I was looking around for a long travel setup for my 71 C10. You ain't kidding that parts/kits/info this doesn't seem to exist. I've done enough enough of the lowering thing and 4×4 thing. You basically came up with a bolt on kit. I'm trying to see if the same parts work on a 71. Great video
@@HarmonGarage also have a c20 would I have to change the upper CA to a 1/2 ton one or would both upper and lower 1ton arms work just fine?. Thanks in advance
Great video man! Huge demand for this process and you have helped a lot of people. I watched the video and went through the comments and the fact that you give people the time of day and answer them is amazing. That being said I have a question of my own, I have a 1977 c20 crew cab with a big block. I think I can keep my springs and lower control arm but I thought I would ask? Thank you!
Hey Harmon! I hate to ask because you are probably a busy guy, but I’m looking to lift my 74 GMC 2500 w/ 454. I’ve reviewed your videos and looked extensively at the comments. If I am understanding I would need the spindles, outer tie rods, and brake components? The lower control arms and springs should be alright? I appreciate all the help and advice you’ve given so far. I love the videos! Thanks!
@@dustinwalker8576 I believe the C20 and C30 a-arms are different, unless the C20 is a crew cab. The way to find out for certain is go in rock auto and cross reference part numbers. That’s how I do it anyway. Hope it helps.
For the back I just went down to the local parts store and bought a lift block kit. I used 2” blocks in the back because the back already sits higher. So 2 in the back and 4 in the front leveled it out
Man I'm grateful. I could not find a lift kit for anything. They don't exist. Last question. If I need to replace the shocks and springs in front what size do I need if I do exact size lift you did? What size shocks in back
Any secrets on the tie rods? Seems the OBS outer is a left hand thread, and the squarebody inner is a left hand thread. The adjuster requires one to be right hand and one to be left hand. I'm stuck. How did you work around this
thanks for the video, greeting from Holland, the Netherlands (Europe) i wonder, is the C30 bottom arm not to wide, that the wheel is sticking out of the fender... second question, what was the cost of all this $$?
Thanks for watching. It doesn’t really change the width because the spindle has a different offset. You could buy all the parts to do it for $1500-$2000
Question nobody has asked (so far). Do you think you could come up with a parts "recipe" for a 4 inch lift on 1st Gen (60-66) C10 2WD? Everyone slams the 1st Gen C10's presumably because of the difficulty in lifting them. Just thinking swap to C30 rear-end w/ leaf springs and 2" or 3" block lift for the rear then your "mix-n-match" front suspension combination for the 4" lift up front? Thx, (and I just subscribed!)
Thanks for watching and subscribing. If I were going to lift a 60-66 I would switch over to all 73-87 suspension and do it the same way I did h the is one
@@HarmonGarage Thx Aaron. And for the rear-end lift since 1st Gen C10 are coil springs do you agree swapping to a leaf spring and block lift is the way to go? Maybe a C30 axle/leaf spring? Would have to switch to 5 lug axles for wheel package?
I agree. That’s what I meant about changing over ALL the suspension. Unless you already have the c30 stuff or want it to be heavy duty, you can just use c10 stuff and already have the 5 lug axles
Hello Harmon. First of all, Great Work! I have a 1990 GMC R1500 squarebody suburban that I would like to raise 4 inches. What would I have to change in the front? Because you only mention the C series squarebodies. What are the differences?
@@HarmonGarage Good morning. Thank you for replying so quickly. Do I have to change the 1990 r1500 upper control arm for a 73-87 c10 control arm? Did you obtain the 4.5 inches lift instead of the 4 inches on longstep because of the big block springs?
You don’t have to change the upper. It should already be the same. It may have been the big block springs but it also may have just been because the springs were brand new and hadn’t settled yet
@@HarmonGarage Okey, i have a C20 so i guess nothing is different? Except that the lower controll arm that is the same length for c20 and c30 i figured out
Great info man! I've been needing to update the front end on my '76 2WD Blazer. I bought it back in 2004 and a prior owner had already put a 3" lift on it but have no idea or details of the hardware up front. Are those 88-98 Calipers the same as JB7s or are they bigger?
I have a c20 8 lug could I use the 4 inch spindle lift from rough country for the 88-99 c1500/k1500 and just go with brake rotors from an 88-98 2500 HD?
Awesome build Harmon. I've a 77' chevy shorty van I would like to lift and I think this could be an option. Please tell me if you would, but did you ever think of having a custom spring made? I was told that would be fairly easy easy and quoted me 1300. Ive been advised to go that route but i dont know. What say you dude? Thx
This should work out for the van. Getting a custom spring made would just be a taller heavier spring that would put a lot of strain on your ball joints and “overload” your suspension. (Spoken from experience) it is way better to do the lift spindles. Thanks for watching
I used stock replacement shocks on the front and I measured for the rears and found some shocks that fit. Sorry but I don’t remember what the rears were
I was circling back to your video and curious about the use of the big block springs, are those just still technically a half ton HD spring or are they actually c20 or c30 springs? I'm looking at parts to transfer to my 64 project for the same kind of lift and from some initial research seems like the parts list will be the same (or pretty similar). Thanks sir!
I'm also curious what lift knuckles did you end up using. I've seen the rough country 4 inch and then seen another one on ebay that is the same height but not sure of the quality. Thanks sir!
They are still half ton springs. You don’t actually need the big block springs. The reason I did the big block springs is because the truck got a big block. The regular 1/2 ton springs will provide the same lift.
I'll have to look into it and see. Did you get to drive project longstep? Just curious on how the steering was after the knuckle swap and tie rod swap. @@HarmonGarage
Good evening Harmon. This is a very cool video and extremely helpful, thank you. I am trying to lift my 72 C20 Longhorn and it has been a real pain in the ass trying to make this happen. I'm guessing this set up only works for the 5 lug rotors and not the 8 lug? what year and model rotors did you use because your parts list says 88 - 98 C1500 but, I believe, i read in your comments you saying 2500. I just want to make sure i am clear on exact parts.
Hey! Can I use a 6 inch spindle instead of a 4 inch? I’m really interested in starting vmy project but want to make sure I can use a 6 inch before ordering it
@@HarmonGarage What about 2” ? I’m a novice don’t know much and if 2” is even a option Wanting 285x17 tires but I don’t want it so high I can’t easily reach into bed. Just trying to improve the look from the low stock look. Can I easily do 2” ? Parts the same except ? By way where are u located ?
Were you able to keep stock 15" wherls on this? I remember reading a thread online for essentially the same set up but it mentioned needing larger wheels due to flipping the Tie rod end under the spindle. Couldn't really tell if you needed to put the tie rod under the spundle or not. Or did you use the C1500 tie rod end to get around that?
I used c1500 tie rods and factory 15 in wheels fit just fine. There is a full build series on this truck. If you look at the other videos it has wheels and tires on it
@HarmonGarage Awesome, I did scroll through a couple of vids but were not sure if the rally wheels were replicas with a custom offset or not. I believe the reason for the tie rod flip normally was due to different tapers between the C10 and C1500 tie rod ends. So it's great to know that it can be avoided by using the C1500 tie rod ends.
I have an 84 c10 and i noticed there is no kit for it too!...i was wondering 1, can you just stick with the stock coil spring in mine? (It's only got a 250 inline 6 in it), and 2, with the way mine rakes from the factory...do you think these 4" lift spindles and a 3" block in the rear would be a nice level lift? If i do a lift at all...it's just gonna be for looks. If i don't, i might just hang the back to get it level. I don't mind a lowered truck either, used to be real into that scene when i was younger.
So glad I found your video you’re the man L0L I’m a novice don’t know much about it but I have an 84C 10 I would like to lift 2 inches. I have two questions for someone. One is at about the 24 minute mark you mention that it was kind of tough putting it together because when you try to put parts together that we’re not purposed that can happen. First question is is there anything that you can tell me about that that would help the guy that’s going to try to do this for me ? My next question is you’re lifting 4 inches I think I would like to lift only two so my question is can you tell me do you think that will work and one exact part is different than what you’ve done? May seem like a very ignorant question and it is because I just don’t know Thank you
Thanks for watching. First thing in my opinion no question is dumb if you ask it. I have not done a 2 inch lift on one of these trucks but to only lift it 2 inches you can probably get away with only a heavy duty or lift spring in the front and then a 2 inch block in the rear. As far as it being tough to put it together will all different parts, it’s not all that bad. This one in the video actually went really smooth. You just have to take a little more attention to detail when the parts aren’t necessarily made to go together. Hopefully this helps. If not keep asking questions.
I think the suspension is very similar. I would look up and see if the parts for the c10 and the G30 are the same. control arms, ball joints, etc. if they are it will work. i havent done much with the vans so im not 100% sure
Super cool. Did it change the track? Will you need to use different offset wheels to match the hub bearing design? Still. Great way to breathe life into these old trucks.
It’s far from being done. Won’t drive it for awhile. I did another one before I started TH-cam and in drove fine. Wheel offsets are the same. Thanks for watching
@@HarmonGarage my spring doesn’t come out the way it does in your video. The control arm doesn’t drop all the way down, would I have to remove the whole knuckle in order for it to fully drop?
Hey Harmon I have a 68 C10 long bed with coil springs on the rear I want to fit 285s tires, may be like a 4 inch left would do. Any recommendations on what I could do? I would really appreciate your help. For the rear I think I figured it out. But for the front I have no idea and I’ve looked everywhere and nobody has anything
Hey bud awesome job can’t wait to see more of project longstep. By the way I got another F-150 it’s a 2010. I still have the brown one. I have a question for you about the 2010. Can I call you tomorrow? To get your advice on it because I have a problem with the driver door.
My only guess is do what he’s doing, along with 3” coil spring lift, ball joint spacers, and another 3” body lift. The only thing is that you’ll have to get your suspension realigned and it’ll ride a little rough. But in theory you’ll get about 10.5” of lift?
I have a c20 8 lug could I use the 4 inch spindle lift from rough country for the 88-99 c1500/k1500 and just go with brake rotors from an 88-98 2500 HD?
Hey I tried doing this and it’s not fitting so just to make sure it’s the c1500 4 inch spindle from RC and 8 lug rotors from a 91 c2500? And which bearing do I use?
I was looking around for a long travel setup for my 71 C10. You ain't kidding that parts/kits/info this doesn't seem to exist. I've done enough enough of the lowering thing and 4×4 thing. You basically came up with a bolt on kit. I'm trying to see if the same parts work on a 71. Great video
Thank you
Awesome stuff!!!! Been lookin to do this to my C20 for years!
It’s the same process. You just use 2500 rotors instead of 1500. Thanks for watching
@@HarmonGarage also have a c20 would I have to change the upper CA to a 1/2 ton one or would both upper and lower 1ton arms work just fine?. Thanks in advance
@MrRockabilly92 the c20 upper will work
Awsome craftsmanship! I really enjoy watching you work
Thank you sir. I appreciate it
Hey Harmon, found this while researching lifting my ‘77 C10 “Corncob”(gotta name them lol!), def subscribin’!
Thank you sir. I appreciate the support
this going to be cool when finished
I think so also. Thanks for watching
Wow! Great tutorial on this!
Thanks
Great video man! Huge demand for this process and you have helped a lot of people. I watched the video and went through the comments and the fact that you give people the time of day and answer them is amazing. That being said I have a question of my own, I have a 1977 c20 crew cab with a big block. I think I can keep my springs and lower control arm but I thought I would ask? Thank you!
You can keep your springs for sure. I’m not sure if the lower control arms for the 3/4 and 1 tons are the same
Ok, I’ll probably just swap everything the way you did. Thank you again!
I problem. Glad you enjoyed the video
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Awesome video, thanks for sharing!
No problem, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching
Hey Harmon! I hate to ask because you are probably a busy guy, but I’m looking to lift my 74 GMC 2500 w/ 454. I’ve reviewed your videos and looked extensively at the comments. If I am understanding I would need the spindles, outer tie rods, and brake components? The lower control arms and springs should be alright? I appreciate all the help and advice you’ve given so far. I love the videos! Thanks!
Yes, you are correct. And you need to change the ball joints also
@@HarmonGarage Hell yeah thanks man! Keep up the awesome work
Thank you for watching
Awesome video!
Thank you
Great video one question could i use 8 lug rotors with all this thxs
Yes you can
I dig it man. Any idea of this would work on a C30?
Yes it would. You just don’t need to change the lower control arm and use a 88-94 c2500 rotor
@@HarmonGarage thank you sir!
Would it be the same for a c20?
@@dustinwalker8576 I believe the C20 and C30 a-arms are different, unless the C20 is a crew cab. The way to find out for certain is go in rock auto and cross reference part numbers. That’s how I do it anyway. Hope it helps.
Yes it’s the same for c20
8:30 longer or shorter. Wouldn't you want the top to stick out more with lift? Less shims🤷♀️
That all gets sorted out when you take it to get an alignment after it’s all done
Nice work, dude!
Thank you
Hey I have a 77 checy c10 2wd. I love this. Do you have everything I would need for the back as well? I would appreciate it.
For the back I just went down to the local parts store and bought a lift block kit. I used 2” blocks in the back because the back already sits higher. So 2 in the back and 4 in the front leveled it out
Thank you so much. Could I use the 6" spindles in front?
I’m not going to say yes because I have never done it. And your welcome
Man I'm grateful. I could not find a lift kit for anything. They don't exist. Last question. If I need to replace the shocks and springs in front what size do I need if I do exact size lift you did? What size shocks in back
Front shocks are stock replacement for the truck. Rears you have to measure eyelet to eyelet at ride hide and get shocks that fit. That’s what I did
Any secrets on the tie rods? Seems the OBS outer is a left hand thread, and the squarebody inner is a left hand thread. The adjuster requires one to be right hand and one to be left hand. I'm stuck. How did you work around this
I just got standard 88-98 outer tie rods and they worked fine
@@HarmonGarage thanks, I'll try again. Great video and upgrade! Thanks again
No problem. Thank you
Great video!
Thanks
thanks for the video, greeting from Holland, the Netherlands (Europe)
i wonder, is the C30 bottom arm not to wide, that the wheel is sticking out of the fender...
second question, what was the cost of all this $$?
Thanks for watching. It doesn’t really change the width because the spindle has a different offset. You could buy all the parts to do it for $1500-$2000
Hey bro I put a 3in lift cab an bed from lmc
Hope that works
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Question nobody has asked (so far). Do you think you could come up with a parts "recipe" for a 4 inch lift on 1st Gen (60-66) C10 2WD? Everyone slams the 1st Gen C10's presumably because of the difficulty in lifting them. Just thinking swap to C30 rear-end w/ leaf springs and 2" or 3" block lift for the rear then your "mix-n-match" front suspension combination for the 4" lift up front? Thx, (and I just subscribed!)
Thanks for watching and subscribing. If I were going to lift a 60-66 I would switch over to all 73-87 suspension and do it the same way I did h the is one
@@HarmonGarage Thx Aaron. And for the rear-end lift since 1st Gen C10 are coil springs do you agree swapping to a leaf spring and block lift is the way to go? Maybe a C30 axle/leaf spring? Would have to switch to 5 lug axles for wheel package?
I agree. That’s what I meant about changing over ALL the suspension. Unless you already have the c30 stuff or want it to be heavy duty, you can just use c10 stuff and already have the 5 lug axles
If i’m doing this to a 88 R3500 with wedge style brakes, I’ll need 91 C2500 rotors, calipers and ball joints correct?
Yes sir. That is correct
Great video!
I have an 86 GMC High Sierra 2WD. I’d like to lift it 4 inches.
What parts do you recommend I use to lift it?
Thank you, all the parts are listed in the video description
It’s a 1/2 ton 1500 and doesn’t have springs.
@JoeHernandez-t1v I’ve never seen an 86 that didn’t have springs
Awesome build!!! This is just what I was looking for. What did you use in the rear?? Just lift blocks or a different spring pack?
Just lift blocks
Good info man
Thank you. Hope it’s helpful. Thanks for watching
Do we know how much lift we’re planning to see? Best I can tell it sounds like about 5-6 inches with the HD big lock springs and 4” spindles.
It only raised it about 4.5 inches. I have posted more videos on the truck and you can see it with the body on and it has 33x10.50 all terrains on it
Hey what's up man great video.... Can this work on a 1970 c20?
It will but I think you would have to switch over to a 73-87 engine crossmember
Hope hes gonna keep a list of parts for future referance My 96 had alotta different parts that didnt belong Made it a pain sometimes 👍👍🙏🙏
Yes sir. I’m going to make up a list of what everything is and give it to him
Thanks for watching!!
Hi what hub assembly will work on that spindle for 8lug? Currently have a dually 2wd Chevy process you did I believe is for 6lug
The one I did was a 5 lug. I’m not sure but I don’t think this will work on a dually
Hello Harmon. First of all, Great Work! I have a 1990 GMC R1500 squarebody suburban that I would like to raise 4 inches. What would I have to change in the front? Because you only mention the C series squarebodies. What are the differences?
It’s should all be the same as the c series.
@@HarmonGarage Good morning. Thank you for replying so quickly. Do I have to change the 1990 r1500 upper control arm for a 73-87 c10 control arm? Did you obtain the 4.5 inches lift instead of the 4 inches on longstep because of the big block springs?
You don’t have to change the upper. It should already be the same. It may have been the big block springs but it also may have just been because the springs were brand new and hadn’t settled yet
@@HarmonGarage Thank you so much Aaron. Cant wait to get started. Happy Holidays.
No problem at all. Happy holidays to you as well
Would this be the same parts and process on a 85 c10?
Yes
Hi.
First of all, Thank you for this video ! This Will help me so much !
I wonder were did you find the 4” lift spindle? Thanks 😊
Thank you. Part number is in the description
@@HarmonGarage Okey, i have a C20 so i guess nothing is different? Except that the lower controll arm that is the same length for c20 and c30 i figured out
That is correct
@@HarmonGaragejust one more question. Do you know if it would work with the 6” spindle lift or will that mess up everything?
I do not know for sure but I don’t see it not working
Great info man! I've been needing to update the front end on my '76 2WD Blazer. I bought it back in 2004 and a prior owner had already put a 3" lift on it but have no idea or details of the hardware up front. Are those 88-98 Calipers the same as JB7s or are they bigger?
They are a little different. There is 3 different brake packages on the 91 ( which is the specific year I ordered parts for)
I have a c20 8 lug could I use the 4 inch spindle lift from rough country for the 88-99 c1500/k1500 and just go with brake rotors from an 88-98 2500 HD?
Yes.
Love the video! Can this be done to a 85 GMC c3500?
Yes. You just have to get rotors for a 91 c2500 instead
Awesome thank you. Would I still have to change out the control arms as well to the c30
No. You already have them. Just the ball joints will need changed
You’re awesome man! Thank you for all your help!!
No problem. If you need any help or have any questions. Feel free to reach out to me
Awesome build Harmon. I've a 77' chevy shorty van I would like to lift and I think this could be an option. Please tell me if you would, but did you ever think of having a custom spring made? I was told that would be fairly easy easy and quoted me 1300. Ive been advised to go that route but i dont know. What say you dude? Thx
This should work out for the van. Getting a custom spring made would just be a taller heavier spring that would put a lot of strain on your ball joints and “overload” your suspension. (Spoken from experience) it is way better to do the lift spindles. Thanks for watching
@@HarmonGarage Thx so much!
No problem. Hope I was helpful
I know this is an old video but do you remember what shocks you ended up going with by chance
I used stock replacement shocks on the front and I measured for the rears and found some shocks that fit. Sorry but I don’t remember what the rears were
@@HarmonGarage thanks man I appreciate I’ll have to measure the rears when I get to it
No problem. Good luck with your project
Good information
Thank you
Where did you get the rotors calipers and wheel bearings from
Oreillys
Would this work on my c30
Yes. Just use 91 c2500 rotors.
@@HarmonGarage thank you
No problem
What are all the parts I’d need to do this to my c30 compared to ur c10
Everything should be the same except for the rotors. And maybe calipers
I was circling back to your video and curious about the use of the big block springs, are those just still technically a half ton HD spring or are they actually c20 or c30 springs? I'm looking at parts to transfer to my 64 project for the same kind of lift and from some initial research seems like the parts list will be the same (or pretty similar). Thanks sir!
I'm also curious what lift knuckles did you end up using. I've seen the rough country 4 inch and then seen another one on ebay that is the same height but not sure of the quality. Thanks sir!
They are still half ton springs. You don’t actually need the big block springs. The reason I did the big block springs is because the truck got a big block. The regular 1/2 ton springs will provide the same lift.
I used the rough country 4 inch. All the part numbers are in the description of the video. Thanks for watching.
Hey, can you use 88- 98 8 lug rotors and brakes on those spindles?
I believe you can. I have had a lot of other people ask me the same thing never heard back from them that it didn’t work.
I'll have to look into it and see. Did you get to drive project longstep? Just curious on how the steering was after the knuckle swap and tie rod swap. @@HarmonGarage
Yes, I drove it around and it drove great
Hey, I have a question if you can help me. I have a 1979 Chevy truck 2wd. If possible, to lift the truck to 6 inches
I’ve never done any research on lifter one any higher than what I did in this video. But it’s a tall 4-5 really gives it a nice stance
Good evening Harmon. This is a very cool video and extremely helpful, thank you. I am trying to lift my 72 C20 Longhorn and it has been a real pain in the ass trying to make this happen. I'm guessing this set up only works for the 5 lug rotors and not the 8 lug? what year and model rotors did you use because your parts list says 88 - 98 C1500 but, I believe, i read in your comments you saying 2500. I just want to make sure i am clear on exact parts.
They are 91 1500 hd rotors and calipers
Can I use this same stuff on a 1983 Chevy c20 2wd?
Yes. But you need to get c2500 rotors
@@HarmonGarage 88 c2500? And everything else as you listed?
@TahlisW yes
I’m trying to figure out if these lift spindles would also work on my Chevy C20?
Yes they will.
Hey my brother I knows this video is super old but I was wondering on how u got the lower ball joints to fit into the lower control arms ??
Is the c10 lower ball joint hole smaller than. The one for the c30 ??
No. It just presses in
@@HarmonGaragedid u use a shop press?? Or a with a ball joint installation tool??
And thank u for the advice I really appreciate it
@codyday8959 ball joint install tool
Hey! Can I use a 6 inch spindle instead of a 4 inch? I’m really interested in starting vmy project but want to make sure I can use a 6 inch before ordering it
I have not used the 6 inch so I can’t say whether it will or not
if I were to only want 3 inches of lift would I do everything the exact same way just get 3 inch spindles instead of 4 ?
Yes.
okay awesome, if you have the time and wouldn't mind, could you give a link for each part you used?
I will see what I can do. But all the parts with part numbers are in the description of the video
@@HarmonGarage
What about 2” ?
I’m a novice don’t know much and if 2” is even a option
Wanting 285x17 tires but I don’t want it so high I can’t easily reach into bed. Just trying to improve the look from the low stock look. Can I easily do 2” ? Parts the same except ?
By way where are u located ?
I’m in Alabama
Were you able to keep stock 15" wherls on this? I remember reading a thread online for essentially the same set up but it mentioned needing larger wheels due to flipping the Tie rod end under the spindle. Couldn't really tell if you needed to put the tie rod under the spundle or not. Or did you use the C1500 tie rod end to get around that?
I used c1500 tie rods and factory 15 in wheels fit just fine. There is a full build series on this truck. If you look at the other videos it has wheels and tires on it
@HarmonGarage Awesome, I did scroll through a couple of vids but were not sure if the rally wheels were replicas with a custom offset or not. I believe the reason for the tie rod flip normally was due to different tapers between the C10 and C1500 tie rod ends. So it's great to know that it can be avoided by using the C1500 tie rod ends.
Good deal
@HarmonGarage Thanks for confirming that oe wheels will work. Looks like I'm collecting parts to do this same Lift next year.
No problem, best of luck with your project.
Got any rear lift information? Got an 86 I’d like to get some room under
I just use lift blocks. Or you can get recurve springs
@@HarmonGarage sweetttt I haven’t looked into it a ton. Sitting here waiting to pick my son up for school and found your video.
Thanks for watching
How’s the set up holding up? Is the ride pretty rough?
Not real rough. It rides good
Is this what I need for my 83 2wd to be lifted it is currently lowered?
Yes, this will lift it.
Do you have a parts list
It’s in the video description
I have an 84 c10 and i noticed there is no kit for it too!...i was wondering 1, can you just stick with the stock coil spring in mine? (It's only got a 250 inline 6 in it), and 2, with the way mine rakes from the factory...do you think these 4" lift spindles and a 3" block in the rear would be a nice level lift? If i do a lift at all...it's just gonna be for looks. If i don't, i might just hang the back to get it level. I don't mind a lowered truck either, used to be real into that scene when i was younger.
4” spindles in the front and 2” blocks in the back will be level. Yes you can use your stock front springs. Thanks for watching. Please subscribe
@@HarmonGarage thanks for getting back to me! I subscribed:)
Appreciate the content. I have a 1970 Chevy C20 long bed that I really want to lift but like you I’m having a hard time finding any kits. Any ideas?
What type of front suspension does it have?
You would have to take some measurements but you may be able to put the 73-87 suspension components on it and do the same thing I did
@@HarmonGarage it has the stock set up with coils in front and leafs in rear. Did you get a solid 4” with the new spindle?
Yes
Hey Hammond may I ask how you got the wheel hubs I'm trying to find some and I'm not having any luck
Harmon*
The hubs? Spindles or brake rotors?
Do you have to have big block springs
You don’t have to.
Will a stock height 73-87 spring be sufficient for this lift?
It will work.
How much did this project cost you
It was 3+ years ago when I did it but I think between $1000 and $2000 dollars
@HarmonGarage awesome thanks for the quick reply do you have any update videos
@Bedroomeyes3972 there is a “longstep”. Playlist. It’s the full build of the truck
So glad I found your video you’re the man L0L
I’m a novice don’t know much about it but I have an 84C 10 I would like to lift 2 inches. I have two questions for someone. One is at about the 24 minute mark you mention that it was kind of tough putting it together because when you try to put parts together that we’re not purposed that can happen. First question is is there anything that you can tell me about that that would help the guy that’s going to try to do this for me ?
My next question is you’re lifting 4 inches I think I would like to lift only two so my question is can you tell me do you think that will work and one exact part is different than what you’ve done? May seem like a very ignorant question and it is because I just don’t know
Thank you
Thanks for watching. First thing in my opinion no question is dumb if you ask it. I have not done a 2 inch lift on one of these trucks but to only lift it 2 inches you can probably get away with only a heavy duty or lift spring in the front and then a 2 inch block in the rear. As far as it being tough to put it together will all different parts, it’s not all that bad. This one in the video actually went really smooth. You just have to take a little more attention to detail when the parts aren’t necessarily made to go together. Hopefully this helps. If not keep asking questions.
Why did you change the rotors
Because the 73 rotors have different spindle and bearing size. And the rotor offset for the caliper is different.
I have a 71 g30 I want to lift think something like this may work? Hard to find anything
I think the suspension is very similar. I would look up and see if the parts for the c10 and the G30 are the same. control arms, ball joints, etc. if they are it will work. i havent done much with the vans so im not 100% sure
Super cool.
Did it change the track? Will you need to use different offset wheels to match the hub bearing design?
Still. Great way to breathe life into these old trucks.
It’s far from being done. Won’t drive it for awhile. I did another one before I started TH-cam and in drove fine. Wheel offsets are the same. Thanks for watching
How are you lifting the rear? Just blocks? Do I need to replace the stock rear shocks?
Yes. 4 in blocks in the rear with longer shocks
@@HarmonGarage ah thanks, got all I need. I appreciate your help!
Sorry I only put 2 inch blocks in the rear. To make it level. I was half asleep when I responded. But still needed longer shocks
@@HarmonGarage my spring doesn’t come out the way it does in your video. The control arm doesn’t drop all the way down, would I have to remove the whole knuckle in order for it to fully drop?
You shouldn’t. If you have the spindle disconnected it should drop down far enough for the spring to come out. You might have to push it down
Hey Harmon I have a 68 C10 long bed with coil springs on the rear I want to fit 285s tires, may be like a 4 inch left would do. Any recommendations on what I could do? I would really appreciate your help. For the rear I think I figured it out. But for the front I have no idea and I’ve looked everywhere and nobody has anything
I haven’t done much with the 67-72. Let me do a little research and I will let you know
Thank you very much sir really appreciate it
Do you know about how much this cost you I’m looking to do the same thing
I’m not sure. The guy I’m building the truck for bought all the parts
$1500
$1500
could this be done on a 67-72 c20?
I believe the suspension is different. I don’t know for sure
Would this front lift and blocks work for a 1973 C20?
Yes. You just use c2500 rotors to get the 8 lug
@@HarmonGarage Everything else, including the spindles, should work with those 2500 rotors?
@@HarmonGarage Also, what diameter rotors would be the best to use?
You need the c2500 rotors, bearings, and calipers.
Should only be one diameter
Where did you get the 4 inch lift spindles?
Rough country. The part number is in the description.
I can’t tell if that is a 5 or 6 bolt pattern?
It’s 5 lug
hey @harmon garage i have a 1991 chevy r3500 square body c 30 crew cab 3+3 and cannot find any lift kits in the 5-8 range do you have any help
Not off the top of my head , but I can look around and see what I can find
@@HarmonGarage thank you
No problem
You can do the same thing that I did on the c10 it will give you 4-5 inches of lift in the front. Just use c2500 rotors instead of the c1500 ones
I have a gmc C3500 2wd, would that same process work with that? Or would I just need the 4” spindles to raise it?
You just need spindles and ball joints. Outer tie rods and 88-98 c2500 brakes
Alright brother I have a c20 I’m trying to level out to 4 inches what would I need in order to do that ??
It’s an 84
The same stuff I used in this video. Just get brakes for a 91 2500
Alright sounds good appreciate it 🤝
How much does it lift it up ?
@@ubaldomares4315 about 4” in the front and 2 in the rear
Would the same parts 88-98 C25/3500 work for 81-87 C20-C30?
The same parts that I used off the c1500 will work on the c20-c30.
I'd prefer to keep it as a 8 lug.
Yes. You can use the c2500 rotors. The lift spindles are for c1500 hd and c2500
Will all these parts work on my 85 c20?
Yes they will
Hey Aaron, the truck I have is a c20 8 lug. I want to keep my 8 lug rims in front, is this possible with this lifted spindle? If so what do I need?
Just get c2500 rotors and calipers
Might be a stupid question but would a 2500 wheel bearing mesh with the lifted rough country spindle? I might be over thinking this….
Yes. I believe if you look at the description for the spindles they are for 1500-2500
All I can see if 1500 for fit… I guess I can just see if I can find a bearing for the c20 rotor and see if it fits this lifted hub.
Yes sir
What did you do to the rear? @john8701
Lift blocks
@@HarmonGaragethank you! You have the part number
@IceTown23 no I don’t. They were just 2 or 3 inch blocks from the parts store
@IceTown23 I think 2 inch
@@HarmonGarage thank you
Doing this lift on my c10 would 35s fit with 15x10 wheels?
I think 35s would fit but you would lose a lot of steering with the 15x10. 35s on 15x8 would be much better
Thank you so much
No problem, thanks for watching. Please subscribe
Hey bud awesome job can’t wait to see more of project longstep. By the way I got another F-150 it’s a 2010. I still have the brown one. I have a question for you about the 2010. Can I call you tomorrow? To get your advice on it because I have a problem with the driver door.
Thanks bud. Go ahead and give me a call.
I’m having the same issue I wanted a 12 inch lift kit or at least a 8 inch lift on my 2wd but there is nothing above a 6 what do you recommend?
I don’t think you can get that much.
My only guess is do what he’s doing, along with 3” coil spring lift, ball joint spacers, and another 3” body lift. The only thing is that you’ll have to get your suspension realigned and it’ll ride a little rough. But in theory you’ll get about 10.5” of lift?
@@metalupyour69 would it be easy just to go with the 6inch lift and 3inch body ?
Will this work on a 87?
Yes sir
Do you use the original front shocks(73-87) or 88-98?
Originals for the 73-87
They run around 1750$ so they're not cheap.
What does?
I'm going your route-fyi- and saving 800 bucks.
Good deal
If you knew you were gonna be doing this job, why didn’t you go rent on buy a coil spring compressor tool???
I never use them.
You don't know what you ared doing
Thanks for your opinions
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Great video!
I have an 86 GMC High Sierra 2WD. I’d like to lift it 4 inches.
What parts do you recommend I use to lift it?
Thanks
I have a c20 8 lug could I use the 4 inch spindle lift from rough country for the 88-99 c1500/k1500 and just go with brake rotors from an 88-98 2500 HD?
Yes
Hey I tried doing this and it’s not fitting so just to make sure it’s the c1500 4 inch spindle from RC and 8 lug rotors from a 91 c2500? And which bearing do I use?
The bearings for the 88-98