BJT - Voltage Divider Bias Circuit

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  • Learn how a BJT voltage divider bias circuit works and why it is the preferred method of biasing a BJT. Two different analysis methods are shown; a more precise one and one where you assume the base current is effectively 0.
    David Williams
    www.elen.ca

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  • @mrkattm
    @mrkattm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Awesome job, I am EE, graduated in 1992 from SVSU, I was feeling a little nostalgic for the those simpler college days when I came across your video and decided to watch. All I can say is that I wished that I had these types of resources available to me when I was learning this material, you did an excellent job, keep up the great work.

    • @homerodaniel_007
      @homerodaniel_007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh my god, you got your degree when I was born. I want to be a professional EE in the future.

    • @guntherzoldy1342
      @guntherzoldy1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@homerodaniel_007 Just started EE in Uni, a tough ride so far and these videos are a lifesaving resource. I was born 2002, so I'm really lucky to have grown up with videos like these.

  • @gideonsaina5199
    @gideonsaina5199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    More than 3 years after graduating, I am now understanding this. Thank you so much.

    • @thepianist817
      @thepianist817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lmao

    • @iluvyunie
      @iluvyunie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, only 4 years to go then I guess I'll get it 😅

    • @AdityaYadav-lv8zd
      @AdityaYadav-lv8zd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why do you need to understand them now?

  • @spinloki
    @spinloki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Incredible video and explanations. I was able to get past a ton of homework problems thanks to you!

  • @yvesbouchard5197
    @yvesbouchard5197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for such a crystal clear explanation of a VDB-BJT.

  • @xMrJanuaryx
    @xMrJanuaryx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now this was a great example thank you very much! Bonus I asked my professor and he said he is fine with me making the assumption that Ib is zero if I make that argument you showed me!

  • @montezeminor2854
    @montezeminor2854 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation, and delivery of material content. Thoroughly explained in detailed information describing the devices characteristics and biasing approaches.

  • @zacktakahashi468
    @zacktakahashi468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks David ,you are my true teacher,keep going

  • @blalmal10a
    @blalmal10a 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    thanks man.. why am i not searching for vids at the first time??
    i'm so glad... all the books and pdf.s provide nonsense derivations

  • @carlgradolph9676
    @carlgradolph9676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a very clear and helpful explanation. I now have a much better understanding of how to set up a bias circuit for a BJT, and why a certain amount of "slop" necessarily occurs when calculating actual voltage, current, and resistance values.

  • @eepower
    @eepower 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job simplifying this ckt. Thanks for the great job. It does help lots of ppl. Highly recommended

  • @zackkassner3374
    @zackkassner3374 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an amazing video. The way you explained this made it very easy to understand. Thank you so much!

  • @shashankbiswas4130
    @shashankbiswas4130 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you made this so simple...thanks..

  • @JCooperAudioSystems
    @JCooperAudioSystems 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making this very *CLEAR* plain English video. I can definitely understand your Canadian English.

  • @orpheneh
    @orpheneh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love you david, so glad for you

  • @Festus2022
    @Festus2022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Addresses some of my longstanding questions. Thank you!

  • @arthuryeung671
    @arthuryeung671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation sir! Now I understand what's going on there

  • @alfredoshamed3254
    @alfredoshamed3254 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats! You are antes excellent teacher!

  • @mileslegend
    @mileslegend 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As I was hovering looking for a perfect solution .. I just saw your the cover photo and I knew my problem is solved.... And guess what am just 4mins I to the video and I have understood everything... Thanks man .... 🔥🤗

  • @dingbop963
    @dingbop963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanation. Infinitely more helpful than a university professor

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much. Glad you think so!

  • @bryanbuildmindchanger1415
    @bryanbuildmindchanger1415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much . Your video has clarified all my doubt. Thanks once more

  • @maramaeolasiman8237
    @maramaeolasiman8237 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please add more examples sir for this specific topic because we really understand your explanation. Thank You Sir :)

  • @diazolguinoscar2629
    @diazolguinoscar2629 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best video i've seen so far, thank you.

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear. Thanks for your comment.

  • @chintumali2935
    @chintumali2935 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    explained very clearly thankuu

  • @puspamadak
    @puspamadak ปีที่แล้ว

    This video helped me understand the biasing of BJT. Thanks a lot sir!

  • @sudarshankj
    @sudarshankj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very clear explanation!

  • @Avionics1958
    @Avionics1958 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very comprehensive and well explained.

  • @warrickramnand9437
    @warrickramnand9437 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally someone that made me understand this theory. Thanks a lot.

  • @Kanterneit
    @Kanterneit 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best explanation

  • @refaymohamed2960
    @refaymohamed2960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, engineer, can we use it in the transmitter circuit for the of oscillation?

  • @gauravjhamnani8915
    @gauravjhamnani8915 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank youu..............clearly explained

  • @yakubumshelia1668
    @yakubumshelia1668 ปีที่แล้ว

    bless you sir. Great video

  • @elektroguz14
    @elektroguz14 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Work!

  • @RexxSchneider
    @RexxSchneider 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "short-cut" method calculates the quiescent collector current and dc bias points of a transistor that has infinite β. The stability of the dc bias against changes in β depends purely on the relative size of the emitter resistor Re. That resistor provides negative feedback that stabilises the operating points as well as reducing the distortion of the stage. It comes at the cost of lowering the voltage gain of the stage, which is 3 in this case. It also "absorbs" around 2.5V of the potential output swing.
    You can improve the performance of a common emitter by removing some of the negative feedback from the emitter resistance by lowering it, while providing a feedback path from the collector to the base. In other words, derive your base voltage bias (the positive end of R1) from the collector rather than the positive supply rail. Since the emitter resistor only needs to be more than 10 times the dynamic emitter resistance of the transistor (25mV/Ic) to provide reasonable linearity, the emitter can be usefully biased to as little as 250mV above ground, putting the base at about 900mV above ground. If you assume that the collector bias point is around half the supply voltage, you can quickly calculate the ratio of R1 to R2. Knowing the β will allow you to make R1 || R2 less than 1/10 of β.Re for any value of Re. That shows you that the input impedance of the stage is inversely proportional to the collector current, and (all else being equal) you should choose Ic to obtain whatever Zin is required. Somewhere between 1mA and 2mA with a β > 250 or so will result in an input impedance around 5K to 10K.
    That solution will allow reasonable gains of around 20 to 30 with good stability and linearity, while maintaining independence of transistor parameters. I recommend it to you.

  • @paulgazey2899
    @paulgazey2899 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the good video. How would you solve the question if there is also a resistor between base of transistor and opposite node? Thanks

  • @sadi3230
    @sadi3230 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much Sir..

  • @Amrhossam96
    @Amrhossam96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome job :D

  • @yeluntalan
    @yeluntalan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this explanation, how do we define Beta here?

  • @mustafaghanim9597
    @mustafaghanim9597 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the early voltage affect Ic in this type of calculations?

  • @nauraizsubhan01
    @nauraizsubhan01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot sir

  • @Ashish-_-
    @Ashish-_- 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very very much Man!

  • @lailakc9288
    @lailakc9288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you are one of the best teachers ever! Please make more videos related to EE courses. Thanks. GOD BLESS YOU!

  • @atankent
    @atankent 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hye. What is the software that you use to make this tutorial?

  • @homamalbakry7067
    @homamalbakry7067 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thnx bro u r amazing

  • @samsammy4220
    @samsammy4220 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're a legend

  • @wnk25
    @wnk25 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the resistor 'Re' be equal to zero in this circuit?

  • @tedtate57
    @tedtate57 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information. I'm in the process of refreshing my basic knowledge of electronics so I might be able to go further in depth. Q. Do you have videos on logic circuits?

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do have a number of videos on logic circuits. Some of them are in a Boolean Algebra playlist: th-cam.com/video/uAOoqfosyfE/w-d-xo.html

    • @tedtate57
      @tedtate57 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a million David. Your teaching skills and content are incredible.

  • @seankennedy8506
    @seankennedy8506 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So (Rth) is the same as the resistance at the base of the transistor so (Ib) times (Rth) will give me the voltage at the base of the transistor and therefore will give me the voltage at the resistor going to the ground (Rb2) does that sound right?

  • @shaonahamed1667
    @shaonahamed1667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much

  • @moadibnasir2526
    @moadibnasir2526 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankuuuu sooo muchhh for thiss😍 thankuu

  • @esuelle
    @esuelle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @mathushekmathu6735
    @mathushekmathu6735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful methode

  • @santoshdebakikrishna381
    @santoshdebakikrishna381 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing...

  • @claudioadam164
    @claudioadam164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how if i want to find the R1 and R2 while i know the the Vce?

  • @simozy4475
    @simozy4475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thx a lot bro

  • @CheckThisOut380
    @CheckThisOut380 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it make a difference if the upper side is wired not the lower ?

  • @lem09able
    @lem09able 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if there's a -VEE voltage source? How should I apply thevenin to it?

  • @mba2ceo
    @mba2ceo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    for Vth why can U disconnect the Rc ?

  • @balandraken4838
    @balandraken4838 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @slipnorris5882
    @slipnorris5882 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the Beta still in effect , even with the 10 times rule

  • @0Bariq0
    @0Bariq0 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you

  • @ha.w.s4992
    @ha.w.s4992 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks a lot
    From iraq 🇮🇶

  • @poetas84
    @poetas84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please explain how you calculate R(th) as being 8.33 KΩ ?

  • @knowall5792
    @knowall5792 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. How do you draw on the screen?

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. I use OneNote and a tablet and use Camtasia for screen capture.

  • @meth5475
    @meth5475 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you should clarify that the Thévenin resistance and voltage are taken from Base to datum node (GND). Otherwise it seems like you are doing 2-port analysis on just one point, the base, which obviously doesn't make sense. Other than that, great vid.

  • @simoncheung2427
    @simoncheung2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:16 could you explain why Rth +(b+1)*Re rather than Rth +Re. thanks

  • @waelfathe9909
    @waelfathe9909 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the bais is stable ...but what about the ac signal to be amplified later...re usually bypassed by cap ..so the ac does not see re ...which means that amplification depends on the beta which may enlarge the amplification till saturation of cut off??

  • @TheRicardihino
    @TheRicardihino 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you determine the beta value? From my understand is this an assigned value within the circuit or is it derived from certain equations?

    • @animasaurus2007
      @animasaurus2007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      For future reference it's based on the transistor and the temperature of the device.

  • @kameeltv9126
    @kameeltv9126 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would I do if R1 and R2 values ain't given?

  • @harrisppm2575
    @harrisppm2575 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have a similar problem with no mention on β, how can i solve it with-out it?

    • @isuckatthisgame
      @isuckatthisgame 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      did you solve it? i have the same problem. no beta but i have all other values. how to calculate base current without it?

    • @harrisppm2575
      @harrisppm2575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@isuckatthisgame used loop theory and remember that at the grounded end V=0

  • @athulvinayak3328
    @athulvinayak3328 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the use of RE in the circuit?how it provide stability?

  • @michaelcostello6991
    @michaelcostello6991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only complaint is there is not a download link for a pdf document of this lecture. The information is so good there should be a link.

  • @rakeshdutta623
    @rakeshdutta623 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just awesome explanation sir, thank you so much for that video. I have one doubt about beta, how can we take the beta value as constant because in any transistor data sheet the beta value have a range. For example BC548 has a beta range from 110 to 500. So which value should i take while using this transistor for amplification (for a perfect active region). Please explain sir, if possible.

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  ปีที่แล้ว

      You make a good point. What value of beta do you use? When my students are first learning about transistors, we make the assumption that it is constant and this simplifies analysis a lot. Then we measure beta in the lab for a particular transistor and even though everyone has the same part number, the values of beta change and to make it worse the value changes when temperature changes. Real circuits are designed so that the value of beta doesn't matter as much (e.g., voltage divider bias is less sensitive to changes in beta than a fixed bias circuit). So I think the progression of learning is assume that beta is constant at first because then there is less cognitive load, then recognize that beta can change, then look at ways to make circuits less sensitive to changes in beta.
      It's probably not the answer you are looking for, but I hope it helps a bit.

  • @CheckThisOut380
    @CheckThisOut380 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it Really the same ?? With the new circuit u drawn ,I1=Ic same generator wich is nit true ?

  • @hagegeabay4542
    @hagegeabay4542 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is a great example but how do you find Ib if RE is not given?

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not totally sure what you mean about RE not being given, but if there is no RE, then IB = (VTH-0.7)/RB

  • @goranvuletic8873
    @goranvuletic8873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sublime!

  • @hossamfadeel
    @hossamfadeel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Alot

  • @chickennugget3362
    @chickennugget3362 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I've gained a headache.

  • @AkshayKumar-jq9ph
    @AkshayKumar-jq9ph ปีที่แล้ว

    If i use exact method even if bre>>10r2 then is it right

  • @sandeepkamboj7675
    @sandeepkamboj7675 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How you calculate the value of R1,R2,R3,R4?

    • @FireSymphoney
      @FireSymphoney 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      divide the relative voltage with the relative current, use ohms law.

    • @darrenallen1387
      @darrenallen1387 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brilliant Ember could you explain that different, not understanding

    • @FireSymphoney
      @FireSymphoney 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      use this formula: Voltage = Current x Resistance

  • @seankennedy8506
    @seankennedy8506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also is (Vth) the same as (Vb) the voltage looking into the base of the transistor?

    • @age04125
      @age04125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am confused about this too. Did you found out that Vth equal to Vb? Or is it Vth =Vb + Ib*Rth ?

    • @gwenhurel5125
      @gwenhurel5125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vth is equal to VR2, the voltage provide by the voltage divider. And so VR2 = VBE + VRE (equal to => (R2.IR2) = VBE + (RE.IRE)

  • @GomesTugaPT
    @GomesTugaPT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you apply the voltage divider rule there? We should considerate both resistor are subjected to the same current because Ib is very small? Or should we assume that transistor is operating in the cut-off region?

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assuming that you meet the condition that (beta+1)RE > 10*R2, then you can assume that IB is small enough to ignore and apply voltage divider rule to R1 and R2.

    • @GomesTugaPT
      @GomesTugaPT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ElectronXLab thank you!

  • @MrPinkster1
    @MrPinkster1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone help with Deriving the equation at 4:44?

  • @eljefe6852
    @eljefe6852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the value of i1 and i2?

  • @victord3867
    @victord3867 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are those resistors in parallel? Having a little trouble getting my head around that

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the resistors that you are referring to are the ones connected to the base. One goes to Vcc and one goes to ground. They are only in parallel from an AC point of view. If you are doing AC analysis, you ignore the DC source. In other words you replace the DC source with a short and it therefore becomes a short to ground. So from an AC point of view those two resistors are connected to the base on one side and to ground on the other side.

  • @TheRicardihino
    @TheRicardihino 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Or is beta just the Ic / Ib?

  • @DMES-wp2fj
    @DMES-wp2fj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the equation to solve for ro? Anyone

  • @homayoonfhrvnd1470
    @homayoonfhrvnd1470 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great

  • @smartpk9534
    @smartpk9534 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir how to get answer uA please tell me i don't uderstands

  • @michaelzlab
    @michaelzlab 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow!! Thanks..

  • @Festus2022
    @Festus2022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the Thevenin Eq. Voltage the "Base Voltage"?

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not the voltage at the base because it is applied through the Thevenin eq. resistance

    • @Festus2022
      @Festus2022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much!@@ElectronXLab

    • @Festus2022
      @Festus2022 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BUT, at 13:30 (in the shortcut) you give the same formula for the Base-Voltage as you had for the Thevenin Voltage previously. What has changed with respect to the base voltage form the long version calculation? Thanks

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Festus2022. Oh, yeah, good question...It is more accurate to apply the thevenin voltage through the thevenin resistance...this is the analysis in the first half of the video. In certain conditions (i.e., if the base current is small enough (R2

  • @johnjcb4690
    @johnjcb4690 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great BUT why you say voltage divider R1 and R2 and immediately căLculate Rth as parralel ?/

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because I wanted to Thevenize the voltage source and resistance that the base "sees". When calculating the Rth, you short out the voltage source, so in that step both R1 and R2 are connected to GND, and are therefore in parallel.

  • @engenhariaeletricaprojetoi7629
    @engenhariaeletricaprojetoi7629 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    good guy

  • @sonimuthoni9200
    @sonimuthoni9200 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did u get the value of vbe

  • @akshayaugustine9741
    @akshayaugustine9741 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey, how do you reach the assumption that beta*RE>=10R2

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      If beta*RE >= 10R2, then almost all of the current will flow through R2 and very little will flow in to the base. The assumption that you can then make is that essentially no current flows in to the base.

    • @akshayaugustine9741
      @akshayaugustine9741 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Williams but why particularly 10R2, why not some other value like 5R2 or 20R2?

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is somewhat arbitrary, but 10R2 ensures that more than 90% of the current goes through R2.

    • @akshayaugustine9741
      @akshayaugustine9741 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Williams Thanks man. Really great video

  • @nonenone4539
    @nonenone4539 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it always 1/10 ?

  • @jenadolfo9358
    @jenadolfo9358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to solve for IC if the beta is unknown? plss help

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With the Voltage Divider Bias circuit, as long as it is "big enough", the value of beta can be ignored. You can say the IE and IC are equal. IE can be calculated by first determining VE (the voltage at the emitter): VE = VB-0.7. Then IE = VE/RE

  • @fahemzoldyck1729
    @fahemzoldyck1729 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how did you calculate Rth ! 7:20

  • @kailm.5107
    @kailm.5107 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand how you derived the equation for IB using KVL, but the intuition behind the equation itself is not clear to me. So why is it not IB=VB/RB and then IB=VB/Rth? Additionally my textbook frequently uses VB=VE+.7V, so if I combine this with your method, specifically where Vth-VBE, then I am taking the .7V into account twice. This does not make sense to me.

    • @ElectronXLab
      @ElectronXLab  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Kail M. I'm not totally sure I understand your question, but I think your confusion arises from determining the IB from the Thevenin equivalent circuit. The Thevenin equivalent does not physically exist, I am just using it as a trick to help me calculate IB (which is not the current that flows through either one of R1 and R2, it is the current into the base only). I hope that helps...if not, let me know.

  • @simoncheung2427
    @simoncheung2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:44 do you assume Rth is zero? in previously, Vb=Vth- Ib*Rth.

    • @simoncheung2427
      @simoncheung2427 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh, i just realise that in this condition , Ib is nearly zero, the potential drop is near zero, so that Vth = Vb.

  • @deshengzheng4704
    @deshengzheng4704 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 9:34, why Vce is not as "VCE = Vcc-Ic*Rc-Ie*Re", since Ie=201/200Ic?

    • @GSaiRakesh
      @GSaiRakesh 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/WY7WbGph_o4/w-d-xo.html

    • @metea.890
      @metea.890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GSaiRakesh sir why Ie approximately equal to Ic ?