The Story Behind The Tragic Sinking Of The Lusitania | Sinking The Lusitania Docudrama | Timeline
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- Sinking of the Lusitania: Terror at Sea is an English-German docudrama produced in 2007. This 90-minute film is a dramatisation of the sinking of the RMS Lusitania on 7 May 1915 by a German U-boat, U-20.
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"I used to think Govt is there to protect its people but of course it's there to protect itself". Such a profound dialogue that is true for every time and age.
You are forgetting the "government" is made up of fellow citizens. It is not an entity unto itself. Also, the reverse of your statement is true also - the citizens will toss off the government to protect their own interests. It is all the same thing.
As far as Churchill and the Admiralty were concerned it was all about the bigger picture. Sacrificing some on board the Lusitania would cause outrage in the USA, bringing them into the war against Germany. (Which is what eventually happened, the deaths of so many Americans changed public opinion there about joining the war). By having America join it improved the chances of an Allied win and potentially shortened the war, saving lives. In chess you sometimes sacrifice a pawn to win a battle, they basically play chess with lives. Sometimes people or whole armies were sent on 'suicide missions' for 'the greater good'.
@@chairmanofthebored8684 Genral sinister? you mena CRIminal, thoings never change, poeple in Uk keep being criminal
sacrificing millions of lifes just for their interestes.
Germans warned uk, uk used civilinas as mules for wepons, knowing it would end up very badly.
Ended Bad for 2 reason-.
germnas knew ship was carrying wepons.
and it cause a big blast that make it sink
Bye bye fair well.
@@julierobinson3633gree that they wanted America into European wars, but if America misstep on anything, then comes “we blame America” comments nonstop throughout so many documentaries. And, I didn’t know a couple of European countries were so arrogant against America, especially during WW2, until I started reading the comments and news articles about those times. Superpower means little, because once America got involved, the critics were never satisfied, after both world wars. England still criticizes America, because they’re afraid she might get an ounce of credit more than them! This documentary shows the British government arrogance on display. But I’m glad that Captain ultimately retrieved his honor back from them!
@@chairmanofthebored8684you're living in lala land. Unbelievably naive.
This feels more like a film than a docudrama to me, the fact we get to watch it for free makes it all the more special so thanks Timeline
This is no docudrama but a real and full feature filmproduction and a dramatization "based on true events" but presented through the lenses of a history TH-cam channel.
In the wikipedia-page about The Sinking of the Lusitania they used the word 'docudrama' incorrectly. This is a feature film, presented worldwide in theatrical release in the "cinema".
It's no documentary with several reactment scenes because there is never a voice-over documentary narrator... This is a full feature film.
The fact that the actors managed to convey a sense of surprise and regret from the German captain is astounding to me. That scene did seem like they weren't expecting for it to sink so fast and therefore took more lives than they are willing to have on their conscience. The acting is top-notch.
Cpt Schwieger already noted at the time that he didn´t expect the Lusitania sink (so fast), as torpedos were relatively weak and had little effect on such a big ship. He expected the ship to limp, maybe to be tugged to port, or if then sinking slowly. It was the second explosion (by the carried ammunition), not by the torpedo, which sent the ship down.
@@OpalBLeigh right, but the Germans new (or suspected) about it, and, in fact, the Lusitania was listed as an "auxilliary cruiser" in the navy. The sister ship Mauretania served as a troop transporter at the same time. The British had created a win-win situation for them (by breaking naval and war law) - either the Germans shyed away from sinking the ship, then they could carry contrabande - or they would attack it, then civil casualties would be blamed on Germany. Thet´s the British war style
top notch indeed, notice 1:12:46 johnston is on the background right, surprised as he notices that captain turner has survived
The English intentionally put passengers and munitions on cruise liners in order to be able to point and the Germans and say "war crime look" the Brits literally didn't care about the civilians.
@@riccardodececco4404 when in war, laws and conventions become “suggestions” for both sides
It's worth noting that the Lusitania sank in only 17 minutes, versus several hours for the Titanic. Considering the rapidity of her sinking, it is remarkable that so many lives were saved.
Lusitania was unable to stop due to loss of steam pressure and her speed was forcing more water into the hull at a much faster rate.
They didnt have time on the ship but they had more time in the water to survive. Empress of Ireland had the worst of both as well. all 3 of those shipwrecks happened within 3 years and all rank top 10 deadliest shipwrecks to this day. RIP to all victims of the Seas
It was just 2 hours and 40 minutes. That's not several. Several is like 4 hours.
@@ameliawilder28 Before you correct someone you might want to look up the word you are correcting them on next time. Several literally means :"More than two but not many", Or :"Three or Four". Three IS "Several".
The water was warmer in lusitania sinking than titanic as well
This was a fantastic film, I wasn't expecting something with such a high calibre of quality in the writing, acting and sets, really quite terrific. Not that anybody cares what I have to say, but very well done!
@Roy McGregor mmm
Your comment got me to give it a chance. I ended up watching it all and it was more than worth the 1.5 hrs of my life. Educational and entertaining.
Your opinions are very valuable,precisely because they are yours,never let anyone say otherwise.
No need to discount the importance of your opinions :)
There is a reason for that. It, and the other videos one the channel, are made professionally for British TV. They’ve all been on one of the British tv channels at some point. This TH-cam channel holds the licence to upload them (in some countries).
I love that the guy from the Mummy movies is in this, very well acted and very emotional documentary. RIP to those who perished.
Lol I thought that was Jonathan!!
Man that's Batiatus, you got to see him in Spartacus Splendid Movie Series Ever!!!
@@bigavel165 Jupiter's 🍆
Nah man that is our boy Cadbury from Richie Rich
In the Mummy, he was the brother of a historian, and now he has finally become a historian! 😊
As a merchant marine cadet in New London, CT at the beginning of WW II. my father's curriculum included detailed discussions of tragedies at sea; the Lusitania was one. It was obvious to the entire class that a torpedo could not be solely responsible for the sinking, but the presence of munitions aboard was still officially denied. He would be more than pleased to know that the truth is finally public. Thank you for this well produced and even handed documentary.
There was a second explosion, probably the result of coal dust in an empty bunker. Nothing has been found in subsequent explorations of the wreck which was not on the official manifest. This did, by the way, include small arms ammunition, but nothing larger.
Recently, under sea exploration found the Lusitania carried some of the components for making ammunition.
@@varschnitzschnur8795 Nothing has been found in Lusitania which was not declared on the manifest.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 correct.
@@dovetonsturdee7033 let me guess, British divers?
Some of you might be happy to know that Avis Dolphin lived to be 94. In the real sinking, she was put aboard with her two nurses. The boat capsized, and the two nurses died but she lived.
The nurses Hilda and Sarah's bodies were never found.
Brilliant, I'm glad to that thanks, Colin.
I've not seen this, before, I should say I'm sorry of the too nurses, but she survived, ? Great.
@@colinrunciman5166 Yes. As depicted in the film she lived and remained friends with the professor for many years. You can look her up and see her pictures on the internet. Apparently she lived a long and happy life.
93 actually she was born on August 24, 1902 and died on February 6, 1996. 6 months before she would turn 94. She remained a friend with Ian until his death in 1935. He even wrote a book for her titled "The Child of the Moat" after she had told him that books written for girls were to boring. She married Thomas Foley in 1926 a journalist that she had met while visiting Ian Holbourn.
Brilliant, my grandfather died from pneumonia helping survivors from the sea at Queen’s Town. R.I.P.
My uncle was torpedoed by U 666 which was carrying GNAT's (German Navy Acoustic Torpedoes) they could only be used when the target was moving. The Itchen stopped dead in the water to pick up 76 Canadian sailors from RCN destroyer St. Croix but she was torpedoed two days later, the entire crew and the St. Croix survivors were killed, only two were saved. The Admiralty's response, silence, to this day, only a film *"The Cruel Sea"* . !!!
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@@Rubin_Schmidt I hope your uncle got a lot of 🐱 in his lifetime.
I found this video while I was waiting for the bathroom to heat up so I can take a shower ..... suddenly I realize I've been sitting on the edge of my tub watching this movie 44 minutes so far. Such a great film! I will take an intermission to shower lol
lol
Hurry go shower !! I have just started it and the comments are all positive 😊
I can relate lol I was sitting on the toilet for over 30 minutes watching it as well lol
I did exactly the same. Enthralling movie.
That not the Titanic
I expected a simple documentary with simple CG animations but I never expected a high-quality/big (looks like it) budget dramatization. Everything is top-notch: acting, scripting, direction, special effects, etc.
This is a real feature film, presented on a TH-cam documentary channel... It was not made as a docudrama movie😗.
my great great grandfather survived Lusi's sinking. He worked for Cunard and was luckily on deck when the Torpedo struck. He lost a friend who was down in the cargo hold prepping for docking the next day. A eletric elevator was the only way in and out of the hold, and after the 2nd explosion, the men lost eletric and the ability to escape. I never got to meet him as he died 6 years before I came to be, ive read his 26 page account of his memory of that day. Could tell it bothered him, some of the sights of that day could bring a tear to your eye with the pain in all if his words. RIP to all who lost their lives on that May afternoon in 1915.
p.s. my GG grandfather also survived the sinking of Andrea Doria, though as a passenger and much less stressful, along with not as much of a rush.
Are you sure he was your great great and not just great grandfather ?
@Cristian M depends how old OP is. My great grandfather was a ship's stoker in the first 2 decades of the 1900s and I'm 36, plus he had my grandad a little later in life than usual, and my grandad was mid 30s before my mum was born, so it could easily be OP's great great grandad, especially if the great grandad was already born in 1915. Bigger families back then meant people were still having kids sometimes when their eldest was already working so generational distinction can be a bit confusing. I went thru all this when doing my family tree since both my maternal grandparents were the youngest child with considerably older siblings and parents who had them in later life.
Wow that’s insane
Small world huh?
Would you consider scanning and uploading his account online for people to view? I know that I personally would love to read a first hand account, but I understand if this isn't something you're comfortable with. 😊
That is interesting! My great great grandfather helped do repairs on the Lusitania right before it left New York City on its ill-fated final voyage and he saw how poorly prepared many of its parts were which he knew made that ship a death trap. He tried to warn many people about it too, but not enough listened to him.
Everyone who was had a apart in making this should be very proud it was very well done.
@Dondolf Trumpler omb ace fighter pilot I don't know where you went to Film school but you should get your money back.
Amazing film. Beautifully done.
*a part
Two words, in this context.
I appreciate the duality that is shown between the Lusitania, the U-20 Submarine, along with it’s sailors.
Yes, that is a magnificent quality. It greatly illustrates how any glittering surface of a ship saloon must have some underbelly of trivial technology and how this dichotomy - connected, as it is, with economic and because of that also national inequalities - can plausibly go awry.
you really think that the Germans sank this ship? in 1917 the Germans got rid of the Russians coz Russians didnt want to fight them (the revolution) and they could focus all their power on the western front, so you think all of a sudden they would be so dumb to get the USA into fight? It was the UK that was alone then and wouldn't prevail. So they got the USA into war
They felt guilty - they knew they were set up.
I wish all documentaries were done like this. So incredibly well done
Me too! And even greater, this one doesn’t blame America for anything, so this was well done. And the captain regained his honor, because it wasn’t his fault! ❤
I'm about 1/3 the way through and I just love this production. The amazing Scottish narrator, and the brilliant acting. It's just amazing thank you all who were involved in the making of this. :D
@1973 thunderbirds Well I'm Irish, and he's definitely Scottish :)
I really appreciate that the German characters actually speak German in this.
@@rascalferret CC is not a translator. It compares the sound to a word in the English language.
I don't, because I don't understand the language. I'm still reading the subtitles in English - so what's the point?
@@RTD553 Authenticity. There are plenty of languages I don't understand either but I simply can't take it seriously when I'm watching for example the hunt for the Red Octobre, and instead of the captain speaking Russian he speaks English with a slight Scottish accent....
@@pieterveenders9793 Agreed that the accents can be a problem.
Wasn't the U boat set the same as used in the 1979 movie 'das boot'...it looks very similar
Perhaps 20 years ago, I spoke with a Lusitania survivor, whom I knew from visiting the same coffee house, at Peet's Coffee & Tea, in Menlo Park, California. She told me that she was a toddler, when she embarked on the cruise with her parents (of modest means). She still had vague recollections about the confusion on board the sinking ship, and her own rescue with people who worked together to get her to safety.
" I used to think a Government was there to protect its people, but of course, it's there to protect itself"
- Professor Ian Holbourn
Passenger of the Lusitania
Smell the coffee.
Even more true today!
Sounds awfully familiar in the days of 2022 as well doesn't it.
Definitely true today
Agree
I find it ironic that whilst the story of "Titanic" has been told and retold many times and is undoubtedly a disaster, the sinking of the "Lusitania" has been largely forgotten or glossed over. Remember that "Titanic" took approximately Two and a half hours to sink and the "Lusitania" just 18 minutes...! Appalling that The British Admiralty were, like all branches of governments worldwide, keen to ensure that they bore no responsibility for the disaster, instead making the hapless captain of the doomed liner, almost solely to blame. History has now proven that the Lusitania did indeed carry munitions, and furthermore that The Admiralty refused to provide escort for the vulnerable liner. It has been claimed that Winston Churchill First Lord of The Admiralty at the time, was heard to exclaim, " Thank God, now the Americans will have to join the war..!" Perfidious Albion..!!
Churchill was real pos 💩🤮💩
People give Churchill too much credit. There were numerous occasions where he sacrificed people just for the sake of it essentially. I do not look back on him as a hero, a statesman or a patriot.
we know now almost 99% sure that the lusitania was sacreficed to get the US people's opinion to make the us government justify entering the war
Same with the USS Love Liberty.
@@DonBean-ej4ou In Britain its been said that an event which brings an ally into a war is as good as winning a battle. I'm also sure other nations have said this.
I find the story of Ian Holbourn and Avis Dolphin touching amongst this tragic and politically unstable story. The professor had no daughters of his own and for a time he was all Avis had for a guardian, hence why she was allowed to see him in hospital, as it took a while for her grandparents to find her. They helped each other through their trauma, which cemented their 20 year bond.
I wish people jumping into water were smarter. Doesn't everyone know you have to strip down to your skivvies? The weight of your clothes will cost you too much energy, of which you are going to need every ohm. And those skirts! In lifeguard training, we practiced undressing while treading. I mean, I have been in a canoe that swamped, but that is no big deal. They float, and you can turn them over and climb back in. You don't need to strip down in every situation, but if you're going to try to rescue someone, you can't have the additional drag. Or if you're going to have to swim a long way.
@@quickchris10 You have to understand swimming as a life saving skill or even emergency drills and safety information were *not* a thing back in those days. People were quite ignorant in those times about how to save themselves. I'm not qualified to tell you why just that we can't blame them for ignorance since it took tragedies like this to make people rethink how they view life-and-death situations, but the first step is "destroying" a common held belief of safety. Their biggest problem was their belief that they were safe from being fired upon, just like how the belief that the Titanic was unsinkable. If you take away that kind of thinking, people WILL start taking safety and survival more seriously.
@Dorsey Hearnsberger @Jasper Acre ........and why exactly are y'all hacking your "friends" Facebook pages??? You sound like terrible friends.
I found the depiction of the relationship between the young girl and professor a bit disturbing. 🤷♂️
@@LynxStarAuto Well you can relax, there's no proof of anything but parental love from the Professor to Avis. He didn't have any daughters, so she was nothing but a daughter to him. He would be what we would call a godfather today.
What a beautiful documentary. Such a tragic loss of life. I was impressed by the work they put into it. It sounded like they actually used German actors for the U-Boot scenes.
They at least used actors without accent, tho two things are a bit array. First the subtitles are kinda off (not horrible but they paraphrase a bit too much for me) and second (tho this is a pet peeve for me) the Germans should have had northern accents because that is where the majority of German sailors were from back then.
@@brabhamF1 yeah that's true. They sounded more like Southern Germans. Overall they did great though. Not only for the German actors but also for the Scottish :)
@@MairiVoorhees that's a very cool avatar you have. Did you use an app for that?
@@brabhamF1 I think German boys joined the Uboot force for muchthe same reason as American boys do. Adventure. I just finished a book "Sharks and LIttle Fish" tho it was a novel the abook was autobiographical to a large degree. (He was from Berlin)
@@MairiVoorhees who know.
A superbly acted and produced period drama. You feel the enormity of the human tragedy unfolding during and after the sinking. And when you grow to hate a screen character like the British Admiralty's Capt. Hobbs, you suddenly realise that's because the actor playing Hobbs' role is so damn good.
I never thought I'd feel bad for a U-Boat captain before, really...I mean, aside from "They sank to the bottom and suffocated' stories or the like. THAT'S awful no matter who you are. This was a very different tale, to my mind. They wanted "to show the flag" by laming the giant ship before returning to port, and instead they got to watch the thing go down in under 20 minutes. They wanted to 'count coup' on a ship too large to damage with their one remaining torpedo, and instead caused one of the most notable/visible humanitarian tragedies of all time. And it's not even like a u-boat carries more than two life rafts or some such...plus we (as the Allies) were generally known to bomb u-boats even when they radioed in for help on behalf of the ship they'd sunk, so they knew they could do nothing except "Die Pointlessly" to try to help passengers.
Plus, it really was seemingly quite near the coast, they were probably quite concerned for the passengers but thought that at least MOST would survive long enough to be helped. But...yeah, so I felt bad for those guys, even, and I did not ever expect to. "Woo, let's make their hull ring a bit and scare them good before we skulk back home with our 'one fishing vessel and two transport ships' scorecard...panicking the Lusitania for a bit will be a nice pip to mark down, don't you think?
...what do you mean by 'she's already down'?"
Never expected to be SO deeply affected by this as I was. I had ancestors on the ship ~ a great uncle, his wife and children (3) ~ who appear in the passenger lists 'online'. Wonderful film which puts this great Cunarder's tragic loss in perspective for sure.
I, too had ancestors on the Lusitania. George Edward Stokes, his wife Mabel and young son George. They all sadly perished. Excellent drama/documentary.
i cant imagine how terrible it woul've been to be stuck in the lift with the water pouring inside knowing you'll drown or freeze to death. its petrifying to think about it.
Who goes into an elevator while the ship is sinking?!
"Oh the stairs are for the lower classes"
Well, that water wasn’t really fatally freezing, but it was definitely terrifying how people got trapped in the Lusitania’s elevators because she sank in only 18 minutes and thus lost power real quickly so those elevators really did get stuck and wouldn’t open and everyone who was in them went down with the ship.
Best Timeline ever. Better than "Titanic" in so many ways. Incredible effects too. No soap opera BS. This rates some kind of award for high drama.
There are several Titanic Timelines. The one on the Addergoole 14 was superb, and provided a different insight to the tragedy.
The Titanic Movie "A Night to Remember" is basically the James Cameron "Titanic" without the stupid Romance.
@@machscga6238 It was VERY British too.
@@machscga6238 wwww
Except it's *NOT* the Titanic at the bottom of the Atlantic!
It's the Olympic!
Catastrophically keel-damaged in a sea collision, swapped with the Titanic, and sunk for banksters....and by banksters! *TYRANNY NEVER SLEEPS*
Sad thing is, the sinking of the Lusitania was pushed aside as the war heated up, although it was a bigger disaster than the sinking of the Titanic, which garnered a lot more attention in it's time.
More people died on titanic
@@Band-maid-fan101 Yes but this was a deliberate act by humans, it was not an accident. That in a way do make it bigger.
@@Band-maid-fan101rue but not by much (feels weird saying as 1 human life to me is much) but the Lusitania lost nearly 1200 passengers and the Titanic estimates 1500. I just feel that the sinking of the Lusitania was gruesome, they simply never had a chance 😢
@@OweNoManAnythingThe sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff was even worse with 10.000 death, yet barely anyone knows of it.
It's because all the other shipwrecks happened during times of war and they didn't tell people about it because it would've killed their morale even more.
This was one of the best documentaries I ever watched. I wasn’t really aware of the drama of that story. The whole documentary is almost like the famous Titanic movie. Incredible effort was put on this production.
Captain Dow was captain of the Lustitania,he was on leave ,and Turner took over the ship ,it was sunk. Dow had warned the cunard liner company. Dow was a friend of Mark Twain and was also my great grand father.
So Captain Dow blamed Captain Turner for the sinking of the Lusitania?
@@runenummedal6957 After I've read about the USS Indianapolis it makes sense why the captain always goes down with the ship, because if you live you get criticized and falsely accused for the rest of your life.
Thanks for the info.
💔💞🙏
He wasn’t on leave though, he had left.
He captained the Lusitania before Turner, but he didn’t like the idea of ammunition being cargo on a passenger ship. There was an incident before the final voyage in which a U-boat was waiting near Liverpool for her, and there was a squabble over whether or not the ship was getting an escort. It was so stressful that it hastened his stepping down from being her captain.
My Grandfather was a Marconi man at the time and received the Lusitania‘s S.O.S.
The ship was gone by the time they got there but it still must have been a horrific sight.
Do you know which ship it was that he was the radio man on?
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACY I‘m afraid I cannot recall
Thank you for this heart breaking production. Growing up I vividly recall my Grandmother crying and was told never to ask her why she was upset. Her Uncle was an Officer on the Cunard Line was technically on leave, he was was responsible for the Communication On but he Ship. The assigned Officer was sick and he was called back to work. His name was Lionel Briggs. He went down with the Ship and his body was never found. Initially his name was not on the employee list furnished by Cunard Line to the British and Irish Governments. It was eventually rectified but many years passed, my Grandmother never got over his death. My thoughts are Governments do not always do the correct thing, hopefully we can all learn from the past.
Peace and light to my Great Uncle’s Spirit and to all the souls that were lost that day. Amen
She never got over the death of an UNCLE and cried for him through her entire life? That seems very strange and doubtful.
@@Celisar1 How so? Uncles can be very important. One of mine basically set the trajectory of my whole life.
The captain cannot be blamed for this. Anyone who should of protected his ship failed him.
I agree but please use could've or could have. Could of, would of etc... is utter nonsense. Think about it. Could of? That's not English and I see it all the time.
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l Thank you
The real people to blame are the ones who allowed the Lusitania to be launched so poorly prepared. My great great grandfather helped do repairs on the Lusitania right before it was launched on its ill-fated final voyage and he saw that many parts of it were in bad shape which made it a death trap.
Should *HAVE
@@DANIELLE_BREANNA_LACYthe real ones to blame are Churchill and those of the admiralty who order the Lusitania to slow down in sub infested waters. They also called off their escort ship to ensure it was vulnerable.
The sound in the lift is creepy.
The story of Avis and Mr holbourn is touching.
All I could hear when he boarded the ship was "No, Jonathan!" Maybe I've watched The Mummy trilogy too many times...
LOL!!
That was my first thought as well.
I am remember that guy from the Mummy to and the Spartacus tv series.
@@MorrowindES17 3
Or _Dracula._
This was one of the best, informative, films I have ever seen. Everything from top to bottom was perfect. It had a perfect timeline with just the right amount of information to move it forward. I like how it starts and ends with the same persons explanation. Super, super documentary, you should all take a bow.
Take a bow?? Me? Why? I'm really happy that you enjoyed the thing, but please, let us all out of it. We don't have to like it just because you did.
Documentary? Why do people think that. This is a movie...with a misleading title.
This was an amazing documentary. The actor telling the story knocked it put of the park.
It’s the actor who played Jonathon in the Brendan fraiser mummy movie.
Surprisingly, I was REALLY into this, when that mom tries to get on the lifeboat, slips off and smacks her head I was so heartbroken.
I was just thinking how bad people jump when they are in panic. And how bad a skirt isnt helping when you need to jump. That they slept on deck was a smart move.
Her lost her husband and son as well 😭
She did her best and still suffered loss
she was loosely based on a real life passenger named Emily Anderson.
@@piterkool yes the weight of the skirts and the way they would tend to tangle around the legs would have doomed many of the women. They wouldn't have been able to try and swim to a lifeboat even if there had been room for more.
An absolutely beautiful documentary! I couldn’t stand the scrutiny the captain was put under though! Awful! Just awful! The government is only looking out for itself! Not its people!
@Abcity exactly right & I was mad about the movie basically making E.J. Smith look like he was the villain & like he was the ☝🏻 calling all the shots but in truth it was Bruce with the company who were making all the decisions.Actually E.J. was seen by many trying to help everyone board the lifeboats especially the children & he was begging the boats to come back but they didn’t.Him & Mr Andrews were actually last seen going into the water together.
Yeah from what I understand the captain of the Lusitania heeded all Uboat warnings and put his ship on zig-zag pattern.
What happened was that while zig-zagging, she was pulling away from a Uboat, but then she changed course again, which put her squarely within the Uboat's crosshairs at almost optimal firing range.
It was literally just rotten luck.
The British Government - and particularly the War Office - bore full responsibility for the demise of the ship. It was they who decided to carry ammunition, shells and explosives on board (an illegal act for a passenger vessel).
Turner did his best in the circumstances 👏
You are absolutely correct and to think the Brits called the germans barbaric but u. All actuallities it was and is the Brits who where barbaruans they could of sent a destroyer to escort the lusitania since they knew she was carrying munitions for the troops.
The admiralty wanted nothing more than to have the guns sink the ship cause in the feeble minds they thought America would declare war as soon as they heard of the sinking. Had Teddy Roosevelt been the president instead of the President Wilson the Quaker then T.R. would of declared war back in 1914 and the Lusitania would of never been sunk cause she would of had an escort of no less than 9 TIN CANS..
Captain Turner was a legend.
This docudrama was well produced and directed, and with an excellent cast. Heck, it's better than some Hollywood releases lately. :o)
"I used to think a Government was there to protect it's people. But of course, It's there to protect it's self." -Truth
The UK serves the needs of the establishment and that's it. Prolific Paedophiles walk free from court, but if you defraud the tax payer you will almost certainly get a custodial sentence.
🇯🇲🇯🇲😳 wow my friend history have a lot to tell and you can learn from it 👍👍👍
Stay away from the jabs! They're meant to kill!
I want to know how many people noticed that Walther Schwieger was played by the same actor who plays Daniel Kahnwald in Dark and Rudolf Lanz was Aleksander Tiedemann (also in Dark).
Governments are currently killing off their people. The global cartel are their masters now.
This presentation made me cry real tears. Although I’ve known of the ship, I never knew what happened to it until now. This was very well presented and although a lot of drama for effect was used, the story told was very emotional but direct. In my opinion, of course.
Of course it had to be written as a drama, and everything is guessed what was going on. A green crew so do not know what to do in launching the boats.
sounds like cunard skimping on money hence the titanic it all went wrong and cunard was caught out on their skimping CALLED WANT FOR MONEY by cunard board and investors cunard went to sea to save face and themselves.
"4 out of 39 babies"
RIGHT IN THE FEELS
That part really got me, that and the 35 of 129 children
I love this video and I find it incredibly accurate to only one thing being a bit wrong. The u-boat they keep showing was not a type u-19, but a type VII-C, which didn't exist until WW2.
Cool catch TY! My guess is that is they only thing the BBC could find that would float for the live-action shots....?
@@jaytea3299 might be recycled clips from a ww2 documentary.
I think that's fair enough, they did the best they could for the budget. I heard it is the set used to film Das Boot.
I was actually wondering if it was a Type VII but I only know ehat Type VII and IX look like a d Gato so I figured either that is a type VII or they were based on what U-20 was. Good to see I do recognize a type VII. Although they are quite distinct.
Annie Kelly's case was the most touching one. She was deported because of a heart disease. And she was among the victims and was never found.
I wasn't expecting this to be a reenactment movie, and found myself being drawn into the plot of a serious war crime tragedy, where the regular folks suffered the most. Regular folks do not start wars, its only evil-minds that plot destruction based on their desires and abuse of power. Still, it is said the Germans had warned civilians of the war, but seems no one realized the consequences of not listening. We act the same way today and will ignore threats. Sad, indeed.
The german embassy warned people with newspaper articles at the same front page of newspapers where the llusitania travel was advertised. soe very passenger knew what may happen if they travel in a wae zone. because the british used the Q- ships( U Boat traps, i. e. armed merchant ships disguised as neutral ships the germans were forced to change the way of U-Boat warfare. the british calculated the germans will sink a passenger ship with american passengers and boom "big brother will enter the war!
and ask what have been the 37 tons "white cheese" in the frontcargo bay.
Regular people do incite, create the causes for a war
@@marmara9741 not really since they don't have the means to actually start and carry out a war, or an insurrection. Any rabble rousing you see is used as an excuse for what leaders have already decided to do. Just like blm riots resulted in no blowback but Jan 6th resulted in major blowback. Just for a recent example. Makes you wonder doesn't it. And if it doesn't make you wonder that should make you wonder that you don't wonder.
Ignore threats...whats the alternative...allow someone else to determine what can and cant be done or stand up to the bullys of the world?
No war crime at all.
It may be interesting to know that the inside of the submarine used here is the same as in the famous German movie "Das Boot". Also the story of Voegele, who disobeyed the order to sink the Lusitania, is just a legend. There was no one of that name on U-20 and nothing of that sort ever happened. However at the time this movie was made it was believed to be true
What amazing lack of religion those critters in German subs had in both wars.
No conscience, even with Bible people
as neighbors and common farmers, business owners, and fellow countrymen/women. Important to include Voegele, as you indicate, as a
speck of decency aboard this sub .
@@robertknowles2699 Religion killed more people than all submarines of both wars combined.
My family sailed with survivors of the Lusitania aboard the HMS Balmoral Castle, the fear they faced is described well in a book written by my great aunt.
Wow !!! Impressive..
This movie about The Lusitania was fantastic! I loved everything about it, and believe it or not, I'm going to watch it again right now. I love it, and Thank You for uploading it for all of us to enjoy! It was greatly appreciated to say the least!
One of THE best on the subject I have ever seen. (now 61 yrs)
RIP to the 1000 souls lost at sea!! Truly heartbreaking 💔 🕊🕊🕊
The acting in this program makes you feel like you are there.
Holy cow, what a great movie. Couldn’t step away!
Documentary. Don't forget it's true.
@@tracyfrederick5606 still a movie because the whole thing was a dramatisation.
@@tracyfrederick5606 docudrama. It’s not real when it’s so heavily scripted.
@@jaybee4118 true
We’ve all come to an agreement, and that makes me happy. Good day to all.
This was a great film/documentary. So many lives lost is so sad 😢😢
It is. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I agree... They put a lot of information into this short documentary. Then left you with more questions than answers.
Yes
And it is just past the 108th anniversary of the day this tragic sinking happened.
This is just as good as the Titanic Movie. Whoever made this well done i was glued to the screen!
The professor and Avis becoming friends was beautiful.
Grown man talking to a random little girl in this decade just ends with the man in jail, on on a list.
I have more than 50 years experience of Britain and its government. I can honestly say that this production is a really good example of the way the British state works, to this day.
Not just the british govt.... all govts. And the naysayers can eat something brown.
All governments
It wasn't until _1983_ that the British finally admitted that the Lusitania was carrying munitions.
Basically waited for statue of limitations and a long enough time for family unable to sue.
This is key to t he whole thing. The Germans knew what the ship was carrying, voiced numerous warnings beforehand, and still the ship sailed - during a WORLD WAR. Crazy.
@@ministryofanti-feminism1493 It's a dirty trick but with a double whammy.
Either the munitions were successfully delivered or it got attacked with civilians onboard.
But wait there's more... what if they purposely put munitions onboard to trigger an international outrage?
In any case they sacrificed those people.
@@cyphaborg6598 Highly likely. Good input.
Because that was how independent England behaved
Excellent film filled with the honesty that those poor souls both lost at sea & destined to live a lifetime with the horrors deserve to have told.
I'm only 47, growing up on the East Coast living close enough that the beaches of MD & Delaware were my frequent playgrounds I often have played with the watch towers in the background. Whwn I was young these visits often included my grandfather & grandmother who fought in this war. Later taken my own children to see these towers dotting the Coastline Between Ocean City MD & Cape Henlopen DE. We've attended historical events that allowed my son to actually climb on the equipment displayed there & learn a bit more. No matter how many exhibits I have attended, memorial plaques I have read, or stories my grandparents told, NOTHING that brought as much awareness as this has. It's November, 2 days before Thanksgiving & too bitterly cold here for a stroll on the beach or a watch tower visit given the chronic pain I live in. A somber visit to these towers I will make anyway.
The Lusitania reminds me a lot of the Titanic. Both these ships seem to foster a lot of hubris and a sense of invincibility. Very good movie!
And they both had George William Beauchamp as a stoker during their ill-fated maiden voyages.
"In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."
Right!!!!!
So said Winston Churchill
That elevator scene is pretty haunting...
elevator like you see on Tower of Terror.
The ship was carrying a huge amount of munitions (classifying it as a war vessel) that exploded when the torpedo hit, causing the ship to sink in 15 minutes, rather than hours.
Yes, and it had hidden canons, the admiralty alwys sent escorts for passenger ships, this time they didn't end they were perfectly aware of sub activity on that day, etc, etc... what's a few lives to get the US involved, Churchill knew that unless the Americans joined in Britain was lost. Self inflicted wounds are still used today, like J.P. Morgan once said: "A man always has two reasons behind his actions, a good one and the real oine".
@@rosesandsongs21 “hidden canons”…i don’t think so….
Yeah they should never have been carrying munitions on a passenger ship. I’ve never heard of this ship until this. Why wasn’t this made into a movie he than the titanic ship? This documentary is really amazing though! Better than Hollywood style. Interesting it mentioned the titanic.
@@rosesandsongs21 First of all coal dust explosed not munitions (they still lie in the holds undamaged).
And second of all guns had not been installed and when ocean liners did carry guns they where certainly not hidden. RMS Olympic received 6 inch guns and they were quite visible. As was her dazzle camouflage clearly marking her as a ship of war. Her sister ship HMHS Britannic served as a hospital ship and carried no guns. Not that they would have helped her and neither did her protected status as a hospital ship. Mines are indiscriminate killers. Child, soldier, cruiser or ocean liner. The mine exploded when contacted by mass. It does not differentiate.
@@jessicajarsak7812 I think it was made into many movies but the one that would really deserve a movie was the sinking of the Wilhelm Gustloff by a Russian sub on 30th January 1945. The ship was carrying fleeing refugees, prisoners, German military and all kinds of staff. THIS is the worst maritime disaster in history with about 11,000 passengers on board, there were 9,500 victims, Lusitania and Titanic had about 1,500 each. The rules say that when military personel are on board the ship becomes a legitimate target, no matter the number of civilian victims... debatable. Another hidden fact of the war, interesting research though.
this film had me glued to the seat of my pants. so sad that so many children died as well as their mothers. was especially sweet that the professor and Avery became friends for the rest of their lives. I have the book at home. quite a story
Worst thing about all of this is that it's a True Story / Shocking and Disgusting.
It actually isn't. It's a highly fictionalized account, i.e., propaganda.
@@joannebutzerin6448 how?? can you explain, According to you sinking of lusitania was a fictional propoganda. Which crack are you smoking??
@@joannebutzerin6448 But the ship being torpedoed is true. maybe there is a hidden reason why it sank so fast. But being bomb/torpedoed whatever you called by a german u-boat is true irregardless.
My girl Avis refused to abandon her bonus pudding lmao
priorities
p
Considering the warnings and disaster situation and his accusal. Captain Turner was a fine Captain doing his best from what was the worst situation that can befall a cruise ship!
It wasn’t a cruise ship. The British admiralty admitted in 1983 that this ship did indeed transport ammunition for the war.
You cannot call the Lusitania, the Titanic or the Mauritania cruise ships. They were ocean liners. Ocean liners performed the same service that was gradually taken over by airliners in the 1960's for inernational transportation (be it business imigrants or other people and hauling freight and mail). As a crucial part of the transportation system, they were the 747s and A380s of their day.
@@Celisar1 Yeah, the Lusitania was really a war vessel disguised as an extremely luxurious civilian liner and scuba divers have even found remains of those munitions inside the Lusitania’s wreck.
as a native german speaker i have to say great acting and okey translation could be more exact but all in all great documentary...
sometimes the translations are changed to make the text fit on screen
Nothing changes much ..manipulation of evidence,people and the media , reputations protected and the masses treated as superfluous.
Here here !
I just finished watching a documentary about the Kursk sinking in Russia. Same story.
I wonder who the real people are that are behind these things. Somebody must know.
Wonderful quality, great acting and solid factual information. Well done
the killer of the Lusitania, Schwieger was killed in action on 5 September 1917. His U-boat U-88 was sunk by the British Q-Ship HMS Stonecrop.
I found this and hit play, expecting a narrated documentary and what I got was so much better. What a beautiful piece of work. Thank you.
This is a masterpiece
Corruption has always been around and always will be. Sad to say...
Good documentary💗🙏🙏
1:04:23 respect to him for jumping in the water immediately save the girl he didn't even bother to put on a life jacket before he jumped in
Love how they brought this whole thing back to life. Bittersweet.
This actually brought tears to my eyes.
Vanderbilt’s body was not found for days. The screams of the drowning people was heard plainly on the Irish shore, helpless.
Screams heard on shore from eight miles out? Perhaps from boats drifting within a couple of hundred feet.
Clifton Dean that is what the Lusitania museum and memorial states. The mist had gone, the sea was calm. The sound carried. The same is stated about the pose trapped in the Mary Rose when she went down. Henry VIII and the Captains wife heard it from the shore. During a program on the finding and raising of the ship a boatman was asked if it were possible and he emphatically said it was.
@@cliftondean4333 sound actually travels very well across water.
In Jack London's novel, 'The Sea Wolf', when the ferry is struck by the much larger ship in the first chapter, the old deck hand advises Humphrey, 'Hold on to something and listen to the women scream', as if he had been through it before, the main character thinks. Later, as they do start screaming, Humphrey relates: 'This it was, the screaming of the women, that most tried my nerves.'
@@jaybee4118 not for 8 miles bruh come on
Kudos to the court judge, he knew the truth and wasn't about to let the Captain be the fall guy.
This is an amazing documentary/movie with superbly acted characters and wonderful enactment of a tragic event in history. The narration was such an intricate part of the story and done masterfully.
I LOVE Timeline documentaries...so glad to have discovered this channel. (I must admit, though, to having a special soft spot in my heart for the ones featuring Tony Robinson--haved loved him especially ever since the Blackadder days.)
I'm the same.
i feel bad for that submarine guy who was opposed to sinking that ship
I clicked to watch a documentary and found a captivating movie instead! Brilliantly done! RIP to all those who perished.
Fantastic documentary!! Extremely well done with great acting all-round. Bravo! 👏
War makes everyone’s hands dirty ... no matter whose side you’re on.
Nice
Sadly that's true. War is dirty business. Its not something to love.
Bleve dat'!!!
Yup.
As far as I'm concerned, that stone-headed Snr RN Officer, was guilty as the U-boat. He COULD have diverted her. He could have had an escort for the last few miles around Ireland. And then to start panicking and calling in all the intercepts was his last damning act.
Also they could have rerouted her round Ireland. She could have taken on extra coal if needed, but she likely could have made Liverpool anyhow as ships always carried extra in case of bad weather.
The documentary heavily insinuates that he (on order of Churchill) deliberately tried to make the Lusitania an easier target, so yes, he would arguably be the one mostly to blame in this situation. If this is how it happened in real life, no one knows.
Your missing the point.... The British Admiralty wanted America in the war. The Lusitania was bait, if they survived they got a supply shipment, if the Lusitania sank they got the US military... The British Admiralty was not incompetent, they are the government.
@@machscga6238 Yes I take your point, but it wasn't guaranteed to work. It took the ZIMMERMAN message to get USA into the war. That really annoyed them.
@@jackharrison6771 Zimmerman message ? 🤔
Aye shout out the judge that didn’t throw the cap under the bus like they wanted to but still covering what they were transporting. I think most wouldn’t care and just throw him to the wolves. It takes a different type of person to not follow orders like that and even the guy on the German u boat that didn’t give the order to fire. Most would not do that..
A fascinating documentary on the Lusitania! I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Finally a high quality version on TH-cam
Well if that doesn't make you feel even worse about government, I don't know what would.
Too true - and I think that's something that a lot of people perhaps don't understand about those of us who are interested in history, discovering the truth of things, the facts laid bare - we often have to deal with these unpleasant examples, these bitter realities and that's usually met with derision by those that exist inside their own bubble of denial and ignorance, they act as though we are 'happy' with these truths we share, where in fact it is a greater burden to know a lot of these things.
Ahem. But yes, I agree with you - to me it's a reminder that our species is going to take a long, long time to become closer to 'honest and decent', we've improved our lives with technology and industry but the human intellect and disposition is still as greed-stricken and deceitful as we see in our history.
I couldn't agree more with the ending statement."Governments exist to protect themselves".
@@adamfrazer5150 don't forget your tinfoil hat
@@TheLastPierrot (shrug)
@@adamfrazer5150 All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!.
One of my relatives was on the Lusitania.. the family had to go see her body at the docks. Sucked really bad. Just horrible. This story never gets enough attention. Innocent lives gone like that.
RIP
To the 1,195 passengers and crew who were killed in the sinking of the RMS Lusitania
A remarkably well-researched documentation. Objectively, all facts and aspects are named. This way of working through the story is helpful for the relationship between the people involved. This film helps neither to allow hate nor any prejudices. A merit of the producers. In addition there is a first-class acting performance. My respect.Dieter Lehner
this is not a Documentary, its a film
@@newton18311 Documentary or feature film on a documentary basis, that remains the same.
The following points are decisive:1 The German embassy published a submarine warning.2. all British merchant and passenger ships illegally carried ammunition.3. the unrestricted submarine war was a response to the brtische Hunger Blockade, which was contrary to international law. 4. the British Admiralty claimed that several torpedoes had been fired In truth, however, it was only one that under normal circumstances could only damage the ship. The Lusitania exploded because of the loaded ammunition. In the end, Churchill provoked the catastrophe in an unscrupulous way to drive the USA into war.
Absolutely great doc/drama, this could be in theaters!
1:13:20 Mans musta felt like Bartlett, captain of HMHS Britannic (sunk 21 November 1916, saving all but 30 on board. She remains today the largest passenger shipwreck in the Mediterranean). During an inquiry conducted after the sinking, he had seen Britannic as construction started in Belfast in 1911, and been her skipper since her 1915 commissioning. Captain Charles Alfred Bartlett became one of only a few who would see a ship live a full cycle of birth, service, and death.
I love how the U-Boat crew just yell ALARM ALARM instead of there being an alarm sounded
Fascinating, frustrating and very very interesting. Well worth the watch. 🕊️
Just to think how respectful they were back than compared to today
What an interesting take away from a docudrama about a disaster...
@@jaybee4118just too much hubris
As excellent as a movie can be! Rivals anything that a well-monied studio can assemble. Quality is world-class! Wow!
This docudrama is stupendous!!!!the acting is superb!!it should have been a movie,it is far better than the Titanic movie; Well done to all involved!!Thanking You!!