Oh dear, Keir
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- I had few hopes for Keir Starmer’s speech at Labour Party conference, and he managed to match none of them. That is how bad it was. Let me run through some of his failings…..
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Well said Richard. Starmer is PM because the Tories were so bad not because of anything he said. He is still not saying anything worthwhile.
The one-party system is here to stay, he is there because we have a totally dysfunctional voting system and a one-party system, all qualifying parties are beating the same drum and it's not Drake's drum.
@@peacedreamerable We can change this if we keep drumming it into people from now on, to stop voting for the duopoly. It started off well last election. You might not have seen it but it did and we need everyone on board on social media to keep repeating it.
Yeah right. You know what 80% voted for Sunak because he delivered whilst Starmer was stuck on the fence. 34% foreigners abroad voted for Labour. Farage helped Starmer to rig Conservative votes to form coalition with Labour but it didn't work. If it's because Conservative was bad why is Starmer rated the worst then? Conservative won GE under Sunak. Starmer rigged Conservative votes. Sunak is coming back as our British PM for Starmer is unfit to lead our country
@@K4rmaRules We need a left-wing party/alliance to vote for first.
That is the truth. Labour is the least bad option in our two-party system.
beating Corbyn with the old straw man and the anti-semitic smear. Nothing to be proud of in my book.
Never for one minute believed Corbyn was anti-semitic. It took a re-definition of the word for thar smear to even half stick. Lots of words have been re-defined in recent years. Woman, vaccine, safety. All very peculiar isn't it? Handy way to entrap people in existing laws. Watch out for more.
Agreed. Pathetic, petty and duplicitous.
Mine neither
@@philipparker1319yes especially as all the investigations exonerated him.
An example of Starmer awfulness is when he said he wanted care workers to be respected the same as a PM would be. What planet is he on, I respect care workers much more than I do this or the last few PMs (or most other MPs in fact). Maybe this shows he’s delusional and that HE thinks he is more respected!
@DrewSpencer1 - you should write to him and tell him that 😂
Careworkers have the respect of those they care for, and they have self respect. The 'respect' they really need is a decent wage from their employers so they don't have to work 14 hour shifts and 2 jobs to make ends meet. Is that what Starmer meant? Is he about to announce a substantial and realistic increase in the minimum wage (or would that upset his wealthy donors)?
He doesn't want disabled people to be respected. He is continuing the war on disabled people. It's triangulation.
@@diverseandinclusivesomewhat true. It's an unregulated industry and abuse of disabled people is rife. Disabled people are as invisible and as silenced as ever.
My care workers SHOW that they care, this man PROVES that he isn’t even sure who anyone else is.
He isn't confused, it's deliberate obfuscation.
Right. He knows what he's doing. He, and his backers, have had a plan from day one and it's worked perfectly for them.
Yep. He willingly protects the interests of the sections of the ruling class that fund his career, and knows exactly how to execute on that. I don't buy that he's clueless, incompetent, or unimaginative; if he was any of the above, he wouldn't have been showered in gifts.
Nailed it. 14 years of plotting, scheming and undermining their own side, for this?! Abysmal
Check your facts. He wasn't even an MP until 2015. The first time you might want to label him as plotting is when he resigned from his position as shadow immigration minister in 2016. Even being generous and saying he was plotting from that moment it would still only be 8 years.
@martineyles that selected starmer! starmer is and was always part of the establishment, they selected him to be their pm and they selected him to be an mp!!! if you have no understanding of this just say so.
@@sirgaymeerkat1994 This only counts as plotting against his own side if the party was bucking the establishment at that time. As Ed Miliband, leader at the time, is a cabinet member now, I don't think that holds.
@@martineyles miliband is part of the establishment and was backed by party members, the same party members that sabotaged the last leader! so you are completely wrong!
Wasn't it Starmer who told us countless times his dad was a tool maker and his mum was a nurse .
Wasn't it also Starmer who told us many times that the ones with the broadest shoulders will bear the biggest costs .
Instead he attacks the pensioners who have the leanest shoulders in order to save 1.5 billion pound which in the scheme of things is paltry .
Never forget this , the richest 1% of our society own 50% of the wealth of the nation .
Starmer really IS the biggest tool his dad aver made...
When he said, "The people with the broadest shoulders should bear the costs" people thought he was talking metaphorically but he was actually talking literally.
@@pipster1891
Then when is he following Scotland in increasing top rate of income tax to 48% as its currently 3% lower in England ?
Lol.... 0.1% of the population owns 85% of the assets and land ownership.
@@ScottishRoss27there are other methods, as explained by the patriotic millionaires and others. Tax asset wealth over £10 million. Tax investment income at the same rate as work income (including NI).
He confirmed my suspicions that he has changed the party into the Tory party of the 1970's.
I think the Ted Heath (1970-74) was probably somewhere to the left of the current labour leadership in all honesty.
@@m0rafic1🤣
@@m0rafic1definitely, he believed in the social contract.
The Tories were only in power from 1970 - 74, until Thatcher won in 1979. Never forget the Winter of Discontent, under Callaghan.
More like Soviet Union Communist Party
Owen Jones says that the heckler who, quite rightly, raised the slaughter of children in Gaza was not only half-choked as he was bundled out of the room by a Labour councillor, but was also, incredibly, arrested for breach of the peace - for heckling a politician! Have we entered a parallel Stasi universe?
It would appear so. Seems like a dictatorship to me
Well has has broken peace, just like those "children" in Gaza (who for some reason were exactly where terrorists were)
They guy who dragged him out should be charged for assault. The cheering from Labour members as he was dragged out was disgraceful.
God that is disgraceful
@@pipster1891Absolutely agree
It wasn’t just the content of Starmer’s speech that was so hopeless, the delivery, for all its bombast, was hollow and wooden. It was like staring into a huge empty cupboard.
We can hide the sausages!
John Major was supposed to be ‘grey’ - Starmer has far less colour.
Yes but he still has more than a a hint of gray .😂😂😂
He's transparent.
Starmer makes Major look as colourful as Ronald McDonald.
Most of us know that Labour gained power because the Tories were so bad at their job. But what Labour hasn't yet understood is that the public don't want more Tory mismanaged/smug government. It seems Starmer and Reeves and their heavy-handed mistreatment of one heckler at the conference - they haven't read the memo that the public plastered to their entry door - you are in power to represent human beings living and working and retired and growing up in the UK. You aren't in power to be bullies.
The Tories and Labour are not "mismanaging". They are managing exactly as their masters want them to manage - by transferring wealth from the public to the rich.
I didn't expect much from Tory Lite Starmer, but one might have expected something. I'm old now and don't expect to see a decent government in the rest of my life.
How is he a Tory? He literally said he wants to take control of everyone's life, exactly like a communist party would do
Neither do I, and I'm a new-born baby.
Yep, keep voting and keep deluding yourselves that your small band of privileged politicians care about anything except themselves and their cronies. Fool's you!
Same here absolutely agree
@@pipster1891bless you
Oh fking dear Keir indeed! Before he become PM he was kicking people out of the party for the slightest "misdeed". Now he is PM and has been caught with his hand in the till all the excuses come out! He said his govt will not be like the previous govt. Boy was I taken in. It's an insult to our intelligence for him and his party to defend the things they criticised the Tories for. F em.🤬
You should really have learned about him after the Labour leadership election.
Demanding the return of Sausages from Gaza was a positive!
When you win by the other side not turning up is no Victory .
As an NHS worker proud of the service we provide to our cancer patients I am fed up constantly being insulted by Labour politicians saying we are 'broken'. They can sod right off.
95% of patients are happy with the care they received.
Scottish Cancer Patient Experience Survey 2024.
Well said you governments are a disgrace
@@ScottishRoss27Scotland isn’t real.
@@mr.afrikaans1747What a stupid comment.Scotland is a country ,I live here.
@@mr.afrikaans1747
Eh?
Release the sausages!
Gotta be Kosher
From river to the sea the sausages will be free 🪧📢🌭 🤣🤣🤣
He wants a two plate solution apparently
Starmer is just the wurst.
Even "the interests of working people" is a bit of a lie. He's looking after the interests of bosses who want people to go to work, not the welfare of the workers themselves
Starmer, according to the daily mail today, has just paid off his £2 million mortgage on his London town house? How?
Ali ?
Donated Shekels? 🤑🤑🤑💀🇮🇱
Because he was head of the CPS so he was on a good salary
@@JB_inks and of course he is not liable to pay tax on the pension he will receive from his time at the CPS. Bloody hypocrite.
@@robertadams1054 Happy to criticise Starmer, he is simply awful and has trashed the Labour Party however, I don't see how he will avoid paying tax on his civil service pension when he receives it. Nothing different about employee/employer contributions in the civil service in comparison to company pension schemes that I'm aware of.
Those who voted for him have only themselves to blame. I didn't, so thank you for that.
He knows he'll get a free pass in the corporate media and is not confused, simply continuing the status quo.
Mr.charmer Starmer..." I prefer Davos to Westinster" what a guy.
Starmer got rid of Corbin, which in my opinion is the worst thing Labour have ever done. He’s denying this country a great leader for Starmer at the mediocre leader, who stands up for nothing, except for money and power.
Spot on Richard. The PM’s judgement is questionable even at this early stage. He has been hedged into a corner of his own making.
In the words of Blackadder "Yes. Well it started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle & the less said about the end the better! But apart from that, excellent!".
The speech, made by the ex boss of the Crown Prosecution Service!!! This shows why our legal system is in such a bad state.
*England's
@@ScottishRoss27of course, the SNP run Scotland's, to their advantage
@@smythharris2635
Population Justice Budget Spend Per Head
Scotland 5,4m £3 Billion £555
England & Wales 60,9m £11 Billion £180
= SNP run Scotland spends £375 more per person on Justice than Labour run England & Wales.
Under a Starmer leadership the only change you'll see for working people are things that don't cost much, don't affect the 1%, or it makes the 1% wealthier.
I totally agree with you Richard .
Britain’s version of Kamala Harris, talks a lot but says nothing.
Weakest of the weak.😮
Neo-liberal to the core.
Right on; give us Trump's old Mussolini routine.
Only winning because their opposition are even worse?
@@michaelmayo3127 Trump is another neo-liberal.
If I were a not very charismatic, aloof authoritarian, on a personal mission with obscure, unexpected and widely unwanted objectives for my country, yesterday's vague rhetoric is the sort I'd be putting out for media & public consumption.
We in Scotland saw through this Labour Party years ago during Blair and Brown.
They offer nothing and will sell you down the river.
A crisis of philosophy.
Loved his ‘we’re all in this together’ comment. Now where have I heard that before?
Rich people like him are not in it with us 😮
Well at least the sausages are coming home, they will do well with Millibrains bacon sandwich.
He doesn't want the sausages to come home , he just wants free sausages, I'm sure his pal Ali will be happy to give him one.😂😂😂
What a sausage
He has transformed the party, now they are all TOOLS .😂😂😂
Restore the winter fuel payments for Pensioners Starmer or the sausages are getting it.
Spot on. The total collapse of the Tories has put in place an utterly clueless man (I almost wrote "politician" but he's certainly not that, who is there by default. It's almost like taking a random spectator out of the crowd at his beloved Arsenal and straight onto the pitch. Suddenly everyone realises the spectator can't play football. Just like Starmer can't do politics, or even have a clue what he wants to do. Just pass the ball to someone else Keir. You're embarrassing yourself!
If Kier only manages to bring back the sausages most Labour voters will be happy.
Starmer like the Tories before him will not really govern for the"workers"Starmer has the same idea of a"worker"as Sunak did before him(people earning a minimum of £80,000 are workers,anyone earning below that is a shirker or someone who lacks ambition). Starmer will instead act for the business owners and those with inherited wealth. The people who can donate millions of pounds to the Labour party; helping then avoid paying unnecessary taxes(or indeed any taxes at all)deregulating everything he can and privatising and selling off to vested interests the few remaining publicly owned services such as the NHS,Scottish water and Scotrail. there is in essence no difference between the economic and political approach of Starmer and that of the Tories. We can see that austerity 2.0 is the new economic plan needed largely because of brexit and that under Labour brexit or as it should really be called Exit(English exit from the EU as it was foisted on the other countries and nations of the UK and possessions such as Gibraltar by English votes whether these English people lived in England,Scotland Wales,Gibraltar or even the EU(Northern Ireland being a special case where unionism and the bond to London and the English establishment are bound together to the nullification of all other concerns)must be maintained in it's current form at all costs which means no rapprochement with the EU and no likelihood of as I say economic recovery on any meaningful scale
Nothing about SERCO who have contracts that involve national security yet at the same time have contracts to house illegal immigrants costing the taxpayer £9 Billion a year.
Care workers are treated terribly. Overworked, paltry pay, no sick leave, servant like long hours etc. Does Starmer want to be treated like that?
Who was it now that wrote; a man that mumbles in his speech is a man, that mumble in his mind. Starmer seems to fit that profile. OK, OK; so Starmer will play the flute, while the UK burns!! Starmer doesn't seem to realise, that if you don't want fleeing migrants in your country, then as a politician; one shouldn't starts wars in theirs, something Labour's Blair did!!
Starmer has completely lost the plot.
Starmer has achieved his prime directives:
(1) shielding Israel from any action by a UK government that respects international law
(2) protecting the oligarchs from a just taxation system and action to end their looting of our resources and environment.
All that remains is to keep the neocon project ticking along and to grab as much as he can for himself while he can
He labels anyone who mentions migration far right thugs,am sick of this narrative people have genuine concerns,not allowed to talk about how much migration is costing us,check out the orb statistics,explains why the country is in the state it is.
Labour are stuck with the term "the working person" or similar versions of the term. This is because the defence of the working class is fundamental to its history, creation and its very purpose for existing.
However, the philosophical dilemma it has now is that the effete middleclass that runs the Labour party abandoned the working class as much as three decades ago. It is left with the obligation to trundle out terms that sound like they might be some kind of facsimile for "the working class" because to do otherwise would be to disavow its very roots.
And what of its real attitude to the real working class? Well, set up courts that run day and night to jail them
So was protest but Reeves said Labour isn't a party of protest
@@ScottishRoss27 Of course. The Labour party is just another permitted political party of the managerial state. It lines up with the civil service, media, security services, academia, corporate finance and other corporations, etc. to defend and advance its own interests. The interests of the British people at large are not even secondary
Nearly everybody is working class - they work for someone else and get a wage. All that differs is the amount of that wage and other differences - education, tastes, political opinions - merely come from that money. (Although nowadays some "middle-class" jobs like teacher earn a lot less than some "working-class" jobs like plumber). The only people who are really middle class are people who own a business or those with jobs which don't have an employer, like MPs.
@@pipster1891 Wrong. In the British context "working class" is also a culture. One hated by the establishment
@@ScottishRoss27when did we vote to not be the party of protest?
It wasn't a flute he was playing the piccolo.
Two tier, no beer, no money for you, more control, more fear and all the gear Labour Keir!
Starmer has made huge progress with breaking down barriers. Both young muslims (thanks to his stance on Israel) and the elderly both hate his guts.
People coming from a safe country such as France cannot be called "refugees".
Do you mean they are French citizens or they travelled through France?
Sure, people who don't speak a word of French are from France 🙄
They're coming via France, not from France.
Perhaps they could be called sausages. 😂😂😂
They did the same when your Tory party were in charge 😮
Most modern liberal democracies are far from ideal, even in the best ones the elite wields a lot of power. However, the UK is perhaps the biggest joke of them all when it comes to both parties being basically the same. In effect, we have two Tory parties these days.
Terrible man - bad news for country. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
He got new clothes and free footy tickets. How do you dare to say Sir Keir has no clue why he is Prime Minister.
You talk great sense,Starmer should have you on board as advisor but like most PMs he will surround himself with yes men.
Yes.
They are ‘fleeing’ from war torn countries?? - thanks for the heads-up, I was going to France for xmas, but will cancel tickets right away (shame, had a lovely holiday there this summer).
They travelled through France, thicko
You really think France should keep all refugees and asylum seekers and we shouldn’t take our fair share? Why?
Steve Bellend.
" I was going to France for xmas, but will cancel tickets right away" The French will probably welcome your decision.
If these single men were fleeing war, persecution and oppression Etc … then why have they left their families to face the music, why do they hide their identity by throwing their mobile phones and passports into the sea, Not one reason is given as to why they left their families or their deliberate actions of throwing their passports and mobile devices away, no explanation given to the general public about these things instead we have been left guessing the prospect of murderers, terrorist and rapists roaming our streets.
Boring propaganda parrot
Such a tool u are@@M2Mil7er
@@M2Mil7erWeakest possible retort. Most people qould be embarrassed to write it.
And yet somehow when the small boats sink the dead invariably include women and children?
Maybe they're only filled with single men in the febrile minds of Daily Mail readers?
😁 We're Ruled By Fools and Fooled By Rules😁
He's a WEF prime minister more than a Labour prime minister
White English F....er?
Wes Streeting will spell out his vision for the Health Service later today. He has already been on the NewsAgents podcast stating that he wants a mix of public and private sector involvement. He emphasised the Daily Mail as an advocate for private healthcare. I find that troubling. For me, the Daily Mail spews out poison on a daily basis and I certainly would not like to associate my thought processes with anything that they print.
You should not be bored, pay attention. What's to come will terrify you.
starmer will do whatever he told to do! he has no vision, only the vision of his backers that he duly does without question.
Turning Labour to xupport WEF.
It was a speech that contained nothing at all. Still, there is absolutely no content about what real plans are to be put in place to improve the lives of ordinary people. I think anybody who's interested in all this will be the same as me....Non the wiser I am sad to say. Oh, other than beating Corbyn and transforming the party which we already knew about.
The biggest environmental threat we face is war and the escalation of war! Not to mention the horrendous loss of life!
GB Energy should be a vehicle for domestic electricity customers to invest in renewable generation, essentially a national scale cooperative.
It should also become the owner of the existing gas fuelled power stations so that cost of electricity can be decoupled from gas prices.
A genuine Labour party might have done these things, but not this one.
Its a scam as its not going to be generating energy
He was only elected by default. His main concern is in avoiding anything we may WANT to hear. A lawyer who doesn’t seem to understand the word ‘illegal,’ the very word which would clarify most of our problems.
Good insight into the circus that is now the Labour Party it’s a travesty that they have been put into power it’s depressing can we not somehow resurrect a Tony Benn or a Michael Foot people who were thoughtful had integrity.
He is Prime Minister because he isn't a member of the Conservative Party. That's it. Nothing more.
Nothing to do with Jeremy Corbyn. Nothing to do with me.
The working person working families rhetoric is a dog whistle. He is at war with disabled people and pensioners. If people want and chance of humane treatment for themselves, their loved ones or others then they must learn why this is direction of travel is harming us all and stand up to it.
His speech yesterday was just more huff and puff
Starmer is a fence post tortoise - "You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he's up there, he's elevated beyond his ability to function, and you just wonder what kind of dumb arse put him up there to begin with."
So the Tories did get back in , gotta say Tories know how to do a blinder .
He is much worse than any Tory could be
@@Maugirl2 he is a tory
@@M2Mil7er no he isn’t. He is just a little champagne socialist with a twist of commie mixed in.
Anyone surprised ? After the Corbyn debacle, I saw how it was. VOTE GREEN peeps! 💚
Greens 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@alanfrost4661 your response is political illiteracy
Yes I was told Corbyn wanted Tom Nationalise sausages!
It's hardly a sizzler, not as exciting as a wind turbine!
That pun was the wurst.
A climate change economy would destroy the economy and also be pointless because Britain's emissions are only 1% of the global total. There would be no discernible change in climate.
When I heard Starmer wittering on about electric pylons I felt a twinge of nostalgia for John Major's traffic cones. But then I've always been enchanted by beige.
I'm surprised how on earth people believe this charlatan agent. His demeanor is that of a calculated monster
Sunak won GE for he is competent and has strong leadership skills. Starmer rigged Conservative votes yet 80% didn't vote for Labour. Starmer is unfit to lead. I didn't watch his speech for he makes me feel sick to my stomach.
If Labour screws up, wait for the far-right 'simple solutions' to appear, and just like Brexit, they will unravel with lasting regret. PR is a risk, but the two-party system currently feels tired and is too frightened of the City.
They could play that speech to make criminals confess although amnesty international will claim its torture it was for us
Many public servants have failed us, maybe not the ones on the front lines but certainly the upper echelons of the civil service, NHS, teaching and police. Problem is, the Labour party is all for the ways we have actually been failed, focus on identity and victimhood rather than merit, on dividing society into groups some favoured over others. I fear what Labour see as problems does not align with what most of the population face as problems every day.
I had the same thoughts about Keir Starmer's sister, I would be willing to bet she has more useful ideas on how to run the UK than Starmer came up with.
No idea Keir, boring Grey man in a borrowed Grey suit running a Grey country, you have had years in opposition to come up with a plan, who now has to put his money, borrowed, where is mouth is, Don't hold your breath.
The most important thing to come from the conference is the return of the sausages !
Not in the speech but I saw something saying Labour would go after "benefit cheats". If that really is a priority rather than pursuing all the companies & rich people not paying tax then they are just like the Tories with populist policies rather than substantial change.
Labour's change is transformation into privatisation lite. Choice to pay for public service basic or premium.
We have a millionaire leader for the working class Labour Party what does he know about working class people just shows you the way of the world now 🤮
It says a lot that his speech isn't on the front page of the newspapers, or even listed on my Google feed.
Starmer's father was a tool maker, Starmer is the tool he made, and what a tool he truly is. He's the worst Prime Minister in my history, what a tool.
50 millionth person to make that joke.
Ask his wife...
You really DON'T want your sister to get the same treatment as you its only just started!
The OBR report has blown a hole in mass migration and the effects on our economy driving down the real earnings of working people over the last +25 years.
Not only driving wages down, but generally consuming taxpayer's money
How? How does people coming here to work cost money? And it's employers that control wages, maybe destroying union power wasn't such a masterstroke
Can't wait for your speech
I'm sure he DOES know WHY he's there. Digital ID and CBDC. Just as Rishi was. But he can't say that openly. It's a hard sell to people who don't want it.
Starmer’s speech sounded like a record player running on, on, on,,on,,, because their are multiple cracks in his record !? Cor Blimey....
Don't forget the child benifit cap ..
Shouldnt Labour act to solve child poverty ? I'm from a family of 5 ..I know our mum depended on the money child benifits paid.
Starmer is a member of the not terribly good club.
He is not serving the country he is serving the shareholders all our councils are on Companies house, the police,and our justice put your council name in Companies House into search
As Shaun once said "The party in power in the UK is the Tory party."
Shaun Ryder?
There is no Black Country in him, i just hope we have a mild winter folk's !!!.☃🌂😭.
Be careful there Richard, you’ll have Phil Moorhouse and the Pro Labour political armchair brigade frothing at the mouth in anger for that 🤣🤣🤣