This cricket tak guy vikrant not even done live shows during olympics and didn't follow a single sport during 4 years and now he is in debate for reviewing India's performance at olympics . My goodness 😭
bro u cant give reason of cricket, brodcasting Pakistan arshad nadeem won gold with 0 government support here Indian government supported athletes hence that reason don't work here
This debate always happens whenever the Olympics concluded.. Nothing changes..again this type of debate happens after 2028 la Olympics these things will never end ..We can't compete the bigger countries in sports... Simple is that we don't have that sporting culture and that infrastructure and moreover that sincerity..
Do you often get to see national and international level competitions of weightlifting, fencing , swimming , gymnastics , boxing , shooting etc etc on tv? No bcs they never get broadcasted.. and they are not advertised properly to create hype so that public watch them.. unlike cricket..Do you get to watch indian football matches on tv? How we are supposed to watch them throughout the year if it doesn't even come on tv?? I don't know about others but i always get to watch cricket being broadcasted most of the time in all ten sports channels and bcs tennis is my fav sport so i watch it regularly, in that also no india tennis matches come only inyernational so you can't evwn get to know more indian tennis players other than some famous ones.... other than that sony shows golf , motor bike racing , canoeing , sailing (all foreign matches) so what am i supposed to watch????
Don't worry it will not change even in 2075...pity india and its development in sports and other areas like infrastructure, cleanliness,discipline , nothing will change,india can change only if democratic replaced with communism for 20-25years,Periodla
Thanks but we don't compare with Pakistan as you have different problem with different population our competitors are China and other western countries we want to be best of all but our poor education system of job seeker mentality behold us Respect for Arshad,he deserves more✌️ @@aliminhal5249
470 cr = 6 medals still we should not criticize what logic is this and with that logic even West Indies ex cricketers shouldn't criticize their current cricket team isn't it
India Sport Industry 2 Billion dollar Chine Sport Industry 7.5 Hundred Billion dollar India have 1000 Stadium China have 1 Lacs 70000 Stadium India cricket -> 87% of total sport capital or resources Surrender Mentality Conformity People play sports only for Job in India
We should focus on bollywood and media. We aren't a sporting nation. In movies we can be anything like world champions and gold medalists so lets focus on movies only.
toh 'sir' kyun bolte ho ? .. thats sheepish. Yeh 'sir' 'sir' culture hi mediocrity & submission ka root cause hai. Call people by name.. respect yourself & the person you are addressing to. Once you call someone a 'sir' .. or 'saheb', you are already putting them up on a pedestal & lose your ability to question them, to be critical of them when they slip up. Stop this mediocre 'sir' & 'saheb' culture. Calling people by their name is the most respect you can give anyone. Even elders .. except grandpa / grandma level elders.
Bruh there ain't any need to yap so long for someone calling other guy 'sir' like wtf that's such an obscure and futile thing to point out. Think better lol.@@note4g.airolinote4g.airoli96
New Zeland with 40 lakh population winning 10 gold and 20 medals in total, but we are a country of 140 crore with no sporting culture at all, it's a shame that amid all hype and support we are languishing below par at 72!
least population means less competition and better facilities and economics available to every citizen. huge population means more competition less resources and poor economics.
Starting? India has always rewarded mediocrity. They get happy with just qualifying. It’s not even facilities it’s more to do with the mindset of people and the athlete. Apart from a few athletes from Haryana including neeraj Chopra no one has that urge to be the best and improve. He is the only Indian athlete I have seen who is not happy with a silver.
@@05DonnieB North Korea is communist country they take sports seriously Rest 3 counties have black athletes who are very good in track and field events
Gyan dena asan hai bro jake dekho sports tak par olympics ke videos ke views aur cricket ke videos ke views tumhe pta chal jayega galti unki nahi hmari hai.😊@@abhigyapranshu4791
At first it's media duty to raise the voice of other sports other thn only cricket..thn only people will pick up playing other sports as profession...All media hypes are on cricket becoz in cricket their income is good naa selfish media..at least they should be selfless thn the real truth comes out...!!@@ankit-un2rd
@@ganrock-h8h He played with more than a dozen others to win one medal such is the nature of the sport he participates in. Where are the individual medals?
Who cares ? Southern ppl are good at what they r and they r contributing in the best way they can , btw WRESTLING SHOOTING r the only sports where we r good ,add to that except HARYANA and PJ to some extent no state has a sports culture @priyanshu95.
The guy who spoke first sends his kid to Cricket coaching and not Badminton coaching, not tennis coaching, not football coaching, not athletics coaching, not boxing coaching. That answers the question we are discussing. The only person who made sense was the lady who spoke last. The others were just showing off their arrogance and have no idea about the sacrifices a sportsman has to make to compete at the Olympics. You train 4 years of your life, sacrifice your childhood and youth for that moment and the margin of error is so thin. How many of these journos will allow their children to make those sacrifices? India is still a country of the poor, accept that before comparing it with Australia or the USA
Even in college group discussions, there is a flow and a conclusion; however, here, it felt more like a series of self-presentations about their knowledge of the Olympics, lacking the depth of good journalism and meaningful discussion.
Yes India didn't won because India today didn't cover other games.why would they cover mediocrity?war torn countries do better than India,even Afghanistani c team with some players not having pro contract defeated Indian football team which are highly paid in comparison to other South Asian nations,yet no questions were asked.So this prove their point that we reward mediocrity.when someone criticises athletes people say why you are criticising them,by this logic no one should question govt and beurocrats.the day athletes would be held accountable and bronze would be considered as defeat instead of victory India will win
Would you allow your daughter who is a wrestler and let the WFI chief ruin your daughter's careers ! And none of your children play any of the sports because you are more than a middle class family ❤
Pak finished above us 😅.. Our politician has no vision they are corrupted.. Throw all the politicians out of sports federation.. Identify kids, not elite athletes.. Our PM wants to host 2036 Olympics.. We need at least 15 Golds to finish in top 10 & we won't even finish in top 20 in 2036..
@@kunalnagarkoti4409 Enough with this bs about throwing politicians out of sports organisation, BCCI, the most efficient sporting body in the country is managed by politicians from start, they have built a ridiculously good & effective cricketing infrastructure around the country, upto every smaller states. Most of the the other sport bodies are ran by formers players compared to BCCI. Former players who don't no sh*t about management shouldn't be the one running the organisations.
Infrastructure plays a part, yes. But what about the sporting culture in the country? Are we willing to follow these athletes over the next 4 years? Did Vikrant Gupta ever do a non-cricket show on Sports Tak? A top cricketer farts, and they do a 20-min segment explaining the gaseous state of the emission on that channel. Did they do any segments on Hockey or Badminton or Shooting or Wrestling in all this while??
In a region the common discourse has idioms like "kheloge kudoge toh ho jaoge kharab, padhoge likhoge toh banoge nawab" How can we expect to win medals. And let's look at bigger picture, the underlying fact is that after every national achievement done by an individual, we go crazy on a social media frenzy and create demigods out of individuals. We, as a nation need to look into our common discourse, which celebrates mediocrity and hinders excellence. Remember these medals are not because of system but despite the system. It's a shame that one sixth of humanity doesn't has a solid sporting culture despite having a great history.
One think i don't understand that one side we talk about competing with china and the other side we celebrate winning 6 medals when china winning 91 medals
@Vikrant you keep on bringing example of Cricket again and again ...please explain to the viewers what India has done in cricket ..won only 4 world cups in last 50 years ..do we not celebrate mediocrity in India for Cricket ..problem is we as a nation is so obsesses with Cricket that we neglect other sports ..and reality is India is not at all good in Cricket ..the amount of focus we give to Cricket we should have won 10 world cups by now ..look at Australia they won the world cup max times and is no 4 in medal list in Olympic ..the problem is cricket and unless and untill IPL is stopped situation will remain same
guys, why are you talking as if we got 30 bronze medals..we have ONLY got 5 bronze medals! It's not like we got Bronze is many events. Cricket is destroying other sports, and that's the fact. Unless you divert attention from Cricket to other sports, no youngster will have interest or incentive to play other sports
Will all of you follow other sports in next 4 years have you reported french open? Have you reported thomas cup? Have you reported asian games 2022?? No, so you donot have right to debate on this topic .
Each sports federation will have their own world tournament on an annual basis and if you are on the podium for those tournaments (like the indian shooters and the javelin thrower), then you are considered one of the favorites. If you are lower ranking in these tournaments but just did enough to qualify for the Olympics for your nation, congrats and enjoy the Olympic experience. Unless you get very lucky, you will not hit the podium. I don't know how many of India's 100+ athletes are favorites (based on their achievements in the annual tournament of their sports). People can usually predict the medals of each country based on these annual tournaments. Simone Biles got gold in the 2023 world championships for all around. Gold for all around gymnastics in the Olympics. Quan Hongchan got gold in the 2024 world championship for 10 m platform diving. gold in Olympics. please see Indian athlete's progress in these tournaments and support them with resources to win in those tournaments. Do not only look every 4 years in the Olympics and expect a 12th place finisher in the annual tournaments to medal.
Cricket is successful because the BCCI manages it professionally and it doesn't tolerate mediocrity. Yes, politics and corruption happen in BCCI - but they deliver the results. This is the difference between Cricket and the rest of the sports in India.
You are right about BCCI but what goes in its favour is that it's an independent autonomous body, free from government influence...That is why it's doing well despite corruption. our Government tends to ruin everything good after their unneedful interference
This debate doesn't pickup the most essential part of the sport development. "How many sports have we tried as a child or teenager?" This question answers the whole debate.. it's the school and school system. China is a bad example we have to take example of USA. How they have integrated sports with education.
China is the best example bcoz they hv similar population as ours , US is a unique case where there is less competition and ppl themselves choose what they wish to do and there r enough opportunities to pursue it , unlike India
Doing cricket cricket before and after Olympics and then start debating about why India do not win medals, i urge people to follow other sports channels such as NNIS, Pahadi brothers etc who talk about sports other than cricket
This discussion is the perfect example why we don't do well. The panelist are all trying to talk over the others. The modarator is almost silent, the discipline is lacking. It is hard to understand who is saying what. I shall borrow a quote "We don't listen as much as we hear"
Cricket is so mediocre in India! Could not win any title in last 11 years. Yes olympians need to improve but still way better than overrated and overpaid cricketers.
Do this type of discussion for 4 continuous years. Question federation, gov policies everything. Unless fans and media create pressure on fed and gov both will do nothing. Why can't sports tak have a dedicated discussion for other sports twice every week. Media should also change their approach
Boria muzumdar is way better than vikrant gupta in terms of overall sports knowledge. If vikrant gupta does 350 days of cricket tak live, he doesnt have a right to even say a word ahy we cant win gold.
All these journalist have not even conducted a single show in 4 year for paris Olympics and now suddenly they are talking about it because it can got some views. Do these journalist and channel cover other sports for 4 year continuously like they cover cricket
They talked very less about what policy should be made in longer term, that can bring the raw talent. You give them financial security and facilities from early age, I bet, India will bring medals in next 10 years.
What else do you expect from a nation which treats one sport as religion, and its players are as Gods. These are the same channels and same anchors which only wake up to other sports once in 4 years and for the rest of the time dish out cricket news for more eye balls! And now the hypocrites are discussing why do we not have enough medals in Olympics. We need to take bold decisions and all the money should not go to one sport (look at what players got for winning T20 WC), the monopoly of BCCI should end, we people should start celebrating other sports and downplay cricket and the channels must not cover only cricket (irrespective of eyeballs), only then we can have a culture of sports in this country. If cricketers keep getting so much money (thanks to IPL) every child will want to become a cricketer, why will they embrace other sport? Only after these hard steps are taken, we can then start working on the points these people are discussing. What they are discussing is only software, which cannot work without a robust operating system. Throughout this discussion they are conveniently ignoring the operating system, and the entire discussion is on software!
05:24 thats such a lame point made by increasing the amount given to the gold medalist from rs 100 to 1000 rupees or from 1lk to 1 crore doesn't and will never ever produce more and more athletes imagine a 10 year old kid Singh headline that gold medalist has won 1 crore will that particular thing motivate him Orwell increasing the interest among that support because of that particular gold medalist will inspire him to take up the sport and play for it and wind medal I don't think all the medalist who have won Olympics of Haryana post 2004 will ever say that are motivation of winning a medal was to earn that 1 crore rupees which are state would give us no not at all this lady took the argument in a very weak and different direction if she would have spoken how Haryana has developed the infrastructure or the mentality to motivate for playing sports and inspire youngsters to win medals for the country then that would have made much more sense
Khud kya ukhada jindegi me dusro ko Gyan de raha hai kuch Nehi ho sakta.....tu jindegi mai kuch Nehi kar saka to Gyan mat chod.....achanak se koyi medal Nehi Lata china, Australia, USA ka sports budget dekh jakar yaha hockey k players ka khana toilet mai banta hai uske bad bhi wo medals lekar arahe hai..... infrastructure bana ne ko bol govt ko phir cricket ki tarah criticism karenge medal Nehi jita
@@anonymous_0731Ethiopia Uganda ka haal humse bhi bura hai even Kenya ka bhi shooting me inko Croatia bheja gya tha archery me 40cr ka budget lgaya tha boxing me high budget tha ek me bhi gold nhi aaya
The discussion was so amateur and childish. And there were way too many panelists. And what is Vikrant doing here? He hardly knows anything about cricket forget about athletics.
Only one thing india had to do for improving sports that focus on third tier cities and develop sports complex because maximum athletes come from these cities and they don't have any resources in their cities and introduce inter school competition strictly.
Just sports? India has been rewarding mediocrity in education, arts and even agriculture. Look at the tax redistribution to states that are constant underperformers. India is extremely lucky that the southern states are extremely patient and considerate. They not only carry the major burden of the country economically, they also are having to lose reputation and business as a tourist destination for foreigners whenever crimes against women happen in states north of the Vindhyas. Look at the recent case of a woman doctor in Kolkata. The southern states, despite being the safest in the whole country have to share this burden for no fault of theirs
Stop with your holier than thou attitude . Recently an auto driver slapped a woman in Bangalore ? Safety my ass . It's just Indian mainstream media is obsessed with news from Noth Indian states may be that's why you are delusional that South India states are safest . If South India so great why failed to win a medal in Olympics individually ? Since everything so sorted and fine in South India where is the result ?
😇😇😇We have definitely improved because many players were lost in Qf, Sf and even Finals. We need to convert this hardwork into medals now....keep going. We have not forget 107 medals in Asian Games. Olympic is a higher stage which needs higher nerves and preparation...Work on it...💪🏅👏🚩🚩🚩
That's bullshit . European countries are mad about football . America is mad about Baseball and Basketball . Other countries who won medals too have a favourite game .
@@Mira-pm3ni I agree with your first sentence more appropriate for your comment though.Other countries may be crazy about 1 sport,but they have a overall sport culture which encourages other sports and you can have a career in other sports…in India you can have a career in only cricket because of the hype and money flowing disproportionately into the sport…other sports at best get money if there is a win in Olympics otherwise they are starving.
The immediate fix is that Indian government provides scholarships to Indian high school kids to USA colleges to train in sports. After all, the IIT JEE topper is immediately admitted to MIT on full scholarship.
@@JaiPrakash-gc6ji Building own ecosystem may take 5 or more years. I spoke of immediate need, like send today. In U.S. UCLA, UC berkeley and many other universities have world-class athletes. Such systems take long to setup. In India, how do you get to train with top U.S. atheletes
We need to move beyond celebrating the medals. The authorities need to invest in the journey of players. Support them, polish them. Then celebration will have a true meaning. The recent example of PT Usha washing her hands off the weight issue with Vinesh Phogat is a case in point.
Too many people speaking over each other! There are a few things I would shift in this conversation: from blame to responsibility -- nobody wants to take blame, but it's reasonable to take responsibility; incentives matter, but the joy of performance matters more; celebrate every win (even 4th); make the athletes the center of the decisions -- if that means better athletes must be recruited, then so be it; focus on training and development for the long-term, not just for the next Olympics. This is a very short-sighted discussion. Looking at Indian athletes from outside of India, it's great to see so many doing well. It's true that the winning spirit needs to be there, but it has to be about more than just winning for the sake of winning. It should be about the joy of performance and excellence, and representing your country. That takes support, enthusiasm and encouragement, even if athletes are in 4th place. Then, they will want to come back and go for the gold rather than quitting. And, BTW, no country or its people is entitled to ANYTHING! Learn, work hard, train, do your absolute best and win. That's it.
we win cricket world cups after years where only 4-5 countries are capable of winning...and you blame players who are exposed to so much of attention and pressure and media once in 4 years?
@@ivaerz4977 bro if you would have followed Hockey India were playing that one match without amit rohidas....who is the most important defender... specially during corners....and India did concede 2 goals in penalty.Else india were the better team .They deserved gold this time.Nothing like stamina is the issue....they have won medals two consecutive times this shows how good they are
We are definitely improving but at a very slow rate. I know the medal count is less than last year but the performance was definitely better as compared to Tokyo olympics. We need to participate in more and more sports especially in swimming and athletics which has many medal events. I hope we will do much better in LA 2028.
We need more people like Vikrant & Akshita, Gaurav who have guts to call a Spade a Spade, DO NOT reward Mediocrity. Players have excellent facilities yet they fail.
Where were you when these athletes especially the wrestlers were protesting against the sexual assault cases! And if no support for them you will get this 😢
It is easy to comment on performance. Olympics is a big test and getting any medal is a highly difficult achievement. Integrated approach is required. Parents should encourage sports, schools should have ground and staff, govt should have budgets, sports clubs of govt should not be headed by officers or political leaders. We all should watch these sports and encourage them.
Please discuss what's happening in our schools we're most teachers don't understand sports Physical education teachers in schools are the biggest bane of indian sports they are outdated
4th place is not something to celebrate yet we should encourage and support these atheletes who are doing well. Its not just some gully ka khel ki koi bhi aake jeet jaaye. We are competing against the best in the world. Agar hum apne athletes ko fourth aane ke liye criticize karenge than they lose lose their heart and interest. Agar aap 4th place ko reward nahi karoge toh koi aage kyun aayega. Waise bhi Cricket ke alawa inko paise hi kitne milte hai...
This Lady Akshita is right we are celebrating medals not gold medals. i mean look at abhinav bindras statement after olympic saying that to get olympic medal is tough paris is over let’s focus on LA, but LA will also pass with 5 or 6 medals. my point is we need 3 to 4 gold to be in top 20 in medal telly & govt spending more who’s ranking in top 3 in particulars sports then there is Athletes responsibility to perform that’s because over govt is very SOFT ON ATHLETES.
School games periods should have detail updating on our Olympians just like History classes. Children should be quizzed about sports persons of India and who all won medals at Asian / Commonwealth and Olympics. They should be taught o view sports as a career. And it should be mandatory for all schools to register for Khelo India.
Our cities are too messy and crowded. No top athletes will come from there. Nobody can master a sport in a big city by playing 8 hours in a day. T1 cities cannot nurture excellence. We will get athletes from T2 and T3 cities and villages. Focus on them and provide facilities there.
Seriously we don't have the infrastructure in education and generating talents in an earlier day's. We still don't provide the athletes all the standards needed to compete in International level. But our ruling party is busy stating we spend money but without any outcome but praise us and revel themselves calling vishwaguru.
Vikrant ul haq, 364 days cricket journalist, 1 day sports journalist.
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vikrantulla type karte hee ulti ka emoji aataai type list may, just imagine even phone knows it 🤯🥵
This cricket tak guy vikrant not even done live shows during olympics and didn't follow a single sport during 4 years and now he is in debate for reviewing India's performance at olympics . My goodness 😭
Same buddy what a hypocrisy 🙄
Ya crazy they invited him . Maybe invite a Prakash Padukone or Abhinav bindra
Vikrant is comparing cricket to Olympics..he is a joker ... he doesn't even know Olympics
bro u cant give reason of cricket, brodcasting Pakistan arshad nadeem won gold with 0 government support here Indian government supported athletes hence that reason don't work here
He only bangs cricket and he us here to talk olympics utter non sense
This debate always happens whenever the Olympics concluded.. Nothing changes..again this type of debate happens after 2028 la Olympics these things will never end ..We can't compete the bigger countries in sports... Simple is that we don't have that sporting culture and that infrastructure and moreover that sincerity..
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Do you often get to see national and international level competitions of weightlifting, fencing , swimming , gymnastics , boxing , shooting etc etc on tv? No bcs they never get broadcasted.. and they are not advertised properly to create hype so that public watch them.. unlike cricket..Do you get to watch indian football matches on tv? How we are supposed to watch them throughout the year if it doesn't even come on tv??
I don't know about others but i always get to watch cricket being broadcasted most of the time in all ten sports channels and bcs tennis is my fav sport so i watch it regularly, in that also no india tennis matches come only inyernational so you can't evwn get to know more indian tennis players other than some famous ones.... other than that sony shows golf , motor bike racing , canoeing , sailing (all foreign matches) so what am i supposed to watch????
Don't worry it will not change even in 2075...pity india and its development in sports and other areas like infrastructure, cleanliness,discipline , nothing will change,india can change only if democratic replaced with communism for 20-25years,Periodla
the journalist wearing black says I give you an example 1000 times 😂
A country with reservation should not complain about mediocrity
Indian film industry will make a film on olympics where every GOLD medal will be won by INDIA, so don't worry.
Fake ID pakistani.Only they can say this kinda nonsense
Bro India did well ok love from Pakistan ❤
Thanks but we don't compare with Pakistan as you have different problem with different population our competitors are China and other western countries we want to be best of all but our poor education system of job seeker mentality behold us
Respect for Arshad,he deserves more✌️
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Bhai humaare Bhaarat mein hee ashwani lumar ki tarah panoti log hai, isliye desh ka yeh haal hai 🙁☹️🙄
Dont watch them for 4 years and then criticize😂😂😂
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They are funded for 4 years, why accountability shouldn't be asked?
@@surajsinghh566 i will fund you . go win :D go ! lol ... u cant win even ludo if funded.
470 cr = 6 medals still we should not criticize what logic is this and with that logic even West Indies ex cricketers shouldn't criticize their current cricket team isn't it
Funded only after they win something on their own. But china fund support them from childhood. @@surajsinghh566
Does Vikrant know anything about Olympics😂
Cricket Cricket Cricket😂
vikrantulla 🤮 doesn't even know cricket properly, how will he know other sports 🤮🤮🥹😭😫
Tum se to jayada hi janta hoga😂
India Sport Industry 2 Billion dollar
Chine Sport Industry 7.5 Hundred Billion dollar
India have 1000 Stadium
China have 1 Lacs 70000 Stadium
India cricket -> 87% of total sport capital or resources
Surrender Mentality
Conformity
People play sports only for Job in India
Ye baat acharya prasant ne kaha hai
Acharya prashants answer
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I agree 100% with sports/job argument.We are still a poor country,let's accept it😮
@@cricketguru6005😂😂😂 Yes me bhi bohi soch raha hu. Asrya se gayan lekar aya he.😂
We should focus on bollywood and media. We aren't a sporting nation. In movies we can be anything like world champions and gold medalists so lets focus on movies only.
Ye vikrant sir ko kuchh bhi nhi pata kyunki jindgi bhar cricket ke baat karte hai
toh 'sir' kyun bolte ho ? .. thats sheepish. Yeh 'sir' 'sir' culture hi mediocrity & submission ka root cause hai. Call people by name.. respect yourself & the person you are addressing to. Once you call someone a 'sir' .. or 'saheb', you are already putting them up on a pedestal & lose your ability to question them, to be critical of them when they slip up. Stop this mediocre 'sir' & 'saheb' culture. Calling people by their name is the most respect you can give anyone. Even elders .. except grandpa / grandma level elders.
Yeh front footie kab se Tera sir ho gaya
Bruh there ain't any need to yap so long for someone calling other guy 'sir' like wtf that's such an obscure and futile thing to point out. Think better lol.@@note4g.airolinote4g.airoli96
New Zeland with 40 lakh population winning 10 gold and 20 medals in total, but we are a country of 140 crore with no sporting culture at all, it's a shame that amid all hype and support we are languishing below par at 72!
And then you have to only look at the portion of this population belonging to 15 to 32 age group.
@@udaykadam5455India would still be number 1 in that list due to its huge population
It's genetics and dietary.
Poorer African nations have done better than us despite having a fraction of our population
least population means less competition and better facilities and economics available to every citizen. huge population means more competition less resources and poor economics.
@@akshaypadmanabhan8582 bhai kya likh rha h, more population means more taxes and money, and more ppl competing in multiple sports
Vikrant Is talking about mediocrity
Indian media ranking - 159/ 200
India ranking in Olympic - 71/200
😂😂 Phir bhi mooh kholna h aur criticize karna h
There is no logic
@@snehalkhatri9357think again and you will get the logic behind
@@snehalkhatri9357 it makes a lot of sense
Ye sahi tha guru😂😂
Starting? India has always rewarded mediocrity. They get happy with just qualifying. It’s not even facilities it’s more to do with the mindset of people and the athlete. Apart from a few athletes from Haryana including neeraj Chopra no one has that urge to be the best and improve. He is the only Indian athlete I have seen who is not happy with a silver.
if you domt provide best facility how can u win gold
@debameetsaha3906 I guess North Korea, Kenya, Ethiopia, Cuba, etc. all have better facilities than India?? Yet you have nukes for some reason😂 😂
Yes, they provide better facilities for their athletes. @@05DonnieB
@@05DonnieB North Korea is communist country they take sports seriously
Rest 3 counties have black athletes who are very good in track and field events
Yes they have,better facility in track and field,that's why they won, and cuba per capita is also good than india@@05DonnieB
There is no expert on this topic that means no data scientists or former athletes or sportspersons 😂! Vikrant can't do analysis of this
well pointed out . these dumbs cant figure out the issue
The girl in the pink jacket is not listening and just talking over others continously.
That's odd, possibly to flaunt her English skills.
First of all we are not a sporting nation .💔
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Ye vikrant pure saal cricket cricket karta rhta hai abhi yaad aya isko baaki bhi sports hote hai , mediocre soch hai iski , mediocre lecture bnd kar
Now is only time when Sports tak actually becomes "Sports Tak". For rest of year its Cricket Tak
Gyan dena asan hai bro jake dekho sports tak par olympics ke videos ke views aur cricket ke videos ke views tumhe pta chal jayega galti unki nahi hmari hai.😊@@abhigyapranshu4791
Indian journos saying "we shouldn't celebrate mediocrity" .. oh the irony 🙈
Because they need just some matter to debate.
Sports Today - you should ensure a debate where participants are not speaking over each other and then shouting. This is just hard to watch.
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Its a media only who celebrate cricket and give very kess importance to other sports
Other sports should earn that and generate more revenue and attract audience.Indian athletes get more than what they actually deserve
At first it's media duty to raise the voice of other sports other thn only cricket..thn only people will pick up playing other sports as profession...All media hypes are on cricket becoz in cricket their income is good naa selfish media..at least they should be selfless thn the real truth comes out...!!@@ankit-un2rd
Almost entire Southern India is so much educated, aware and well-to-do and yet couldn't produce even 1 medal... that's even more shocking.
Have u heard of Mr. Shreejesh, indian hockey goal keeper
@@ganrock-h8h He played with more than a dozen others to win one medal such is the nature of the sport he participates in. Where are the individual medals?
saar saar we are educated saar we are meat eaters...🤣🤣🤣
@@ganrock-h8h when it comes to sports, it's Haryana and Punjab. With due respect to Sreejesh, all those athletes from South have got us 0😂
Who cares ? Southern ppl are good at what they r and they r contributing in the best way they can , btw WRESTLING SHOOTING r the only sports where we r good ,add to that except HARYANA and PJ to some extent no state has a sports culture
@priyanshu95.
The guy who spoke first sends his kid to Cricket coaching and not Badminton coaching, not tennis coaching, not football coaching, not athletics coaching, not boxing coaching. That answers the question we are discussing.
The only person who made sense was the lady who spoke last. The others were just showing off their arrogance and have no idea about the sacrifices a sportsman has to make to compete at the Olympics. You train 4 years of your life, sacrifice your childhood and youth for that moment and the margin of error is so thin. How many of these journos will allow their children to make those sacrifices? India is still a country of the poor, accept that before comparing it with Australia or the USA
Uzbekistan won 10 gold
New zealand won 10 gold
Playing on their strengths
India needs to point out the strength and work upon them
@@kunalnagarkoti4409Are they historically good at the Olympics or was it a first time thing?
Played on their strength they have done extremely well in wrestling, taekwondo,judo and boxing
@@SuperSonic-im3bblast decades We do better each Olympic. I am from Uzbekistan
@@SuperSonic-im3bb we focused just 6-7 sports. And we try our best this sports not many sports
Unrealistic comparisons and expectations is irrelevant and irritating.
Very poor quality discussion.....not conclusive without coherence of thought
Even in college group discussions, there is a flow and a conclusion; however, here, it felt more like a series of self-presentations about their knowledge of the Olympics, lacking the depth of good journalism and meaningful discussion.
How many times india today cover hockey, badminton in year ?
You media people should cover this non-cricket games also.
Cricket tak
So that's why We r wining medals in Olympic 😂😂
Yes India didn't won because India today didn't cover other games.why would they cover mediocrity?war torn countries do better than India,even Afghanistani c team with some players not having pro contract defeated Indian football team which are highly paid in comparison to other South Asian nations,yet no questions were asked.So this prove their point that we reward mediocrity.when someone criticises athletes people say why you are criticising them,by this logic no one should question govt and beurocrats.the day athletes would be held accountable and bronze would be considered as defeat instead of victory India will win
Would you allow your daughter who is a wrestler and let the WFI chief ruin your daughter's careers ! And none of your children play any of the sports because you are more than a middle class family ❤
Parents at early age don't promote sports but studies. We never encourage sports as a career in early age that's the difference
Pak finished above us 😅.. Our politician has no vision they are corrupted.. Throw all the politicians out of sports federation..
Identify kids, not elite athletes..
Our PM wants to host 2036 Olympics..
We need at least 15 Golds to finish in top 10 & we won't even finish in top 20 in 2036..
Top 40 pakka agar India host kiye tu
Tu ja Bhai khelne 😂 . BC
Pak finished above because of one athlete and his freakish performance. They don't have any system in place. Just one guy's hard work.
@@kunalnagarkoti4409
Enough with this bs about throwing politicians out of sports organisation, BCCI, the most efficient sporting body in the country is managed by politicians from start, they have built a ridiculously good & effective cricketing infrastructure around the country, upto every smaller states.
Most of the the other sport bodies are ran by formers players compared to BCCI. Former players who don't no sh*t about management shouldn't be the one running the organisations.
@@arjunps6776 and that we failed to win even 1 gold.
Infrastructure plays a part, yes. But what about the sporting culture in the country? Are we willing to follow these athletes over the next 4 years? Did Vikrant Gupta ever do a non-cricket show on Sports Tak?
A top cricketer farts, and they do a 20-min segment explaining the gaseous state of the emission on that channel. Did they do any segments on Hockey or Badminton or Shooting or Wrestling in all this while??
In a region the common discourse has idioms like "kheloge kudoge toh ho jaoge kharab, padhoge likhoge toh banoge nawab"
How can we expect to win medals.
And let's look at bigger picture, the underlying fact is that after every national achievement done by an individual, we go crazy on a social media frenzy and create demigods out of individuals.
We, as a nation need to look into our common discourse, which celebrates mediocrity and hinders excellence.
Remember these medals are not because of system but despite the system.
It's a shame that one sixth of humanity doesn't has a solid sporting culture despite having a great history.
In India, people play for a job/government job and that's the reality.
We should have caste based reservations in sports to give equal opportunities to every caste.
Sounds like a plan, as long as there is castesim
Uzbekistan won 8 gold medals🏅🏅
Kenya has 4 gold medals even Ethiopia has 1 gold and 3 silver medals and even Uganda has 1 gold medal
Unrealistic and irrelevant comparison
One think i don't understand that one side we talk about competing with china and the other side we celebrate winning 6 medals when china winning 91 medals
Look these clowns who themselves will cover cricket for 364 days and at time of Olympic they become sport journalist.
Bilkul
So that's why ind is not wining Medals
@Vikrant you keep on bringing example of Cricket again and again ...please explain to the viewers what India has done in cricket ..won only 4 world cups in last 50 years ..do we not celebrate mediocrity in India for Cricket ..problem is we as a nation is so obsesses with Cricket that we neglect other sports ..and reality is India is not at all good in Cricket ..the amount of focus we give to Cricket we should have won 10 world cups by now ..look at Australia they won the world cup max times and is no 4 in medal list in Olympic ..the problem is cricket and unless and untill IPL is stopped situation will remain same
guys, why are you talking as if we got 30 bronze medals..we have ONLY got 5 bronze medals! It's not like we got Bronze is many events. Cricket is destroying other sports, and that's the fact. Unless you divert attention from Cricket to other sports, no youngster will have interest or incentive to play other sports
I blame cricket for india not winning a Olympic gold.
A country of 1.40 billion and only 6 medals that too without gold is something to think about seriously
Will all of you follow other sports in next 4 years have you reported french open? Have you reported thomas cup? Have you reported asian games 2022?? No, so you donot have right to debate on this topic .
Each sports federation will have their own world tournament on an annual basis and if you are on the podium for those tournaments (like the indian shooters and the javelin thrower), then you are considered one of the favorites. If you are lower ranking in these tournaments but just did enough to qualify for the Olympics for your nation, congrats and enjoy the Olympic experience. Unless you get very lucky, you will not hit the podium. I don't know how many of India's 100+ athletes are favorites (based on their achievements in the annual tournament of their sports). People can usually predict the medals of each country based on these annual tournaments. Simone Biles got gold in the 2023 world championships for all around. Gold for all around gymnastics in the Olympics. Quan Hongchan got gold in the 2024 world championship for 10 m platform diving. gold in Olympics. please see Indian athlete's progress in these tournaments and support them with resources to win in those tournaments. Do not only look every 4 years in the Olympics and expect a 12th place finisher in the annual tournaments to medal.
Cricket is successful because the BCCI manages it professionally and it doesn't tolerate mediocrity. Yes, politics and corruption happen in BCCI - but they deliver the results. This is the difference between Cricket and the rest of the sports in India.
You are right about BCCI but what goes in its favour is that it's an independent autonomous body, free from government influence...That is why it's doing well despite corruption. our Government tends to ruin everything good after their unneedful interference
This debate doesn't pickup the most essential part of the sport development.
"How many sports have we tried as a child or teenager?"
This question answers the whole debate.. it's the school and school system.
China is a bad example we have to take example of USA. How they have integrated sports with education.
China is the best example bcoz they hv similar population as ours , US is a unique case where there is less competition and ppl themselves choose what they wish to do and there r enough opportunities to pursue it , unlike India
Doing cricket cricket before and after Olympics and then start debating about why India do not win medals, i urge people to follow other sports channels such as NNIS, Pahadi brothers etc who talk about sports other than cricket
They call them self news ancors . They are so disrespectful of each other by not allowing other to speak
This discussion is the perfect example why we don't do well. The panelist are all trying to talk over the others. The modarator is almost silent, the discipline is lacking.
It is hard to understand who is saying what.
I shall borrow a quote "We don't listen as much as we hear"
How many of the panelists are sports people who can point out the right reason ?
Cricket is so mediocre in India! Could not win any title in last 11 years. Yes olympians need to improve but still way better than overrated and overpaid cricketers.
Mediocrity is in the blood of this country when Reservation is more important than Skill and Talent😂
‘Athletes’ in cricket… what a joke
Do this type of discussion for 4 continuous years. Question federation, gov policies everything. Unless fans and media create pressure on fed and gov both will do nothing. Why can't sports tak have a dedicated discussion for other sports twice every week. Media should also change their approach
Boria muzumdar is way better than vikrant gupta in terms of overall sports knowledge.
If vikrant gupta does 350 days of cricket tak live, he doesnt have a right to even say a word ahy we cant win gold.
vikrant gupta doesnt know anything except cricket
Who told u he knows cricket?
He is farzi sports journalist from WhatsApp university.
Wow.. How can a tv debate panel fight even for such a topic.. is this some kind of recipe of success in TV debate??
Regular discussion must take place on Olympic sports please keep doing that dont switch for cricket next 4 years and come back again with this
vikrant is a frauud journalist
All these journalist have not even conducted a single show in 4 year for paris Olympics and now suddenly they are talking about it because it can got some views. Do these journalist and channel cover other sports for 4 year continuously like they cover cricket
They talked very less about what policy should be made in longer term, that can bring the raw talent.
You give them financial security and facilities from early age, I bet, India will bring medals in next 10 years.
Lack of capital, lack of sporting culture,
Don't depend on individual aberration for medals
There should be a system producing many medalers
We reward mediocrity in journalism. Bootlickers are at top level in journalism. We cant do anything about it😂😂😂.
Media is to blame. Because media is focusing on only cricket. There are better sponsors only in cricket. Sorry
Excellent Debate. DO NOT reward Mediocrity.
Preeti is bang on. fire in the belly doesn't feed the family
What else do you expect from a nation which treats one sport as religion, and its players are as Gods. These are the same channels and same anchors which only wake up to other sports once in 4 years and for the rest of the time dish out cricket news for more eye balls! And now the hypocrites are discussing why do we not have enough medals in Olympics. We need to take bold decisions and all the money should not go to one sport (look at what players got for winning T20 WC), the monopoly of BCCI should end, we people should start celebrating other sports and downplay cricket and the channels must not cover only cricket (irrespective of eyeballs), only then we can have a culture of sports in this country. If cricketers keep getting so much money (thanks to IPL) every child will want to become a cricketer, why will they embrace other sport? Only after these hard steps are taken, we can then start working on the points these people are discussing. What they are discussing is only software, which cannot work without a robust operating system. Throughout this discussion they are conveniently ignoring the operating system, and the entire discussion is on software!
...downplay cricket. lol
05:24 thats such a lame point made by increasing the amount given to the gold medalist from rs 100 to 1000 rupees or from 1lk to 1 crore doesn't and will never ever produce more and more athletes imagine a 10 year old kid Singh headline that gold medalist has won 1 crore will that particular thing motivate him Orwell increasing the interest among that support because of that particular gold medalist will inspire him to take up the sport and play for it and wind medal I don't think all the medalist who have won Olympics of Haryana post 2004 will ever say that are motivation of winning a medal was to earn that 1 crore rupees which are state would give us no not at all this lady took the argument in a very weak and different direction if she would have spoken how Haryana has developed the infrastructure or the mentality to motivate for playing sports and inspire youngsters to win medals for the country then that would have made much more sense
Shameful discussion. No concrete outcome or insights for anyone. Just waffling some English words shows how chaotic everything is in this country.
Preeti Choudhary like her mentor Rajdeep Sardesai brings politics into everything. For gods sake preeti this is not a political debate . Shame on you
she has a fkin point Other states such as TN,MP need a coherent sports policy
200 saal b yahi discussion chalta rahega ..in short India ka kuch nahi hosakta...
Khud kya ukhada jindegi me dusro ko Gyan de raha hai kuch Nehi ho sakta.....tu jindegi mai kuch Nehi kar saka to Gyan mat chod.....achanak se koyi medal Nehi Lata china, Australia, USA ka sports budget dekh jakar yaha hockey k players ka khana toilet mai banta hai uske bad bhi wo medals lekar arahe hai..... infrastructure bana ne ko bol govt ko phir cricket ki tarah criticism karenge medal Nehi jita
@@anonymous_0731Ethiopia Uganda ka haal humse bhi bura hai even Kenya ka bhi shooting me inko Croatia bheja gya tha archery me 40cr ka budget lgaya tha boxing me high budget tha ek me bhi gold nhi aaya
our journalists too are so mediocre. There is no in depth analysis. This is such a generic analysis.
The discussion was so amateur and childish. And there were way too many panelists. And what is Vikrant doing here? He hardly knows anything about cricket forget about athletics.
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How .many parents take their children to watch sports in their district maidens?they take them to malls
Only one thing india had to do for improving sports that focus on third tier cities and develop sports complex because maximum athletes come from these cities and they don't have any resources in their cities and introduce inter school competition strictly.
Seriously
Why bring a cricket guy in this debate?
Just sports? India has been rewarding mediocrity in education, arts and even agriculture. Look at the tax redistribution to states that are constant underperformers. India is extremely lucky that the southern states are extremely patient and considerate. They not only carry the major burden of the country economically, they also are having to lose reputation and business as a tourist destination for foreigners whenever crimes against women happen in states north of the Vindhyas. Look at the recent case of a woman doctor in Kolkata. The southern states, despite being the safest in the whole country have to share this burden for no fault of theirs
Stop with your holier than thou attitude . Recently an auto driver slapped a woman in Bangalore ? Safety my ass . It's just Indian mainstream media is obsessed with news from Noth Indian states may be that's why you are delusional that South India states are safest . If South India so great why failed to win a medal in Olympics individually ? Since everything so sorted and fine in South India where is the result ?
😇😇😇We have definitely improved because many players were lost in Qf, Sf and even Finals. We need to convert this hardwork into medals now....keep going. We have not forget 107 medals in Asian Games. Olympic is a higher stage which needs higher nerves and preparation...Work on it...💪🏅👏🚩🚩🚩
Cricket hype is the reason we are mediocre in all other sports.
That's bullshit . European countries are mad about football . America is mad about Baseball and Basketball . Other countries who won medals too have a favourite game .
@@Mira-pm3ni I agree with your first sentence more appropriate for your comment though.Other countries may be crazy about 1 sport,but they have a overall sport culture which encourages other sports and you can have a career in other sports…in India you can have a career in only cricket because of the hype and money flowing disproportionately into the sport…other sports at best get money if there is a win in Olympics otherwise they are starving.
The immediate fix is that Indian government provides scholarships to Indian high school kids to USA colleges to train in sports. After all, the IIT JEE topper is immediately admitted to MIT on full scholarship.
Instead of sending Athletes to US we should built our own ecosystem, I know it is difficult but not impossible.
@@JaiPrakash-gc6ji Building own ecosystem may take 5 or more years. I spoke of immediate need, like send today. In U.S. UCLA, UC berkeley and many other universities have world-class athletes. Such systems take long to setup. In India, how do you get to train with top U.S. atheletes
We need to move beyond celebrating the medals. The authorities need to invest in the journey of players. Support them, polish them. Then celebration will have a true meaning.
The recent example of PT Usha washing her hands off the weight issue with Vinesh Phogat is a case in point.
Too many people speaking over each other! There are a few things I would shift in this conversation: from blame to responsibility -- nobody wants to take blame, but it's reasonable to take responsibility; incentives matter, but the joy of performance matters more; celebrate every win (even 4th); make the athletes the center of the decisions -- if that means better athletes must be recruited, then so be it; focus on training and development for the long-term, not just for the next Olympics. This is a very short-sighted discussion. Looking at Indian athletes from outside of India, it's great to see so many doing well. It's true that the winning spirit needs to be there, but it has to be about more than just winning for the sake of winning. It should be about the joy of performance and excellence, and representing your country. That takes support, enthusiasm and encouragement, even if athletes are in 4th place. Then, they will want to come back and go for the gold rather than quitting. And, BTW, no country or its people is entitled to ANYTHING! Learn, work hard, train, do your absolute best and win. That's it.
we win cricket world cups after years where only 4-5 countries are capable of winning...and you blame players who are exposed to so much of attention and pressure and media once in 4 years?
That 4-5 countries 3rd class sport is cricket where no feeling of nationalism is there for that sport
Indian players lack speed and stamina look what happened in semi final against Germany
@@ivaerz4977 bro if you would have followed Hockey India were playing that one match without amit rohidas....who is the most important defender... specially during corners....and India did concede 2 goals in penalty.Else india were the better team .They deserved gold this time.Nothing like stamina is the issue....they have won medals two consecutive times this shows how good they are
You are holy shit 😂
Now come after 4 years😂
We are definitely improving but at a very slow rate. I know the medal count is less than last year but the performance was definitely better as compared to Tokyo olympics. We need to participate in more and more sports especially in swimming and athletics which has many medal events. I hope we will do much better in LA 2028.
We need more people like Vikrant & Akshita, Gaurav who have guts to call a Spade a Spade, DO NOT reward Mediocrity. Players have excellent facilities yet they fail.
Where were you when these athletes especially the wrestlers were protesting against the sexual assault cases! And if no support for them you will get this 😢
It is easy to comment on performance. Olympics is a big test and getting any medal is a highly difficult achievement. Integrated approach is required. Parents should encourage sports, schools should have ground and staff, govt should have budgets, sports clubs of govt should not be headed by officers or political leaders. We all should watch these sports and encourage them.
India needs to win hockey gold medals, its what they are good at
It is when Russia was not allowed in this Olympics.
We might have lost a few more medals with them .
We wouldn't have . Top ten countries would have lost .
Please discuss what's happening in our schools we're most teachers don't understand sports
Physical education teachers in schools are the biggest bane of indian sports they are outdated
Indian body and diet isn't meant for competing in the highest level.
Talk about the amount money going to Gujrat and other states, compare the numbers and it is almost six times more than any other state!
Sports federations, Modi's sports ministry as well as athletes are responsible and should be held accountable. Collective effort for this poor show.
I agree with the Caption "Are We Stuck in Bronze Age" ??
4th place is not something to celebrate yet we should encourage and support these atheletes who are doing well. Its not just some gully ka khel ki koi bhi aake jeet jaaye. We are competing against the best in the world. Agar hum apne athletes ko fourth aane ke liye criticize karenge than they lose lose their heart and interest. Agar aap 4th place ko reward nahi karoge toh koi aage kyun aayega. Waise bhi Cricket ke alawa inko paise hi kitne milte hai...
This Lady Akshita is right we are celebrating medals not gold medals.
i mean look at abhinav bindras statement after olympic saying that to get olympic medal is tough paris is over let’s focus on LA, but LA will also pass with 5 or 6 medals.
my point is we need 3 to 4 gold to be in top 20 in
medal telly & govt spending more who’s ranking in top 3 in particulars sports then there is Athletes responsibility to perform that’s because over govt is very SOFT ON ATHLETES.
The panel itself is quite mediocre, to say the least.
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School games periods should have detail updating on our Olympians just like History classes. Children should be quizzed about sports persons of India and who all won medals at Asian / Commonwealth and Olympics. They should be taught o view sports as a career. And it should be mandatory for all schools to register for Khelo India.
Our cities are too messy and crowded. No top athletes will come from there. Nobody can master a sport in a big city by playing 8 hours in a day. T1 cities cannot nurture excellence. We will get athletes from T2 and T3 cities and villages. Focus on them and provide facilities there.
Love to hear Vikrant sir
This is the main problem with Indian audience. Not willing to accept defeat or failure😅😅😅
Seriously we don't have the infrastructure in education and generating talents in an earlier day's.
We still don't provide the athletes all the standards needed to compete in International level.
But our ruling party is busy stating we spend money but without any outcome but praise us and revel themselves calling vishwaguru.
We are used to celebrate mediocrity in all fields....government, roads. Railway, cleanliness, social morality