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- The latest update for the Halo 3: ODST Editing Kit now includes DLC maps that were being worked on when ODST got forked from Halo 3, I moved them back to Halo 3! For this video we'll be exploring the levels that were completely cut while the next video will showcase early versions of maps that were finished (such as Citadel, Assembly etc..) which should be out later this week, so stay tuned! :)
Dam 0:00
Dam is a cut DLC map set on the Dam of the campaign mission "Siera 117" but at night time.
Last import date: Feb 27 14:53:15 2008
Beachhead 5:47
Beachhead is a cut DLC map from Halo 3 and was later repurposed for the Halo: Reach map "Tempest"
Last import date: Dec 14 17:39:11 2007
Desecration 8:19
Desecration is a cut DLC map set on High Charity(?), it is focused on vertical level design and features Covenant and Flood designs
Last import date: Jan 29 09:47:16 2008
Landslide 13:07
Landslide is a cut base map set on The Ark, it features 3 bases similar to the ones seen on "Valhalla". The map itself is quite open and seems to be focused on MultI BTB & vehicle play
Last import date: Jun 28 11:01:02 2007
Warthog Inc 16:39
Warthog Inc is a cut base map, it's focused on the Territories gametype. The map is set in a location where the Warthog was built and tested.
Last import date: Jun 28 14:28:29 2007
Anxiety 19:30
Anxiety is a map from Custom Edition made by "Mrs Double Fire" who did contract work for Bungie around the time of Halo 3's development.
Last import date: Jun 27 16:14:43 2007
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Imagine what our lives would have been like and what memories we would have had should these have been the game
I been saying the samething about some of the modded maps people been making that "what I would have given to just have a new DLC map for Halo 3 when I was 15"
The course of history would have been altered and we’d be living on different planets light years assy
I remember digital ph33r complaining that Halo didn't have enough maps (something I didn't agree with), but this would have been exactly what he was asking for.
They should have took the time to add it
I always had the feeling the dam on Sierra was built as a MP play space or with MP in mind. Makes a lot of sense this was going to be a MP map
@@ReachTea isnt it a bit small for invasion?
@@IMFERMO. Nah, I could see it being a good invasion map. It may be small, but it's intricate. The phases of the match would each feel like a tight arena map instead of a typical BTB feeling invasion map, but it would still work.
@@ReachTea Creator of "Sierra Don't Surf" here. Thank you!
Seeing an expanded version of the dam is blowing my mind! So many cool little spots and extra routes, just when I thought the original mission had a bunch already. Some of these would be awesome to add in, but sadly the object limit is already maxed out😭
Desecration has got to be the most interesting cut map to me cause I've never seen such verticality in a Halo 3 map. I think it would fit well in Reach with its jetpacks, which makes me wish it was added alongside Beachhead AKA Tempest.
It would be cool if these maps could polished up and released into MCC so the console players could experience this stuff. I know 343's post about these maps vaguely hinted that this could happen. It was fun goofing around on these maps and it would be a shame if console players didn't get to experience pieces of Halo's history.
It´s not like 343 doesn´t want to, but it´s because they are short on staff.
@@BoviDaze Oh no I totally get that. Luckily the hiring freeze is over so maybe the MCC team can finally get some backup. For now though, they're gonna have to rely on the modders to get these maps into a state where they can be added. Not ideal, but given the circumstances, we just have to play the hand we're dealt.
What I think they're hopeful for is that they can garner enough attention to convince money to flow to their team enough to fund these being worked on further, or if not that then maybe the community can make "final" versions of the maps and they can get in contact about putting those versions into MM kind of like how Infinite is doing with community made Forge maps these days.
We've had about, what, 15 community made forge maps in Infinite already? And they've all been smash hits, one of which is my favorite arena scale map in all of Halo (I'm a BTB man typically). Anyway, with all that success in Infinite's community space in only about 6 months and all the proven talent in the MCC modding scene, I really can't see why they couldn't/wouldn't lean a little on the community to polish these unfinished maps. Which means the modders get to leave a lasting fingerprint on Halo, and on classic Halo on the MCC at that.
That being said, if 343i keeps this up they better start paying something to these community creators, or giving free shit. In Infinite all you get is a free armor coating and visor coating. Not really worth the work since they themselves price these at only $10 on the most expensive in the shop. It's super exclusive, so you could argue it's more of a $20 value, but I'd argue the coatings are overpriced already and should be no more than $3 US at the absolute most. Anyway, MCC is different and should pay actual money if modders are involved in the purchasable product for sure. Infinite could give in-game currency as payment.
Honestly, I get the feeling that these maps won't get properly finished up and properly put in, as cool as it would be, given how unfinished they are. That being said, I could see, at least once more people are on the MCC team again, the Halo Online maps that are original to HO that were released with mod tools recently being properly polished and added. Especially the BTB maps as they honestly deserve to be there.
With these unfinished maps, I would not be surprised if there's already modders putting in work to clean them up
@@slipstreamtechnician2811 id like to imagine Warthog Inc would have a style like Rats/Crows Nest or smth idk
I want to see the Dam map turned into a firefight map, it’s perfect for it.
Before mod tools someone made a cod zombies inspired flood firefight map for halo 3 th-cam.com/video/YsnOahim2Q0/w-d-xo.html
there’s a mod
@@Ticrat15 thats just the normal Sierra 117 version though (slightly modified I know). This is very heavily modified and much bigger
I love the warthog inc idea. Interesting from a lore perspective and could have been a great map combining nice outdoor landscape and industrial setting.
Desecration is rad as hell. I wish it had been finished.
Imagine a game mode where flood spawn infinitely but their kills don’t affect the score between human and covenant teams. It would change the dynamic so much.
Warzone in Halo 5 was good except for the Req system and some of the variants OP effects. If they had only the base or Covenant Banshee as well as everything unlocked for everyone (just had to pay the points in game to use) I think the game mode was brilliant.
They should count as environmental. In halo, if you damage someone and they then die due to environmental damage (falling off a cliff, fusion coil or getting splattered by a random object, killed by map boundaries and guardians) it counts as your kill.
I spent hours exploring that area in Siera 117, it'd be super cool for Infection in particular, so many hiding spots. Landslide feels a lot like one of Forge World's BTB maps, I forget which.
Honestly Desecration feels like it was going to be a map tailor made for Infection. With the verticality, all the tunnels, and the Flood theme. Given Infection was shipped with Halo 3 as well, it would make sense for them to have at least 1 map for the mode so that Forgers could work their magic.
One last comment: thank you. This kind of mysterious content has always been super interesting to me, for Halo 3 specifically. Warthog Inc in particular had felt like an itch I couldn't scratch since the name of it was revealed in metadata extracted from the beta 16 years ago. It feels kind of surreal to see it in action.
Desecration is so strange, it's so unpractically large. Like its this infinitely expanding space that isn't just auto-generated. It's like 3 small arena maps with similar aesthetics seamlessly taped together
I think it was going to be map primarily meant for Infection. The Flood theme, all the tunnels, and the verticality, really seem like it was tailor made for Infection. The size would have allowed Forgers to pick and choose parts of the map to block off and give the survivors time to get to their spots, but also give the infected the room to maneuver with their increased speed and jump hieght and give them multiple angels to attack from. At least that's the feel I got from wandering around the map solo.
It felt like Halo liminal space
Would have been cool if there was a switch that raised/lowered the floodgates on the Dam. Could have made some paths/weapons accessible depending on their position or create an environmental hazard where players get caught in the water and flung off the dam to their deaths in the river below
Hope these get polished up and officially added to MCC. Always thought the dam area from campaign would make a sweet multiplayer map. Really cool we got a lot of maps that no but I wish we got more. Still need “monkey mountain” “pump huas” and “gauntlet”. Hopefully in a future update.
Desecration is really cool
Wow, that first one is so intricate.
Now this is good Halo content
Seeing Tempest in Halo 3 gave me actual chills
Warthog Inc. is a missed opportunity to realize continue joke about golden warthog billboard from halo 2
That temporary bridge on Dam would have been a blast. Shame the map never came to fruition.
Beachhead really showcases how beautiful Halo 3's lighting system is.
It's super cool seeing Dam and finding out Bungie tested out that area at night after having played the Zombies mod for MCC. Honestly would love to see this map repurposed for that mod
Man it's crazy how Bungie basically made no original MP maps for Reach. They pulled all the launch MP maps from campaign playspaces with light changes and then reusing old H3 stuff for one of their last DLC maps. Makes you wonder how much they were really working on Destiny at that time.
you could tell Bungie really didn't want to work on Halo much more after Reach, tbh they didn't after Halo 3
You can't just pull spaces from campaign and have them work in multiplayer. They went to great effort to create spaces that worked for multiplayer/firefight modes while also making sense in the campaign setting. They mention in the Reach developer commentary that it took a lot of work to do and they probably wouldn't attempt to pull it off again in future. It's unfortunate that years later that effort gets reduced to 'they copied campaign, lazy!' by people who simply don't know any better.
I would love so much to see Desecration fully.complete with light ing, background, textures, ambience, etc etc- i bet it would look awesome. Then imagine playing a flood survival mode on it
Out of all of these, Anxiety seems like it has a lot of potential. It just needs some teleporters to replace the overly long side passages that lead to the top part. Maybe a couple grav lift pickups for each team to assault the opposite side with. That tunnel that the Warthog squeezed into seems rather pointless, but perhaps it could be altered into a ramp upwards?
My thoughts on these:
Dam's layout, flow and feel remind me a whole lot of halo 2 map design, and the bridge in the middle changing from gametype to gametype is very much a Halo 2 sort of thing.
Desecration also has the feel of a Halo 2 multiplayer map, and those lifts are almost exactly like the ones chief uses going through Highcharity in Halo 2's campaign.
On Landslide the "zipline" is funny to see because I remember an old Halo 3 dev video talking about them making the mancannons for Valhalla and how early on one of the things they tried where "ziplines", so its funny to actually see the early concept of that after all these years.
Warthog Inc. was for sure and early design because that just screams Halo 2 maps design and layout. some of the textures even look like they might be Halo 2 textures.
I would honestly love to see someone backport Dam, Desecration, and Warthog Inc. to Halo 2 just to see how they feel with that gameplay and in that physics engine.
Seeing beachhead turn into tempest is pretty cool.
I almost feel like they will add these maps to MCC in a later update. After all, this recent update added a butt load of new content.
Very cool maps, makes me wish to see what they would have ended as if they finished them for Halo 3.
One thing I noticed was that most maps felt incredibly large, so perhaps they were geared more so toward BTB than 4v4.
'Beachhead', even in the Reach version 'Tempest', suffers from the beach sections being relatively sparce and tucked away towards the sides, when most players would want to fight down that center section between the two bases, so it seems like the playable map, while actually quite large, ends up with smaller practical play spaces being the focus points. So I can understand how that got reworked into Reach, compared to the other maps here which generally feel too larger for any practical 4v4 match.
It’s amazing how much modding has been able to bring to halo. The amount of restored content is incredible. #bringhalomodstoxbox
Dam is a huge map, would be excellent for BTB without vehicles. I can see the sniper being a bit of a balance issue.
Actually, it seems like all of these cut maps are pretty large. Which is interesting mostly because a lot of the H3 DLC maps were pretty small in comparison.
Warthog inc, the best zombies map we never got
Holy balls this is amazing, thank you for unearthing this!
This would have melted brains if you'd have burned it to a VHS tape, played it on an old TV, and recorded it in 240p
I always wondered what inspired them to add a crashed Longsword on Tempest. It seems like this version was using a ton of assets from The Ark which would've also included it. I wonder if there were any newer builds of it for Halo 3 where they implemented it?
Probaby came from Pillar of autumn considering it's the same ring
I love seeing maps that are normally in the day set in the night!
Warthog Inc looks like it's Headlong-adjacent, with a sprinkling of Lockout. I think that would have become a classic.
In the middle of watching rn, and Desecration, layout wise at least, along with the style of the Covenant architecture, reminds me a hell of a lot of High Charity. Maybe it was supposed to be an MP level that would accompany the original version of Cortana that got cut and replaced by a bunch of stuff from the cut Floodship level? Ngl I'm kinda sad we don't have the original Cortana now if that's the case, because I'm massively digging Desecration, incomplete as it is
Yeah totally thought the same. It almost like after they ended up scrapping the original high charity campaign mission, they dumped the level into a multiplayer map
the first one looks sooooo coool
These maps really feel like advanced Halo: Custom Edition maps. Really interesting stuff!
I spoke too soon! I remember Anxiety!
That "Dam" map reminds me of the "Powerhouse" map from "Halo: Reach".
I'm reminded that Bungie said during the BTS of Reach that they would never again take a campaign playable area and make it a multiplayer map again, because they didn't like how the design philosophy went
@@zalrohglekgolo6149 Interesting. I normally do not like when campaign levels are turned into a multiplayer map, because the overall gaming experience can quickly become stale with overexposure of an environment.
However, (lol) I think I would have enjoyed this a lot as a multiplayer location.
I'd love to see these in matchmaking
These are all so awesome to see, thanks for doing this! So cool to finally see Warthog Inc. after over 15 years of mystery.
I played Anxiety a lot of times, it was a fun map! Dam and
Desecration looks fun too
I always thought a map based off of that dam in sierra 117 would have been amazing.
Desecration looks amazig
Desecration is what I want Halo Infinite's Crystal Caves to be and I still want that to be 4v4 or 8v8 at most. Maybe 4v4v4?
Love your soundtrack choices
Wow, these are all very cool, thanks for posting this vid.
Dam feels like a solid successor to Zanzibar from Halo 2 in terms of size and function. It would have been ideal for 6v6 or 8v8. Not sure why they couldn't get it working. We did of course get Standoff after launch which fills a similar role.
I think the landslide map wzs either a valhahla prototype or the valhalha structures on it were just placeholders before it got scraped.
It would've been amazing if Anxiety had made it to the final game (funny sentence there), having an old school Custom Edition officially make it into original retail Halo 3? Would've held a greater spotlight on the early community there
Oh wait, didn't beachhead become a Halo Reach map? I recognise some of the structures.
Incredible, and thank you
I thought I wouldn't be saying this...but Please 343 finish these maps.
These maps seem very "experimental/early concepts" except for Dam. Bungie likes maintaining symmetry with its map design. Dam seemed like they couldn't agree on a direction for its size and when they got to the point where they kept adding to it, they couldn't make everything work and abandoned the map due to what I could assume were disagreements. However, if completed, it could be a full map. I thing things like Dam, the Halo 2 demo mission, and ODST multiplayer should be added in a future update (especially those last two). You could even take that ODST multiplayer mod map and put that in the game with the update too.
literally better than anything 343i has made lol
We need a custom game browser for mods so workshop content like this has the chance to be utilized by more than a solo curious player.
omg man!!! hope this would be release at some point
Would love to see these polished and released on mcc
I think I would have greatly enjoyed Dam. Hope 343 at least adds Dam and Beachhead into MCC.
I think Landslide looks more interesting than Valhalla, at least to me. It also reminds me of some Halo Gearbox maps.
That first map they made a campaign mod out of it. Saving Sergeant Johnson
No one beleived me.
In 2007 bungie shoeed off "Valhalla" before the beta and mentioned it was a symmetrical map BUT one base was set at the top of a mountain with rockets, the other at the bittom eith sbipers, and tunnles to avoid them. They also showed a topographic map of it which had a river "painted" in saying that the riger woukd cut through the map.
Durkng the beta i was totally flabbergasted by the equal sided layout. I could neve find the post talking about "Valhalla" again.
Its Landslide. I think theyvused inages from landslide and used the top down map that became vahalla. Its the only explanation for what i remember
i hope this maps will remake somebody in halo infinite
The fam always felt like it had potential for a CTF/Assault map
I wonder if some of these maps will work with the pre-release builds? IIRC Delta build or Pimps had a warthog inc map selection but no file was included, could we just point place the .map where the game wants it and potentially it will load...
This proves that reach had good gameplay, but obviously the maps were mostly designed for the halo 3 sandbox
Beachhead looks so much nicer than tempest imo
This would have been an amazing zombies map
These are sick tho
hope these get fixed up and put into matchmaking
deam que ganas de jugarlos
I would have loved to see Beachhead come to 3 instead of Reach. I love the map layout, but I can't stand how it plays in Reach.
shadow mosses Island
Super fuckin' cool
I wish there was a new halo that I enjoyed like 3. Does anyone have an issue with Infinite like stuttering, doesnt look polished, feels like somethings off.
Holy shit. Someone needs to make these into Infinite. Should I send this to Uneeq? Yeah I'm gonna send this to Uneeq.
I'll never understand the obsession with remaking maps in one of the worst Halo games to date.
@@ComradeKoopa Halo 4 takes that title lol.
@@arceusland Yes, it is also "one of."
It's so new, unfinished
Warthog Inc was a massive missed fan favorite