we use a local company called sherry labs. You can probably just google "metallurgical lab" and find one near you. As for the composite we already know the metal we pour for each casting, we purchase different alloy ingots from our ingot supplier. A356, 319, 713. The only reason we do the lab checks is to confirm the castings are to spec for our customers that require a quality part. Usually these parts are used in pressure sensitive jobs that could fail if the casting is weak in any area.
No its still going, I've just been extremely busy with other jobs at work, our machine shop manager left about a month or two after this video was made so all his work was handed to me. The blower is currently on the machine and ready to be cut, i just need time to do it.
This machine shop is owned by my uncle who use to work for our company. his shop is purely for tooling. You can see our machine shop which is geared for production at the 10 minute mark in this video. /watch?v=4PD0NNck30M
Very impressive, 23 days to make the mold parts in a large cnc machine. The cost would be phenomenal. I guess they don't make 671s anymore but why not just buy a new blower? like a roots style or wipple etc? Like the others say you are very informative in the process. thankyou.
This is what I like to see, 100% American made. Not 80%, not assembled in the USA, not imported all the parts and metal to the USA then made, no made in the USA with illegal immigrants, not made by those who dont take there job seriously and with no care or love.
@ Garen Phillips amazing this is about my 4th time watching this video when you send metal out to find out what it consist of what ''lab'' is that that can find out the composition of metals ? I've always wanted to know that. Are the they ones who do the X ray as well what program would you need to view the X ray results ?
Great video dude, did you learn all this by starting at the bottom of the pole or did you go to school for some of it. This video really makes me wanna go take a class on machinery, you know something to do with machine shop stuff. I've always wanted to work at a machine shop but when you start at the bottom the pay isn't that great so I stick with what I know and that is sheet metal fabricator.I do build muscle car engines on the side. Looking forward to seeing more videos from ya, later dude.
No schooling, i took 1 CAD class(after doing it for a year or two) and found i taught myself in a day what the school took 6 weeks to get through, so i said screw it, i'll teach myself anything i need to know and make money instead of go into debt. I started working at the foundry when i was 15 sweeping the floors, doing yard work, cleaning machines, all the low level stuff. Once i was 18 i started operating(not programming) CNC's, grinding, die cast machines, trim presses, molding, pretty much everything from A-Z in the shop and learn what it took to make something. Some where in the middle of that(17-19) i learned what a CAD software was and started designing/learning on my own time at home. Right after this video was shot, our CNC shop manager/programmer left so i was throw all his responsibility and work. Now i mainly program CNC's and make fixtures for new jobs. I don't particularly like it cause it's pretty basic stuff that isn't very challenging but bills have to be pay and our employees need to feed their families. I actually take pride in telling people i almost failed high school, my father didn't go to college, my grandfather(started the business in 47') dropped out in the 6th grade and my uncle, he owns the shop in this video, graduated HS with literally a 0.0 GPA. I want to be able to show people that you don't necessarily have to go to college to be educated or skilled at something. Not saying college is a bad thing and in certain fields of work it is definitely important(doctors,lawyers, ect.) I was definitely in a position of opportunity that most will never get but most of my design/CNC knowledge was learned from the internet, the experience of doing it just builds confidence and efficiency. the basics of CNC'ing aren't terribly complicated actually, it looks like it is and is really intimidating but its not. You have to know like 10-15 basic commands and what they do and then the rest is just XYZ(coordinate cartesian). You can literally learn to design, build and run a CNC online now. I've been wanting to build one and video it but don't have the money to do so. I just bought some material to build a burn our kiln for investment casting stuff so i'll probably be making a video of that soon.
dzuari Dude, you're an inspiration man. I found your videos while researching repraps, it's nice to see other folks out there finding success in their lives by chasing their dreams instead of following the same path as everyone else, going to college, getting the same degrees, competing for the same jobs, sucking up to the same bosses, and never truly enjoying their work. I wasted a few years of my life in college, pursuing the medical career my parents convinced me that I wanted. Eventually I realized it wasn't for me, and by the time I quit college I was too late and too deep in debt for trade schools to be an option. So I also taught myself pretty much everything I know, on the internet. I've been obsessed with engines and building cars since I was little, but never had a good opportunity to learn from anyone but myself. I'm currently working to build my own shop, and purchase/learn to operate more interesting tools like welders, a lathe, and bridgeport mill. Hearing stories like yours is what keeps me going :) How does the machined mold compare to the 3d printed molds I see in some of your other videos?
BeenJamin James In this video the mold isn't actually the machined piece, the machined part is the pattern which makes the mold(black sand mold). The big machine in the video that makes the greensand mold actually squeezes the sand together with around 1000-2000lbs of force. so far we have been successfully running 3D printed flatback(no offset parting line) patterns without any failure. Our rear bearing plates are actually made from a 3D printed pattern. If you ever get a chance to see one at a car show or something, take a look at the insides of the bearing bosses next to the "DPI", you'll be able to see some faint lines of the 3D printed layers. www.diamondp.com/DP_Rear_Bearing_Plate_Assembly_Polished_p/dp-0011-103-300.htm Best of luck to you with starting your own shop, I'll give you some advice though, going from an employee/shop floor working to understanding more and more about the business side of the shop, i can tell you that being a machinist and being a shop owner are too completely different jobs. Be prepared to not only be a welder, machine operator/programmer, fabricator, ect but to also being an accountant, a purchasing agent, a controller, customer service, salesmen, quality and control and a lot more. I'd do a lot of research on successful people and how they started their business. I saw a video or interview of Bre Petis(Creator of Makerbot) and he talked about how he probably spent 80-90% of his time in the first 2 years just handling customer service calls. Doing what i do now is very different than what i was doing 4 years ago, and i'm not strictly speaking of skill and/or labor of the job, just the mentality and environment. The closer you get to entrepreneurship or doing your own thing, the more freedom and/or enjoyment you'll probably have but it will also come with more pressure, dead lines, headaches and financial risks. There is some days i wish i could just go back to pushing the start button for 8 hours on the CNC machines. Kinda like how we've all probably said at sometime or another, I wish i was just back in kindergarten with recess and nap time. In the end it's worth it though.
dzuari I was speaking more about building my own personal shop to satisfy my addiction for constant tinkering and meddling with things, however I do intend to eventually use my personal shop as a springboard to launch a business. I'm well aware of the frustration involved in running a business, and it's not a task I take lightly. I did take a few classes on marketing/accounting/business law/intellectual property law/etc in college so I have a start, but there's more learning left to do. That kind of responsibility isn't for everyone, but running my own business is my dream job and is totally worth it! :) As for now, my focus is toward my own personal shop and getting some basic fabrication tools together. Currently working on building a prusa mendel, once I get the shop finished I'll add a bridgeport mill, bench lathe, mig welder, and a few other items to the list as well as attempt to build a larger printer capable of extruding high temperature nylons. When I have my own personal shop here at home and start producing my own parts, once I come up with marketable products I'll think about starting a business at that point. Truth is there's so many things I wish I could manufacture for my own cars, even if I never made a dime the cost of building a shop would still be worth it, as I'm quite a gearhead and tinkerer. I'd be tickled pink if I had the resources to fabricate my own parts from all the ideas in my head. Too often I've had a need for a certain bracket or part when building a car, and no option existed other than an expensive and often impractical aftermarket kit. The idea of casting aluminum parts from sacrificial PLA molds especially fascinates me, as it seems to likely be a very practical and efficient method of creating castings where only one or two parts are required. I do hope you will produce more videos in the future, as I've noticed you haven't posted any new videos in almost 2 years.
BeenJamin James ya i want to do more videos, I've just been so busy with work, we had a rough 4Q last year because of the purchase of the powdercoat line. I want to make more but by the end of the day im just so drained. I've got some 3D printed parts sitting in my office right now just waiting to be investment cast into metal, it will be a really cool video, just need to do it. A product is definitely the way to go, your profit margins will be much higher than trying to provide a service(what we do) and a lot less headache. 90% of our jobs work around 10-15% profit, so there is little margin for errors and scraping parts, we have an entire shop floor control software and system that tracks all our work time on any job that runs through our shop so we know down to the cent what it cost us. Anything above 15% and we can't compete with other foundries and even then we usually come in high compared to competitors, luckily our niche is quality and delivery time which some prefer to pay the extra for. If our shop was gone tomorrow, I'd do exactly what you're wanting to do, have a small fab shop and develop a product then source it. It's much much much, much cheaper to prototype on your own than to pay someone. Check out Vader systems, www.vadersystems.com/ they are supposedly developing a liquid aluminum jet printer that deposits liquid droplets of aluminum using magnetic fields. Just concepts and talk right now and proposed to be 10-15k i believe but if it comes out and works properly, it will probably be the start of cost effective aluminum prototypes. The future of manufacturing in America is going to be pretty interesting, a lot of people don't realize it yet but these little machines are going to replace a lot of typically mass produced parts and have a huge impact in the dynamics of conventional production. Its actually kinda scary since, well, my job is conventional production. I'm probably safe until they can hold tolerances +-0.001, hopefully.
Sucks on the machine a friend of mine has one and it's always braking down he is always sending the controllers or computers I don't know what is call but sucks for him we live in New Mexico and he has to send the parts to Chicago something like that and also it is expensive to repair
Was glad to see this is a old video... with the hours it's no wonder why cnc are the wave of the future
Awesome video! Super cool products all are making. All else i can say is wow!!
Thanks for making this video. Extremely interesting. Looking forward to Part 2.
Great video! I am looking forward to part 2.
cool, glad to hear its still planned for completion. .
we use a local company called sherry labs. You can probably just google "metallurgical lab" and find one near you. As for the composite we already know the metal we pour for each casting, we purchase different alloy ingots from our ingot supplier. A356, 319, 713.
The only reason we do the lab checks is to confirm the castings are to spec for our customers that require a quality part. Usually these parts are used in pressure sensitive jobs that could fail if the casting is weak in any area.
Thanks for the reply bud.I hope too see more of your videos REAL SOON. Later dude.
No its still going, I've just been extremely busy with other jobs at work, our machine shop manager left about a month or two after this video was made so all his work was handed to me. The blower is currently on the machine and ready to be cut, i just need time to do it.
This machine shop is owned by my uncle who use to work for our company. his shop is purely for tooling. You can see our machine shop which is geared for production at the 10 minute mark in this video. /watch?v=4PD0NNck30M
Very impressive, 23 days to make the mold parts in a large cnc machine. The cost would be phenomenal. I guess they don't make 671s anymore but why not just buy a new blower? like a roots style or wipple etc? Like the others say you are very informative in the process. thankyou.
I passed on your video a few yrs ago the Pre Engineering student at Lakewood High school in Ohio
Waiting to see the production version......any word on availability yet Garen?
This is what I like to see, 100% American made. Not 80%, not assembled in the USA, not imported all the parts and metal to the USA then made, no made in the USA with illegal immigrants, not made by those who dont take there job seriously and with no care or love.
That's a wicked bandsaw.
thats awesome!
awesome, why no part 2 though? did the project fall through?
How much does something like this cost?
If I wanted a custom intake manifold with additional boost ports for boost/vacuum, bov, meth injection ports.
Ah yes, the CMTR's. I spent almost 34 years looking at those in the Nuclear Power Industry.
@ Garen Phillips amazing this is about my 4th time watching this video when you send metal out to find out what it consist of what ''lab'' is that that can find out the composition of metals ? I've always wanted to know that. Are the they ones who do the X ray as well what program would you need to view the X ray results ?
Just watched this video for the first time. AWESOME. Do you own this machine shop???? Do you do production work there? or just "one off" stuff?
What will the retail price be on that, when it hits the street?
Great video dude, did you learn all this by starting at the bottom of the pole or did you go to school for some of it. This video really makes me wanna go take a class on machinery, you know something to do with machine shop stuff. I've always wanted to work at a machine shop but when you start at the bottom the pay isn't that great so I stick with what I know and that is sheet metal fabricator.I do build muscle car engines on the side. Looking forward to seeing more videos from ya, later dude.
No schooling, i took 1 CAD class(after doing it for a year or two) and found i taught myself in a day what the school took 6 weeks to get through, so i said screw it, i'll teach myself anything i need to know and make money instead of go into debt.
I started working at the foundry when i was 15 sweeping the floors, doing yard work, cleaning machines, all the low level stuff. Once i was 18 i started operating(not programming) CNC's, grinding, die cast machines, trim presses, molding, pretty much everything from A-Z in the shop and learn what it took to make something. Some where in the middle of that(17-19) i learned what a CAD software was and started designing/learning on my own time at home. Right after this video was shot, our CNC shop manager/programmer left so i was throw all his responsibility and work. Now i mainly program CNC's and make fixtures for new jobs. I don't particularly like it cause it's pretty basic stuff that isn't very challenging but bills have to be pay and our employees need to feed their families.
I actually take pride in telling people i almost failed high school, my father didn't go to college, my grandfather(started the business in 47') dropped out in the 6th grade and my uncle, he owns the shop in this video, graduated HS with literally a 0.0 GPA. I want to be able to show people that you don't necessarily have to go to college to be educated or skilled at something. Not saying college is a bad thing and in certain fields of work it is definitely important(doctors,lawyers, ect.) I was definitely in a position of opportunity that most will never get but most of my design/CNC knowledge was learned from the internet, the experience of doing it just builds confidence and efficiency. the basics of CNC'ing aren't terribly complicated actually, it looks like it is and is really intimidating but its not. You have to know like 10-15 basic commands and what they do and then the rest is just XYZ(coordinate cartesian). You can literally learn to design, build and run a CNC online now.
I've been wanting to build one and video it but don't have the money to do so. I just bought some material to build a burn our kiln for investment casting stuff so i'll probably be making a video of that soon.
dzuari
Dude, you're an inspiration man. I found your videos while researching repraps, it's nice to see other folks out there finding success in their lives by chasing their dreams instead of following the same path as everyone else, going to college, getting the same degrees, competing for the same jobs, sucking up to the same bosses, and never truly enjoying their work. I wasted a few years of my life in college, pursuing the medical career my parents convinced me that I wanted. Eventually I realized it wasn't for me, and by the time I quit college I was too late and too deep in debt for trade schools to be an option. So I also taught myself pretty much everything I know, on the internet. I've been obsessed with engines and building cars since I was little, but never had a good opportunity to learn from anyone but myself. I'm currently working to build my own shop, and purchase/learn to operate more interesting tools like welders, a lathe, and bridgeport mill. Hearing stories like yours is what keeps me going :)
How does the machined mold compare to the 3d printed molds I see in some of your other videos?
BeenJamin James In this video the mold isn't actually the machined piece, the machined part is the pattern which makes the mold(black sand mold). The big machine in the video that makes the greensand mold actually squeezes the sand together with around 1000-2000lbs of force. so far we have been successfully running 3D printed flatback(no offset parting line) patterns without any failure. Our rear bearing plates are actually made from a 3D printed pattern. If you ever get a chance to see one at a car show or something, take a look at the insides of the bearing bosses next to the "DPI", you'll be able to see some faint lines of the 3D printed layers.
www.diamondp.com/DP_Rear_Bearing_Plate_Assembly_Polished_p/dp-0011-103-300.htm
Best of luck to you with starting your own shop, I'll give you some advice though, going from an employee/shop floor working to understanding more and more about the business side of the shop, i can tell you that being a machinist and being a shop owner are too completely different jobs. Be prepared to not only be a welder, machine operator/programmer, fabricator, ect but to also being an accountant, a purchasing agent, a controller, customer service, salesmen, quality and control and a lot more. I'd do a lot of research on successful people and how they started their business. I saw a video or interview of Bre Petis(Creator of Makerbot) and he talked about how he probably spent 80-90% of his time in the first 2 years just handling customer service calls.
Doing what i do now is very different than what i was doing 4 years ago, and i'm not strictly speaking of skill and/or labor of the job, just the mentality and environment. The closer you get to entrepreneurship or doing your own thing, the more freedom and/or enjoyment you'll probably have but it will also come with more pressure, dead lines, headaches and financial risks. There is some days i wish i could just go back to pushing the start button for 8 hours on the CNC machines. Kinda like how we've all probably said at sometime or another, I wish i was just back in kindergarten with recess and nap time.
In the end it's worth it though.
dzuari
I was speaking more about building my own personal shop to satisfy my addiction for constant tinkering and meddling with things, however I do intend to eventually use my personal shop as a springboard to launch a business. I'm well aware of the frustration involved in running a business, and it's not a task I take lightly. I did take a few classes on marketing/accounting/business law/intellectual property law/etc in college so I have a start, but there's more learning left to do. That kind of responsibility isn't for everyone, but running my own business is my dream job and is totally worth it! :)
As for now, my focus is toward my own personal shop and getting some basic fabrication tools together. Currently working on building a prusa mendel, once I get the shop finished I'll add a bridgeport mill, bench lathe, mig welder, and a few other items to the list as well as attempt to build a larger printer capable of extruding high temperature nylons. When I have my own personal shop here at home and start producing my own parts, once I come up with marketable products I'll think about starting a business at that point. Truth is there's so many things I wish I could manufacture for my own cars, even if I never made a dime the cost of building a shop would still be worth it, as I'm quite a gearhead and tinkerer.
I'd be tickled pink if I had the resources to fabricate my own parts from all the ideas in my head. Too often I've had a need for a certain bracket or part when building a car, and no option existed other than an expensive and often impractical aftermarket kit. The idea of casting aluminum parts from sacrificial PLA molds especially fascinates me, as it seems to likely be a very practical and efficient method of creating castings where only one or two parts are required. I do hope you will produce more videos in the future, as I've noticed you haven't posted any new videos in almost 2 years.
BeenJamin James ya i want to do more videos, I've just been so busy with work, we had a rough 4Q last year because of the purchase of the powdercoat line. I want to make more but by the end of the day im just so drained. I've got some 3D printed parts sitting in my office right now just waiting to be investment cast into metal, it will be a really cool video, just need to do it.
A product is definitely the way to go, your profit margins will be much higher than trying to provide a service(what we do) and a lot less headache. 90% of our jobs work around 10-15% profit, so there is little margin for errors and scraping parts, we have an entire shop floor control software and system that tracks all our work time on any job that runs through our shop so we know down to the cent what it cost us. Anything above 15% and we can't compete with other foundries and even then we usually come in high compared to competitors, luckily our niche is quality and delivery time which some prefer to pay the extra for.
If our shop was gone tomorrow, I'd do exactly what you're wanting to do, have a small fab shop and develop a product then source it. It's much much much, much cheaper to prototype on your own than to pay someone. Check out Vader systems, www.vadersystems.com/ they are supposedly developing a liquid aluminum jet printer that deposits liquid droplets of aluminum using magnetic fields. Just concepts and talk right now and proposed to be 10-15k i believe but if it comes out and works properly, it will probably be the start of cost effective aluminum prototypes.
The future of manufacturing in America is going to be pretty interesting, a lot of people don't realize it yet but these little machines are going to replace a lot of typically mass produced parts and have a huge impact in the dynamics of conventional production. Its actually kinda scary since, well, my job is conventional production. I'm probably safe until they can hold tolerances +-0.001, hopefully.
very cool for me to see thanks
What would it cost to have a Peugeot v6 intake manifold made?
What was the name of the machinable plastic you were milling?
Cool man
What is that pink material the coreboxes are made of?
Roxanne!
I need this.. how can i get
Oops, sorry I see you said it in the video! Thanks!
I just saw u in french tv !
Ha, you saw me on TV in France?
+Garen Phillips m.france5.fr/emission/au-coeur-des-machines/diffusion-du-31-07-2016-13h40
Ah, i can't watch it due to regional block but I'm guessing it was the making of the Tippmann paintball guns in our die cast?
solidworks? :)
Sucks on the machine a friend of mine has one and it's always braking down he is always sending the controllers or computers I don't know what is call but sucks for him we live in New Mexico and he has to send the parts to Chicago something like that and also it is expensive to repair
Ya, mazak's are definitely fun to fix.
how many guys have cut there hands off on that saw.
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