This video is extremely helpful so I just wanted to stop by and say thank you! I’m planning to read the original 6 and simply look up an explanation of the plot line for the extended Dune universe. As much as I want a conclusion for the story, the intelligence of Frank’s writing is the main draw so far through my reading. So sad that Frank left this world just a little too soon!
I can’t see myself reading past the original 6 books. For myself, the pleasure in reading a book comes from communing with a great mind. Frank Herbert is a genius, and I’m interested in the ideas of the man more than simply fiction in a particular universe.
wow I saw the movie first, and I tought I'd get into the books, but I never imagined that this universe is so vast, but I'm so happy that I have something to read for some time, it really fills the void that the game of thrones books left in my heart. Thank you for this guide, it was super helpful, and high quality. P.S: You probably created a dune enthusiast
Great content and personal insight to the saga. I appreciate how you did it without spoiling any major plot points. And loved your idea of “jumping off points” throughout! Thanks for the in depth look at the overall series. With your knowledge, you should do a Breakdown of the “Original” (read true) Saga of 6 books. I would love to hear your thoughts and breakdown of the story and character arcs! Bravo my friend! 👏🏼👏🏼 Glad this was recommended by the algorithm! 🤣👍🏼
Thanks for this video and your advice. I never wanted to read the expanded Dune saga because I felt it was not only exhausted work but a less quality work. But now you get my sleeper awake. 👍👍👍
If you compare the expanded Dune saga to the original it isn't nearly as good. If you let it stand on its own, and just look at it like some escapism. They're books are not too bad. If you do read them let me know if you like them or not. I'd be curious to know. Glad you enjoyed the video.
It's been asked by others, why didn't Brian take the same route that Christopher Tolkien did, in sorting through and publishing all his father's notes on Middle Earth? My only conclusion would be that there wasn't much for Brian to do in this regard. The only way for him to benefit financially was by writing new books. I realise this paints Brian in a rather miserly way, which is unkind of me. I hope to be proven wrong. I'd like to think he wanted to show the fans more of his father's world building in the manner I think of Christopher Tolkien; but time might tell.
really great guide. I for one read DUNE for like 2 times at that time and then went straight to God Emperor since i watched Children of DUNE miniseries.. (could not find Messiah and CoD at local bookstore, i prefer to read physical)
They have a new box set out for the six original books. Hopefully you can get to read them all sometime. I had a hard time trying to track down Chapter House Dune back in the day.
I thought the series was best when I had just read the first 2 books although missing god emperor is bad but the little sphere that is the first two books, when they exist in a vacuum, was my favorite.
God Emporer is my favorite book, Miles Teg is my favorite character, Dune was my favorite to read, and Messiah-Children has my favorite story, and Heretics has my favorite ending, still reading Chapterhouse
As far as I know I've read them all. I read the first three as they were released and they are my favorites. I am so invested in the books I really can't watch movies.
I'm sorry, but if the intended conclusion of FH's saga can't be understood unless you first read the prequel fanfictions written by his son, then that is utterly abhorent. Shame on BH & KJA
Oh they have no shame. They are still putting out new Dune books that are even more pointless. That’s why I have chapter house as a jumping off point. We will never know for certain what the intended conclusion was for the Dune series.
Here’s the thing though, Frank never was afforded the conclusion to this story, this is just his son and a partner working on putting out a continuation to give the reader something tangible to experience. Sure, it might be for monetary reasons they continued after that or maybe they just liked adding more to this universe, it’s not exactly shameful to just *make more books* yk? TLDR; if it wasn’t finished, let them take a stab at it yk? Even if it doesn’t live up to what could’ve been…
great video, do you think it would be best to read the prequel books first then go on with the other books. Would a person be lost if they don't read the first 6 books of the series then go to the prequel?
Well I think you could do it one of two ways. Read the books in chronological order as they fit in the fictional timeline, or you can read them in publication order. I think ether one of those two ways can work.
Don't read past Children of Dune lol. You will thank yourself. Thats an exaggeration i guess. Only read past Children of Dune if you REALLY like scifi in general, AND enjoy the philosophical aspect of Herbert's work. If you are like me however, and primarily love dune for the geopolitical, world building lore aspects of the universe, stop after children of Dune. The rest of the serious sacrifices everything that was good in those aspects, for tripy, weird, and lore nonsensical surrealism.
Too late for me I've read past the first 6 years ago. The only one of the first six I didn't really care for at the time was God Emperor. However I plan to reread them all again at some point to see if my outlook on God Emperor has changed.
@@filmandpage1138 I'm glad you can enjoy them at least, they are definitely well written works (as is to be expected from Frank Herbert). Question though for my own curiosity. Has the philosophical aspects of Dune always been your favorite part?
I can not quite explain why, but for me God Emperor worked as a good jumping off point. I knew that I would end on some kind of cliffhanger anyway, so I think it was the huge gap in time between books four and five that made my brain accept it as an ending xD
Brian is not a patch on Frank's writing. The part where he alludes to using the Golden-Mean had me laughing incredulously. Nothing more than waste paper money-spinners are these extras. Stick to the original 6 Frank Herbert novels and the Dune Encyclopedia that Brian doesn't like but Frank did like would be my advice. Interestingly, I see the 6 canon books as being comprised of four parts. Chapterhouse Dune is my favourite.
It's a tragic that Frank Herbert passed away so early. I would have loved to have his version of the final end to the Dune saga. I've heard that Brian Herbert will never let the Dune Encyclopedia be reprinted. I don't know if that is true or not. I actually found a copy of the Dune Encyclopedia at Value Village a few years back.
'should i read? should i read past first page? should I think for self? help AM brain hurt.... thoughts hard. want fuck. want rutt... what do? think hard :(' why is there a 15 fucking min long video about how to read a book? for fucks sake... i have no mouth and I must scream
This video is extremely helpful so I just wanted to stop by and say thank you! I’m planning to read the original 6 and simply look up an explanation of the plot line for the extended Dune universe. As much as I want a conclusion for the story, the intelligence of Frank’s writing is the main draw so far through my reading. So sad that Frank left this world just a little too soon!
Thank you for the view. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
I love the expanded books. There is no way I could leave off at the Chapterhouse end. I was way more satisfied with the end of Sandworms of Dune.
I’m glad you’re enjoying the books.
I’m thinking of reading the original three with the supplemental Paul of Dune and Winds of Dune. Have you read them yet?
I can’t see myself reading past the original 6 books. For myself, the pleasure in reading a book comes from communing with a great mind. Frank Herbert is a genius, and I’m interested in the ideas of the man more than simply fiction in a particular universe.
For a lot of people that's as far as they can go. I totally understand someone not wanting to move on with Brian, and Kevin's stuff.
I am thinking of reading the rest of dune books to build on the lore. Already bought most of the most essential books.
Great video. I just finished Chapterhouse, and this was very informative on where to go next. Thank you very much for making this video!
wow
I saw the movie first, and I tought I'd get into the books, but I never imagined that this universe is so vast, but I'm so happy that I have something to read for some time, it really fills the void that the game of thrones books left in my heart.
Thank you for this guide, it was super helpful, and high quality.
P.S: You probably created a dune enthusiast
I just finished reading the first one and this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
I'm glad you liked the video, and thank you for the view.
Great content and personal insight to the saga. I appreciate how you did it without spoiling any major plot points. And loved your idea of “jumping off points” throughout! Thanks for the in depth look at the overall series.
With your knowledge, you should do a Breakdown of the “Original” (read true) Saga of 6 books. I would love to hear your thoughts and breakdown of the story and character arcs!
Bravo my friend! 👏🏼👏🏼
Glad this was recommended by the algorithm! 🤣👍🏼
Thank you for the comment, and the view. I really appreciate it, and I'm glad you liked the video.
You got a new Subscriber! Keep up the good work. Look forward to more of your DUNE Lore/Sci-fi genre analysis! 👍🏼
Thanks for this video and your advice. I never wanted to read the expanded Dune saga because I felt it was not only exhausted work but a less quality work. But now you get my sleeper awake. 👍👍👍
If you compare the expanded Dune saga to the original it isn't nearly as good. If you let it stand on its own, and just look at it like some escapism. They're books are not too bad. If you do read them let me know if you like them or not. I'd be curious to know.
Glad you enjoyed the video.
It's been asked by others, why didn't Brian take the same route that Christopher Tolkien did, in sorting through and publishing all his father's notes on Middle Earth? My only conclusion would be that there wasn't much for Brian to do in this regard. The only way for him to benefit financially was by writing new books. I realise this paints Brian in a rather miserly way, which is unkind of me. I hope to be proven wrong. I'd like to think he wanted to show the fans more of his father's world building in the manner I think of Christopher Tolkien; but time might tell.
Thanks so much for the info I have always said I wanted to read the Dune series 😮 you explained the book’s really well!
Thank you for the view. I'm glad you found the video helpful.
really great guide.
I for one read DUNE for like 2 times at that time and then went straight to God Emperor
since i watched Children of DUNE miniseries.. (could not find Messiah and CoD at local bookstore, i prefer to read physical)
They have a new box set out for the six original books. Hopefully you can get to read them all sometime. I had a hard time trying to track down Chapter House Dune back in the day.
I thought the series was best when I had just read the first 2 books although missing god emperor is bad but the little sphere that is the first two books, when they exist in a vacuum, was my favorite.
That’s interesting.
I dont mind reading the books , im reading them all . I'm almost done and I'm going to read dune again with a whole new perspective
God Emporer is my favorite book, Miles Teg is my favorite character, Dune was my favorite to read, and Messiah-Children has my favorite story, and Heretics has my favorite ending, still reading Chapterhouse
I really have to re-read God Emperor. A lot of people say it is their favourite.
As far as I know I've read them all. I read the first three as they were released and they are my favorites. I am so invested in the books I really can't watch movies.
So so helpful, what a brilliant video thank you.
@@EvanPhipps-fy9ql glad you liked it.
Thank you for making this!
All the books are pretty good if you are a fan of the setting and characters
A discussion of The Dune Encyclopedia would have been helpful.
In hind sight yes I should have said a few words about it. I'll have to do a video on the Dune encyclopedia someday.
@@filmandpage1138 Please do!
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I'm sorry, but if the intended conclusion of FH's saga can't be understood unless you first read the prequel fanfictions written by his son, then that is utterly abhorent. Shame on BH & KJA
Oh they have no shame. They are still putting out new Dune books that are even more pointless.
That’s why I have chapter house as a jumping off point. We will never know for certain what the intended conclusion was for the Dune series.
Here’s the thing though, Frank never was afforded the conclusion to this story, this is just his son and a partner working on putting out a continuation to give the reader something tangible to experience. Sure, it might be for monetary reasons they continued after that or maybe they just liked adding more to this universe, it’s not exactly shameful to just *make more books* yk?
TLDR; if it wasn’t finished, let them take a stab at it yk? Even if it doesn’t live up to what could’ve been…
Dune saga comprises 6 books written by frank herbert and ends with chapterhouse.
That's why I've always considered the new stuff alternate canon.
great video, do you think it would be best to read the prequel books first then go on with the other books. Would a person be lost if they don't read the first 6 books of the series then go to the prequel?
Well I think you could do it one of two ways. Read the books in chronological order as they fit in the fictional timeline, or you can read them in publication order. I think ether one of those two ways can work.
Awesome video!
Glad you enjoyed it.
God Emperor is the best book. At least get that far.
Read Dune…then walk away. I made the mistake of reading 2 and 3. When 4 came out I said “Hell, NO!”
What is the music at 6:30 , i keep hearing that on other videos
It is called Dreaming in 432hz by the unicorn heads. It's royalty free music from youtubes free music library.
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Don't read past Children of Dune lol. You will thank yourself.
Thats an exaggeration i guess. Only read past Children of Dune if you REALLY like scifi in general, AND enjoy the philosophical aspect of Herbert's work.
If you are like me however, and primarily love dune for the geopolitical, world building lore aspects of the universe, stop after children of Dune. The rest of the serious sacrifices everything that was good in those aspects, for tripy, weird, and lore nonsensical surrealism.
Too late for me I've read past the first 6 years ago. The only one of the first six I didn't really care for at the time was God Emperor. However I plan to reread them all again at some point to see if my outlook on God Emperor has changed.
@@filmandpage1138 I'm glad you can enjoy them at least, they are definitely well written works (as is to be expected from Frank Herbert).
Question though for my own curiosity. Has the philosophical aspects of Dune always been your favorite part?
Get me another Duncan!
I can not quite explain why, but for me God Emperor worked as a good jumping off point. I knew that I would end on some kind of cliffhanger anyway, so I think it was the huge gap in time between books four and five that made my brain accept it as an ending xD
Brian is not a patch on Frank's writing. The part where he alludes to using the Golden-Mean had me laughing incredulously. Nothing more than waste paper money-spinners are these extras.
Stick to the original 6 Frank Herbert novels and the Dune Encyclopedia that Brian doesn't like but Frank did like would be my advice.
Interestingly, I see the 6 canon books as being comprised of four parts. Chapterhouse Dune is my favourite.
It's a tragic that Frank Herbert passed away so early. I would have loved to have his version of the final end to the Dune saga.
I've heard that Brian Herbert will never let the Dune Encyclopedia be reprinted. I don't know if that is true or not. I actually found a copy of the Dune Encyclopedia at Value Village a few years back.
so i decided to quit being a fraud and im in god emperor atm
Hopefully you like it. I found it somewhat boring, but Heretics of Dune, and Chapter House Dune are worth it.
@@filmandpage1138 im in heretics now ,ty for the reply ❤
'should i read? should i read past first page? should I think for self? help AM brain hurt.... thoughts hard. want fuck. want rutt... what do? think hard :('
why is there a 15 fucking min long video about how to read a book? for fucks sake... i have no mouth and I must scream