You are right Martin for sure. These 4 basic measurements are used in almost EVERY sheet metal fitting made by hand. It eliminates a time consuming process and just makes each job less physically cumbersome to lay out. Over the course of an entire job, the time saving is tangible.
Bonsoir Sir, I like that ( That's my story and I'm sticking to it !! ) LOL Great hand made scribe !!! Great trick too !!! You are very efficient Sir !!! Keep warm and Keep up your STEEL PICASSO WORK SIR CHEERS !!!
@@tractorman4461 Not all Sir !! It Was -16f last night 🥶 but I realy hope that it will melt slowly very slowly because if it does melt fast I will need to reactive my two canoes to get back at the base for my daily comute lol !!!
@@RCAFpolarexpress Hahahahaha....now THAT's a funny one Dave. But you are right, there will be a lot of water when everything melts. Maybe it will all end up at Niagara Falls !! But if you float over it in the canoe with Scotty and Ruby, make sure you all three are wearing your seat belts !!
Hopefully you have a couple small pieces of stainless steel to make them out of. The point will hold much longer with SS than galvanized material. Good luck Stephen. I have tons of layout vids up in the playlists if you are interested. Here's a sample: th-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html
Thank you for sharing!!! Forgot all about these until I saw one of your videos of you using them One of our first projects we had to make in shop class and graded on. Sheet metal and welding back in 1987!! I wish I had my original, we even marked the fractions on them as well, can't remember how, If punched with stamps or scribed.. Anyway, thanks for sharing all your videos, I'm going to make another Sheet metal scribe for the toolbox
I like to cut 'em out of stainless because they stay crisp on the end much longer. Galvanized will do, but you've got to trim them often to keep a sharp tip. I'm glad it sparked a good memory for you Joseph. Thanks for watching.
Yes, very beneficial for layout. I use the circumference rule for 1 1/4'' and the 4' square for the 2'' measurement instead of measuring them all the time. Thanks for watching and adding a comment.
I made one up years ago out of 24 gauge stainless. 1/4" increments up to 2". I avoid using it on plasma burned fittings because they'll wear a groove in them. Thxs for the vids!
Great !! I snag stainless steel scraps any time I can just for this purpose. I like the square instead of all of them in a line up and down a thinner piece. But its all just personal preference. When they dull, just snip off another little angle piece to expose a new tip !!
Heck yeah David, no problem at all. I've had a good number of viewers on the sheet metal series of videos ask where it came from or how I made it or to just do a video highlighting it....so here it is !! LOL
Thank you Mickey. Its just something to keep from wasting time measuring the standard increments in from the edge of a sheet of metal for the various bends. There's a lot of its uses shown within this layout series in the playlists: th-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html
Back in the 70's, an old timer had taken me under his wing and showed me how to make one. Mine is made from .062 304 stainless and has served me well all these decades. It's a great idea Wendell!
Stainless is the answer. It sure holds the point over galvanized 8 days a week !! I like the homemade ones because they are so easy to resharpen if necessary.
T M 44 Tools! Made in U S A! Now how cool is that in these times of China tools? Thanks TM 44 for another workshop Vid! I’ll be tippin ya inna morn! DaveyJO
Well DaveyJO, it ain't much of a tool but it sure does serve a real purpose in the tin shop !! I'm on my second pot for the morning....and it's all been good so far. LOL....even tipped the first your way my friend.
Davey jo Weaver you sir are right that a Real Made in Missouri America Tool by a Real American Legend. Out to bring a pretty penny on the market. Maybe Wendell should Make and send one to all of his subscribers, with the Tractor man 44 Logo on painted John Deer Green, or maybe Massey Ferguson yellow. I sure would put it up on my Mantel
@@tractorman4461 I tipped mine your way as well! One of these days we will share our JO together, get to talking and make numerous pots of JO! Probably repeat this same thing in the afternoon! Later my Friend!
Anything to speed up the layout process !! I made my first one close to 40 years ago. Thanks for watching....you can see it put to use in this recent upload I think: th-cam.com/video/i2KFLZGbZwI/w-d-xo.html
Perfect tool Wendell, I recall we use a vernier at school to make marks on sheet metal or some wooden tool with a hard point sharp nail can you say on a ruler with a lock-nut to secure the length, obviously bought out items, thanks for sharing your home made one
Yes Jan, a lot of guys use the adjustable one like you describe. The name of the game when 'on the clock' is quickness and efficiency of movement. They all work fine though, it is just up to personal preference.
Hey man, no problem Stuart ! I hope it showed how simple it is to make. The key is the Stainless for holding a sharp point. But when it does dull, just trim it back another sixteenth or so and its new again.
Been thinking of making a compass/dividers myself. I don't do much layout but when I do I like the 1 and 4ft metal ruler's/straight edges and the scribe. Combo square is my favorite though!
I have a 4' drywall square I use quite a lot, but I like the 48'' circumference rule best. Plus I have another circumference rule thats a bit shorter and it is handy too for small fittings. I think its 18''. Everybody has their preferences though and its what you get used to.
You'd be surprised how many guys doing tin work will pick it up and use it incorrectly Tom. Its just gotta be kept straight to make the mark the correct distance from the edge. I have had at least a dozen requests to show what it is and how to make it in the comments on sheet metal videos.
Great Hack. The sheet metal scribe is an great tool. (Your sharp clean aviation snips won't stay that way if you cut a lot of stainless though) (Ask me how I know)
Wendell, how long have you owned that measure stick. You sure don't see those used much, the tape measure has taken over. I never see you use a tape, it's always that tape stick. Did you use that during your working years. Great job, take care and stay safe.
I've used folding rules on layout work since the mid-70's. I wear the brass ends off of them with the awl, then they are set aside. I use a tape on the jobsite measuring the job. But almost never for actual layout work. I also use the tape at different times though for different things. Like locating the taps in the top of the duct. Measure the next location from the 'S' on the last one hung, hook over the end and mark a 'V' with a majic marker off center on the duct in the direction the take off needs to be directed. See...??!! I use a majic marker too !! LOL
Necessity is the mother of invention, eh? Good job explaining that tool!
Quick, simple and functional....just like a fresh batch of cookies, but it lasts longer. LOL
Sometimes the coolest, handiest tools are the simplest tools. Thanks for showing us all how to make one, Wendell!
You are right Martin for sure. These 4 basic measurements are used in almost EVERY sheet metal fitting made by hand. It eliminates a time consuming process and just makes each job less physically cumbersome to lay out. Over the course of an entire job, the time saving is tangible.
Bonsoir Sir, I like that ( That's my story and I'm sticking to it !! ) LOL Great hand made scribe !!! Great trick too !!! You are very efficient Sir !!! Keep warm and Keep up your STEEL PICASSO WORK SIR CHEERS !!!
Thank you my friend. I hope your snow mountain is melting Dave !!
@@tractorman4461 Not all Sir !! It Was -16f last night 🥶 but I realy hope that it will melt slowly very slowly because if it does melt fast I will need to reactive my two canoes to get back at the base for my daily comute lol !!!
@@RCAFpolarexpress Hahahahaha....now THAT's a funny one Dave. But you are right, there will be a lot of water when everything melts. Maybe it will all end up at Niagara Falls !! But if you float over it in the canoe with Scotty and Ruby, make sure you all three are wearing your seat belts !!
@@tractorman4461 LOL !!!! with live vest !!! Cheers !!!
Got to go to the shop and make one!! Thanks for sharing 👍
Hopefully you have a couple small pieces of stainless steel to make them out of. The point will hold much longer with SS than galvanized material. Good luck Stephen. I have tons of layout vids up in the playlists if you are interested. Here's a sample: th-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html
Thank you for sharing!!! Forgot all about these until I saw one of your videos of you using them
One of our first projects we had to make in shop class and graded on. Sheet metal and welding back in 1987!! I wish I had my original, we even marked the fractions on them as well, can't remember how, If punched with stamps or scribed.. Anyway, thanks for sharing all your videos, I'm going to make another Sheet metal scribe for the toolbox
I like to cut 'em out of stainless because they stay crisp on the end much longer. Galvanized will do, but you've got to trim them often to keep a sharp tip. I'm glad it sparked a good memory for you Joseph. Thanks for watching.
Yes thank you! Makes marking ducts so much faster
Yes, very beneficial for layout. I use the circumference rule for 1 1/4'' and the 4' square for the 2'' measurement instead of measuring them all the time. Thanks for watching and adding a comment.
I made one up years ago out of 24 gauge stainless. 1/4" increments up to 2". I avoid using it on plasma burned fittings because they'll wear a groove in them. Thxs for the vids!
Yes, I can see that on the plasma cuts. A scribe of any design is better than measuring every time for sure. Thanks David for stopping by today.
Gonna make a handful of these! Great video!
Great !! I snag stainless steel scraps any time I can just for this purpose. I like the square instead of all of them in a line up and down a thinner piece. But its all just personal preference. When they dull, just snip off another little angle piece to expose a new tip !!
Man oh man, so much to learn when getting into fabrication. Thanks for showing this, Wendell!
Heck yeah David, no problem at all. I've had a good number of viewers on the sheet metal series of videos ask where it came from or how I made it or to just do a video highlighting it....so here it is !! LOL
Very clever man.. Keep it up. Thank You
Thank you Mickey. Its just something to keep from wasting time measuring the standard increments in from the edge of a sheet of metal for the various bends. There's a lot of its uses shown within this layout series in the playlists: th-cam.com/play/PLk72G9DTzZ1tqw8ST_xdUlPoy_O-SmuBx.html
great tool!
Just like the Missus...short, sweet and very much a good thing to work with !!
Back in the 70's, an old timer had taken me under his wing and showed me how to make one. Mine is made from .062 304 stainless and has served me well all these decades. It's a great idea Wendell!
Stainless is the answer. It sure holds the point over galvanized 8 days a week !! I like the homemade ones because they are so easy to resharpen if necessary.
T M 44 Tools! Made in U S A! Now how cool is that in these times of China tools? Thanks TM 44 for another workshop Vid! I’ll be tippin ya inna morn! DaveyJO
Well DaveyJO, it ain't much of a tool but it sure does serve a real purpose in the tin shop !! I'm on my second pot for the morning....and it's all been good so far. LOL....even tipped the first your way my friend.
Davey jo Weaver you sir are right that a Real Made in Missouri America Tool by a Real American Legend. Out to bring a pretty penny on the market.
Maybe Wendell should Make and send one to all of his subscribers, with the Tractor man 44 Logo on painted John Deer Green, or maybe Massey Ferguson yellow.
I sure would put it up on my Mantel
@@tractorman4461 I tipped mine your way as well! One of these days we will share our JO together, get to talking and make numerous pots of JO! Probably repeat this same thing in the afternoon! Later my Friend!
Great idea. Thanks mate
Anything to speed up the layout process !! I made my first one close to 40 years ago. Thanks for watching....you can see it put to use in this recent upload I think: th-cam.com/video/i2KFLZGbZwI/w-d-xo.html
Perfect tool Wendell, I recall we use a vernier at school to make marks on sheet metal or some wooden tool with a hard point sharp nail can you say on a ruler with a lock-nut to secure the length, obviously bought out items, thanks for sharing your home made one
Yes Jan, a lot of guys use the adjustable one like you describe. The name of the game when 'on the clock' is quickness and efficiency of movement. They all work fine though, it is just up to personal preference.
Thanks!!!
Hey man, no problem Stuart ! I hope it showed how simple it is to make. The key is the Stainless for holding a sharp point. But when it does dull, just trim it back another sixteenth or so and its new again.
Been thinking of making a compass/dividers myself. I don't do much layout but when I do I like the 1 and 4ft metal ruler's/straight edges and the scribe. Combo square is my favorite though!
I have a 4' drywall square I use quite a lot, but I like the 48'' circumference rule best. Plus I have another circumference rule thats a bit shorter and it is handy too for small fittings. I think its 18''. Everybody has their preferences though and its what you get used to.
amazing Thanks for showing this
No problem !! Glad to help out a fellow.
Good job and explanation how to use the tool take care buddy
You'd be surprised how many guys doing tin work will pick it up and use it incorrectly Tom. Its just gotta be kept straight to make the mark the correct distance from the edge. I have had at least a dozen requests to show what it is and how to make it in the comments on sheet metal videos.
Great Hack. The sheet metal scribe is an great tool. (Your sharp clean aviation snips won't stay that way if you cut a lot of stainless though) (Ask me how I know)
Hahahaha....you are soooo right about that Rick... You noticed that those were my old shop snips didn't ya...LOL
I got one I made in the sign shop I work at.
Yes, make what serves you best. And if its not the best change the design until it IS.
Wendell, how long have you owned that measure stick. You sure don't see those used much, the tape measure has taken over. I never see you use a tape, it's always that tape stick. Did you use that during your working years. Great job, take care and stay safe.
I've used folding rules on layout work since the mid-70's. I wear the brass ends off of them with the awl, then they are set aside. I use a tape on the jobsite measuring the job. But almost never for actual layout work. I also use the tape at different times though for different things. Like locating the taps in the top of the duct. Measure the next location from the 'S' on the last one hung, hook over the end and mark a 'V' with a majic marker off center on the duct in the direction the take off needs to be directed. See...??!! I use a majic marker too !! LOL
I noticed the same. A lot of measurements seem to be one stick length and it’s easy to hold or pick up. 👍
I liked the explanation but I don`t think I`m going to make one...CHEERS
Hahahahaha....well, if you ain't doing too much metal work its just a tool box filler.... LOL