Such a shame that this film did so poorly. These are some of the most interesting shoot outs and chase scenes I've seen. It's like a breath of fresh air from the fast paced and ridiculous chase scenes of today to see such a slow and meticulous one.
By this era, car chases were so routine, it took this kind of ingenuity to make a chase scene engaging again. Mostly, there's just a trend towards making them bigger and louder, but it's this kind of writing and staging that really makes car chases exciting again.
+Jason Maurer Only movie I have seen recently that comes close to matching the level or tactical movement and strategy is the final shootout scene from "The Veteran." Nothing else had come close!
Heat is overrated. Not realistic at all. Their car wouldve had bullet fragments ricocheting through all of them. There was like 90 fully armed men opening up on them in an unarmored vehicle.
I fucking LOVE the attention to detail in this movie. The simple fact that when Driggs and his partner pop up to shoot back, Driggs is aiming the wrong way before he realizes that they both went into the car, then re-adjusts his aim.
Its little things like that which made this movie great. Later in the movie when they are fighting the bag men, Mr. Longbaugh takes a round to the right hand and jumps over a concrete barricade for cover and Mr. Parker turns to the threat and provides covering fire.
It's a kidnap film, a girl gets paid as a surrogate for a gangster family, and Ryan Phillipe and Benicio Del Toro kidnap her for a ransom. It's a thoroughly enjoyable piece
This sequence was actually posted as Del Toro's idea. The script only said that a car chase would occur here, but Del Toro saw something like this on an episode of Cops, so he suggested it to McQuarrie and they made it happen.
This movie has some of the most realistic tactics when it comes to the shootouts and gun handling procedure .. Whoever the training adviser was new his stuff.
The one thing that always bothered me with the final shootout is when Del Toro is firing his Galil on full auto in a perfectly straight line. In a movie that featured realistic shootouts/gun handling, I'm surprised they would make such a cliched mistake.
Me too. It definitely seemed to be his way of saying "Game's over. We're better than you; we won." Very cool movie that I did not appreciate at 17 but like a lot more now.
@bubarini3 I've always interpreted that as a display of dominance. By sparing their lives, he's making the statement that he's not afraid of them. Even humiliating them. Awesome that someone FINALLY posted this scene.
I don't think Parker put away the gun because he was showing his bravado, or telling them they had lost. I think it's because he heard the sirens, and had he shot and killed them,t hey'd have had a lot more than Chidduck pursuing them.
@@xXSPADEGG Good point but the cops have no clue what the perps look like in either party. The two gunmen easily and innocently drove past the police instead of finishing their current fight and inadvertently starting another (much longer) one.
In my opinion I believe the scene where Parker tells Longbaugh to wait a second while he goes over to Diggs and aims his gun at him while he and his partner are still buckled up in the wrecked car does a couple of things to make the situation a lot more believable. The main reason, in my opinion was a tactical one. Before Parker heard the police sirens and left them both, I believe that he was going to shoot them both to avoid them following them and re-taking the girl which would of obviously made the storyline practically pointless from that point on. However, when he heard the police sirens, he stopped and got back into the truck because he realised that if he would've shot them the police would be looking for murderers, so the police's search efforts for them would be huge and if caught would likely face the death penalty if they were taken alive of course but by leaving them to leaving them to deal with the police, he thought that this would be the last the pair saw of the bodyguards, so by leaving them not only did they increase their chances but also avoided certain death. I'd like to ask a question though, are they ever alluded to be ex special forces or at least some kind of ex armed forces? I know there tactics, room clearing procedures and gun handling skills are hallmarks but I was wondering if there's ever any sort of off hand comment or something along those lines? I don't remember as all. :)
I'm a little late with this reply but in regards to you saying that the police would have been looking for murderers.. They took out two body guards before the chase started.. also an innocent lady was caught in the crossfire.
Longbaugh did, when he was drinking coffee with Bagman.. they were both talking about Some military deployments, and different types of people they'd ran in too. Edit: And Longbaugh saying he was a buttonman/bagman himself.. job mostly suited for ex military or mercs.
Robert leroyparker and Harry longbaugh were also known as,: butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. So this may also be saying they were highly skilled gunmen, criminals for their time.
McQuarrie has done something here that hadn’t been done in 20 years. He brought something unique to the classic action trope of car chases by giving us the first low speed pursuit while maintaining edge-of-the-seat intensity. Such a shame McQuarrie so vehemently distances himself from the movie to the point of outright disowning it as if a preemptive stance if people ever want to “cancel” him for opening scene with Sarah Silverman (she, too, absolutely does not talk about her role) and the Ryan Phillipe monologue about “faggots and nomads.”
I know Del Toro said he got the idea from an episode of Cops, but I'm actually wondering now if it isn't the TV movie In the Line of Duty: The FBI murders. There is clip of the shootout and there are similarities with the shooters driving oddly slow and then a gun battle breaking out
There are other similarities but the music at 2.05 was a nice nod to the chase scene in the first Terminator. (where Sarah bites John's hand). WotG is a fantastic film but it forgot to be efficient. This is what made the first Terminator so rewatchable. This efficiency difference is is perhaps the largest standout in quality between T1 and T2 - if one has to choose a desert island Terminator film.
They already covered that part. You can see bodies in the parking lot at 0:15. I don't think it was intentional, but Parker & Longbaugh didn't strike me as the type who would go out of their way to avoid collateral damage either.
Can someone more acquainted with tactical matters tell me something? I understand why the bodyguards don't soot at the car body (because the principle is inside and at that distance a pistol round can't be aimed with that accuracy), but why don't they aim for the tyres? It's not likely they'd miss so badly they'd hit the girl, they'd make their getaay car useless, which would probably force the kidnappers to simply abandon the attempt.
A type of problem where the weapon doesn't eject the shell properly and it gets stuck in the action of the weapon until its cleared. (if you are still curious after 7 years lol)
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I love how Del Toro casually walks away after emptying his shotgun.
Everyone does!!!!
Such a shame that this film did so poorly. These are some of the most interesting shoot outs and chase scenes I've seen. It's like a breath of fresh air from the fast paced and ridiculous chase scenes of today to see such a slow and meticulous one.
***** Agreed, that's what makes it even more special imo
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the audience wasn't being spoon-fed the plot and details so durr.
By this era, car chases were so routine, it took this kind of ingenuity to make a chase scene engaging again. Mostly, there's just a trend towards making them bigger and louder, but it's this kind of writing and staging that really makes car chases exciting again.
Best tactical gun movie ever IMO. The dialog was genius and acting was great. All time favorite movie.
They need to make more movies with this level of technicality.
+Jason Maurer Only movie I have seen recently that comes close to matching the level or tactical movement and strategy is the final shootout scene from "The Veteran." Nothing else had come close!
My thoughts exactly! Wish a second would be made!
Don't forget the exfil in 'Heat'!
Heat is overrated. Not realistic at all. Their car wouldve had bullet fragments ricocheting through all of them. There was like 90 fully armed men opening up on them in an unarmored vehicle.
0:16 I love how he just shook that pump action cause the shell didn't want to come out...small details like that really gets me
I fucking LOVE the attention to detail in this movie. The simple fact that when Driggs and his partner pop up to shoot back, Driggs is aiming the wrong way before he realizes that they both went into the car, then re-adjusts his aim.
Not the wrong way, he was covering that sector. It was where Del Toro had last engaged them from too.
@@mikeg2092 ok
@@TheJubbert just noticed your picture. Max Payne deserves a remaster.
You know its a reaslistic shootout when they include the hero's gun jamming and him clearing it! 00:15
From what i read that was unscripted. The gun jammed and Benicio improvised a clear so smoothly that it was left in the final cut.
Yeah it’s really cool but as much as I love mr Longbaugh I wouldn’t say he’s a hero
@@Haselgrove1 I'm sure he meant protagonist
They're really not heroes, they just kidnapped a pregnant woman and shot a bunch of bystanders
The irony of how a slow car chase was better than any high speed Hollywood movie equivalent.
0:28 I love them covering both angles before the other guy turns to the actual threat.
Its little things like that which made this movie great. Later in the movie when they are fighting the bag men, Mr. Longbaugh takes a round to the right hand and jumps over a concrete barricade for cover and Mr. Parker turns to the threat and provides covering fire.
The dead bodies of people caught in the crossfire are pretty fucking grim...
one of the most underrated action movies of all time.
The emotion and detail in this movie is fucking crazy.
I mean Film.
can you tell me what this movie is about :)
It's a kidnap film, a girl gets paid as a surrogate for a gangster family, and Ryan Phillipe and Benicio Del Toro kidnap her for a ransom. It's a thoroughly enjoyable piece
This sequence was actually posted as Del Toro's idea. The script only said that a car chase would occur here, but Del Toro saw something like this on an episode of Cops, so he suggested it to McQuarrie and they made it happen.
Can I just say: as a professional fuckwit, this is the best chase I have ever seen.
This movie has some of the most realistic tactics when it comes to the shootouts and gun handling procedure .. Whoever the training adviser was new his stuff.
milktheuniverse ...It was Christopher McQuaries brother. A Navy Seal that coordinated the shootouts. FR.
The one thing that always bothered me with the final shootout is when Del Toro is firing his Galil on full auto in a perfectly straight line. In a movie that featured realistic shootouts/gun handling, I'm surprised they would make such a cliched mistake.
@@anxioussamurai9017 watch his finger he was shooting semi but just jamming it on the trigger
@@anxioussamurai9017 Wasn't full auto. Did seem like it thou, on first watch.
I believe del toro's character was bump-firing. Could be the semi-auto imitating full-auto spray.
Just my opinion.
This entire movie was unusual and one of my favorites of all time. The climax was amazing.
There's always free cheese in a mousetrap.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 i think a plan is just a list of things that don't happen
@@leetheflea4096 Until that day.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 rip james caan!
He was counting coup, more or less. Letting them know he could've killed them and leaving them with the knowledge. It's a warrior thing.
Exactly.
Yeah I wondered at that being a thing too.
Apparently this scene is adapted from something del Toro saw on "Cops" and told McQuarrie about it.
The reason he doesn't shoot them is like the girls says they don't care about dying just loosing. He showing them that they lost.
between 0:15 and 0:20, Benicio fixed the stovepipe on his shotgun
Good to see that Longbaugh was already Covid-conscious
Highly underrated movie filled with top-notch actors/actresses and acting. One of my all time favorites. Held the “#1” slot on my DVR for years
such a great film. Great tactics.
Me too. It definitely seemed to be his way of saying "Game's over. We're better than you; we won." Very cool movie that I did not appreciate at 17 but like a lot more now.
neat how del toro actually clears the jam on his 870. most movies just cut around that stuff
@bubarini3
I've always interpreted that as a display of dominance. By sparing their lives, he's making the statement that he's not afraid of them. Even humiliating them.
Awesome that someone FINALLY posted this scene.
Great example of the "Tactical Ghostride"
Cool little road movie.
I don't think Parker put away the gun because he was showing his bravado, or telling them they had lost. I think it's because he heard the sirens, and had he shot and killed them,t hey'd have had a lot more than Chidduck pursuing them.
They already killed two guards in the initial shootout
@@xXSPADEGG Good point but the cops have no clue what the perps look like in either party. The two gunmen easily and innocently drove past the police instead of finishing their current fight and inadvertently starting another (much longer) one.
@@aydon1276 Personally I think Parker did it to purposely hold the two guards down so they'd be the ones explaining things to the cops.
@@xXSPADEGG After about my 3rd time watching this, this is the conclusion I came to as well.
In my opinion I believe the scene where Parker tells Longbaugh to wait a second while he goes over to Diggs and aims his gun at him while he and his partner are still buckled up in the wrecked car does a couple of things to make the situation a lot more believable. The main reason, in my opinion was a tactical one. Before Parker heard the police sirens and left them both, I believe that he was going to shoot them both to avoid them following them and re-taking the girl which would of obviously made the storyline practically pointless from that point on.
However, when he heard the police sirens, he stopped and got back into the truck because he realised that if he would've shot them the police would be looking for murderers, so the police's search efforts for them would be huge and if caught would likely face the death penalty if they were taken alive of course but by leaving them to leaving them to deal with the police, he thought that this would be the last the pair saw of the bodyguards, so by leaving them not only did they increase their chances but also avoided certain death.
I'd like to ask a question though, are they ever alluded to be ex special forces or at least some kind of ex armed forces? I know there tactics, room clearing procedures and gun handling skills are hallmarks but I was wondering if there's ever any sort of off hand comment or something along those lines? I don't remember as all. :)
they had a navy seal advising them
I'm a little late with this reply but in regards to you saying that the police would have been looking for murderers.. They took out two body guards before the chase started.. also an innocent lady was caught in the crossfire.
Longbaugh did, when he was drinking coffee with Bagman.. they were both talking about Some military deployments, and different types of people they'd ran in too.
Edit: And Longbaugh saying he was a buttonman/bagman himself.. job mostly suited for ex military or mercs.
He had the drop on them well before sirens were heard. It was a power play on his part.
Robert leroyparker and Harry longbaugh were also known as,: butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid. So this may also be saying they were highly skilled gunmen, criminals for their time.
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McQuarrie has done something here that hadn’t been done in 20 years. He brought something unique to the classic action trope of car chases by giving us the first low speed pursuit while maintaining edge-of-the-seat intensity.
Such a shame McQuarrie so vehemently distances himself from the movie to the point of outright disowning it as if a preemptive stance if people ever want to “cancel” him for opening scene with Sarah Silverman (she, too, absolutely does not talk about her role) and the Ryan Phillipe monologue about “faggots and nomads.”
No one makes mention how Ryan closes one eye..points gun point blank range and doesn't pull the trigger. Damn..that was cool to me!
this is a damn cool scene
Parker and Longbaugh have to have been former military, possible SF.
WOULD LOVE TO SEE A PREQUEL that shows more of their background.
Awesome scene hands down
2:13 I love the subtle castanets!
i remember watching this movie when i was kid. i finally know the name of this movie
I know Del Toro said he got the idea from an episode of Cops, but I'm actually wondering now if it isn't the TV movie In the Line of Duty: The FBI murders. There is clip of the shootout and there are similarities with the shooters driving oddly slow and then a gun battle breaking out
and puts an extra shell in the ejection port when he loads the weapon in the car making it have 7+1 shells in it.
These are actually 9mm pistols. So it's 9 or 10+1 😉
This is the most underrated film ever made.
3:45 - those laundry workers were pretty funny! Especially that red-head in the back.
I love this film it was something else exalant thanks
I love that mariner shotgun
vastly underrated film. ruthless men on both sides.
There are other similarities but the music at 2.05 was a nice nod to the chase scene in the first Terminator. (where Sarah bites John's hand). WotG is a fantastic film but it forgot to be efficient. This is what made the first Terminator so rewatchable. This efficiency difference is is perhaps the largest standout in quality between T1 and T2 - if one has to choose a desert island Terminator film.
Of course that's what it means brosef, she says they are more afraid of losing, he's just reminding them they lost.
They already covered that part. You can see bodies in the parking lot at 0:15.
I don't think it was intentional, but Parker & Longbaugh didn't strike me as the type who would go out of their way to avoid collateral damage either.
@ 3:56: Text Book successful Hasty Ambush and I realize this is fiction. Major League attention to detail and directing.
ScoutSniper1990 the directors brother was the technical adviser. he was a navy seal..
Sean Ryan . I just told someone that very thing. I had read about it.👌
Hands down McQuarries best film.
that moment when you realize that they both put their seat-belts on at the same time 3:13
brilliant
3:32 OMG they start to do the Flinstones thinggy
Something
The writer/director's brother was a USNavy Seal and collaborator/ coordinator for this film.
Why didn't they run the other way instead of waiting for the cops to arrest them?
They're private security, not outlaws. They'd be found and questioned as they were known to some degree at the doctors where the gunfight started.
0:50 that pig nose 240sx is a weird sight after seeing so many of them modified and riced out.
Good tactical. But he should have capped his opponents.
But I guess that would have killed the storyline.
So in the end who was going after who?
Can someone more acquainted with tactical matters tell me something? I understand why the bodyguards don't soot at the car body (because the principle is inside and at that distance a pistol round can't be aimed with that accuracy), but why don't they aim for the tyres? It's not likely they'd miss so badly they'd hit the girl, they'd make their getaay car useless, which would probably force the kidnappers to simply abandon the attempt.
They see them rollin'. They hatin'.
Good tactical. But he should have capped his opponents.
airbag didn't deploy?
Formidable Friend if the seatbelts aren’t on yeah
It's Mexico
what do you mean by stovepiping.
A type of problem where the weapon doesn't eject the shell properly and it gets stuck in the action of the weapon until its cleared. (if you are still curious after 7 years lol)
damn ya all still alive wtf
Was it forbidden to shoot the tire then?
Kind of risky for him to just walk up on them in the car at the end. They could have easily shot him.
He was counting coup, more or less. Letting them know he could've killed them and leaving them with the knowledge. It's a warrior thing.