Haier HLP21N Clothes Washer Review for Off-Grid
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- A great find from Craigslist. A washer and dryer set that I purchased for just $50.00. My thoughts and assessments regarding these two units. I think the washer is great for tiny homes and some larger bug out locations.
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As always, a complete practical solar energy analysis. Numbers don't lie unless you fudge them... or don't use a Kill a Watt Meter. Thanks Steve. You are one awesome dude for helping us newbies get the edge on using solar power.
Thanks for the detailed video! I wish more people would show us power consumption the way you did.
Keith Ryant I will do it this summer
Miss my Haeir!!! Could not take with me on a long distance move. Am in the market for a washer and dryer. This one does not do full size comforters or blankets, but I have discovered Fisher&Paykel makes front loaders, sizes larger enough to do my bedding. This company owned by Haier and so far excellent reviews. The newer market frontloaders people forget to take out the transport bolts, or find the 'catcher' to clean the scum or take a five minute wipe from inside the drum and window...paid about $250 online brand new for my machine about ten years ago. And the same machine you have is currently about the same price. Excellent purchase!!
Steve, thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very valuable information and very much appreciated. Doug
Good to know information. I ordered the newer version of the washer a few days ago. This has me rethinking my drying situation.
Thanks Steve. I live in Nigeria and have been living off the grid for the past 18 months. ive never regretted the decision. I have 4kwts in panels and 410 amp hrs in batteries. Thankfully God has blessed us with the sun. Keep up the good work. Regards and stay blessed
Thank you sir. Anyone who gives God glory has God's hand on his ways. Be blessed also my brother.
I live in Nigeria but the cost of off grid is too high,were can I get use battery that is still usable
This was really interesting, especially tracking with the Kill A Watt. Thanks for a great video.
Awesome find Steve! Thanks for the very detailed video and thank you for showing the kill-a-watt numbers! 50 watts for a load is awesome! I'll be keeping an eye out for a deal on one of those washers.
Hey Steve I'm sure glad you make the videos. I love the content as to it applies to my life. I'm kinda sick with stage 4 cancer and currently working on a solar project so me and my wife have power If I become more sick. I really liked the solar videos but my favorite was about the solar dump load water heater. Can't wait for more videos. Thanks
Thanks for the detail specs and the review. We have been looking for a small unit like this for the cabin.
+The Cedar Workshop We have a cabin at Lake Michigan and use ours on the road in the camper, then use it at the cabin. It's a great little washing machine. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for this very useful off grid information on the kw draw of the unit. This info tells me I can use this washer with solar power on an RV. Thank you!!
I am still very happy with that little washer, and it works very well even on a small scale system.
My friend got one of these for his apartment, it's his favorite thing!
Thank you for the great review - cheers from Canada
M. Corège thank you!
I have this - it is a beast - I LOVE it!!!!
Hello Steve I happened to stumble on your channel, and I'm glad I did. I always enjoy and appreciate people who have a passion for green power and helping others. Its the way its suppose to be. Anyway its hard to be patient with myself in regards to solar and how to do it correctly. And doing it where I get the best bang for my buck. Any suggestions for learning in baby steps would be appreciated, this is a new adventure for me. I will be picking thru your vids for knowledge. Thanks Pete in Wisconsin
Hello Pete. I have several playlists categorized into topics of interest. My series of primers for solar might be a good place to start; You can find that playlist here:
th-cam.com/play/PL881BEC0EFE5870D4.html
Good find! And neat little washer. Something to think about when needing to do a few small loads. Excellent review, also.
ChrisDIYerOklahoma Thanks Chris!
$50?? Just wow...we purchased the new models of both...love them...and they were a bit more than your great deal!🌷🚍. Subscribed!👍
Good video! I learned quite a bit, thanks.
of all the things considered a necessity for on or off grid applications, a washer such as this one hits the spot.
water use is surpriseingly low, power consumption seems very good.
emma and i will start the serch for one, thanks for shareing your experiance .God bless
😊 Have the same one and I love it works great 👍
Thanks Steve. The washer would fit in our toy hauler nicely.
Looks cool
That's a great review. Washer is a no-brainer for traveling. The dryer could be fine if you had a lot of sun, or a lot of batteries for your inverter. But I guess if you have a lot of sun then drying on a clothes line would work and use 0 KWH.
Thanks for the review. I've had that model for a year and love it. Using it in my travel trailer that I live in full time. I also found mine on Craig's List. You got a fantastic deal on yours! I just hang my clothes up to dry, but if I was off grid and using solar panels, then it wouldn't matter if I used the dryer since I wouldn't be paying an electric bill. : )
Thank you for your comment - I hope you don't live somewhere very cold!
Steve Robertson It gets cold here in the winter, and sometimes snows but it's short lived.
That's probably the ONLY thing I miss about New Mexico.
Great Video Steve!!!
Thank you kindly!
awsome thank you for the information.
Both for $50 but if you want to use solar then get a line 😁 Great video I just bought that very washer used for $15 👍
Thanks for sharing!
great bid, thanks
Thanks good video
So interesting... we just bought a Haier washer and it's so energy efficient I'm shocked
+Mark Osborne Good stuff!
Nice find Buddy! Even the dryer is not that much consumption compared to my dryer..
The size is really what surprise me.. Usually, those unusual items are pricier rhan the commun items.. 50 bucks for both is a tresor...
Yes it was a great find, al. Laundry is done in the camper now so I don't have to find a laundry service when we're on the road. It runs well on a small inverter.
Steve Robertson Practicallity is the sister of necessity and both are good for helping the ones that spend little time in thinkering solutions.. Thanks Steve
thanks, I have a washer and dryer that I bought second hand. but I put in a hybrid water heater that has a big footprint and I have no room for the dryer.
this washer would be enough for me (and perhaps a lady friend if I'm lucky)
about $200 new
interesting video steve, please keep' m coming as i will be watching!!!!! also, i have a great project coming in the spring i will need your expertise on if your willing
+universalappealmusic You got it brother - I'll help any way I can. If you're between Colorado and Michigan, I might even come help in person!
you got a great deal just the washer on craiglist no less then a 100 dollars
I like how you review all these different things like air conditioners and washer machine. do you know of any Hvac systems that don't require 208/230v ac to heat and cool a full size home off grid
+David Bolletta I have a heatpump that I love, made by Senville and is SEER 21 rated. When it first starts, it pulls as much as 1200 watts, but as it reaches the temperature you have set, it throttles back to about 200 watts to maintain the temperature. It's both a great air conditioner and heater. In winter, I load an armload of firewood into the woodstove to get the chill out of the house, and after the sun comes up, my Senville keeps the house toasty from solar electricity. At night before we retire, I load another armload of wood into the woodstove to keep the house warm at night. In the summer, it cools the house down nicely.
I bought it here: www.ebay.com/itm/Ductless-Air-Conditioner-Mini-Split-Heat-Pump-18000-BTU-Energy-Star-21-SEER-/191314675810?hash=item2c8b3e4862:g:KjIAAOSwyQtVntxq
So in other words, use the washer to wash and hang-dry the clothes. Thanks for a very simple, no-nonsense video. If I may make a suggestion, use it for a year and then do a follow-up video talking about how it runs after that time. I know you bought it used, but some data is better than none.
I will try to do another video about it soon. But I can say right now that I'm as happy with it now as the day I purchased it.
I bought my Haier in 2005 and it still works perfectly in 2017. Not for off-grid, just for cost savings as my laundromat adds up to about $10-15 to do a few loads of laundry. Same size as Steve's, just doesn't have the digital lights. Model XQBM22-C. I think they are an amazing company for portable washers. I also find that the spin cycle really does an amazing job of removing most of the moisture from the clothes, do they can easily dry fast just by hanging. One tip, use very little amounts of detergent, or else you be running the rinse cycle more than once to get the suds out. For a full load I find about a 2 tablespoon worth is fine. Also, don't overload. Easier to just do 2-3 smaller loads if you have lots of laundry.
Ok thank you
thanks i have been wondering what the dryer takes for my batteries,its alot but in the middle of winter with my back up diesel genni it wold not be bad,its do able with my batery grid so thanks dude!
You're welcome and I'm glad you got some useful info here.
Excellent tutorial, learned a lot about watts, kilowatts and kilowatt hours. You have the skills of a teacher, taking complicated concepts for 'some of us, breaking them down, repackaging them into mental & tangible understanding. Your use of visual examples and images would get you A+s in Education Methods Coursework.
+Eliza beth Gosh, I consider that a very high compliment. Thank you!
I actually viewed a couple of your other videos and 'though 'my brain didn't 'catch on to some of the higher concepts you were discussing, from the comments others made, it was clear individuals with high mathematical skills and high interest in 'off-the-grid living were. Even 'watching those videos, I was still impressed with your ability to communicate in a captivating, charismatic manner. That I'm looking for a compact laundry system for my "new" tiny apartment 'was how I 'bumped into your "Off-Grid Living".
Today, I reviewed some TH-cam Videos on making money through TH-cam and was amazed at some of the people 'who are making money: 'they're so boring or ridiculous.
I think if you're doing that and people bump into you by way of one of your off-shoot videos, like the one on Haier Compact Clothes Washer, you'll pick up viewers 'simply because you're interesting and 'have that 'charismatic component to your delivery.
As you've probably guessed I 'was a teacher (and, once a teacher, always a teacher); but then I gravitated toward MH 'when I became a single parent (ever wonder why 'teacher's kids become mass murderers??? It's 'cause the parents pay more attention to 'their students--just to keep their jobs--than to their own kids--I didn't want to do that)--and, 'tend to zero in on 'talent, skill(s), or budding aptitude and 'have this impetus to 'encourage.
I think your videos are going to expend and your viewership is going to increase.
+Eliza beth I did guess you were a teacher, and you have humbled me with your kind words that came at a good time. Thanks again, and welcome to us off-gridders' community if you're inclined to learn about it.
Very inclined and have been interested for years. I live in a "green high rise" and do everything I can to reduce my electrical use, including unplugging everything after use and switching the current off at the fuse box for lights and utilities I'm not using. I'm currently working, obviously, on how to reduce my imprint in the area of laundry communicating what I learn to others who live here. Many have already started unplugging any electrical device when not in use and now they're intently interested in how to do their laundry, where it costs upwards of $30.00 & $40.00 to do laundry on site (a big money maker for company).
So, I have a question, our heating & cooling system is regulated by two sources, one, a ceiling unit in the bedroom and a very complicated computerized thermostat (and fan unit) in the living area which extends to the kitchen. I live 'boxed in-between other units who like their apartments warm to extremely warm; I tend to prefer layering 'rather than keeping my actual temperature 'what others would consider comfortable. When I'm not using the heat or cooling, I switch the fuse off--it uncomplicates the computerized system in the living area--
and, for the most part I keep my apt. regulated by heat rising from the floors below and the people who live on either side of me. I've only used the oven once (Thanksgiving) a purchased an extremely energy efficient toaster over, which I use maybe 3xs a week and utilize the microwave for other types of cooking.
When I breakdown my electrical bill, I'm only spending about $10.00/mo on actual electrical use, the rest of my bill comprises fees and taxes. In November, just from one day of using the oven, my actual electrical use jumped $15.00.
So, my question for you is, does turning my heat/cooling (and dishwasher) off at the fuse box (when not in use) reduce wattage?
BTW, neighbors are flabbergasted by my low electrical bills. I tell them to layer, unplug items not in use, turn off those outlets that have little switches on them (and switch them back on only when they use the actual outlet-- 'because they draw electricity 'by just being on).
I grew up in the country, so city living has been a huge adjustment for me; but 'even in an apartment it's amazing how frugally one live. Even though my father was a dentist and could have afforded 'to pay for everything out of pocket, he, having grown up in the foothills of VT, always chose to 'everything the 'hard way (as I called it as a kid), we got our water from one of those underground springs (delicious), retained it in huge covered cow's water trough, wood heated our house and drew it into the house through gravity.
I thought I hated it as a child because it made 'extra work, chopping and stacking wood, diy porches and cement slabs, flower beds, gardens (organic way back then, which was more work than a regular garden)--and, I always called him "eccentric" 'growing up, but growing up with my father's diy and live off the grid life-style (as much as possible) 'has served me well in my life, a single parent and wage earner, I had to cut corners at every bend--and, the 'resourcefulness it taught me, 'turned me into a diy mom.
My kids (girls), of course, 'were embarrassed by their mom, but they're now in the 30's and each one, though very well off, 'cut corners, watch their electrical use and employ diy strategies where possible to cut down on their carbon foot print.
Despite 'where I live, I find it a challenge and rewarding 'to live mindfully of how I'm personally impacting the environment--and, I hate throwing my money away on corporations who have legislated predatory methods of extracting our money.
+Eliza beth turning your appliances off at the fuse box will definitely keep them from drawing any electricity, but most modern day appliances use little to no phantom (or quiescent) electricity. I have a heat pump in my home that is computerized - very efficient. But when the outdoor temperature drops below about 20 degrees, it turns on a strip heater in the compressor that draws about 200 watts, so I just installed a wall switch. Now I can turn it off completely when it's not in use.
If you bill runs less than $10.00 per month before sales, ACA, carbon, and other taxes they can think of, I would say you are the most frugal city dweller I know! You have my respect and you should be very proud for your lifestyle. There are few people who are willing to do what you do.
Cheers!
I have a full size LG W/D IN ONE UNIT THE most it use is 1,300w but take almost 4 hr.
You have a good night
Great review. I am looking at different models. All seem just a bit too big. I like that this one is smaller. Since you have used it and put it into a vehicle. do you think it's small enough to go into either the back seat of a car or trunk for transport? I currently drive a Toyota Corolla. I would need to be able to move one around if I had to.
+April Baker It would fit, but the pump at the bottom retains water. If you put it in the back seat of your car, I would caution you about that water leaking out when you lay it into the back seat.
Does the interior tub have sharp pins jutting through the holes. Is this normal for all portable washers. I purchased another brand and got cut when I put my hand inside. Now looking at other brands. Worried for my clothes. No one seems to talk about pins.
+RoseJordie PhillipsMorrissey Please forgive my tardy response! I did not see your post until just now. I have not noticed any pins or sharp protrusions at all inside my washer's tub.
Thanks for reviewing! Can you fit 1 comforter in the washer?
I wouldn't recommend it. It is pretty small.
Hey pal I'm in a place with really, really old wiring (1916). I have a 30 amp fuse so I need an energy solution here. Do you think I could run this thing on that with a fridge on the circuit! Thanks for the video!
Yes you could run that washer and a fridge easily on that circuit. Add in a vacuum cleaner and a toaster and you'll blow the fuse.
This is a great video, very helpful and thorough. I just scored this washer for free and I’m really excited about it. Are you still using yours?
Kenia Perez-Correa We sold ours along with a little travel trailer we used it in. But the last I heard the owner still loves it!
Do you find that your clothes or towels are tangled up at the end of the wash making them hard to remove from the washer? I am thinking of purchasing one as I cannot use my Aptartment common laundry due to the fragranced smells in the machines. Thank you.
+Deborah Anne Most washers have a center agitator that goes up the center of the wash tub. This model doesn't have that. So I think the combination of no center agitator with smaller loads pretty much eliminated that problem. I haven't had my clothes get tangled at all - except maybe a belt from a robe or something that's very long like that. As you can see, it doesn't take much space either. I continue to be very pleased with mine!
How many aps is it?
Very cool I love this kind of off grid stuff. May God Bless You And Everyone That Believe In Him In The Name of Jesus Christ.Amen.
I Hope Your Still Doing Your Thing Out There. Im out in a small city / town of Rainier Washington.
Hello Eric. Yes I’m still doing my thing out here. Making our best life!
Awesome! Txs
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How many watts and amps does this dryer have?
what does this dryer measure in inches?
I wonder if this model is the same as the 141E
The dryer averages 1300 watts over it's cycle. I don't remember the exact size of that dryer, but approximately 24" tall by 20 inches wide by 14 inches deep.
Thank you for your comments on the washer Steve, does the attachment to the kitchen or bathroom tap work with an adapter for the tap that is used for a portable dishwasher to be used?
+Deborah Anne You're very welcome! I bought mine used so there were no adapters with it, and I don't know if a new one comes with any adapters. It has a standard hose that screws onto a faucet. I purchased an adapter at the hardware store, and I apologize I can't remember what I paid for it. It is an adapter that will fit various faucet types.
Thank you for your reply. I am buying my used as well. So if I understand you correctly, the kitchen sink needs to be about to screw onto the faucet or does it also have the option of pulling the hose attachment down and it pops up to secure to the faucet?
+Deborah Anne The adapter replaces the aerator in your kitchen (or bathroom) faucet, so when you run the faucet, the water just runs out without that nice aeration we're used to. The hose then just screws onto the adapter. When you leave your apartment, simply remove the adapter and put the aerator back in. No one will ever know you were there. Although not the most graceful video ever, here's a fellow that shows what the adapter looks like: th-cam.com/video/0ZIt3etY9Zs/w-d-xo.html
+Deborah Anne I will say that one VERY rare issue I have had is the drain hose falling out of the sink. I would suggest finding a large rubber band or bungee cord to maybe hold the drain hose to the sink. I'm sure you can figure out something simple to make it a little more secure, but I did want to make you aware of it to help prevent a mopping job one day.
Thanks Steve, I saw where someone actually put about one inch of the drain hose down the sink, I am not sure if this is a solution , I will try one time and see how that works. I also saw where, they must be the newer models, come with a gooseneck that the drain hose in slipped into and this hangs over the sink ledge to keep it secure. I may check a hardware store to see about a gooseneck to use.
Hey Steve,
I am trying to hook my Haier Washing machine up to use again! I replaced my hose on the machine-new hose , but the water is coming out of the machine from the bottom. I am assuming that something is not hooked up properly under the bottom of the machine please give me some advice. I have attempted to turn machine upside down and a black rubber part is not hooked up right-help me out please.
Without me physically being there, I doubt there's much I can do for you. At this point I would suggest calling on someone in your church family with some general skills. Aside from that, paying someone to reattach the part is the only other option. Are you located in Colorado?
Robin, I JUST NOW saw your message! I am sorry I am just now replying. Have you worked things out? Do you need help my friend?
Oops - never mind I saw I did reply to it. LOL
i really wish somebody would make , or if they do somebody please tell me ... but a washer like the old days that would run off a 3hp briggs would be awesome ..... thanks for the info , i think ill get one
I'm sure if someone comes along and reads your post that knows, they'll let us both know about a gas powered washer. I know about them, but I've never even seen one.
How many gallons of water does the wash machine utilize
It uses 5-15 gallons of water per wash, depending on the load size. A front load washer is still a bit more efficient.
I live off-grid. Have plenty of juice to run anything (2000 watt array), however, no well. How much water does it use on a cycle? :) - Cloud
It depends on the size of load but my guess is total 7.5 gallons for a full load.
Steve Robertson Thanks! :)
How do I drain the stored water inside it? I have been using this for 2 years now and it's heavier to move around. It sounds like there's water inside it not in the place where we put clothes in, that part gets drained. But water is in inside the machine and I don't know how to take it out. It's making moving the machine around really hard. Can anyone please help? Thank you
The only place in the washer that water isn't completely pumped out is the pump housing itself. That would hold perhaps a pint to a quart of water. The washer is pretty heavy by itself, and if there is any water still in the tub, you could let the drain hose down all the way to the ground while tilting the washer to let out any remaining water. Unless your washer is stored in a place where it could freeze, it should never be a problem.
How loud is this machine during the wash and dry cycle? I bought a Giantex; it is incredibly loud during the wash cycle.
Since I don't know how loud a Giantex is, I don't really have a baseline to work with you from. But I can say that's it's not quite as loud as a full size upright washer, and maybe slightly louder than a full size front load washer.
Check the bearing they shouldnr be that loud. If you buy a cheap campermat for a few dollars you can site the washer on it and reduce the vibration no end.
Hi, I know it's been a few years since you posted these but I'm still hoping I can gain some insights. I see you turned the faucet on in this video even before you turned on the machine. Is the water running at this time? If so where? The problem with my machine is that when I turn on the faucet, the water will try to flow into the machine even though the machine stops accepting water in the non-fill cycles. I don't know if the problem is with my machine for not being able to control the on/off flow of water from the faucet or if my faucet should not be feeding water during non-fill cycles.
Christine Li hello Christine. I believe that the problem is with the valve in your washer. It is probably stuck open so it can't turn off. I don't think it should be a costly repair.
So is the water running into your machine when it's turned off?
Christine Li No.
Hmm, that's interesting. Then is water still running from the faucet? If so, where is it going if not into the machine? I'm just trying to figure out if the machine is supposed to be controlling the on/off of the faucet once you turn the faucet on.
Christine Li the water faucet can be left on. The washer turns the water on and off for itself as required.
How do you like the dryer
mario March igiano the dryer works well but we rarely use it.
what's the price for each of them..are they from Amazon?
I found these on Craigslist for $50 for both. You can get them new from JCPenney, Walmart, Ebay, etc. I just happened to stumble onto an unbelievable deal.
If watts equals amps multiplied by voltage... then a 6 amp appliance run on 120 volt AC... is 720 watts... not 600.
I'm sure you just ended his world by finding that little mistake.
I'm sorry... but are you under the impression that the motive for my correction was for the purpose of "ending his world"?
You have a warped sense of perception if you assume that is the only reason someone offers a correction.
And a 20% difference isn't a little mistake.
Congratulations on being a pain in the A**.
I need help with the adapter to connect to my sink idk which one to use..please help me anyone?
You can go to Home Depot or Lowes, and they sell a pack of adapters in a package that will fit virtually any faucet.
Thank you very much for your reply :) I will do that.👍
You're quite welcome. Glad to help!
Yes he's right. I just took my hose to Lowe's and they were able to get me the right parts. I also had to get an adapter for the faucet for it to fit right. I want to get a snap-on type.
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id rather use the sun to dry my clothes instead of 1000 watts,
That's definitely my preference. But I threw that in since I had the dryer unit already.
Good for you does not work in New England.
What is the price of this machine??In Pakistani Rupees
I paid 5268.75 Pakistani Rupee for my machine. But I do not know where in Pakistan this machine can be purchased new or used.
the Haier HLP21N Pulsator 1-Cubic-Foot Portable Washer at Amazon is approximately $255 which from what i found on the internet money exchange calculator works out to be 26,855.33 rupees
I like the price I paid better! LOL
Info for all... I noticed how much detergent you put in that little machine and here is some info. the detergent companies are in the business of selling product,,,,, the quantity of detergent listed on the container is the maximum amount that can be used before the product causes issues NOT the minimum amount that can be used to get a good clean ! as I said they want you to use lots of product so you buy more buy more buy more.... I have found using less than a quarter of recommended listed amount works just fine. Also fabric softeners are a crock they DON'T WORK! check out the research online it's a giant misconception a con and just shows how gullible humans are.
Vera, THANK YOU for that info! I think you made some very good points and I'm so glad you shared them here.
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Cira Tellez cuantos que? Pesos? 50.
Ok thank you
You are welcome and thank you for stopping by!