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In this episode:
January 1943. America's submarine force struggles to gain an edge in the South Pacific. Dudley "Mush" Morton, Commander of USS Wahoo, sets out to turn the tide. The new skipper decides to take on an entire convoy. If he succeeds, he will be the first American submarine commander to claim such a prize.
Hell Below is an event-based series charting the stealth game of sub sea warfare, tracking the dramatic narrative from contact to attack of the greatest submarine patrols of World War II. From the rise of the Wolfpack to the drive for victory in the Pacific, we profile the strategic masterminds and the rapid evolution of technology and tactics, as the threat of undersea warfare brings every sailor's worst nightmare to life. Expert analysis and stock footage are woven with narrative driven re-enactments filmed on authentic Second World War era submarines to place the characters at the heart of the action.
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In this episode:
January 1943. America's submarine force struggles to gain an edge in the South Pacific. Dudley "Mush" Morton, Commander of USS Wahoo, sets out to turn the tide. The new skipper decides to take on an entire convoy. If he succeeds, he will be the first American submarine commander to claim such a prize.
Who makes these where u get them from.
On the topic of subs, could you tell the story of the USS Harder? Fascinating story especially since it was just found off the coast of Luzon. The Capt was a true hero along with his crew who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the US!
We had a congressman who was the best weapon the Japanese had. He couldn't keep his big mouth shut!
But Trump does not care about what they fought for. He is now a DICTATOR
@@BarryHope-bj5um who
Ex qualified diesel electric sub sailor here, thanks for this great report, we appreciate it.
thank you❤
that sells
DBF.... got my dolphins over 40 years ago.
The fact the Japanese never heavily invested in anti-submarine warfare was one of the biggest disasters for the Imperial Japanese Navy. Once the U.S. Navy finally corrected the problems of their Mark 14 Torpedo’s what little anti-sub vessels the IJN had was a major error that would haunt the Japanese for the entire war. For U.S. Submarines it was a blessing. Add to the fact the U.S. Navy also decided to adopt German Wolfpack Tactics seen in the Battle of the Atlantic and it became a Turkey shoot. The fact that by 1945 Japan had literally been cut off from any of their last resources that could be imported to them speaks to how deadly the U.S. Subs were.
No the fact you approve in governments using innocent men to murder and kill each other I. Then and of profit and power is a tragedy.
Baiting a debate I see spaceman😂😂😂
@yaboybdot7434 If so he picked the absolute WRONG place to do it...
Don’t engage that idiot, I feel like cocomelon is more his speed. @marklac I found your analysis really interesting it didn’t occur to me until you pointed out how much damage the us subs did and the IJN really had an impotent response. It’s interesting that after winning a battle of attrition in the Atlantic so much so they turned the tables on the axis powers and beat them at their own game by deploying improved tactics derived from the Uboat methodology. The cost of learning those tactics was great however.
@@ragingpotato817 cocomelon is his suit. And yes the Japanese Never really invested that much into their Anti-Submarine Warfare, they had focused too much on their offensive striking capabilities rather than defensive. In fact, it was the use of those same Wolfpack Tactics that in a bit of irony would help Grand Admiral Karl Doenitz’s defense case during the Nuremberg Trials because we used the same tactics. Even Nimitz had sent his testimonial interrogatory to the trial for the defense team and it was read right in the Courtroom. This no doubt helped Doenitz’s defense and reducing his sentence to 10 Years in Prison.
my father was drafted following pearl harbor. I miss my father so much !!!
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The Navy Ordinance Bureau provided torpedoes which did not inspire aggression in the early months.
They did leave shiny marks on Japanese ships though
Yeah, the Mark 14 torpedo had a major failure rate during the beginning of the war. And a lot of the submarine crews putting themselves in harms way to ultimately have their weapons fail were made even more vulnerable by the fact that their torpedoes were not working. But once they began to get things ironed out so to speak the Mark 14 became a very lethal torpedo. It was just a little late in earning it's deadly reputation!
That's not exactly how the "down the throat shot" went.
The bow of a destroyer was too narrow of a target the odds are against hitting it.
Morton would shoot a torpedo close down each side of the destroyer so when it turned to avoid the torpedo, no matter which way the destroyer turned, it was turning towards one of the two torpedoes.
No run silent run deep here....
or he could just use magnetic detonator, then again mk14 magnetic detonator is unreliable
Lots of books and documentaries on the US Subs in the Pacific, but no one has written a biography on Charles Lockwood. One really needs to be written since he was the driving force that finally got US torpedo problems fixed.
Why don't you write one 😮
7:40 "Didn't have the talent early in the war ...." They also didn't have torpedoes that worked.
Great documentary on Submarine warfare with Dudley Morton during WW2 . Thank you!
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excellent - glad you liked it
No matter how many of these documentaries I watch, I always learn something new each time.
They probably make up new details every time they make one of these shows😂
That's great man me too. Sometimes they do get things a little wrong though unless it's me that was wrong in those occasions
"Hell Below" is a great series. Book: U.S. Submarine Operations in World War 2 by Theodore Roscoe. A complete accounting of all submarines and all patrols. First published in 1950. A man who lived down the street from me when I was young served on USS ICEFISH during the war. He taught me a lot about engines and mechanics.
@@mikeb.7589my copy of that book is about 50 years old. The pages are yellowed and rounded off but I wouldn't give up that copy for gold.
I bought it when I was in high school before I went in the navy, on submarines.
I had a history teacher that was a WW2 medic.
What a fantastic video! So informative and entertaining.
Actor playing the skipper was excellent.
Thank you for sharing, great documentary, Semper FI
RIP Wahoo and the other 51 lost.
I love history
Recall that early Mark 14 and Mark 15 torpedoes DID NOT WORK, and the Navy denied the problem.
It was a brutal war in the Pacific but the actions against the Arizona Maru are explainable but not excusable! Still we cannot judge that incident nor others by our standards but by the conditions of their times ! That is my point of view
Valid point.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
My dad served on the USS FRANKLIN CV-13
Survived and evacuated
RIP Lawrence John Capuano
My grandfather Ed Lail graduated from Victoria HS in VA in 1942 and immediately went to Newport News shipbuilding. He helped build the Franklin and New Yorktown before joining the army air corps and became a B29 gunner. He died in 2014. I miss him so much.
Many people know O Kane and Eugene Flucky but Morton is the basis for their successes but is not so recognised l. This dude should be remembered 😢
I'll be damned if I'm coming home with all my ammo 😂
One of the great Submarines!
You're actually right it's nerve wracking
XO Richard O'Kane on the periscope, Capt. Dudley Morton on plot was how the Wahoo worked. Read the books Wahoo and Clear the Bridge, both by O'Kane and be amazed by the bravery and tactics.
My served in ww2 he was on a repair ship the phaon arb 3. 1 of 13 repair ships these guys where heros but never mentioned in the work that they did. Dad said they repaired motor cycles to battle wagons and every thing in between he would be a 100 if he lived thanks to all who served in ww2. Thanks dad
My dad. You can look up his ship on Google he is in 1 of the pictures
A division on one ship...nice... marine corp PR assessment right there
In the Pacific Theater the United States Navy (USN) used individual patrol and pack tactics; the South West Pacific command (SoWePac) under Rear-Admiral Ralph Christie, based at Brisbane and Fremantle favoured the individual patrol, while the Central Pacific command, under Rear Admiral Charles Lockwood at Pearl Harbor (SubPac) used the pack tactic.
Later Vice-Admiral Lockwood.
Lockwood was the G.O.A.T.
He did more for those submarines and their crews than ANY other admiral in the whole damn navy.
To get a more in depth look into Wahoo, I highly recommend the book Wahoo by Lt. Cmdr Richard H O'Kane. O'Kane was XO on Wahoo who later earned command of his own boat USS Tang. He also wrote a book about his experience on Tang called Clear The Bridge. Highly recommend.
Americans have also a lot of blood of POWs and civilians on their hands. Never been on a trail for that.
The Wahoo didn't carry Electric torpedoes on Morton's first patrol.
Actually the Balao class subs were better than the Gato class, they had a thicker pressure hull.
That is but one aspect of performance...
In this demonstrative "documentary", torpedos launched far under the water leaves a trail of gas (looks like air) as it travels, also under water. Where does this air come from?
The propellant and the cavitation
@@kenneth9874 Thanks. BUT a cavitation is filled with gas (You know, one of the 3 states of matter, Gas, Liquid, Solid), which has to come from somewhere... these propellers are surrounded by a fluid called water. @ that temperature water will not evaporate into its gas form (steam). So which gas IS it then?
The MK14 was a steam driven torpedo, thus the exhaust gasses leaving the trail of bubbles in its wake. Current torpedoes use batteries for power, thus no bubbles to give away the location of the firing submarine. TM2(SS).
It is not Revenge... It is Retaliation
In this part of the video it occurs to me that there is a big difference between subs of ww2 and today's subs nuclear powered,has missle capability and can use planes for area and distance.
Saluting the crew of the Wahoo. /^
I take it he wasn’t using mk 14 torpedos?😊
He was, which only deepened the controversy. Morton did not report the reliability issues with his batch of Mk 14s. Either he knew and did not report them because he had figured out how to adjust, or he had been using pre-war produced units.
The submarine captains started to set the Mk-14 for a shallower depth and stopped using the magnetic exploder.
But
Admiral Christie had been transferred from the Bureau of Ordnance to Submarines South Pacific.
Every time someone complained about the Mk-14 it triggered Christie.
When he found out what the sub captains were doing he threatened to relieve every submarine captain that turned off the magnetic exploder or set torpedoes shallower.
So the captains stopped putting it in the patrol reports & told Christie what he wanted to hear.
When Lockwood took over he listened to his sub captains.
And when BuOrd wouldn't listen to him he did his own experiments with the Mk-14 and forced BuOrd to fix the torpedo.
@@LastRonin47the pre-war units had the same problems as the war time built Mk-14's
What was the movie they made about this story?
That maneuver with the plane just makes zero sense
Why is the transport called "Seiwa Maru" in this video? I know it as Buyo Maru.
. Dudley Morton was a very efficient captain but he was also a war criminal.
You obviously don't have a clue as to how the Japanese treated their prisoners of war! Remember; All is fair in love and war.
@@chuckbohac508 The Japanese commited war crimes for sure.
@@chuckbohac508That does not excuse Morton
On what ship was this filmed?
We in Solomon Islands are so thankful for the US Marines for liberating our Islands from the enemy in WW2. However Japan is one of the major developers in our country today. US on the other hand seem to have forsaken us and turn their focus on the Middle East where there is oil.
🎉Enterprise and the subs were the major reasons for our victory at sea
Submarines were the main reason for the victory in the Pacific.
There were fewer men in the submarine servive than any other service in the navy; and the submarine service sank more ships and more tonnage in the Pacific than any service in the navy.
They starved Japan into defeat.
I said that but you missed reference to Enterprise. The IJ fleets were also defeated which allowed submarine warfare to be successful..Big E was in over 10 winning engagements. Learn more talk less.
Japanese Navy did have good anti submarine tactics and gear.
Morton should have been court martialed, no question. In ordering his men to fire on lifeboats was reprehensible, and against the Geneva convention.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
Japan started the war with the US with a war crime. What did they expect in return?
Why no mention of the disaster of the early mark 14 torpedos which were mainly duds. Naval ordinance command distegarded the reports of these failures as captains firing from extreme ranges and missing. This failure should be ranked as bad as the situation on the east coast described in episode 2
Any primarily Island country is vulnerable to submarine warfare.
So unlike the german submariners, the americans needed multiple torpedos, had computer assisstance and showed no mercy to survivors (also POWs).
Love this series but as a Marine I can’t fathom why the producers and makeup artists didn’t equip these main characters with the kind of 1940’s Princeton haircuts which were so popular and also required by Navy regs. Yuk, man.
Minute 38. Wahoo could have fought back. I has a 5-inch deck gun and superior FC to a single gun on a freighter.
It's the fog of war when USA POWs were killed by friendly fire which happened.
What about the crappy torpedoes the Navy had for the first 2 1/2 years of the war ?
It seems the captain accumulated more bad karma than he could carry. It’s unfortunate that all the other people around him had to die.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
A German commander does not have, like me, two thousand years of civilization on his shoulders. (Salvatore Bruno Todaro)
U.S technology'in Warfare"no match'< still,lock&loaded!!!
American Dreams 😂😂
Sharks must have eaten good after that War Crime
Right on! Wahoo’s demise in La Parousse Straights was karma at her best.
War crimes were standard procedure for the japanese.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
"cleans sweep" with two missiles and all this high tech missing its target each time!😂
This was a terrible period in man's history. But in the end as we are allied now, Peace. Russia should take a clue from history. Mankind cannot sustain violence on this world. Peace.
Poor quality production. Depth charges, not death charges. You have
NO idea
Correct spelling is PEARL HARBOR NOT HARBOUR. CHANGE THE SPELLING TO THE PROPER SPELLING
You do know it is also correct spelled with the u right? We are good with both versions: British and American English.
@@FreeDocumentaryHistoryI use the "u" all the time, in a variety of words. It confuses people. I love it!
Killing the peoples in boats are just Un human actions and yet the documentary man was making excuses saying they will fight again how evil is he
WAHOO
The Japanese had a rather disdainful eye of the American fighting man and their gear. While some of their contempt for the gear was justifiable (Mark 14), their fateful synthesis of “victory disease” and Bushido supremacy left them with an unwatchful eye on US submarine campaign. It is ironic how a mere chauvinistic attitude can lose a war. The Captain of the IJN Shinano (Abe) bore a similar contempt for both US subs and their torpedos. He went down with the ship. By mid to late 43’ most of the Mark 14 bugs had been worked out. Most. On land, Japanese commanders ordered their troops to kill 10-13 Americans for every Japanese. This command was untenable. Both the Japanese strategic and tactical doctrines suffered from a vain superiority complex germinated by mostly fables. Had the Japanese been honest with their mounting unsustainable losses at land and sea they could have prolonged the war, possibly opening the way for the precious time they could later not afford to buy. So it is.
they keep going back and forth to a point that I'm losing the actual story, the most ridiculous editing ever for a story to the point I was totally discouraged from watching
Even if I thought they were Japanese
If a World war broke out tomorrow Do you think Japan would go on the warpath against everybody or side with America . I personally hink Japan would go on the warpath .
LOL No, that didn't work 80 years ago. Wouldn't work now. US is still the leader in conventional warfare in the world by a huge margin. They have nukes of course, but so do many countries. If WW breaks out again, someone is def pressing the button somewhere, no doubt in my mind. We ae ALL done if so, so let's not do that WW thing again.
The Japanese were incredibly cruel. They would have killed any and every survivor of a sunk ship. They would target hospital ships and corpmen.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
Only skilled people know THE REAL reasons for war and revenge and revenge for revenge. - Look at japanese history and make up your own opinion.
Same comment as to all of the other American docs, repeat, repeat, repeat, same old same old. If you want a decent doc ask the Poms to make it for you.
It is war crimes
Live to fight another day is a better and more logical model especially when torpedo's the American torpedo's Would not delete always.. I'll take this rewarding of aggression is a sick idea.. If you're going to be suicidal.. You should make sure that those sailors Are screened We're suicidal mission. Older folks who do not have a future ahead of them. Family back home and girlfriends.
DEPTH CHARGE! NOT DEATH , I mean who approved this lol
😂😂😂 lie to waters and dolphins
The japenese won the war eventually by selling more toyotas than Ford in america😂
See, it was good for them to surrender.
A lot of Allied POWS died in ships yhat were indiscriminately attacked by Allied ships, subs and planes. Executing people floating in the water regardless of their threat was icing on the cake I guess. Shameful times for both the Axis and Allied powers.
Standard procedure for the japanese...
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
very cheap document. all the animations are the same as german boats and torpedoes.. Many faults and lies told by the narrator. Giving a thumbs down.
When you try to explain and justify 'just one little war crime', you only make it worse. Admit he did do something wrong and keep going.
how can a war crime be little?
IJN Navy survivors had a propensity and REPUTATION of killing those trying to rescue them. This, they were still combatants.
Submarines did not have enough space to take survivors from a sunk ship.
The odds of those men being rescued are right at slim and none & none walked out the door.
Leave them in the water and they get eaten by sharks or literally pass away from thirst, but not before their skin starts to peel off from so much time in the salt water.
Oh ya.
Letting men pass away like that is sooo much more humane.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
The Japanese Navy had more ships but of poor quality
The Japanese warships were excellent at the start of the conflict. The cruisers like Aoba and Tonē carried good guns and excellent torpedoes. Their DDs had good range and very high speeds. Their night doctrine top-notch, and they had sometruly first class ship commanders. The biggest failure was a lack of flexibility and constant overestimating opposition capabilities. Another problem was the lack of established antisubmarine forces, but that is another story.
More ships than the US? The US had 48 aircraft carriers of 7 different types. Then you have countless other war and merchant ships built during that time. Many of the warships sunk at PH were back to sea before wars end. The US production and logistics capacity for everything needed to carry on the war for themselves and their Allies was absolutely insane.
32:55 that was a war crime
So was Pearl Harbor. They shouldn't have poked the bear, bears don't like that.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
So the USA start an oil embargo against Japan, then moan when they attack lol
So how about a little context. Why did the USA start an oil embargo? Maybe it had something to do with Japan invading Manchuria and then mainland China. Rape of Nanking?
I see you have a good understanding of the situation.
Yep! How many innocents were killed during Impetisl Japan’s conquest’s BEFORE the embargo?
Selective history I call that! You pick a point in history to start a conversation, not to far back or it spoils your defenseless position.
@@rcdogmanduh4440 Well said. It's a staggeringly ignorant statement and point of view. I am glad people got full sarcasm of my first reply.
13:00 This guy looks way too much like Steve Carell to take seriously.🤦♂️😄
enemy to the port! *sub veers to the right*
He died at sea thats not a hero
Obviously your comment is based on a lifetime of combat at sea in a submarine
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These guys were the most useless submariners ever... WASN'T HE A WAR CRIMINAL TOO? Or just the Germans were the only ones, just because they were the enemy?
SHAME ON THIS USELESS SAVAGE CAPTAIN.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
Of all types of weapon platforms in the U.S. Navy the Submarine is the one I would NOT want to be on! Those guys were fearless!!!!
My top 2 picks were subs and pointy nose jets growing up. Guess what one isn't on the list anymore
Hmmmm... plenty of fear... just controlled fear.
My dad served on the USS FRANKLIN CV-13
Survived and evacuated
RIP Lawrence John Capuano
Wahoo’s Executive Officer was Richard O’Cain who would go on to skipper the Tang and Win the Medal of Honor.
I love this channel so much. The way the documentaries are presented brings back so many memories of the old History channel. And its making content about my current obsession; WW2 submarines! I'm so glad I found this channel a month earlier!
They truly were the greatest generation. I'll never forget my grade 10 history teacher and learning about WWII. The maps he drew on the chalkboard, including troop movements, made it as vivid as watching a documentary. I've been a lifelong history buff of WWII ever since. I don't know why I'm typing this; I guess it just shows the impact a good teacher can have on a kid that now, 12 years later, I still remember the class.
we’re glad you did - thank you.
"Greatest Generation" huh? Well, maybe. They had to grow up in depression era poverty then go fight a world war. Which they did and they won. I'm a Boomer whose dad was a vet of "the big one". This comment is what he said to me when I was about 17;
"There's only been two bad generations of Americans. Yours. And mine." Dad had high standards!!
I fully agree, now days these kids are being raced spineless, I watched just about every single ww2 air attack units and those kids really had balls of steal, climbing on those Bombers alone would made 90% of today's same age "man" turn right back around lol.
Damn, your high school history class was a lot more granular than mine.
Many of my teachers were vets and that type of 1st hand experience is rare now. War is now a remote or abstract 'thing' for most. History that deserves to be remembered needs these documentaries.
My History teacher in School wassa WWII vet he'd brings in his tapes artifacts it was great ta listen to him, ands watch his Films.
The accusations of Indian POWs remain unsubstantiated. Japan never treated POWs with any regard, but you expect me to belive they provided these guys lifevests or access to life boats? Nah, I don't buy it. They were IJA troops. War is Hell, but Mush and Wahoo are not to blame.
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
The sub skippers knew ( and were under orders not to diseeminate) the torpedoes had an eighty percent failure rate. Many heard the "clunk " more than once of torpedoes breaking apart upon hitting a hull..By January 43, new skippers had new fish
Considering how bad the Mark XIV torpedo was firing them was an exercise in futility. They ran to deep; the magnetic detonator was erratic, and the impact detonator failed very high percentage of the time
karma arrived because of that carnage at sea 32:57 😉
Wahoo's Executive Officer said that the Japanese guards who were mixed in among the Indian POWs on the boats started shooting at Wahoo's crewman when she approached, and that when Wahoo returned fire they had no way of knowing that most of the troops in the water were Allied POWs.
Thank you for our many freedoms!
It was GROSSLY unfair to blame the "timid" skippers, BECAUSE THAT WAS US NAVY POLICY. Had they been told to be aggressive, Kennedy and others relieved of command could have kept their commands. BIG BLACK EYE for the US Navy.
AND BIGGER BLACK EYE FOR TH-cam FOR SHADOW BANNING THIS COMMENT.
Can there be a video on the USS Harder ( SSN-257 ) captained br Samuel B Dealey? That sunken sub was recently found off Luzon, S. Phillipines
There is one
Not SSN, the N implies nuclear power which we didn't have until the early 1950's. The designation should be SS-257. I qualified on the USS Threadfin (SS-410) in the late 1960's.
Ooh BTW - LEST WE FORGET ... ' em 'MARK 14 torpedos ' - the Pacific Campaign might have unfolded different - ah 🇨🇦
A TRUE HEROE...
RIP ... and in Glory!
War is hell on earth...it doesn't leave you, and sometimes haunts you years later.