Great scene! I knew Todd was faking it when he became reasonable all of a sudden and said he had to get back for the kids and he wasn't going to try to kill Mitch. That was completely false lol
Todd's self hatred really shows here. He doesn't even always believe that Vicki loves him never mind Blair or Tea with whom its more complicated. Vicki is so good for him, though.
@@The_skyisbeautiful Mitch killed Harry instead of Clint. 1985 - 86 storyline. Mitch drugged Nikki Smith (Viki) to trap Clint. Before becoming a Cult Leader.
I would have loved for Erika Slezak go on The UK Soap Opera Eastenders as a distant american relative of Janine Butcher. That is heartbreaking. First your Father abuses you then Mitch puts in the pre date rape drug. On the UK Soap Opera Hollyoaks Sam Owen a College Student was desperate to get laid, he allowed his friend to talk him into spiking drinks and having sex. Todd was such an arrogant SOB back in the day, I would have loved for there to have been a Storyline where a Man gets raped and see how it affects them. On The UK Soap Opera Michael "Mick" Carter was in a foster care home where he repressed memories of having sex. His Foster Care Guardian Katy had "sex" when he was a teenager, and got pregnant for him. Katy eventually went to Prison for about 20 Years for what she did.
I dont think she ever forgave him but they got closure in that excellent scene by Marty's fire place when he explained why he raped her. It was sadly the first time u could see a what if. Todd saying that if he had stayed to comfort her then maybe " things would have worked out " I know the gang rape story was so superbly done that it brought Emmys to roger , Susan & hilary smith & the writing team. I mean it's a wierd situation. Todd became this epic character bc of the gang rape. It was the one story that was referenced over & over til the end of the show. But if todd had not raped Marty & they had just hooked up todd & marty would it have been as interesting. Maybe bc roho & sh had amazing chemistry. I never liked any of Marty's pairings. Suede & dylan were boring. Patrick became such a self righteous prick. After that she was with john. U just remember how when ever they gave Marty & todd scenes susan just came to life. She was too saccharine sweet with suede & dylan & Patrick. She came alive in any scene with roger
She did forgive him, and told him so. They had three or four conversations where he apologized to her and during one of those she told him she forgave him
Somehow they redeemed todd i guess. I heard about what he did but didn't watch the episodes he did them in. I know he had some other stuff involving takiny the kids at times from blair. Their on again off again relationship. It's complicated too bc tsj took over the role also and then they changed that story in all different ways then roger came back to the role. I think they should have kept tsj as Walker. Idk though. He also played flinn (sp?)
Viki and Todd's scenes were always amazing!
I have always loved when Roger as Todd got to say some mean spirited yet very funny lines.
What range Roger Howarth has!
this is the TODD I know and care about. All that emotions happening all at once and the constant guilt I miss that.
Yes!
todd looks drop dead georous here I love him.
She should be on GH. I would love her interaction with Franco.
As someone who is legally blind in both eyes I found the Helen Kellar joke funny not offensive.
These 2 were so great together!
Great scene! I knew Todd was faking it when he became reasonable all of a sudden and said he had to get back for the kids and he wasn't going to try to kill Mitch. That was completely false lol
Now that is FUNNY, Bo would arrest Helen Keller for ease dropping........LMFAO!!!!!!!
Erika's hair and makeup is super cute.
he looks so good in that leather jacket!
Todd's self hatred really shows here. He doesn't even always believe that Vicki loves him never mind Blair or Tea with whom its more complicated. Vicki is so good for him, though.
Mitch had changed the destiny of many people. Viki, Jessica, Natalie, Todd, Harry O Neil, etc
Who's Harry?
@@The_skyisbeautiful Mitch killed Harry instead of Clint. 1985 - 86 storyline. Mitch drugged Nikki Smith (Viki) to trap Clint. Before becoming a Cult Leader.
@@vasiparvin5113 thank you
Oh and they have the clip on TH-cam. I see this story went on a bit bc there is also a trial for his murder.
@@The_skyisbeautiful yes
Wow RH is so handsome here. Haircut and all! What year was this?? 2002ish? Can anyone believe this was that long ago???
I know right?? The craziest thing is he still looks fantastic in 2024.
I would have loved for Erika Slezak go on The UK Soap Opera Eastenders as a distant american relative of Janine Butcher. That is heartbreaking. First your Father abuses you then Mitch puts in the pre date rape drug. On the UK Soap Opera Hollyoaks Sam Owen a College Student was desperate to get laid, he allowed his friend to talk him into spiking drinks and having sex. Todd was such an arrogant SOB back in the day, I would have loved for there to have been a Storyline where a Man gets raped and see how it affects them. On The UK Soap Opera Michael "Mick" Carter was in a foster care home where he repressed memories of having sex. His Foster Care Guardian Katy had "sex" when he was a teenager, and got pregnant for him. Katy eventually went to Prison for about 20 Years for what she did.
OG Todd 😍✨
Mitch's crazy
Amazing scene. What year did this air?
2003 nyc 78.
Late 2002/early 2003.
This is def 2002. The tree shows it's near Christmas of 2002 bc todd was gone in every 03.
Best relationship on oltl
Todd is kind of annoying here, Viki just told him she got raped and he's making it all about himself
When did Marty forgive Todd?
I dont think she ever forgave him but they got closure in that excellent scene by Marty's fire place when he explained why he raped her. It was sadly the first time u could see a what if. Todd saying that if he had stayed to comfort her then maybe " things would have worked out " I know the gang rape story was so superbly done that it brought Emmys to roger , Susan & hilary smith & the writing team. I mean it's a wierd situation. Todd became this epic character bc of the gang rape. It was the one story that was referenced over & over til the end of the show. But if todd had not raped Marty & they had just hooked up todd & marty would it have been as interesting. Maybe bc roho & sh had amazing chemistry. I never liked any of Marty's pairings. Suede & dylan were boring. Patrick became such a self righteous prick. After that she was with john. U just remember how when ever they gave Marty & todd scenes susan just came to life. She was too saccharine sweet with suede & dylan & Patrick. She came alive in any scene with roger
She did forgive him, and told him so. They had three or four conversations where he apologized to her and during one of those she told him she forgave him
Somehow they redeemed todd i guess. I heard about what he did but didn't watch the episodes he did them in. I know he had some other stuff involving takiny the kids at times from blair. Their on again off again relationship. It's complicated too bc tsj took over the role also and then they changed that story in all different ways then roger came back to the role. I think they should have kept tsj as Walker. Idk though. He also played flinn (sp?)
He was always a villain who lied and manipulated and tended to hurt those around him. But he was complex and lovable in some ways, also.
@@debb481 true
wow.franco was todd before Todd was Tadd then franco was Todd again .
What?
Todd was created before Franco
Roger was a horrible actor
He's fantastic and you know it. He's next level