Negative Guitar Trends From Manufacturers - 2022

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  • We are seeing some a negative trends from guitar manufactures starting to creep in to the guitar market. Some are already here and some are knocking at the door. Baxter and Jonathan give you their 5 things that make you go hmm.

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  • @Journey-of-1000-Miles
    @Journey-of-1000-Miles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    A trend I dislike, is the trend for manufactures to give a bag instead of a case.

    • @CurrieNerd
      @CurrieNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm ok with this, if the price is adjusted accordingly. I only ever use my PRS gig bag.. and have a shelf full of unused cases. I'd rather $200 off the price than a flash case.

    • @guitrr
      @guitrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only thing I use a hard case for anymore is shipping an instrument I’ve sold; haven’t taken a guitar in a case to a gig, rehearsal, or jam session in over twenty years.

    • @danieltilleru3528
      @danieltilleru3528 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I remember not to long ago you could buy a Epiphone for 400 and it came with a hard case

    • @DjREVERENDSCAR
      @DjREVERENDSCAR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hell I just bought a Fender acoustic bass from my local shop not only did it not come with a bag the shop didn’t even have one in stock to sell.

    • @TheRealMarxz
      @TheRealMarxz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if even that - I've bought 6 Fender/Squier and 2 Gretschs in the last few years and only one came with a gig bag (a MiJ precision bass)
      I mean I only gig/jam with one or two basses or guitars so having 2 cases for each is enough but around the house gig bags are needed to keep them scratch and ding free while handling and storing them.

  • @ElJafaz
    @ElJafaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    FAF is my number one pet peeve! When my whole TH-cam list is everyone and their dog reviewing a newly released product on the same day, it automatically makes me not even want to consider buying it.

    • @CurrieNerd
      @CurrieNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It always seems to be a big push for something that I don't want, to start with :)

  • @JackRoadkill
    @JackRoadkill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I'm willing to bet that Fender's employees won't see a 15% pay rise in order to cope with the huge rise in the cost of living.

    • @midorisumi
      @midorisumi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      As a former luthier for Fender, I’d put money on you being right.

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      These guys missed that 60 percent of "inflation" has gone to PROFIT.

    • @jeffreyhutchins6527
      @jeffreyhutchins6527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@cimmeriakurt No it hasn't. Just stop. The price of materials has increased. I've built guitars from scratch, you should see the price increase on good tone woods. Honduran Mahogany has gone through the roof. Koa and Rosewood might as well be Diamonds and if you want Ebony fretboard you can forget it. Don't even get me started on the hardware. When you accuse a company of gauging prices , you need to know what you are talking about.

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@jeffreyhutchins6527 I'm speaking broadly as corporations have had record profits.

    • @cimmeriakurt
      @cimmeriakurt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jeffreyhutchins6527 capitalism failing you the bootlickers. Very sad

  • @rickydulieu563
    @rickydulieu563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    That feeling when you get home from work, and one of your favourite youtube channels has a new video that isn't just trying to get me to buy a certain new guitar that I can't have for another month. :D Keep doing what you do guys, love it!!

    • @CasinoGuitars
      @CasinoGuitars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks A bunch Ricky and we’ll keep on being he same silly cats we are:) appreciate your support!

  • @rileydavis739
    @rileydavis739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    01:35 Prices Increases
    04:43 Material Quality
    06:34 Online Forum Policing
    10:10 Online Marketing Campaigns
    15:43 Product Life Cycles

  • @GrayEdenfield
    @GrayEdenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’ve been collecting guitars since 2003, and the latest price bumps has finally cured me my addiction. So thank you Fender and Gibson. I have around 20 guitars and I never see myself buying new again.

    • @metalliholic
      @metalliholic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, I have about 12-13 that I bought the last couple years.
      Now it’s hard to buy seeing the insane price hikes

    • @markferguson3745
      @markferguson3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started building my own a decade ago, and no longer even own anything from a factory.The last one I sold was a Vintera Jazzmaster, after realizing the one that I built for half the price,- was twice as good.

    • @timwalls7944
      @timwalls7944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. Also it is hard to buy used gear (at least on reverb) at decent prices as those have skyrocketed as well

  • @Dram1984
    @Dram1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I had forgotten the Silver Sky SE was coming out today. Can’t wait to watch 12 million TH-camrs telling my how great it is.

    • @Jerrys_missing_finger
      @Jerrys_missing_finger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My feed looks like a SE webpage.

    • @TennisOnion
      @TennisOnion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I saw one gal practically crying over how awesome it was....

    • @rottingcorpse6565
      @rottingcorpse6565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Almost as much fun as when the new acoustasonic came out with 4 million videos

    • @jassieblue
      @jassieblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The prs silver sky se is made of the cheap wood they talked about. Poplar.

    • @markferguson3745
      @markferguson3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't take the opinion seriously of anyone who made content for the acoustic Jazzmaster.Unsubbed to several of them.

  • @TurfShifter
    @TurfShifter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I guess the PRS videos are about to all hit the street anytime now. At least Phil McKnight was upfront on his live show and made it clear the Silver Sky was his to keep. He is about the only reviewer I totally trust to be upfront and honest.

    • @PaulieHo
      @PaulieHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah he's definitely one of the best reviewers, totally transparent and honest.

    • @joeking433
      @joeking433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hard to make a living being an honest and upfront TH-camr.

  • @michaeljoyce3286
    @michaeljoyce3286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is one of my favorite TH-cam channels keep it real guys just guitar talk and it’s good for the public to know .

  • @bryantwalley
    @bryantwalley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    My biggest problem with all music equipment now is preorders. Glad you talked about it. Preorders and artificial limited quantities just create artificial inflation.

    • @nocturnal101ravenous6
      @nocturnal101ravenous6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That is because the "Collector" and "Invester" part of the community would start crying if regular people got something cool

    • @seniorjuanvaldez
      @seniorjuanvaldez 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are discounting the supply chain issues

    • @bryantwalley
      @bryantwalley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seniorjuanvaldez I did not. The manufacturer supply chain is considered here as well as all the other aspects of the process.

    • @bryantwalley
      @bryantwalley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nocturnal101ravenous6 yes indeed. And the flippers.

    • @nocturnal101ravenous6
      @nocturnal101ravenous6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@seniorjuanvaldez The supply chain issues are artificial at best. Talk to NY and California governors the only reason why we are having issues is because politically they are causing issues like the trucker driving rules in Cali and the dock workers in NY. There are more than enough American Manufacturers they could use as alternatives if they are going to hike the price it shouldn't be for foreign chinese junk we have to swap out.

  • @gkott78
    @gkott78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I sincerely love your honesty guys. You have quickly become my one of my favorite channels.

  • @musicguy9299
    @musicguy9299 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You. You guys are very good at showing a different side of these type of Guitar and amp Pods. Best to You!

  • @Rogijimbex
    @Rogijimbex ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really like to spend time watching you guys. Always fun and comforting. Honesty is becoming an outlier in the new "orange crush" world. Glad you try to bring integrity to our guitar world. Thanks

  • @EchoApexFirstEcho
    @EchoApexFirstEcho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Don’t follow TH-cam trends y’all, keep it your own. That’s what makes the Casino channel so awesome.

    • @CasinoGuitars
      @CasinoGuitars  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn’t know if this was a trend, we were just talking with our friend gabriel and the idea spawned

    • @EchoApexFirstEcho
      @EchoApexFirstEcho 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s an elusive thing for sure. Maybe the core is Not staying on topic but to continue to talk naturally. Maybe it was the countdown that prompted my remarks.

  • @biggblak69
    @biggblak69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A) Love the channel! B) The pricing is one of the reasons I'm sticking with the 5 guitars I have. C) Off the subject... I'd like to see John demo guitars more. Baxter is great! I'd like to get gander @ his guitar style.

  • @jeanjoun2774
    @jeanjoun2774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video guys - agree with basically all the things you said here. I definitely learn so much from your content, y'all should know that we are super appreciative of your honesty in your videos! Even when you're getting yelled at for it haha

  • @schlep4730
    @schlep4730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done, straighfoward and from the heart, thanks.

  • @stratmagic6893
    @stratmagic6893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent on point video. This channel is one of the best out there.

  • @sysop007
    @sysop007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m not even a guitar player guitar player I play bass but probably the #1 reason I watch the show besides info on new gear or the insider stuff that’s interesting as a musician in general is that you guys are honest. Which is very rare nowadays so keep it up.. So love the show. 👏🏼

  • @joeking433
    @joeking433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What's bad is that they're all made overseas with cheap labor so the cost savings is definitely not going to the consumer, which has been the case since they've went overseas!

    • @markferguson3745
      @markferguson3745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Not going to the workers building them, overseas, either, - which is the real tragedy.

  • @thejovialpanda
    @thejovialpanda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for this great video, and all the other videos you do. I'm in total agreement with the problem of increased costs. The way the Fenders have been going up, I don't see me ever buying a new one again. I'm a bedroom player and I've bought easily a dozen Fenders over the past decade, but the prices have gone up way too far. The Players are too much money for the a guitar that I'm going to have to upgrade the pickups on, since I've always been underwhelmed with the stock pickups on them. And for the American Fenders, they're hitting Gibson prices, and I'd rather have a Gibson at that price. I just feel that Fender's prices have gone up well beyond the price of legitimate inflation and have entered the "we're raising prices because we can" zone.

  • @stephenstgo
    @stephenstgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I am really appreciative for you guys always just being honest in reviews.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tonewood is a mere belief, and sufficiently debunked! So, are they really honest but ignorant on the physics, or do they know better and are perpetuating the myth for personal gain of some kind? I have to be skeptical on that one, since there was a huge "Tonewood war" here on youtube a few years back that was very hard to miss. I have been building and repairing guitars for more than 4 decades now, and understood the related sciences way back in the beginning.
      "Tonewood' may have been thought to be a thing before Newton and a few others put reality to the related sciences, and even forgivable into the early 1800's, but after that was mainly perpetuated as a marketing ploy instrument builders held onto for dear life in order to swoon players and potential customers. Mahogany was so abundant and cheep (grows on 4 continents, yet marketed as exotic and superior for everything and it's prices jacked up in order to profit from it hard by spreading bullshit. It got it's start in instrument building that way. As for it's physical properties, there are a lot of woods near equal and even better, some so close from entirely different genus and species they have been sold under the name Mahogany too, and still are! The marketing works so good, it has a strong placebo effect, and people fall for it in droves. People also believe what they want to over what they aught to, as in truth and reality, and when they want to hard enough, belief has more weight than the truth.

    • @stephenstgo
      @stephenstgo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bob-of-Zoid yeah I was talking about honest reviews of guitars as a whole, not tone woods. I don’t play tone woods. I play guitars.

    • @Bob-of-Zoid
      @Bob-of-Zoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenstgo When one is honest, it's cool, but just remember that one can be honestly mistaken!
      This will never change: If you play as many guitars you can, in as many stores as you can, sooner or later, something will speak to you, and it really doesn't matter as much why, only that it does. No one can tell you what is right for you (but they will), only you can tell.
      Buying a "Good guitar" can take years! Mail order is a terrible idea. Even within 50 of the same brand and model, only one may stand out. You are better off having a sufficient stash set aside for just the right one. You can always have something to fill the gap until then, and sell it once the right one comes along, but never compromise.

    • @YaYousef5
      @YaYousef5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do, too, but, in the video, they say that they've taken down videos when manufacturers ask them to. 8:55
      Their allegiance is to the manufacturers (for business purposes), not us, the customers/audience. So can you trust them? I won't.

  • @FrankLafone
    @FrankLafone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm getting a little burned out by all the "Signature" guitars. I mean, I get when your favorite artist has a signature model it can be cool and all, but there's so many of them out there now. It just feels like "Buy our standard guitar with a couple of tweaks one famous person really digs... for only 20% more!"

  • @richardfranklin9139
    @richardfranklin9139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I’m a 53 year old, reasonably successful guy. And somehow I bookend my day by watching two dudes talk about guitars when I wake up and again after work. This doesn’t feel right.
    You guys rock

  • @peterbaker3878
    @peterbaker3878 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You two crack me up! Huge fan of your content 👊 Can't wait to come see the shop in near future and buy a guitar.

  • @LitoLevenbach
    @LitoLevenbach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Regarding quality control: even before the pandemic hit I was surprised at how the QC of some big brands seemed to be slipping, whether they be made in USA, Mexico or Asia. However some more recent examples I've tested have been particularly dire in terms of shoddy assembly or just cheaper feeling components compared to their predecessors from a few years ago. Lots of good stuff still out there, but the tone certainly has changed from a while back when people acknowledged that we were living in the golden age of affordable gear haha. Appreciate the openness from a dealer's perspective.

  • @ericwarrington6650
    @ericwarrington6650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet guys! Good topic...have discovered a few trends w manufacturing myself this year

  • @MrPDTaylor
    @MrPDTaylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously excellent production value for a TH-cam channel with only 38,000 subs

  • @21stcenturydad
    @21stcenturydad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There was a channel I used to love because it was a good mix of gear reviews, some guitar lessons, and generally useful info for guitarists. Now it's a pay for promo channel where it's all gear reviews where all the gear is "great" and has 1 or 2 nitpicky knocks against it.

  • @HeavyInHawaii
    @HeavyInHawaii 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite videos so far. Just brutal honesty. We all know it and feel it. When Ola did the "Will it chug" with the jazzy looking acoustic, I did the same thing...."Awww c'mon!"

  • @zhangke1350
    @zhangke1350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I decided to subscribe and watch your video going forward. I have been feeling weird about all these youtube advertising and you just spoke my mind.

  • @klinks67
    @klinks67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why wouldn’t they increase the price and lower quality, guitars are still flying of the shelves. Demand has increased not just because of the new players but mainly, I think, because of the number of guitars we feel the need to own.

  • @BCarpenter2314
    @BCarpenter2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a retailer in the golf industry it sounds like our shops are fairly similar. The exception being when our manufacturers roll out new product usually the one before it becomes discontinued. There may be a few items that carry over but nothing runs on more than a 2 or 3 year life cycle.

  • @richardgarcia406
    @richardgarcia406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just love how the used market is keeping in line with supply chain influenced inflation.

    • @will2181
      @will2181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is that sarcasm I’m sensing?

  • @JtotheP68
    @JtotheP68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who works in the bicycle retail industry it’s exactly the same here, the constant reinvention/new product for no real reason. I get it, it drives sales, but at the same time it’s rampant consumerism, we cannot keep consuming like this.
    The sheer amount of choice of product is bad for small independent retailers too. Back in the 70/80’s if a shop wanted to stock the entire fender range (as an example, not singly them out) they probably had to stock maybe 10 guitars. Now it’s probably closer to 200 guitars maybe! Only the big shops can afford to do this, most of them mail order outlets.

  • @randallmiller8314
    @randallmiller8314 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for my newest acronym that I plan to use frequently! I just wish I was young enough to use Baxter’s parenting advice, too. Great video guys!

  • @LIGHTintheHALLS
    @LIGHTintheHALLS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Topic aside, I enjoy listening to you guys and spending some time here. Love your videos
    ✨🔊👍

  • @WeDoAdventure
    @WeDoAdventure 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    In the early 2000s I bought a Fender Deluxe Telecaster. It felt like a big deal back then. It's meant less and less with every subsequent name change. Regardless of what that has done to resale value, Fender have managed to devalue how I perceive their product, which back then I was prepared to pay a premium for. Sad but true!

    • @danoverfield8923
      @danoverfield8923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I see this point. I have an 03 studio LP that I still enjoy. Only in the last two years have I realized that it’s not seen as “a real Les Paul”. But yet it’s still excellent despite it not being a traditional customized classical standardized accessible mid century modern deluxe tributary model. It may or may not be weight relieved too.

    • @GDawg2K2
      @GDawg2K2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same issue.. I finally switched to boutiques.

    • @CurrieNerd
      @CurrieNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danoverfield8923 I have a Studio too. I played about a dozen spendier LPs before buying this one. It's definitely weight relieved.. but still weighs a tonne!!

    • @pmscalisi
      @pmscalisi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danoverfield8923 guitar players are in general the biggest snobs on the earth.

  • @msspi764
    @msspi764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All spot on. I bought a couple new guitars a few years ago. No more. I see the same quality issues you see. I understand costs are up and supply chain and all that, but the manufacturers are pricing themselves away from me. But that isn't the biggest worry. New players want inexpensive guitars. If the quality is not there at the price point or the sub-$300 price point evaporates there will be fewer new players. The manufacturers' future customer base evaporates with it. BTW everyone should have a GS Mini. But $600 ++ for a largely laminated guitar is a problem. $1100 is just stupid.

  • @PaulieHo
    @PaulieHo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Interesting y'all mentioned the lesser quality woods on guitars the same day a pretty expensive guitar made of poplar just dropped!
    Loved the chat as always guys, rock on.

    • @metalliholic
      @metalliholic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was just thinking that too.

  • @bobilly
    @bobilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Re: product "life cycles," Gibson lost me on that long before Fender did. Remember the Les Paul Studio, Classic, Standard, Premium Plus range? After they changed the names I never bothered to learn the new terminology. Same thing happened later to Fender. I could follow the American Vintage line being changed to "American Original," but with all the changes in recent years they've completely lost me. When you have 4-5 or more tiers in your product line, changing the names of all of them to some new arbitrary term becomes tiresome to re-learn.

    • @DRChevalier
      @DRChevalier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said and there is no customer benefit of all this renaming. It's done solely to make foolish owners think that their current instrument is not good enough. Psychological warfare, no facts involved

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DRChevalier we live in a post fact society. Capitalism can’t be based on facts.

    • @DRChevalier
      @DRChevalier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ottophil Hello sir. True capitalism can only exist on facts. Sadly as you have clearly elocuted the noun is often misunderstood or inaccurately applied. These makers may be perceived as capitalists but they are seeking profit with no return on value, which is not capitalism. Be well sir.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DRChevalier what I meant is in order to keep buying shit we all have to believe the lie that we need more shit. That in order ti survive ourselves we must not help others in need. The greed of capitalism will lead to its fall. That greed was causes by the 1% lying to the working class

    • @pmscalisi
      @pmscalisi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ottophil I think consumerism is a better term. That “gotta have the latest and best” and more expensive is better mindset is ridiculous.
      The best thing to do is realize you don’t have to buy anything if you’re happy with what you have, in general, Americans are the least happiest people on the earth especially now.

  • @aray887
    @aray887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Id love to see a video expanding on the inferior woods and what to watch out for

  • @anthonyvalentino9483
    @anthonyvalentino9483 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the 2021 high end Epiphones Customs Moderns and prophecy Models.they are high end and craftsmanship is remarkable yes they are going up in price again but these are worth the price hikes

  • @marksc1929
    @marksc1929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like like how these guys keep it real ....no agenda etc ...just keeping you informed within the world of guitar's .

  • @DRChevalier
    @DRChevalier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey guys. I watch all your videos. This one just rang every bell for me. Personally I am exhausted being used as a pincushion for every organization that wants another piece of me. These manufacturers, whether they make good stuff or not, have become scumbags when it comes to business practices and while you are very kind to the big mover stores, real musicians tend to prefer to deal with a local shop where possible for better service and the opportunity to create a longer term relationship. If this were not true, everyone would buy off Amazon. Here are my corollary rules to your own. 1. Announce a product but do not actually ship it until two weeks before you announce the replacement. 2. Always use weasel words like authentic, iconic and Made in the USA in your advertising and marketing because they don't actually mean anything other than a higher price tag. 3. Be sure to force your dealers to raise the prices on inventory that they already have in stock when you do a price increase and threaten them if they do not do so. Every guitar in every local store went up in price this month, even though they may have been hanging for months. 4. Be sure to force your dealers to buy a number of your newest piece of innovative junk before you send them anything that customers actually want. Like Acoustasonics. No real player actually wants to spend that kind of money on a guitar that is a lousy acoustic AND a lousy electric. 5. Make sure that your dealers buy a lot of your overpriced made in Asia hats, shirts and other sweatshop products because you aren't shipping them any guitars. After all putting your logo on a tuner worth $1 sure makes it worth $20. Always remember to treat the end customer like he or she is a complete idiot and believes all your BS, all the better to butt bang them every chance you get.
    Bitter? Nope. Just honest.

  • @curtdupriez3775
    @curtdupriez3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love you guys. Awesome video. Bravo

  • @WayneMemphisMojo
    @WayneMemphisMojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have spoken true for us all ... sharing this frustration is helpful and healing

  • @TonyMartinez-WYO
    @TonyMartinez-WYO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video to date!!!! Price increases push out the average consumer trying to get into playing guitar… :-/

  • @hailmaryrecordings8255
    @hailmaryrecordings8255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Headless guitars are a scourge. 😂

    • @hailmaryrecordings8255
      @hailmaryrecordings8255 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @nydefect agreed

    • @TVsGringoStarr
      @TVsGringoStarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about headless guitar players?

    • @hailmaryrecordings8255
      @hailmaryrecordings8255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TVsGringoStarr I’ve known a few. 😂

    • @smelltheglove2038
      @smelltheglove2038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Holy moly!!! I’m totally on board with getting rid of this obscene trend that has gone in way too long. I thought it was over in the 80s but I guess some people refuse to admit it is gross.

  • @danjolly9505
    @danjolly9505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is a new world to me. It sounds like a bunch of traditional business men got their hooks in the top jobs and now are following the same models in other industries

  • @timothypotter2137
    @timothypotter2137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are so right, the marketing saturation /frenzy of new products, good or not so..., is just frustrating. At least you can see it.

  • @gustavoledezma9373
    @gustavoledezma9373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate your candor.

  • @BrianBrazilHarmonica
    @BrianBrazilHarmonica 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For me the biggest improvements in guitars in 40 years are stainless steel frets, roasted maple necks and fretboards. Fretboards with rolled edges. Lastly single coils size humbucker pickups with dual blades on Telecasters. If I ever get enough money to get one with all of that maybe I'll get one. Never having to worry about getting my guitar a fret job would be nice. Fender isn't the only company doing it.

    • @supernothing77
      @supernothing77 ปีที่แล้ว

      SS frets are only a thing from less then 10 years ago... Well beyond Uber expensive custom models

  • @GaryKatz
    @GaryKatz ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa! 😆 Nice streak of articulate eloquence! Outta nowhere. Smooth verbal riffs. Whoosh.

  • @jed1166
    @jed1166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Due to the rapid price increases, I ordered a RainSong carbon fiber Jumbo for $3,000, because it will never need to be replaced… greatest hedge against guitar inflation…I was looking at a wooden acoustic made in North America, that increased 15% from 2020 to today…

  • @RoadKing-ky2bs
    @RoadKing-ky2bs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your #1 point is my biggest grip about instruments and gear. We understand in a free market things can go up or down depending on supply, demand, devalue of the dollar, hyperinflation, etc. But this clock work of every 6 months scheduled increases over the past 2 years in just insane and smells like greed in many ways.

  • @robbwylde2002
    @robbwylde2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y’all nailed it! Great video!!!

  • @andrewroberson4042
    @andrewroberson4042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I started looking at upgrading to a deluxe reverb it cost $1200-1300. By the time I bought one the price was $1400-1500. Now they’re $1600 all within one year. Hard to keep up with the constantly increasing prices and the idea of saving for a new guitar is hard when the price changes every few months

  • @justiceforall6412
    @justiceforall6412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good show guys!

  • @hodinygitary1738
    @hodinygitary1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this channel is best source of information guitar related

  • @danoverfield8923
    @danoverfield8923 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I've learned a lot in the last 2 years. First, there aren't shortcuts to getting good gear and second I am going to keep what I have and be happy. The price increases do hurt since there were plenty of things I'd wanted and things that I've been working towards. I can't justify spending at this new level since I am not a lekking peacock. No one cares if I have this or that.

    • @eljefeguapobarbon
      @eljefeguapobarbon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Getting something good and being happy with it, making it yours over time and giving it time is key. I have chased guitars/amps/pedals, etc. Now that I am moving I am realizing that a room full of gear is work to sell! (Can't take them all with me.) Price increases thankfully slowed me into choosing my top few and letting the rest go! Cheers!

    • @paulthorn6437
      @paulthorn6437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Amen! Fortunately guitars aren't like cell phones where you find one you like and then it's obsolete in a couple years, and then the battery dies. If you find one you like, it'll always be there for you. I bought a Player tele a few years ago as my first "good" guitar and I have no interest in letting if go or upgrading to a newer model. FOMO fades if you give it time.

    • @MrDream-zm1pw
      @MrDream-zm1pw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there are shortcuts my friend. You just haven’t used them or know about them. It’s how I managed to get great gear these past 4 years

    • @thesmellycatjazz
      @thesmellycatjazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDream-zm1pw I agree. The deals are there. You just need to work a little harder to find them

  • @jmc1186
    @jmc1186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are great. They shouldn't police you at all. I'm more likely to try a guitar you guys praise.
    You're dead on with these. I want to hear the other 20! Lol

  • @crisp77s
    @crisp77s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Biggest issue you didn’t touch on is the increase in scalping. Short supply guitars and pedals appearing on sales sites at inflated prices. The release hype without supply you talked about feeds that and is frustrating for real players and brand fans. So frustrating when it’s happening on your favourite player’s signature guitar. Great video though !

  • @mmmfs
    @mmmfs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got a GS mini (Koa Plus), and I totally agree. Everyone should have one, they are so easy to play and sound great.

  • @HSet77
    @HSet77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FAF... Yes we've noticed that phenomenon. Not just the biggest companies, even smaller boutique pedal companies.

  • @LeanBackMac
    @LeanBackMac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking back I love that this video was released the same day as my feed getting spammed by Silver Sky Se videos 😂. Perfect timing

  • @Frankyandhisguitar
    @Frankyandhisguitar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a good one, thanks fellas.

  • @Irg1570
    @Irg1570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Due to a positive career move, I've had a lot more money to spend on guitars in the last few years. I took advantage of that and bought, sold and traded a number of guitars until I settled on a handful that I really love. I'm so glad I had the chance to do that when I did. With prices going the way they are, it's becoming less appealing to chase after new gear. I love gear. I'm just going the love the gear I already have for a while.

  • @scottschmidt5198
    @scottschmidt5198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Inflation I get it , making money cool, but let’s try and keep it in check w wages which are not going up with the amount of inflation of products… quality goes down to pad earnings for company share holders….you are 100 percent correct and it’s a shame as a guy that loves to buy guitars

  • @cutez0r
    @cutez0r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Could someone please elaborate more on the substandard woods and quality points? It would be good to know what to look out for as a novice in the guitar world.

    • @jdl2180
      @jdl2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think they are talking about Poplar and basswood, they are alot cheaper and softer then the normal tonewoods like alder, mahogany, Maple, ash.

    • @dontdoit6986
      @dontdoit6986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alamo Music Center did an excellent video on tonewoods. th-cam.com/video/Y04TpXnbKRg/w-d-xo.html

  • @scottwelch8464
    @scottwelch8464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally agree! Waking up to all the SE Silver sky videos sucked. And the one store had one that looked like a paint chip along the pick guard. Great QC on that one. And the prices are getting nuts, I got two Gibson and a Bogner amp at a cost of a used car! Keep them videos rolling.

    • @johndef5075
      @johndef5075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having to look at those hideous headstocks is awful..😄

  • @garyjohnson8792
    @garyjohnson8792 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great topic. I agree with everything you guys said. Love Fenders but they are losing me with all the nonsense. My friends and I only buy Standards....so 2017 and up is a no go for us. Too much ridiculousness. I hate the new neck backplates on the pro 2s. The custom shops are nice but not worth 4 to 5 grand. Gibson went thru their own nonsense phase a few years back but seem to pulling their heads out of their ass lately and getting back on track.

  • @BlackDogOriginal
    @BlackDogOriginal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Brandon!

    • @timharbert7145
      @timharbert7145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trumps tax cuts contribute to inflation as well. So thank Cheeto Head too.

  • @edwardaverilliii1658
    @edwardaverilliii1658 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree with all of these points 110%. Price and quality drove me to drop physical guitars completely. Now I have a '59 Tele and a classic Les Paul with articulations and performance gestures, a custom-built nylon string acoustic, and 10 classic amps.. all in Kontakt. AND they get improvements for dozens of times less than a new axe. Screw cheap wood, screw crappy or non-existent QA, screw $1500 for $500 worth of guitar. I'm still a rat but I'm out of the race, and richer for it. Not saying this is right for everyone, but the tech is easily good enough to make it workable. Rock on!

  • @curtchildress7242
    @curtchildress7242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good stuff. Regarding tone woods for electric guitars, there is a camp that says wood doesn’t effect sound. I think there is some truth to that. Rest of the parts and acoustics well, yeah.

  • @darthsensei3838
    @darthsensei3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I think as an example. Harley Benton is the new Epiphone where as Epiphone is slowly creeping to a higher end brand again. I can’t believe the prices of used gear let alone new gear.

    • @USTTRM
      @USTTRM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I totally agree with that point. Harley Benton guitars do have QC issues sometimes but the quality, particularly in their DC custom line a copy of the Epi prophecy, it completely surpasses Epiphone in every aspect at a fraction of the price.

    • @darthsensei3838
      @darthsensei3838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@USTTRM That’s a great point. I think that’s what I was getting at. People used to say that about Epiphone like 10 years ago. I enjoy your Chanel btw! ✌️

  • @indytheshredder
    @indytheshredder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your top 5 were so spot on, now i’m curious about what the other 15 were lol.

  • @DammitCartman
    @DammitCartman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like big release days of a new product. Smart move on manufacturers part too, knowing the value in marketing isn’t an ad in Guitar World or whatever but, it’s on TH-cam. Plus getting reviews from some trusted channels.

  • @djangomaxfield
    @djangomaxfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fenders and gibsons are so expensive that new rickenbackers are starting to be pretty comparable in price

  • @BobPerrone
    @BobPerrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on with quality issues and odd selection of some "tone woods" lately.
    I have acute G.A.S but lately nothing is getting my interest in the 1000 and below range. I'm saving and holding off until something in the higher range that deserves my attention. Furch is one of those makers

  • @jaorte10
    @jaorte10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Makes me happy that I purchased handwired boutique amps a dozen years ago. And even then I thought nobody should be paying that much for amps. But now the same things would cost you $5000+ each.

  • @ryleebirkle3855
    @ryleebirkle3855 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a 1984 Ovation Ultra GS SSH which I had set up well, changed pickups to Suhr VS60LP in the neck, Suhr ML standard in the middle , and Thornbucker plus in the bridge (splitable), upgraded the bridge assembly with graph tech bridge saddles and brass block, new pots and cap, and it sounds like a million dollars................ Oh by the way the body is made of a plywood that looks like kind of a mahogany or korina type grain. The plywood doesn't make it sound bad at all. It sounds great......... I also have an Ovation UK II that has a body made of a very compressed foam material on and aluminum frame........ it is from 1982 and sounds great. Has to blade humbuckers with a series/parallel switch on each pickup....... sounds great............. so I hope they are talking about acoustic guitars if they are bemoaning cheap "tone wood".......

  • @andrewkrodel7976
    @andrewkrodel7976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Maybe add a #6 for unfounded hype (marketing something that is common but advertising as new).

  • @JeremiahHartmanPhotography
    @JeremiahHartmanPhotography 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #3 I think this is part of the new trend of "the customer is always wrong"...weather it's movies, tv, products whatever... the new trend seems to be trashing the customer instead of listening to the complaint and (if valid and doable) fixing the problem. Basically if you're not praising something...you're toxic and should not be listened to.

  • @danwarner4417
    @danwarner4417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew it! My money was on you from the beginning Baxter! Also, looking good in that sport coat

  • @cmays555
    @cmays555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You guys are absolutely spot on with everything you said in this video, number three is a big deal. Without being political, censorship is a big problem. I recently ordered a not really top of the line guitar, but a nice guitar, made by a brand that I guess I won’t say, but they are a major brand that begins with a capitol g. A version of a guitar I’ve wanted for some time too, and this will speak to the price problem too, $1400.00 guitar after all was said and done. When I received it it was a beautiful guitar, but it looked like a team of beavers had chewed up and down the neck! It was literally unplayable because of the rough area where the fretboard and neck meet, it was awful. That guitar should have never made it out of the factory, or the dealer. Sent it back and milled around for a couple weeks before I reordered the same guitar, got the new one and it is playable but still had a rough neck where the fretboard joins the neck. So far I have kept it for close to the allowable time to send it back. Going to keep it and just have it worked on I guess since I’m not comfortable that I could order one that’s not messed up in some way. Started asking around about quality control and all I got was “well you know how things are right now”, so all said and done, hopefully like you guys said it’s just a trend and not the norm.

    • @rikkousa
      @rikkousa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @cmays555 i’m glad you brought this up. You and I may have totally different beliefs and I may be totally wrong or you might be totally wrong but I will defend that freedom of speech -to my death if need be.The fact that far too many are tolerating censorship-. The Chinese have an expression, “kill a chicken and let all of the monkeys see. When I hear about people being canceled, deleted from Twitter , paypal, go find me, LinkedIn or TH-cam for that matter- It It leads to self censoring which is nearly as bad. Fortunately many many many people are waking up. The question is, what are we willing to do about it?

    • @MinivanMegafun100
      @MinivanMegafun100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rikkousa You're free to say anything you want. The company being bad mouthed is also free to say to a dealer that's slagging them publicly, "Well if that's how you feel then you won't be one of our dealers anymore." It's like if you go around shit talking one of your friends, they might not want to be your friend anymore. You're free to do so though.

    • @kennethh2430
      @kennethh2430 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've had very good experiences buying used Gibson's. Providing everything is photographed, potential issues described, etc...you will save a ton of money, and be happy knowing you got a hell of a deal. I've purchased 2 new Gibson's within the last year which were both promptly returned due to quality issues, they were not VOS, relic, or Murphy labs, so imo should have been pristine.

    • @jdl2180
      @jdl2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would get some sandpaper and fix it yourself.

    • @Ottophil
      @Ottophil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rikkousa some people think that being asked to stop being racist is censorship. But my grandfather censored a bunch of nazis in Ww2 with a bullet

  • @shanealan2995
    @shanealan2995 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just watched this video while my wife was watching tv. She perked up when she heard the Outlander scene referenced , proceeded to tell all about it. Thanks a lot a-hole

  • @solaris70
    @solaris70 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thankfully mY
    Double Fat
    98 MIM Fender Deluxe
    Stratocaster w/texmex
    Humbuckers
    is not upset about things and still
    enjoying the sounds and the view

  • @LuisMorales-xr1gm
    @LuisMorales-xr1gm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baxter, I have some advice for you when you arm wrestle John. So when you are all set,hands all gripped up ready to go, lift your fingers up off of the back of John's hand, and grab a handful of the nearby Beard and listen for the word "Go!" You win Hands & Beard down

  • @TVsGringoStarr
    @TVsGringoStarr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A negative trends video on the same morning as the SE Silver Sky launch.

    • @CasinoGuitars
      @CasinoGuitars  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Were actually pretty hopeful of the old SE launch:) Here's to hoping and thanks for tuning in!

    • @paulcowart3174
      @paulcowart3174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CasinoGuitars hopefully they are well under a K but probably not

  • @paristhalheimer
    @paristhalheimer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've noticed that Fender is putting less case candy in the case. When I got my 2018 American Original 60s Telecaster, it didn't come with a strap or a cable.

  • @ThisOldGuy3
    @ThisOldGuy3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nothing turns me off more to a new product or product release than seeing every YT influencer pimping it the first 2 weeks it's out.🤘🎸😎

  • @kere92
    @kere92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Seems like partscasters are the way to go, at least for me.

    • @DigitalChemistryBand
      @DigitalChemistryBand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rebuilding a G&L tribute myself... exceedingly hard to find for it though.

  • @ProfVonW
    @ProfVonW 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As someone who’s only occasionally interested in Fenders, I never know which model is the one I want. It’s almost comical. Do I want the American Player Pro or the Standard Ultra Vintera? Or do I want the Plus Performer II?

    • @MrDream-zm1pw
      @MrDream-zm1pw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go custom shop at this point haha

  • @duanewelsh5611
    @duanewelsh5611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As Norm Harris says " I paid too much so you can too"

  • @donkeyboy585
    @donkeyboy585 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My funny FAF story is seeing last week a certain TH-camr vid with the caption “DONT BUY A TELE UNTIL YOU TRY THIS” I chuckled and said to myself “too late I already bought a Schecter Tele because you said so” lol (I do love the guitar though)
    I’ll toss out a positive…Gibson who I rag on often is A… I think the last place you can get an under $1000 American guitar(how long who knows) and B.. apparently listened to the screams of its customers about THE worst gig bag in the industry and is now offering a decent soft case.

  • @joerob3081
    @joerob3081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's good to know there has been some form of arm wrestling prep going on. I made it halfway through outlander season 2 and that all I could take

  • @LeanBackMac
    @LeanBackMac 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started playing young. Dabbled with it for years as my third wind of guitar playing rolled around I wanted a nice Fender. Shopping around I got confused on a lot of small differences. I am also easy at talking myself up in products to get a better thing. Got a Pale Moon Strat now and it truly is my favorite purchase for guitars. It really just takes playing a lot of guitars. Prices have begun to hike once again and it sucks. But I think its also helping me Enjoy my guitars more, Until I trade in my Ibanez Gio on a new guitar.

  • @martywilkinson6722
    @martywilkinson6722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny, my entire feed today is the SE Silver Sky!

  • @robertmazzola1347
    @robertmazzola1347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. Most of your points are what I’ve been saying for quite some time. I get really confused by all the models ; so much that my last 6 guitar purchases have been used instruments that I know exactly what they are. (All within the last 5 years). Since when is poplar a tone wood?