The Common Sense Farm
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- ‘The Common Sense Farm’ is a documentary short that brings us into the world of the Twelve Tribes, a communal Judeo-Christian religious group often referred to as a cult. Their insulated way of life has led to a fragile relationship with the outside world, sparking controversies, conflicts and misunderstandings on both sides of the fence.
Director/Writer/Producer: Kathleen Russell
DP: Charles Farrell
Sound/Additional Camera: Sarah Yasinski
Editor: Mookie Singerman
Faculty Advisor: Jamie Meltzer
A production of the Vassar College Film Department, 2005 - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
I think the real meaning of his name is "Cult too cheap to pay for my dental work."
I hope the boy isn't in pain :(
thats what happens when you drink too much of the kool aid
No, the proper translation is "the springtime joy that comes from harkening with the intent to brush my teeth".
🤣🤣🤣
There’s not enough Orajel in the world…. ouch
they don't want the youth to talk with each other because they might get the idea to leave that hell hole. two young minds are stronger than one
TRYING TO GET 700 SUBSCRIBERS WITH NO UPLOADS young minds question more
I left this place
Met these guys in San Diego California on ocean Beach and they brought me to their commune in Vista California and would not bring me back home when I wanted them to. I had to hitchhike out of the mountains. Had no idea where I was. These people are freaky. Way too nice. Manipulative and most definitely a cult lol. I don't trust em.
HI Bill, I'd like to hear your story. How can I contact you?
bill ben r u serious BRO.. can u tell me more
bill ben I've never met any of these people and never heard of it until recently. I'm glad you made it out okay
Thanks for sharing. Sorry about what happened, but it allows me to understand better.
@@9hauntedhiker th-cam.com/video/IS6HAmZjtEA/w-d-xo.html This video might interest you.
The girl Shua in this video left and now speaks out against this group. Also numerous people in this video have left...
Shua has not left.
I left, Kathleen
There is a Shuah Jones who speaks out against the cult, but she left at the age of 15.
where does she speak out. please send us a link, or put us in touch and we can help document. thanks
@@morethangoodfood8083 check inside edition, they may have something under "shuah jones" reguarding the cult
"I am very happy here 😐"
"I'm very excited about my marriage 😐"
"Things are better here 😐"
In a lot of ways they are better.
Lmfaoooo
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Its sad how many brainwashed people there are..
Gabriela Nikolova
Society brainwashes many men into thinking we need a good looking lady to make us happy, truth is we Don't!
Red Sox!
Well, you're kinda right about that, but it's a lot easier to be happy with what you mentioned.
Some are also insane. Notice how the creepy looking guy laughs and overall behaves like a fucking psycho? I fear he vents on the children, which he has hinted at several points.
Unloved and lost so sad resort to this
@@nirad8026 You decided heis a psycho just because he is unattractive and has missing teeth. How about people who cut of their genitalia and claim to be women trapped in male body??? Don't be so judgmental.
As an ex member it's always interesting to see people on these videos i used to know and live with.
What was your experience like?
@@livenfree like the video in part.
“You wanna know the meaning of my name? Yeah? It means: the entirety of my diet consists of clueless indoctrination, methamphetamine, and golf-ball sized chunks of granite”
I'm so glad that boy who ran away got adopted at the age of 14, it's telling that he calls his biological dad his bio dad and that's it, he's got decent loving parents now!
These people seem so sweet and kind, but ultimately this is a cult. I love two miles from one of their compounds, in another 'planned community' if you will. We've had plenty of people mistake us for 12 tribes and I've heard stories from ex members. They are terrified that the sense of 'community' does not exist in the secular world. Many of them have never had their own money or possessions (lots of second generation members) though they began working before they could remember, and 19 is rather old for these kids to marry. I live in a state where 16 is the age of consent for up to four years age difference. Plenty of 16 year olds marrying 17 year olds in there... because their parents decided their spouse around 12-14 years of age. The beatings do not follow normal spanking. Most of us had to be pretty defiant to get spanked, but the kids only need to ask a question. I am actively trying to get people together to help these people escape on their terms, in my community.
The reason why many don't have any pocessions is because Christ requires a total surrender to everything one has to follow Him as Luke 14 verse 33 which Christainity don't believe but they do.
They don't need any money. They are well taken care of. They even let anyone who wants to visit their community to stay with them for free. They are very resourceful.
They have to give all their possessions to the community when they join. This is why they have nothing.
@@martintodd7712 Ironic they give up everything...but the obvious question is...who actually gets the possessions and money? Who makes the decisions on spending that money? That's the rub.
They based their cult on the Bible, however the Bible was written - and edited over and over - by aristocracy and rulers, involving forgery and fabrication on a large scale. So this cult may assume it is doing it out of some sense of spirituality, but it is based upon one person's perspective of spirituality in that regard, not the individual. Thie entire worldview is based upon the fallacy of circular logic....'the Bible is true because the Bible claims it is true'.
As a religion scholar of over 35 years, I should know. I was once going into seminary myself until I found out the Bible is merely just a compilation of myths and legends, (largely based upn astrotheology, sun worship) and not really based on true events in the sense that people often assume. (For example, there is literally ZERO archeological evidence for the Exodus...one of the biggest supposed events in the Bible, with millions of people in the desert for 40 years. Not a single shred of artifacts or signs of such 'wandering habitation' are found in that region from such an event). Just one example out of thousands that show the Bible and its stories are myths and legends and not based upon actual historical events.
The same goes for the character 'Jesus Christ' in the Bible. There is not a shred of evidence for such a person. This should also ultimately be obvious in the fact that no historian of his supposed time ever mentioned a Jesus Christ figure of that time period. Not until almost a 100 years go by before 'Roman Catholic' church related historians bring up the name/title of Jesus Christ.
were you able to rescue anyone from the cult?
I've been to their restaurant in Vermont. Their proselytizing is especially insulting, manipulative, and creepy. I'm so glad this kind of thing no longer appeals to me at all. A decade ago, it had a spark of charm.
For all those who like to go to festivals and take drugs. These people literally have buses they take to festivals and find people and bring them back to their "home". I've known people in the twelve tribes some who have left and some who are still there people choose what makes them happy i guess but don't get on random people's buses that should just be a thing anyway... Unorganized rant done
Truthfully Transient
Do they welcome and let people go and live with them??
This Brit would love to go volunteer for them!
There is a conspiracy that a guy who went to electric forest this year may have been lead into this cult. He is currently missing but this is the current theory
@@karlenecrecelius8339 hopefully forest this year can help bring light to his status... its unfortunate he's still missing
Also lookout for the bus this year if you're going, rumors state it will be there
See ya in the forest :)
This really needs to be said, I saw a bus like theirs at Shambhala in 2018 and got a bit nervous but it was just a normal Hippy couple's bus that was for sale... because they didn't want to paint over it but they wanted to paint another bus lol
Are we all going to act like that man wasn’t sitting there talking with a meth lab behind him
I was thinking the same thing he cookin up lol😂🤪
They make organic body care products on the common sense farm. They sell them too online. They don't make meth or do drugs of any kind (except for yerba maté lol)
That’s what I thought
that young naive man says his name in the community in hebrew translates as ""the spring time love that comes from harkening with intent to obey", what a pompeous name!!!!. how about saying it in more simple terms: HAPPY SLAVE
Hi Ricco,
Could you email danhowlettproducer@gmail.com? I'm a film maker who would really like to speak with you.
Dan
to MrRoymond: as an ex-member I say: run for the hills, avoid them like the plague and you will save yourself and your loved ones the unnecessary countless sufferings. But if you really want to experience loss of freedom and handing over the control of your life to a fanatic extremist zero freedom experiment...that would be the right place for you, just don't involve your kids in that because really it is only fair to put yourself in this situation because you want that experience, it is not fair to force this experience against someone's will
MrRoymcd
Don't go by feeling. Look long hard and objectively and research both sides and look inside at what motivates you if you have the spirit of truth. If not -- pain is the great awakener if you can't learn any other way.
Ricoo Chie...his name actually has a ver, very significant and deep meaning. It actually accurately translates as....''shitforbrains.''
@MrRoymcd did you join
Isaiah sent me here
Same doing some research for more details on the story
He needs to change his name to mean "A Springtime journey to a Periodontist with an intent to fix my rotten teeth"!
12 tribes are thought to have around $500 Million in their coffers... surely they can afford a dentist for their slaves!
Why are you making fun of his teeth. Appearance is not all that matters. Quite shallow
Never heard of them before until I stopped by The Yellow Deli. Jones Town keeps coming to mind. : l
He literally said they were a cult. Admitted to it.
Every religion is a cult
@@nadegejacquet2531 no
That poor girl.
Working 18 hour days spreading the messiahs message of living together and slave labor for their master....because apparently God always needs more money
Yeah, kids should be sat in front of the TV/computer all day....
These kids are learning life skills. And I am sure the 18 hours aren't gruesome like you make it sound.
Of course kids need to learn life skills. Cleaning their bedroom. washing the dishes, mowing the lawn. This is not O.K.
Josh, there are only 24 hours in a day. And, sorry but, they beat children with sticks.
@@lorenzomanzoni1478 oh, please. there's evil in all people. evil in nazis, evil in religious folk, and evil in regular people. there's also goodness in many.
@@joshbaker2157 Life skills?? Haha.
Don't get on the pretty red bus on the Phish lot folks ... and if you must get on the bus, DON'T drink the tea
Wtf is this tea you speak of?
Unknown Atlas don’t know, but I woke up in the compound
too much thinking and learning might get you into trouble! that makes total sense.
Tom (Tom and Willadeen) was a host at a guest meal in Boston. He said I needed to repent. I told him I'm not disagreeing with you but why? He didn't answer. Later he said it again. I asked "What is your reason?" (cause I knew his only reason was cause I was not living with them and he had asked me How do you love if you are not living in the community and I answered him what he couldn't gainsay -- "By not reacting to the evil things people do, evil is no longer pushing my buttons and I love people by not hating.") He said "Your reason is your God". I told him "God is peaceable and open to reason and satan is the accuser of the brethren. All you do is accuse me but refuse to give a reason". He kicked me out and told me what he must have heard God tell him -- "You can come back when you repent" but God was saying it for him -- Tom could come back to God when Tom comes back to his senses.
I was baptized there many years earlier and had been away for awhile. They hit on me with the accusations when /I was living there. Joshua Brosseau accused me of being disobedient when he asked me to jar peanut butter and I did. I told Joshua "All lies are from the devil". They were going to kick me out then but I told them that David Woodward/Echad taught that the devil does not fly in magically but comes through a brother or sister. Because I based my action on their teaching they didn't kick me out but it was the beginning of the end for me cause they forgave me when /I didn't do anything and they didn't say anything to Joshua that he should apologize.
There was some truth in what Joshua said but he delivered it in a confusing manner. Months earlier Gene Sprigs had told me to stop reading the Bible on my own. After a few weeks I figured he must have meant apart from the Holy Spirit so I started reading it again. He saw me and said "I thought I told you.." I said "I stopped reading it without the Holy Spirit. He must have been pissed and said something to Joshua who resented me or whatever.
Actually I did have an experience where God spoke to me and I was disobedient before I went there. I've heard people say stuff like some voice or premonition told them to not get on the plane and the plane crashed and stuff. I had a warning like that I ignored and I suffered greatly in my life for it so I'll give Joshua an honorable mention.
They also teach that Adam loved Eve and took the forbidden fruit out of love. What ego-prideful jive. Adam used Eve to justify himself and males are no different with females today.
Tom put me out at 10 pm in Boston. I slept in my car and was overjoyed that speaking the truth had set me free from them. I don't like the responsibility of making decisions and isn't that one of the big attractions, feelings of relief from life's pressures in exchange for the protection of the community -- institutionalization mistaken for the Holy Spirit.
Not my cup of Tea....Never.
The weeding scene reminds me of a scene from the movie Midsummer.
Thank you for doing this Documentary. I grew up in the town this group is from Cambridge, NY and it is very good to see some elements of this farm get the attention it deserves.
I came across them in east Durham, it was a different experience I must say, didn’t know what the yellow deli was about as soon as I walked in the energy was different I couldn’t explain it until I found out about the 12 thrives
9:19 pretty much confirmed it's a cult
2:40 that’s no way she’s actually 19.
I've known more than a few people in TN who have left this group. From what they told me this is documentary is pretty accurate.
I don't see the problem.
It'd be fine if their authority was actually the bible. They are led by a spirit, but I can't reckon which one, or what's going on, because some teachings are unbiblical. There are things they do that are good and things that are bad. Denying the Diety of Jesus, and also believing if they fail, God will kill himself is not very biblical. In genesis 15 when God walks through the split animals, Abraham is asleep so it's a vow fully contingent on the Lords ability to fulfill not our ability. Their leader doesn't fulfill the standard God gives for a prophet either, and was rather hypocritical by many accounts, if he really believed God was telling him to institute these rules, he'd probably be good to do them. Lastly, they believe in justification by keeping the law. Paul warns of people in latter times falling from the faith believing that kashrut is necessary etc. They are wonderfully sweet people and I've very much dwellt on whether I'm being called to it, but they are basically are bible critics trying to reconstruct what the autographs said without any of documents necessary let alone the expertise so they allow a spirit to guide them in their interpretation which is a recipe for being misled. The bible was promised to be preserved and the recieved text does a fantastic job of that. If they would come under scriptural authority they'd be great, also though they need to rethink other things too because kicking women and children to the street doesn't seem like it would be pleasing to the God of the Widow and the Orphan. There's a woman on youtube called Jillybeenz who experienced essentially that and I met someone who knew of an elderly lady they kicked out after she had given them all the money she had from her deceased husband, she's retirement age and on the street now. I since saw they didn't allow an elderly man to join, just allowed him to stay, so I don't know if they've wised up to that, which is fantastic if so and shows a good heart to learn from previous mistskes on how to not hurt people, but still a big yikes, I've never met her to verify this story btw. All in all they have a lot of work ahead of them and it probably entails admitting Yoneq wasn't a prophet. It's apparently not enough to have something communal and unspotted by the world, they also have to deny everyone elses experiences with regards to a relationship with God. They believe Jesus is the devil, this thesis of theirs deeply troubles me. I don't find it convincing, because I've seen God has helped people, and the scriptures are more than clear of the Sons Diety. John 8:24 is explicit that if you don' believe he's God you will die in your sins. Their whole eschatology is reliant on the bible especially the last book being true, but then doubt the veracity of the previous ones. We have a supernatural God that loves us, and is more than capable of keeping his promise to protect his word and if you look at the history until the KJV that's clearly what happens. It's even promised in psalm 12:6-7 and if Jesus needed scripture to avoid being led astray by the devil it's the height of either conceit or lunacy to think we don't. They are right though Love covers a multitude of sins and submitting yourself to someone else is part of the process of what saves. I'll admit I cannot reconcile their beliefs with the scripture we are promised, yet I feel very compelled to want to join, and there have been many extremely compelling signs and wonders while I was there, and even while I was away. I wish a more honest conversation was something they were interested in. In my heart I believe, but they are going against scripture and Jermiah warns the heart is wicked.
The “discipline” is terrible but my gosh they aren’t even allowed to play with other children... not only physical discipline but also mental discipline.
So her husband basically owns her now? Marriage should be equal between the 2 people and not either one of them should have authority over the other
Equality is a myth. No two people are equal.
@@inthebriarpatch Why can't people be treated equal?? Even if one has a little more power in the relationship because of personality does not mean the other person can have no power over their lives and people's lives.
This is the true Christian way. Women are made from men’s rib cage.
You're surprised that a fundamentalist Christian group abides by the writings of the bible?
He doesn't own her though? He is responsible to be her partner in the way that the Bible prescribes.
I feel so sorry for the young kids who were born into this. This is a fate worse than death to be involved in this freaky cult shit.
BAGAKOOS my friend was born there but him and his parents left after birth so he's a pretty Normal kid
MANY WHO LEFT GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE EVILS OF THE WORLD ALCOHOL DRUGS ETC ETC .. BUT YES THE ONES WHO LEFT AND GREW UP THERE DID GET TAUGHT MUCH SELF CONTROL.. TOO BAD THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES NOT TEACH THEIR CHILDREN SELF CONTROL
Hi David,
I left. I was not brought up there nor beaten. I did not get into drugs or alcohol. I have much self control. I'm not the only one, a rarity or a minority.
Many who grew up there and left got into drugs and theft etc to a greater degree than most unbelievers I know. What is your point?
Reacting to a rod in fear is not self control. At best it is man disciplining in the best way he knows. When our eternal uncreated father disciplines me I understand why and it doesn't confuse me. When my earthly father disciplined me one time I understood I had gone too far and I understood he loved me and it hurt him to do it. I think many (most or all?) of the parents in the community don't discipline out of love.
When someone loses self control and becomes a threat to themselves or others and is locked in an institution it can be a relief for that person to not have to make decisions etc. They can become institutionalized. I believe most people in the community don't know the difference between the relief of responsibility in institutionalization and the Holy Spirit.
What you seem to be doing is idolizing community by romanticizing (exaggerating) about it.
NO I JUST DO NOT SEE IT AS EVIL AS THE REST OF THE WORLD WHICH PUSHES SATANIC IMAGES ETC ETC RIGHT ON TV THESE DAYS AND SO MANY CHILDREN BEING KIDNAPPED AND MURDERED AND SEXUALLY ABUSED .. IT IS SICKENING .. I TOO AM LIKE YOU AN EX MEMBER BUT LEFT BECAUSE OF ONE WHO WAS IN AUTHORITY BUT HIGH ON DRUGS EBED D.. ANYWAY .. I STILL SERVE OUR FATHER ANYWAY AND SEEK OTHERS WHO CHOOSE TO DO THE SAME AND I STILL DO NOT HAVE TV RADIO MOVIES GAMES SPORTS IN MY LIFE.... SEEKING OTHERS WHO WANT TO BRING TOGETHER THAT LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE TT CONTACT ME AT THREEANGESDAVID AT GMAIL EX TT MEMBER
DAVID
I DON'T EVEN HAVE A TV NOR COMMIT CRIMES... I DO THINK EUGENE ELBERT YONEQ SPRIGS LYING TO HEPZIBAH ABOUT CUTTING HER THUMB OFF AND LIKENING THAT TO ABRAHAM IS EVIL. I ALSO THINK THE LIE "TWELVE TRIBES" IS EVIL. I DON'T SEE SPRIGS AS EQUAL TO AN APOSTLE LET ALONE MOSES OR JOSHUA OR JESUS AS THE COMMUNITIES CLAIMS MAKE HIM. I THINK HE LIKES TO SHOCK PEOPLE BECAUSE IT GIVES HIM POWER. I DON'T BELIEVE ITS A BIG DEAL BUT THEIR TEACHING ON THE FIRST DEATH IS OBVIOUSLY FALSE.
I THINK THE BIG PROBLEM WITH KABBALA, YOGA, ETC IS THE ARE TRYING TO WORK THEIR WAY UP TO GOD AND THE COMMUNITY PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS THE SAME THING. JESUS SAID TO SIMON "BLESSED ARE YOU FOR FLESH AND BLOOD DID NOT REVEAL THIS TO YOU". SPRIGS ONCE SAID 'A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS A DANGEROUS THING. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL CAUSE WE COULD BECOME THE BIGGEST PHARISEES ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.' AND FOR THE MOST PART THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS BUT NOT MUCH BIGGER THAN ANY OTHER WORK OF THE FLESH.
ALL THAT ASIDE I SYMPATHIZE WITH YOUR DESIRE TO SHARE YOUR LIFE WITH OTHER LIKE MINDED BRETHREN. I DON'T CALL THE COMMUNITY LIFESTYLE EVIL AND I'M NOT AGAINST THE COMMUNITY FOR THE SAME REASON MOST OF CHURCHIANITY REJECTS THEM BUT IN HEAVEN AS ON EARTH IS SUBTLE PRIDE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALL NEED TO BE FREE FROM. ARE YOU FREE FROM THAT DAVID?
WHAT STATE ARE YOU WORKING OUT OF -- NEW YORK? DO YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY YET?
Dangerous cult beware.
Cults are seriously the scariest thing I know of. It's so real and it effects so many people in such a massive negative way.
The worst part is that there is always a twisted, greedy , evil guy in the top who knows it's all bullshit but none of the members will ever admit it due to brain washing.
I feel so bad for them. Wasting their life for that liar on top taking adventage of them.
The vast majority of the world is a cult and few get free from their hypnotic state of mind. People are probably safer in the communities than the average person not.
They are too cheap to get dental care... People have died due to lack of modern medicine...
How often?
Ah well improvements no reply? Because you have none. You defend the indefensible. Improvements read police records and court documents don't lie but you do cult defender. www.question12tribes.com has all the real information about Twelve Tribes Criminal Activity spanning over 40 years. They have left many victims in the wake of their pursuit of their one true god which is money, mammon.
250 thousand people out of how many saved? Millions! And I would like to see where you got that figure! That is total bullshit! Prove it!
and this is coming from an idiot who thinks the earth is flat? Take a hike fool...
The correct number is around 100 thousand.www.collective-evolution.com/2013/05/07/death-by-prescription-drugs-is-a-growing-problem/
Thank you for posting!
Cool that you found it!
Just sent you a message on LinkedIn...I think. If I found the right profile, I did.
Masters of bad lsd trips. Dont get on there bus lol.
Their* and yess
Y’all prey on high people at shows, you make Christianity look like pure evil
Christianity is pure evil. Some just more than others
This cult doesn’t mention racism or race at all, they teach that races don’t exist
@@monkeyton5 No, they consider white people superior even with blacks in their groups.
Stew Matter most so-called christians do too...
Many things bad about it which outshadow the good things, because of hurt and frightened people
The worst part is how they treat children
She really doesn't look like 19
It’s one thing to make a decision as an adult. Taking into consideration experiences, interactions, relationships, goals, ambitions, etc....A life lived up to a point possibly found lacking or inadequate. Maybe the stars have aligned perfectly to fulfill your dreams of dancing and making handmade soap for the lord. Hallelujah!! How DARE these self righteous abusers make this decision for these children. Whether brought or born into it, this is disgusting!
The children can leave at a certain age. Many have. No one is forced to marry. Seems like those sacrificed to the public school system fornicating and taking drugs many of them are worse off. You like to stand outside and judge one cult but are too blind to see from the "beam in your own eye, the whole world is a cult and few get free from it.
At least they have standards that are way better than fornicating with hundreds before giving herself or himself into marriage, or being drunk and high like college students do.
Sad. the world does not know what freedom really is. Read Matthew chapters 5, 6 and 7 and obey the Lord Jesus Christ to know real freedom and to be saved. Repent, believe and obey the gospel.
You could say the same thing about any culture. If a police raids them and traumatize all the children in the process, then forcibly separates the siblings into different families and changes their names in a hope that they will completely forget who they were, does that seem right to you? To be clear, I am very much against physical punishment and I think children should be raised to be independent and free to make their own choices and It is sad and outrageous to see that they put their children through abuse, believing it's a best way to raise them. But I am also disgusted with our unsustainable way of life where everything is geared towards profit and progress to the point where we are literally killing the whole planet, and I had no choice either. Also, people from different families have different life options, leaving many doomed to poverty; many people do not really have an option over their career paths, and so on.
I laughed when the guy said cults in “air quotes” 😂
But we want our children to fear going out of our boundaries
@@herewegokids7 maybe like you want your children to fear going in the community.
@@herewegokids7 every family teaches their children what they believe is appropriate. Even satanists do it, but when people that believe in the bible do it, it is wrong. What a world of hypocrisy and inconsistency we live in.
Repent, believe and obey the gospel of Jesus Christ to be saved.
No ones here against their will... the kids are. They are being hurt against their will. Monsters.
my mom was born into this cult and my mom was too .im only a sixth grader but i know a lot from the experience.they claim to be all about love and hating the devil but they undermine this new disciples and they claim to be the shephard and the members to be sheep .they hate people not obeying the leaders
Man these people can be so easily manipulated. Must be nice to be one of the leaders...
I think there is some goodness in this..and some ugliness too...MIND CONTROL....is not of GOD....
This is why cults need to be illegal
i was born into this and my mom was.we have left and anyone who has,they think their going to hell
there's a fine line between law and good, but these people can't see it and just stand on the side of the former thinking they're on the latter.
Those rotten teeth got me running for the hills.
Bruh I grew up in the 12 tribes and I left when I was 6 but I still remember the shit that happened there
The names they give these people are weird and unique at the same time
They are Hebrew names
Cultural appropriation bitches.
I respect the idea of living a natural, wholesome life...but this is a little squirrelly.
They have CULTure
still a cult sad to see faces of people I have known
This honstely reminds me of North Korea and it makes me feel sick
I grew up in it
@@Lunathemermaid I hope you’re doing well.
I still deal with ptsd. But I have done alot of healing. I have integrated into society.
@@Lunathemermaid Oh, my. My condolences. Good luck with the rest of your life of living and healing.
That young couple are going to have 10+ kids and do physical work all day and be exhausted and still think they live in paradise.
I have found a lot of the former members who ran away as teenagers were all 14. I wonder what it is that makes them finally realize that what is happening to them is wrong or maybe it is simply at that age they are given a little more freedom so they therefore have the ability to run away than when it would have been harder or even impossible at a younger age due to people keeping watch over them.
JL
It's just like education -- if you rebel or conform your buttons are still being pushed by the same external pressure. The ones who leave are the rebellious ones and the ones who conform stay.
If you raise a child as is best suited for them they will not depart from it.
The community does not do that. They suppress the natural inner G'D given sense of wonder and curiosity and cause rebellion or conformity but like compulsive learning, it dumbs you down as much as rebelling and taking drugs.
The girls might be afraid of being married to some old creep
10:45 If this is not staged (which is unlikely), then apparently this girl is not even sure if she's believing in what she's saying. Notice how her facial expressions change when she mentions “commitment“?
You take a lot of things for granted in the culture you grow up in. It's not staged. It's just the culture she grew up in.
@@dougr6269 Ok but do you have a rational explanation for the way she instantly switches her expression in a melodramatic way when she says that particular word "commitment". As if it has some profound meaning for her, and forced her to think heavily. Usually people when speaking of something they do, will not become so confused of what they are speaking, unless they have doubts over it.
I'm not saying she doubts any of the teachings (in fact, if it's not staged I'm pretty sure she is at least trying to be honest) but she seems to be insecure about it. Like if you are indoctrinated into something and then you must regurgitate what you were told, but they haven't quite stuck.
@@nirad8026 Minute 10:44- 10:49 I believe she is a sentient person and reflects her understanding. Giving up our life has a weight to it. Yeshua suffered for the glory set before him. She's getting married and giving up a lot and reflecting on baptism as taught in the community is a serious thing. I don't believe she is exaggerating at all, just expressing. I think you are being a little melodramatic using the words "rational", "instantly". I don't think she is confused. She sounds rational. My explanation, if she seems insecure, is she is young and inexperienced. She is going off into an unknown for her.
@@dougr6269 No need to get personal dude. I was just intrigued by the way she acted. Are you a member of her organization? Do you have particular interests in defending her from me? If not, you can at least recognize that I really said nothing bad. We are looking way too deep into something probably benign. My original comment was, again, just me pondering.
@@dougr6269 Also I am an Orthodox Christian and, despite us being extremely conservative and people being openly religious, I rarely see such devotion. Perhaps it's a cultural difference. In my country we don't have the American-type religious fundamentalists. It's a different mentality.
The Beat Children Pure cult, wich forbid their kids from having toys or express imagination of any kind. To make them "so pure they breathe fire".
The very idea turns my stomach.
Awwwwww Quashab you are just adorable :)
The harkening whatever with the intent to obey needs to see a dentist.
Who is the leader of your cult? Just so we're clear... it's not Jesus.
Elbert Eugene Spriggs. Search the name,...
I hear drives a nice 7 series BMW these days.
Wouldn't surprise me Trimmer but I thought he had dementia pretty bad since they excused his wife for sexual immorality.
The cult from Far Cry 5 is like these guys and the Westboro Baptist Church had a baby...
These kids don’t even know what they’re missing in the real world… Probably never even had a burrito off the burrito truck... they trippin
What's to miss in the real world. What real world? It's their choice. I think they live a good life in their communities. They are not missing much.
@@nadegejacquet2531 they are missing every possible experience of acting as an individual. but from all the comments I've seen you make you may be a perfect asset to this cult, another mindless follower.
The kids always look soooo serious 😢
They are only sweet and kind while you are doing what they want, believing what they want. There is no room for creativity or originality which is fine if you are a robot. It's really sad, because they have some neat things going on.
Thanks to the declaration of independence and the constitution there's religious freedom and many forms of freedom that shouldn't be restrained or restricted. This is why the twelve tribes could thrive, for they are completely innocent. Their life is so beautiful...
"Freedom" to me, means the exact opposite of it's actual definition. :)
Prime Christian Communism
It’s like the Tennessee version of Gloriavale
When sick people are in charge of others = this.
12:35 confirmed it’s a cult with the hooded robes hey
Lol that is only at weddings. They represent the evil on earth.
Ricoo chief you actually understand
That guy at 13:17 says be quiet and not shut up. Lol wut a jurk.🤣
I've had many numerous encounters with these people over many years and I can tell you from personal experience they are very kind, transparent and genuinely decent people who are very dedicated to what they believe.... I encourage anyone who is curious about them to find out for themselves
You are right. They are very kind people. The negative comments on here are from those who believe everything they hear without knowing the full truth.
They literally say it is good to beat up little children. What is wrong with you?
Fucking hell! Thanks for letting me know about this, TellTale...
the Dasani water might be the worst part
1st guy's name means "I don't like dentists" Lol
I feel bad for those people.
Why do these guys remind me of the Los Illuminados?
They make sense, but the children are obviously upset.
Yeah it all looks very pretty but don't forget Kevin Donovan's story. I know this group, and his story is mild compared to others.
I worked there in August of 2009 but had to leave due to the leadership that was there at the time. I dont think the people on this video met me.
Their music is pretty great though
Does anyone have a clue what happened to the young lady in this video? Is she still married to the man or ???
Where's the African American Asian and Latino members.
nonexistent because they are racist along with many other things.
@@krisburns927 I'm aware.
They are there more so in CA, Georgia and Australia then other places
Sad that this is a cult. We all long for a good society. Unfortunately, what starts out with good intentions, leads to the pathway to hell.:(
"Anyones welcome to leave!"
"We want our children to fear going out of our boundaries"
These people are fucking evil
And you are told that if you leave, you will die within 7 years of leaving the group
I heard this German story in ITN
Where do these kids meet there partners?
I was born and raised in this cult. Happy to see them tumble!
My aunts name is Shuah
why re there dislikes?
hey ..can I have a cult light secret sauce on my yellow deli sandwich while my kids are put in romper room ..oh wait where did my kids go ?
Just don't drink their kook aid aka matte
There needs to be evil in order for there to be good this cult is very INSANE and needs to be disbanded seriously its annoying when people don't think about the balance there can't just be good all the time.
Great theater. What a bunch of nuts.
If you have children hope you don't mind beating them frequently and consistently until they are black and blue or having others do it.
Hypnotists get past your critical thinking before they plant the post hypnotic suggestion. After years of suffering one day you hopefully wake up by the great awakener, pain, and see what you have let go for.
These are the kind of teachings they don't let you see until you're cemented in --
“Hephzibah is coming to understand that she is living for her father and belongs to him. The other day she was having great difficulty being obedient to his command: not to suck her thumb in bed. Elbert (Yoneq the apostle of all 12 tribes) asked her to stick out her thumb because he was going to cut it off. He took a huge pair of scissors and came toward her. She was terrified, but (after receiving her discipline) she willingly stuck out her thumb to be cut off rather than let it cause her to stumble in her obedience to her father. Elbert didn’t actually cut it off (how kind of him), but he wants Hephzibah to understand that it is better to have your hand cut off now rather than later. He wants her to be saved.”
They try to liken Gene/Yoneq terrorizing a little girl by lying to her about cutting off her thumb to Abraham but Isaac was not terrorized because Abraham said to Isaac “God will provide for Himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son”
Gene Sprigs ("Yoneq") flipped out on Eddie Wiseman for wearing $45 Clark shoes Michael Painter sold him. Gene made Eddie return them. Michael later found 5 pairs of New Balance $179 a pair hiking boots in Bill Hinchliff’s closet that Gene had Bill get for him. Gene/Yoneq flies around the world dressed in nice clothing while his community members wear worn out clothes and often work 16 hours a day.
Did you know that Yoneq is not just their apostle but above the 12 apostles equal to Moses, Joshua or Jesus/Yahshua because Yoneq claims to be the founder of all 12 tribes today. The apostles only represented 1 tribe each. The community does not admit to him being in total control of all the teachings but perhaps that changed now since his short term memory is allegedly going.
yup , go to question12tribes for the full documented story on child abuse. and try helping the children
You are obviously delusional
The girls see much of their own clothing
am i watching midsommar rn
Sounds like a religious prison.
Their slow songs sound like Seal. What an odd group.