know what these are. I don’t have high hopes😂. Just like pretty much everything in India, even journalism and genuine criticism is subpar and average.
in our country there is no talent scout for other than cricket
Nikhil was talking BS. I m pretty sure that the no of people appearing in an IAS exam every year is way more than the total non-cricketing athletes India has🤣 . It's funny and sad at the same time. 😑
yup even I feel he was being delusional
He was always talking about getting 6-7 medals in general terms and not talking on individual sport
we should've got a medal in badminton
sat-chi were ranked 2nd going into olympics and had amazing 2024
the way sen lost SF & bronze medal match
u cant say it was bad luck
Dont give 4th place as excuse😂 because we also got 5 bronze
What if they also ended in 4th
Those 5 were lucky to finish 3rd and not 4th
So luck has compensated
The diversity of options when you opt for academics (instead of sports) is higher. For e.g. You aspire to be IAS. Even if you don't get selected for IAS, you can use that skill to apply for state civil services. If you don't get selected for State Level Civil Services, you can still apply for other competitive exams like - railways, banking, postal, education etc. Even if you don't make it to any of the above "govt elite jobs", you can still make a decent living by joining private services like - a coaching centre, academy, private school teacher in a Tier 2 town, or at the worst you can offer tuition services to your local children in a small town or village and STILL MAKE A SURVIVABLE LIVING. The risk is less in academics, as they discussed.
Saaar we became soon 4th economy in the world and still we don’t have any toilet 28LA is going be 💯 percent India who be number one in the table 😅😊
Nobody can argue and win with Nikhil in sports!! He is terrific. 🥰
The Ministry of Sports need to really incentivize sports which have shown considerable strength over the years - shooting, boxing, weightlifting, badminton, hockey, table tennis, archery. I think a medal tally of 10-15 medals is definitely possible (a lot of 4th finishes was disappointing in Paris). Watched Sunil Chettri's recent podcast where he talks about some of the issues.
So, 1 medal for every 24 cr Indians show how poor Indian system and a big faliure of a self proclaimed vishwaguru! And even war torn Israel and Ukraine did better than India!!!!
I was hoping for a critical analysis of India at Olympics but Nikhil Naz crapped all over it by blaming our culture, society and everything else apart from the athletes... The worst part is that he said we should be happy with whatever we have won and not be aspirational. The rest of you should simply drop him
let me add insult to injury... china's first video game - worldwide hit and game of the year 2024!
black myth wukong!
Indian media all say "6 medals", I think it's a misguiding. I would have corrected them as "6 medals, but not a single gold".
Don’t rub it in. A medal is a medal. A medal is better than nothing
@@bial3436 don't fool yourself, 100 silvers or bronze but not a SINGLE gold you would be still right behind.
As long as we celebrates motherhood of athlete (Deepika Kumari) who only can produce some excuses year after year in Olympics or doing politics over failure of weight management by an individual athlete or glorifying sporting under achievement in the name of Nari Shakti emotions , shall we expect to b competitive sporting nation ... it's not abt medal only, we even not competitive .... our mindset is far far behind ... we are only ambitious for last 10 or 11 years where you should hv been nurturing generations for a least of 20 to 30 years
Every state should have sports policy
It’s simple, India is only 75 yrs old from Independence. We are still trying to get on our feet properly and start running and we are doing it pretty good in the last 20 yrs but we still don’t have the comfort of following our passion over a safer future. When we are developed to that level where we have the comfort to follow our passion then you’ll start seeing more medals coz sports is all abt passion and hard work not just buying a guide in book store and studying day& night for 6 months and passing the exam
In India we don't invest money in loss project that's the problem.we treat sports as business.foreign countries doesn't treat sports as business.Business is one goal to make money ...
Jamaica became independent much later. Ethiopia was occupied by Italy during the world war and had multiple famines since. Every country has had its problems.
@@kstiss Controversial opinion but just compare the strength, size and muscularity of the average Jamaican vs average Indian, there is just no comparison (I had a Jamaican colleague and he was ripped, I have till date not come across an indian like that yet have seen several similar black dudes). They have got the genetic advantage in athletics, and centuries of malnutrition and inbreeding due to the caste system is not doing us any favours. I live in the UK and the average black person (both men and women) just looks so much stronger even when they don't work out plus much taller too.
Does not matter. India is forever No.1 in the universe. If India is not No. 1, that thing is not important 😂
The Indian Goverment is training the Siddi's on athletics in Karnataka. The Siddi's are Africans who came to India about 400 years ago. The other African's in India are the Jarawa tribe and the deep jungles of Sri Lanka, Kerala, Tamil Nadu and Orissa. The tribals in India are the closes relatives of Usain Bolt who was originally from west Africa.
The first humans, the homo sapians are originally from west Africa, the DNA called the y-chromosome Adam or the mt-DNA and are the closest relatives of Usain Bolt, from Jamaica.
The Siddi's from India, the Nigerians who invested 9 billion dollars on Athletics, Guyana and Trinidad with the same DNA did not get the results as compared to Jamaica and the Afro Americans
Both the population and the people combined with the goverment have to work together
but it will take decades for the Aquatics and cycling programs because the general populations cannot afford or access the facilities and equipment as compared to the way the IPL was able to
All sports must be supported, just like cricket, so that India becomes good in maximum sports 🇮🇳
All school level early age talents must be supported and encouraged by giving them rewards scholarships and incentives to inspire them to perform even better under best training coaching & guidance. Investing only in best athletes of elder ages will never create a larger pool of talented players in every sport 🇮🇳
Jab grassroot level se talent nurture aur enhance karna possible hoga, just like China USA etc., tab hee, we can expect more medals from better pool of competitive players, because only handful of top quality players cannot win medals at Olympics level 🙄🙄🙁☹️ 🇮🇳
JAI HIND 🇮🇳
Haters only will hate others 👇😌
Our problem is :
We EXPECT improvements WITHOUT ENCOURAGING INVESTMENT, like in hockey badminton wrestling tabletennis tennis boxing and more ☹️😊
Until there's solid coaching training and competitive exposure to all athletes, they won't improve, just like our struggle to face seam swing in cricket ☹️☺️
So, the only way, is to back the budding youngsters in every sport of their interest, and give them the much needed exposure everytime since early age, just like China USA etc. 😊 🇮🇳
One of the guys was saying that India is democracy unlike China, that's the reason why India can't create and invest more in early age sports... 🙄
What nonsense this 🙄🙄
Whatever the social political ideology, encouraging investment in early age sports for every child is absolutely essential for developing young talents on broader scale, in order to develop better competitive pool of players, and not just handful of players, who can be capable of achieving better success at Olympics level 💖 🇮🇳
We perform really well in special olympics but you people dont cover it
Nikhil’s analysis was really good. But also Nikhil should have allowed others opportunity to speak. In many instances he was speaking over others. Anyway, good discussion.
I would say this channel is way luch better than Sports Tak where all those barking dogs bark continuously doing irrelevant discussion except Vikrant
Realistically we should be aiming Top position in comm. Games Top 2 in Asian Games & top 3 in Olympics...
Then Host the Olympics..
So host in 2056
Most Populous Country in the World & only 6 Medals 🥉, it's really pathetic situation. We gotta hit the panic button NOW. I agree with Nikhil Naz there's no process to streamline or pick or identify or manage serious sports Talent in India.
O man from where you have hailed what you are expecting 10 gold or what progress goes gradually not in one night or in 4-5 year it takes time 10 year back we had how many gold competitors today we have 3 - 4 gold competitors not won that is another matter hard luck this time but we Wil compete better next time
Bro vr a academic nation as always...hw can u expect grt heights so fast...it vll take time for us to b a sports nation...have patience man...
Times to look think beyond overhyped Cricket
Encourage all sports, just like cricket 🇮🇳
@@SingWithAnandKishore ppl dont watch, so there is no revenue in most sports.
This shashwath keeps on jumping the fence in his opinion all thru the discussion...
India not deserve go to olympic only ias ips olympics even we not well in maths physics olympiad .Govt job comptetition
Indians should check the history of all countries, about their Olympics performance when their GDP are in world top 10
As top 5 economy country, it is total failure if Olympics medal cannot be in top 10.
29:57 nikhil bro chill😂
Nikhil is dictator sometime not always 😂
Good points, Nikhil
Sports is just a leisure activity in India, we win some medals because of some individual brilliance otherwise our culture is not favorable for professional sports. Who in India will allow their children to take up sports full-time and ignore studies. Wholesome culture needs to change.
And lost another 6 medals csuse a wrestler went into a " Protest Nakara' for over a year ,
As fir Paris itself ,--- exgately,
on no ... we would have won 4 more Gold medals if these 4 lazy bums would have got up and participated in Paris 2024 ............ such a big chance missed 😜😜😜😜
Others need to up their intellectual level to meet that of Nikhil Naz
Seems like he was just talking over everyone, another self-appointed genius 😂
Nothing will happen that's why focus on cricket 😂😂
Obviously every Olympic host city will clean up all crime during the games. Why would they let petty criminals on the streets during the games? You must travel back again in few years and see the reality.
This makes me question, when we don't have an ecosystem in the country to nurture these sports i.e the financial returns for investors are just not there in sports like javelin etc as opposed to cricket which is very profitable, why are we trying to win medals against countries where the fabric of their economics is completely different - high income countries where people play sport for leisure and can have a good job after their playing days are over, why are we trying to compete with them when our per capita income is so low, where 50% of the people suffer from malnutrition, where there is no proper sanitation for a significant proportion of the rural population, doing well in the Olympics is a byproduct of improving all these things, if we as a country really become passionate about uplifting everybody and not just the Ambanis and Adanis, then within 50 years the Olympic story can change drastically.
We Should NOT reward Mediocrity
British are very very clever people,they introduce cricket to destroy indian sporting culture....now indian can't live without cricket..
where is the yellow puppy?
Ban cricket in India ...marks my word india will be in the top 10 in the upcoming Olympia .... children will take other sports seriously ....
We should implement Reservations in Olympic selection process.. Babasahe lb Ambedkar gave us The Secret of Success called Reservation.. It a shame that government is not implementing it in Sports... Namo Buddhay jai bhim
What a stupid discussion. Stop shouting and have a discussion like sane people.
AdvRahul mehra ko bulana tha inki sabki bolti band ho jati
They mentioned kishore jena as Kishore jain. Do a fact check guys pl
China went 32 without appearing in the Olympics. They made their return in 1984 and won 15 gold medals. India is lightyears from competing with top tiers and maybe should focus on beating Ethiopia or Uzbekistan 😂. Your claim to fame is Criket, which is played by 5 other poor countries and Australia. Nothing more than a colonial game, but where is your football, volleyball, tennis, basketball teams at? No wonder the British sailed on you with 5 ships and immediately dominated. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Growing up for me meant I could do my studies, hang with friends and I joined several sports teams with my school. It's not rocket science.
Nikhil is talking BS
Sports movie like Chandu champion and Maidaan flopped but movie like Bad News and Crew superhit.
And people wants more medals in Olympic...
Dangal hit more in China because people valu sports..
Some responsibility people should have too.
Many of the athletes must also be watching bad newz. Kaun jaake chandu champion dekhega yaar
What's china's modus operandi
V r a academic nation...it vll take time for us to b a sports nation..
Just have patience...
I don’t it’s going to ever happen
@@akshayganesh4144 ur such a negative person...have some positive in ur life man...v were 1 medal contenders few yrs bk but nw vr getting 6 r 7 medals ...so have patience...
@@soniaaaaable
Exactly.
Shift in mindset takes a generation of time, and it'll surely happen with younger generations now, because maximum buddhey panoti parents always forced children against their natural interests 🇮🇳
@@SingWithAnandKishore bhai there is nothing wrng in parents wanting their children to excel in academics...bcoz f which vr vry gud at academics wen compared to other countries...sports is nt a yardstick to measure the prosperity f the countries...there r many things to consider...
Tum khud puri sal cricket cricket karte rahte ho or jab bhi Olympic aata hai aa jate ho gayan jadne 😂
Agar channel mai sports likha hai toh sabhi sports ko cover kiya karo varna esko hata kar cricket kar Lo 🤡
Stop your obsession with cricket 💩
Stop this we need cricket dugout
All sports must be supported, just like cricket, so that India becomes good in maximum sports 🇮🇳
@@SingWithAnandKishore but we need cricket dugout ,fans of other sports take care of it
@@SingWithAnandKishore no chance keep dreaming
There should be no debate about it … India’s performance has always been pathetic in comparison to our population.
Even countries like Pakistan, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand are better in the rankings
Even Israel and Ukraine did better than India!
SEAsian countries were always better than south asian countries.
@@anurag0240ukraine humesa se accha krta h Israel ka bol skte ki hnn accha kiya h is baar
Do more fraud with own athelete like Narshingh and phogaat ,we will winn more gold
16:26, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 even that guys also smiled to that bullshit😂😂😂😂
1.5 dude