In Central Florida and IAN is about to hit us in 45 minutes. This video just got the 16 yr old Powermate 1850 cranked for the first time since 2005 or 2006. Saw the parts cleaning and ran out and got one. Saved the day!!! Thanks Sir!!!
Thanks for the detailed cleaning. I was cleaning my dad’s exact generator. I did the exact cleaning you are describing, except i didn’t know about the nut/bolt gas bowl holes. I went out and pulled the bowl down again, and those wholes were plugged. Cleaned them, and now my dad’s generator is purring like new. Makes sense now about those holes, and how the gas gets into the carb! Thanks again! Terry
Thanks for the video. Helpful! Btw, the hole near the choke plate that you say probably doesn't do anything; it connects to the hole that the needle fills. There is a little o-ring where the point of the needle goes in; I accidently blew this out when I was using air pressure to clean everything. So when I hooked it back up, fuel was pouring out of the hole near the choke plate. I added a new o-ring to where the point of the needle goes in and it fixed it.
I had to laugh - I have that exact generator that I purchased - good lord - mid to late 90s. Had an ice storm (Charlotte, NC) that brought trees down all over the area - I drove to Lowes the next day - this was the last generator they had. 110VAC - 1500W. Would not power my well - so no water for 3 days - but we had lights that would come on when you flip the switches - TV to watch - internet access (modem). Used it that one time and stored it away after draining gas, etc - stored it in a garbage bag to keep it dry. 2 weeks ago I needed portable power out in a field - and I pulled it out - put in gas - started on the 2nd pull...over 20 years later...
Good video. Constructive comments: 1. Lengthen one of the fuel lines to better get to the fuel shut off value. Spray silicone on fuel value to make it work better 2. Replace the 4 rubber feet under the generator. Over time, small amounts of oil leak from the (governor) body of the generator. This starts to dissolve the rubber feet. Turns them into a rubber goo. Suggest using a foot material oil resistant. Amazon has all shapes and sizes you will need. And no, I don't work for Amazon. 3. As a spare kit: new pull rope, plug, leather/butyl gloves, 2-12-gauge extension cords for each plug, hand tools, 12 volts plug cord for charging batteries. 4. Strong back for lifting the generator. When using my Coleman 1850 gen, (and other gens) it makes noise. A cardboard box over the gen does reduce the noise. Best cardboard I have found is what the Paint and Body shops throw away. Must cut to fit. It's free. Makes a pretty good sleeping mat at times.... Peace from Texas
Instructions say to let it run for 5 minutes before giving it a load. Mine runs smooth and it's 30 years old. I always burn up the fuel before storing.
A pack 'o' guitar strings make great cleaining/poking tools for carbs. I also blew compressed air from a compressor thru it all rather than just duster cants. I got a can with an enclosed tray of parts cleaner from the local auto parts store as I don't have a fancy ultrasonic. It starts and runs beautifully now (I have the same generator).
I have the harbor freight ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, which I fill with carb cleaning solution from auto parts store, that comes in gallon cans. works great in US cleaner.
I have one of those generators. I sure don't miss the sound they make hunting all over the place. There is no voltage regulator on them that I know of so when I wanted to run a saw, I would crank the thing up to what sounded like an over rev. The electric saw would start fast and do the job. I think I'll yank it out this spring and go over it. I have a lot of hours on it.
Did you happen to get the B&S engine model number? I have same carb on my Powermate 1850 + and want to make sure I order right part numbers. Thanks & Love your expertise, way you present your videos and the challenges you accept!! Edit: See comments for engine number
Always thought it funny how people will add new oil to a car or power equipment after blowing it up. Off topic but comes to mind every time I see you look at the oil in them.
Nice job. I buy non working generators off of Craig's list for approx $20-40 depending upon type, size etc. Typically, the carburetor is gummed up from non use and ethanol fuel. I clean the carb and flip them for a nice profit. I like the ultrasonic cleaners, they do a nice job. Chinese genset parts cheap. New carbs cost as little as $8 on eBay. AVR's as little as $4. The Chinese gensets are generally cheap to fix. Just bought a B&S 8250 watt generator for $40, cleaned carb and flipped for $350. Fun, money to be made and there are plenty of TH-cam videos to learn how to diagnose no AC output etc.
That is exactly what I do. When I first started doing this I would buy those cheap carbs and generally had a lot of problems with them (hard starts, needle not seating, running too rich etc). One time I purchase a Briggs with a two cylinder setup. The only carb available for it was $250. Had mixed success with carb spray and chem dips. After that I decided to try the ultrasonic and do not regret that decision. 90% come back after a bath with the right degreaser or chemical. OEM carb is usually better and do not have to spend any money. This particular model the carb was no longer available OEM or aftermarket.
What caburetor are you using? I cannot find one that works. I looked it up per the B and S number. No one has a cross reference. I cannot find one on E- bay. Only rebuild parts. This gen I have the butterfly was frozen on the carb so Its junk. I just want to replace the whole carb. It was given to me. Same model. The side panels are missing but The thing works if I shoot fuel into it.
jose olvera I never got the engine model number off this unit so cannot say for sure. If you have a Briggs engine, the model and type are stamped or on a plate located on the engine. It is covered by the generator housing so you will need to take additional stuff apart to read the number. I worked on a snow blower recently that had what looked like the same engine. The carburetor was no longer available. Looking online it looks like the number might be 496863 for the carburetor. Does not look to be available. Rebuild parts are available, just not the entire unit.
@@jcondon1 If you find a Generic carb, let me know. Its $55 for a new one. I refuse to pay that for a cheap ass unit. For $99 I can buy a Harbor Freight engine that would bolt up.
Have not had to do that yet. That said, would suspect you have to remove the top handle and the four screws on the grey end cover on the side where the outlets are. Once removed, you should be able to access the back of the switch to remove the wires and pop the switch out by squeezing the tabs and pushing it out the front from behind.
Awesome Great video thanks. I have the same generator and it works great was thinking about selling it for extra cash.. What's typically a good price to sell?
Thanks for the detailed cleaning. I was cleaning my dad’s exact generator. I did the exact cleaning you are describing, except i didn’t know about the nut/bolt gas bowl holes. I went out and pulled the bowl down again, and those wholes were plugged. Cleaned them, and now my dad’s generator is purring like new. Makes sense now about those holes, and how the gas gets into the carb! Thanks again! Terry
In Central Florida and IAN is about to hit us in 45 minutes. This video just got the 16 yr old Powermate 1850 cranked for the first time since 2005 or 2006. Saw the parts cleaning and ran out and got one. Saved the day!!! Thanks Sir!!!
Had the same problem with my carburetor love your video helped me lots😊
Thanks for the detailed cleaning. I was cleaning my dad’s exact generator. I did the exact cleaning you are describing, except i didn’t know about the nut/bolt gas bowl holes. I went out and pulled the bowl down again, and those wholes were plugged. Cleaned them, and now my dad’s generator is purring like new. Makes sense now about those holes, and how the gas gets into the carb! Thanks again! Terry
Thanks for the video. Helpful! Btw, the hole near the choke plate that you say probably doesn't do anything; it connects to the hole that the needle fills. There is a little o-ring where the point of the needle goes in; I accidently blew this out when I was using air pressure to clean everything. So when I hooked it back up, fuel was pouring out of the hole near the choke plate. I added a new o-ring to where the point of the needle goes in and it fixed it.
Very helpful James!! Thanks for taking the time to do this. I wondered where the main jet was. Will take my carb apart tomorrow and try what you did.
I had to laugh - I have that exact generator that I purchased - good lord - mid to late 90s. Had an ice storm (Charlotte, NC) that brought trees down all over the area - I drove to Lowes the next day - this was the last generator they had. 110VAC - 1500W. Would not power my well - so no water for 3 days - but we had lights that would come on when you flip the switches - TV to watch - internet access (modem). Used it that one time and stored it away after draining gas, etc - stored it in a garbage bag to keep it dry. 2 weeks ago I needed portable power out in a field - and I pulled it out - put in gas - started on the 2nd pull...over 20 years later...
I have a 1500 watt version I bought new many years ago. Kawasaki engine, over 660 hours on it. Good little generator. Starts quick.
Good video. Constructive comments: 1. Lengthen one of the fuel lines to better get to the fuel shut off value. Spray silicone on fuel value to make it work better 2. Replace the 4 rubber feet under the generator. Over time, small amounts of oil leak from the (governor) body of the generator. This starts to dissolve the rubber feet. Turns them into a rubber goo. Suggest using a foot material oil resistant. Amazon has all shapes and sizes you will need. And no, I don't work for Amazon. 3. As a spare kit: new pull rope, plug, leather/butyl gloves, 2-12-gauge extension cords for each plug, hand tools, 12 volts plug cord for charging batteries. 4. Strong back for lifting the generator.
When using my Coleman 1850 gen, (and other gens) it makes noise. A cardboard box over the gen does reduce the noise. Best cardboard I have found is what the Paint and Body shops throw away. Must cut to fit. It's free. Makes a pretty good sleeping mat at times....
Peace from Texas
Instructions say to let it run for 5 minutes before giving it a load. Mine runs smooth and it's 30 years old. I always burn up the fuel before storing.
A pack 'o' guitar strings make great cleaining/poking tools for carbs. I also blew compressed air from a compressor thru it all rather than just duster cants. I got a can with an enclosed tray of parts cleaner from the local auto parts store as I don't have a fancy ultrasonic. It starts and runs beautifully now (I have the same generator).
I have the harbor freight ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, which I fill with carb cleaning solution from auto parts store, that comes in gallon cans. works great in US cleaner.
I just bought the same one for $100 it would only run with the choke on. Tore the carb completely down and cleaned it and it runs absolutely perfect.
nice
I have one of those generators. I sure don't miss the sound they make hunting all over the place. There is no voltage regulator on them that I know of so when I wanted to run a saw, I would crank the thing up to what sounded like an over rev. The electric saw would start fast and do the job. I think I'll yank it out this spring and go over it. I have a lot of hours on it.
Did you happen to get the B&S engine model number? I have same carb on my Powermate 1850 + and want to make sure I order right part numbers. Thanks & Love your expertise, way you present your videos and the challenges you accept!!
Edit: See comments for engine number
Mine is B&S # 091412 Type 0120E1. Had to tear into it! Lol
What size bolts are those mounting the carb? I accidentally tossed them with the old carb.
Always thought it funny how people will add new oil to a car or power equipment after blowing it up. Off topic but comes to mind every time I see you look at the oil in them.
Nice job. I buy non working generators off of Craig's list for approx $20-40 depending upon type, size etc. Typically, the carburetor is gummed up from non use and ethanol fuel. I clean the carb and flip them for a nice profit. I like the ultrasonic cleaners, they do a nice job. Chinese genset parts cheap. New carbs cost as little as $8 on eBay. AVR's as little as $4. The Chinese gensets are generally cheap to fix. Just bought a B&S 8250 watt generator for $40, cleaned carb and flipped for $350. Fun, money to be made and there are plenty of TH-cam videos to learn how to diagnose no AC output etc.
That is exactly what I do. When I first started doing this I would buy those cheap carbs and generally had a lot of problems with them (hard starts, needle not seating, running too rich etc). One time I purchase a Briggs with a two cylinder setup. The only carb available for it was $250. Had mixed success with carb spray and chem dips. After that I decided to try the ultrasonic and do not regret that decision. 90% come back after a bath with the right degreaser or chemical. OEM carb is usually better and do not have to spend any money. This particular model the carb was no longer available OEM or aftermarket.
What caburetor are you using? I cannot find one that works. I looked it up per the B and S number. No one has a cross reference. I cannot find one on E- bay. Only rebuild parts. This gen I have the butterfly was frozen on the carb so Its junk. I just want to replace the whole carb. It was given to me. Same model. The side panels are missing but The thing works if I shoot fuel into it.
wht is the typical resale price once refurbished - just average. Thanks
I had a minor overflow. I tapped it twice and it seated the float valve and it never happened again.
So you said in the video adjust the hurts so the engine doesn't blow up how do you adjust that
Hertz is adjusted up/down with throttle speed up/down. 60 hertz with no load is best.
Excuse me...the hertz should be 61-62 no load. Should be close to 60 under load.
Aaagh! *Never* vertical video!
Hey I need a carburetor for my 1850 can you tell me what model do I need to get? Thanks
jose olvera I never got the engine model number off this unit so cannot say for sure. If you have a Briggs engine, the model and type are stamped or on a plate located on the engine. It is covered by the generator housing so you will need to take additional stuff apart to read the number. I worked on a snow blower recently that had what looked like the same engine. The carburetor was no longer available. Looking online it looks like the number might be 496863 for the carburetor. Does not look to be available. Rebuild parts are available, just not the entire unit.
@@jcondon1 If you find a Generic carb, let me know. Its $55 for a new one. I refuse to pay that for a cheap ass unit. For $99 I can buy a Harbor Freight engine that would bolt up.
RC Hobbyist Extreme don’t blame you. Will let you know if I ever find one.
@@jcondon1 youre a fool.............i can give you the carb source
So much for the previous owner's claim of "cleaning the fuel system" 😆
How do you replace the run stop switch
Have not had to do that yet. That said, would suspect you have to remove the top handle and the four screws on the grey end cover on the side where the outlets are. Once removed, you should be able to access the back of the switch to remove the wires and pop the switch out by squeezing the tabs and pushing it out the front from behind.
Please Can you tell me the name of de heavy degreaser?
Harbor Freight Super Heavy Duty Degreaser
Awesome
Great video thanks. I have the same generator and it works great was thinking about selling it for extra cash.. What's typically a good price to sell?
Depends on your area. I my area $140 is a good price for a working one. You could get a little more depending on the condition.
@@jcondon1 thanks I was thinking 100 .
@@mattmuch1 What area are you in? Wouldn't mind having a extra Coleman 1850!
My motto
If it farts
It starts
that super closeup camera work still sucks.
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Thanks for the detailed cleaning. I was cleaning my dad’s exact generator. I did the exact cleaning you are describing, except i didn’t know about the nut/bolt gas bowl holes. I went out and pulled the bowl down again, and those wholes were plugged. Cleaned them, and now my dad’s generator is purring like new. Makes sense now about those holes, and how the gas gets into the carb! Thanks again! Terry
Glad to hear. I have been caught by that a few time.